Clandestine:
After some time to reflect, I’m even more bullish that it’s happening.
The highest ranking US intelligence official, just accused Obama and his intelligence heads, of a “treasonous conspiracy”, and referred docs to the DOJ for criminal referral.
We are on a new timeline now. There is no getting this toothpaste back in the tube. There is no turning back. The process is already underway.
I’m not saying people are going to be arrested by tomorrow, or the end of the week, or the month, or the year. I don’t know a realistic timeline, because we are in uncharted waters at this point, but the quest for accountability is officially underway.
It’s already begun. I’d argue the outcome is already determined, and this is just the public unraveling. Trump and his team would not have committed to something of this magnitude without certainty that they would win. That’s not how Trump operates.
Funny thing about the potential timeline.... If Trump getting arrested, charged, and all that nonsense was to set precedent, then perhaps the quickness that all happened with might be an indicator of how the coming situation will play out?
I agree. If Trump hadn't had his home raided, been arrested and mugshotted, the left would be screaming "UnPrEcDeNtEd!" when it happened to Obama. He has no legal defenses to stand on.
Obama could try to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I bet he would open the "back end" of the tube open and jam it in. I hear his "wife" knows how to do that.
Tulsi just made the opening move,
as events unfold some of the crimes that are about to be revealed will meet the threshold for Treason, there will be no doubts.
The DOJ will hand individuals cases to the Military JAGs for Tribunals.
Treason is outside of the DOJ's jurisdiction.
Sidney Powell is a fully qualified JAG who has been involved in certain matters for a number of years, I think that we are about to see her Kraken enter the Chat
I hope she is, but I can't find anything other than rumors about her being connected in any way to JAG.
She is still in trouble though. She beat the Texas bar once (after an appeals court ruled in her favor, but there is another case in Texas against her after her guilty pleas.
Same in GA.
Hopefully they both clear her, but they won't. It will likely take appeals. Honestly they shouldn't call it the BAR anymore. They should just call it the BA - there are no "R's" on their board. All "D's". Her cases are stacked against her.
The BAR. In America it seems whenever a republican (hence the 'R') goes before the bar for "disciplinary actions" they seem to lose their license. The Bar Association here (at least in Texas) seems to be only populated with democrats (hence the 'D'). That's what I mean by just dropping the 'R' and calling it the BA.
Each state has their own Bar regulations. Here is the Texas page:
I don't know why you are arguing, my original point was that Sidney is a Military JAG, which has sweet FA to do with the British Accredited Registry of lawyers.
First - Sidney is not a JAG. Never was. She was a federal prosecutor, and then she went into private practice. My point was that even if she secretly was a JAG (don't think that is even possible) if the Texas (or any other state) Bar Association took her license away she could no longer practice law in those states - whether civilian or military.
I also know that the UK Bar and the American Bar share roots but are not connected. I only mentioned the Texas Bar - which, similar to what you said has sweet FA to do with the British Accredited Registry of lawyers.
Sidney has her own problems to deal with, and I don't believe she will even get involved until her Bar case in Texas, and possibly other states that sued her) are finished. The Texas Bar screwed her once and she beat it on appeal. Now they are trying it again. No way the govt would risk her helping in any of the upcoming cases, because if she ends up disbarred it could give the other side ammo for an appeal.
I can envision militant rioters if Obama is arrested but will fizzle out because it is so obviously not going to change a damn thing except a lot of asshoes in jail.
Try to find my post "USAID, Zambia Style" for a testimony of evidence that USAID has been doing that (and worse) directly in foreign nations. The post didn't get much traffic, possibly because it got bogged down in off-topic ad hominem personal comments about me.
David J Harris Facebook post. Sorry don’t use FB and don’t know how to link to it. Post text as follows from 5 hours ago.
BREAKING: DOJ making preparations to INDICT AND ARREST former President Barack Obama on charges of TREASON, ESPIONAGE AND SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY.
The Secret Service is already making preparations with federal law enforcement to work out the logistics of his historic arrest.
Obama is about to become the first ever US President to be charged with treason and could become the first American convicted of the high charge since the end of World War II. If convicted, he faces the rest of his life in federal prison. This comes from a reliable DOJ source and is going to be ABSOLUTELY WILD.
Comments?
Indeed…amazing how we all ‘Mandela affected’ that into consciousness. “Verify action and confirm future direction” sounds pretty good right about now.
First indictment [unseal] will trigger mass pop awakening.
First arrest will verify action and confirm future direction.
They will fight but you are ready.
Marker [9].
Q
Damn. My bad. Thanks for clarifying! I guess “first indictment will trigger mass awakening” could still apply to Obama being indicted, but that obviously could apply to Trump’s indictment as well.
Either way, I have my doubts that Obama or any of their ilk will ever face true justice for their treason.
Taoism. Nah I’ll pass, only God decides who wins or loses when it comes to war. The Bible shows this clearly. It’s His Will not anyone else’s. And this war we are currently in will be decided by the most high. His will. Have faith in Him. Pray.
So he’s making “feel good” messages for the military, uh? It’s just talk. It’s like he’s never gotten into a fight or anything. Every fight I’ve entered wasn’t won till it was over. And sometimes it wasn’t me. This guy says the battle was already won before we even began. We both want to win. War is on par with a fist fight. Of course there are many different kinds of wars. And as mentioned, only God is in control. He decides who wins or loses. Even in a fist fight.
Bro it is not that deep. The quote by OP is meant to convey that preparation and due diligence are key to delivering victories on any kind of battlefield. Don’t rush in. Plan and strategize, check and double check.
You’re reading way too far into the quote and post lol.
No. God is and will always be in control. You may think “you’re “ in control, that’s typical of man. You can’t even guarantee you’ll be breathing a few seconds from now. It’s His Will.
So you believe God created all of us to be robots with no free will? Every move and decision we make is pre ordained by God? I’m a Christian and I believe in God’s Will, but we are not robots and although he could literally control everything, he does not and chooses not to.
You have free will. But God knows all outcomes. He knew you before you were even born. He knows you more than “you” know yourself. That is the control. He “allows” you to have the responsibility of choice, but doesn’t have to. He’s all powerful and “can” control the outcome if He chooses to. There is never a time God doesn’t know what’s happening. People that place limits on God is what amazes me.
People that place limits on God is what amazes me.
Indeed. I think you've hit on an important point. "He’s all powerful and “can” control the outcome if He chooses to."
Right. And the way I see it, God's chooses, even though it is more painful and causes much heartache to him, to NOT interfere with the outcome, allowing us to make mistakes, so that ultimately, we can also make, well, non-mistakes. That is, so that ultimately, we can make the right choice, and bring God's desired outcome.
God is motivated to do this from love. Love for us, love for his vision of who we can be. It's completely unselfish. This sacrificial heart is what manifests directly in the life of Jesus Christ.
You folks discussing this, for good reason, are getting snagged on the biggest 'issue' that theology has not been able to solve so far. Nonetheless, as Paul said "Now we see in a mirror dimly"
How do we resolve the following elements? 1) God is absolute, and God's will is absolute and 2) God created human being with free will.
Some offer a contradictory belief: Sure, you have free will, but God knows all outcomes. Which actually means, you don't have free will. because it means the outcome is predetermined.
Others offer different belief: God is neutral.
Locked, I believe you are close to the core matter when you write: "although he could literally control everything, he does not and chooses not to"
The solution to the conundrum lies in understanding the Purpose for which God created. The Why? And the How is that to be achieved. Everything stems from there. And to understand that, we need to understand the fundamental dynamics of the universe, which themselves are rooted in God's own nature. As an artist, the Creator manifested his own nature in the creation. Paul alludes to this here: "For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen in the things that have been made.
Sorry, Not trying to stretch this out of overly complicate it. But these points are critical, imo.
God's original core nature is love. How does love manifest? Relationship. Love is only experienced when there is a relationship between A) the giver and B) the recipient. When B) receive that love, and then returns it to A), the perfect loop of love is established. And, in the universe, ALL THINGS only exist, act or multiply (develop) when there is a giving and receiving relationship between two aspects or parties. Spirit and flesh = man, man and woman = couple, leftside brain + right side brain = functioning human brain.
For God to experience joy in his own pure nature, he had to create a B), someone or something who could receive his love and return it. This is humanity. His children. And the blue print for this is revealed in the Three Blessings he gave to Adam: be fruitful (which means, grow up and bear fruit. A tree cannot bear fruit unless it matures to completion of its growth into a mature tree) = mature and perfect your heart, your ability to receive love and give love. Multiply. Take that mature love and multiply it through your relationships, aka take a wife, create a family that manifests God's own love and multiplies offspring who, in a family of love, can themselves grow to maturity in the way of love. Have Dominion. When God;s son and daughter unite in their mature love, in which God is the foremost partner, and their unity is bound by their unity with God, then they form a family that becomes God's family, and God dwells there. Then, When such a family multiplies into a clan, a society, a nation, etc, then 'take dominion' over the created world with that God-centered love.
That kind of world is the kind of world in which human beings can grow their spirit, their heart, to be able to perfectly unite with God and with each other and all living things. In love.
But love cannot be forced. It only manifests in freedom. a free choice, to love. And, more importantly, God needs human beings to be like Him. So God as a creator, had to create children who are also creators. Not robots. But creators, like God.
Who or what do we create? Ourselves. we play a direct role in creating ourselves that is, in maturing and growing our ability to give and receive love, by the choices we make along the way. And because God is absolute, to perfectly unite with God, as Christ shows us, requires human beings also to be absolute in our love. But, because we start out with freedom, immature, like a seed, who has the potential to manifest and express God's own divine loving nature, we begin in this created world, which is relative.
So, God's design involves the absolute (God) and the relative (the creation, aka human beings, where we start).
How to put all this together? God creates us to grow according to his command , and by our faith in that command, choosing to have faith, making that effort to unite in faith, we can mature ourselves and become more like the manifestation of God's own nature, and form unity with him.
God is absolute, so his will is absolute, BUT the timing and the way that absolute Will unfolds, this also depends on man. Because our ability to accomplish God's will is relative. And this is why history has taken so long. Scripture says that God "regretted creating man" when he saw the horrible corruption they had chosen. This was not God's will, but the outcome caused when God's partner - human beings - turned away from him and instead of using their freedom to unite with God and manifest his love, they chose to turn away and manifest the will of the fallen angel. That choice is real.
But because God is absolute, his Will that humanity returns to him and eventually unites with him will absolutely manifest. But if the chosen person or people fail to fulfill their responsibility in that process, then God's will is delayed, until someone who does make the right and necessary choices arrives. Adam failed, Jesus restored. John the Baptist was predestined to become the greatest of all the prophets, but he ended out completely doubting even if Jesus is the Messiah.
C) The fulfillment of God's will = A) fulfillment of God's responsibility (roughly 99% of the equation, which God always and absolutely fulfills) + B) the successful correct fulfillment of the human portion of responsibility (which succeeds or fails depending on what the chosen key person or people choose).
If the second part of the equation fails in a given instance, God works to recreate the same circumstances again and have someone new fulfill that originally planned B). Israel failed to receive Jesus, Christianity was raised in Israel's place.
Many instances of this formula in the scripture. Again and again and again, although the situation expands from individual, to family, to tribe, to nation, to worldwide. Adam to Noah, to Abraham, To Moses, to Jesus.
God's will is perfect and absolute, BUT in order that his children can also stand with him as actual children, with love and creativity (not robots, or servants, which the angels essentially are), God chose NOT ton control his creation, but instead invested in us his faith, his belief in us, and gave us the power of creation, which is the power of choice.
This was the ONLY way that a universe in which the central role could be played by human beings as God's own children manifesting God's own creativity and love, could be designed.
It is the life destiny of each human being to bring the relative realm (the created realm) to the place where it meets the absolute realm of God's love. Jesus Christ was the first (the first of many future fruits) to accomplish this very purpose.
Personally, I believe that God wants us to engraft ourselves into Jesus, to become more and more Jesus-like. And, when the second coming takes place and our bodies are also redeemed back to God, that is, our flesh will come under God's jurisdiction so that God can fully dwell in us and chase out Satan (which he cannot do yet, as our bodies are still under the jurisdiction of sin, as Paul said, even we as believers, our spirits are saved but our flesh needs to constantly ward off attacks from evil).
Imagine a whole race of people who had the same ability to love as Jesus. This is God's purpose and ideal, in my opinion.
Either way, God's will is accomplished through the combination of God's responsibility (which is always accomplished) and human responsibility (which, unfortunately, depends on us). The Human responsibility is to have faith and then act on that faith. Live in accordance with that faith.
God chose it this way so that we could partly create ourselves, and truly reflect his own divine nature, through love.
PS. I know this framework cuts along a lot of people's theological conceptions, but I see no other way to explain and actually reconcile the fact that God and God's will are absolute but that God's children also have free will. Any other explanation I have ever encountered seems to fall short to me, and relies heavily on ignoring one aspect or another.
The key then, is understanding relationship. What is the actual relationship between God's will, God's work (responsibility) and human responsibility? Can they fit together, and if so how? (Obviously they fit together, if both are true. But how?) For me, that's what this framework reconciles.
You are talking about a completely different thing. I’m only talking about this current war going on. The war on consciousness. God does not intervene and it’s why the cabal ruled for thousands of years. But now We The People are all awakening and the tides are turning. We The People together are the God of this earth.
They'll say the country is so divided that we dont want a civil war ,oh wait a minute that was FUCKIN 9 1/2 YEARS AGO . I WANT MY POUND OF FLESH and i'm really hungry,i'll take half a pound of Barry and half pound of Brennon to start and then comes dessert LA' CLIN TON' Brioche.
Jail? I say we go back to punishing Treason the way it was meant to be punished. These people only deserve death. They have been actively working against our country, sewing evil and wickedness at every turn. They deserve to die and burn for eternity.
The Covid people, if I had to choose. They knowingly endangered lives by pushing a jab that they knew nothing about regarding long term effects.
Perhaps worst of all, is they pushed the American people to set a precedent that the government can force you to go inject yourself with poorly studied and unknown chemicals/medicines, under the right conditions. Conditions which the government can fully create on their own whenever they want.
That precedent has now been set, and that is maybe the worst fallout from COVID of them all.
Clandestine: After some time to reflect, I’m even more bullish that it’s happening.
The highest ranking US intelligence official, just accused Obama and his intelligence heads, of a “treasonous conspiracy”, and referred docs to the DOJ for criminal referral.
We are on a new timeline now. There is no getting this toothpaste back in the tube. There is no turning back. The process is already underway.
I’m not saying people are going to be arrested by tomorrow, or the end of the week, or the month, or the year. I don’t know a realistic timeline, because we are in uncharted waters at this point, but the quest for accountability is officially underway.
It’s already begun. I’d argue the outcome is already determined, and this is just the public unraveling. Trump and his team would not have committed to something of this magnitude without certainty that they would win. That’s not how Trump operates.
Every battle is won before it is fought.
Thanks for posting. Good to see someone applying The Art of War to recent happenings.
Funny thing about the potential timeline.... If Trump getting arrested, charged, and all that nonsense was to set precedent, then perhaps the quickness that all happened with might be an indicator of how the coming situation will play out?
I agree. If Trump hadn't had his home raided, been arrested and mugshotted, the left would be screaming "UnPrEcDeNtEd!" when it happened to Obama. He has no legal defenses to stand on.
The speed at which it happened.
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Ha. Holding a wiggly baby, trying to correct every key stroke, leads to jumbled thoughts.
Obama could try to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I bet he would open the "back end" of the tube open and jam it in. I hear his "wife" knows how to do that.
🤮
Tulsi just made the opening move, as events unfold some of the crimes that are about to be revealed will meet the threshold for Treason, there will be no doubts. The DOJ will hand individuals cases to the Military JAGs for Tribunals. Treason is outside of the DOJ's jurisdiction.
Sidney Powell is a fully qualified JAG who has been involved in certain matters for a number of years, I think that we are about to see her Kraken enter the Chat
I hope she is, but I can't find anything other than rumors about her being connected in any way to JAG.
She is still in trouble though. She beat the Texas bar once (after an appeals court ruled in her favor, but there is another case in Texas against her after her guilty pleas.
Same in GA.
Hopefully they both clear her, but they won't. It will likely take appeals. Honestly they shouldn't call it the BAR anymore. They should just call it the BA - there are no "R's" on their board. All "D's". Her cases are stacked against her.
BA is British Accredited, which is a civilian qualification, not relevant to Military matters.
The BAR. In America it seems whenever a republican (hence the 'R') goes before the bar for "disciplinary actions" they seem to lose their license. The Bar Association here (at least in Texas) seems to be only populated with democrats (hence the 'D'). That's what I mean by just dropping the 'R' and calling it the BA.
Each state has their own Bar regulations. Here is the Texas page:
https://www.texasbar.com/
The military has nothing to do with that.
I don't know why you are arguing, my original point was that Sidney is a Military JAG, which has sweet FA to do with the British Accredited Registry of lawyers.
Wasn't meant to be an argument.
First - Sidney is not a JAG. Never was. She was a federal prosecutor, and then she went into private practice. My point was that even if she secretly was a JAG (don't think that is even possible) if the Texas (or any other state) Bar Association took her license away she could no longer practice law in those states - whether civilian or military.
I also know that the UK Bar and the American Bar share roots but are not connected. I only mentioned the Texas Bar - which, similar to what you said has sweet FA to do with the British Accredited Registry of lawyers.
Sidney has her own problems to deal with, and I don't believe she will even get involved until her Bar case in Texas, and possibly other states that sued her) are finished. The Texas Bar screwed her once and she beat it on appeal. Now they are trying it again. No way the govt would risk her helping in any of the upcoming cases, because if she ends up disbarred it could give the other side ammo for an appeal.
I can envision militant rioters if Obama is arrested but will fizzle out because it is so obviously not going to change a damn thing except a lot of asshoes in jail.
USAID has been cut off from the NGOs that were previously been set up to cause riots. So their plans might fail, as they usually do.
Try to find my post "USAID, Zambia Style" for a testimony of evidence that USAID has been doing that (and worse) directly in foreign nations. The post didn't get much traffic, possibly because it got bogged down in off-topic ad hominem personal comments about me.
Yep
More a punishment for the parents than the perpetrator
Correct
The parents raised them so they deserve some of the punishment.
Not always the parents fault. When a person becomes an adult, they make their own decisions.
You'll see lots of people on this site that are based, with 2/3 kids that are based, and they have 1 that is a loon.
Barry would at least be happy with that.
I do believe that the storm has arrived. True panic in DC.
David J Harris Facebook post. Sorry don’t use FB and don’t know how to link to it. Post text as follows from 5 hours ago.
BREAKING: DOJ making preparations to INDICT AND ARREST former President Barack Obama on charges of TREASON, ESPIONAGE AND SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY. The Secret Service is already making preparations with federal law enforcement to work out the logistics of his historic arrest. Obama is about to become the first ever US President to be charged with treason and could become the first American convicted of the high charge since the end of World War II. If convicted, he faces the rest of his life in federal prison. This comes from a reliable DOJ source and is going to be ABSOLUTELY WILD. Comments?
Didn’t someone once say “the first arrest will shock the world”?
Obama being arrested and charged with legit treason would certainly qualify.
Most misquoted post Q ever made.
Indeed…amazing how we all ‘Mandela affected’ that into consciousness. “Verify action and confirm future direction” sounds pretty good right about now.
First indictment [unseal] will trigger mass pop awakening. First arrest will verify action and confirm future direction. They will fight but you are ready. Marker [9]. Q
Can you clarify it? I have tangentially followed Q over the years, but I am by no means an expert.
There were only two Q drops with the words "first arrest" in them and they were duplicated -3716 and 3717.
u/#q3716 u/#q3717
Damn. My bad. Thanks for clarifying! I guess “first indictment will trigger mass awakening” could still apply to Obama being indicted, but that obviously could apply to Trump’s indictment as well.
Either way, I have my doubts that Obama or any of their ilk will ever face true justice for their treason.
I always considered Trump's arrest to be the first to shok the world.
Here’s the link of the post: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DrgGxQi2t/
Taoism. Nah I’ll pass, only God decides who wins or loses when it comes to war. The Bible shows this clearly. It’s His Will not anyone else’s. And this war we are currently in will be decided by the most high. His will. Have faith in Him. Pray.
So he’s making “feel good” messages for the military, uh? It’s just talk. It’s like he’s never gotten into a fight or anything. Every fight I’ve entered wasn’t won till it was over. And sometimes it wasn’t me. This guy says the battle was already won before we even began. We both want to win. War is on par with a fist fight. Of course there are many different kinds of wars. And as mentioned, only God is in control. He decides who wins or loses. Even in a fist fight.
Bro it is not that deep. The quote by OP is meant to convey that preparation and due diligence are key to delivering victories on any kind of battlefield. Don’t rush in. Plan and strategize, check and double check.
You’re reading way too far into the quote and post lol.
Exactly, not that deep at all. Just a man in a dress making stuff up. Agreed.
Wrong. God is neutral. It’s up to US The People to decide who wins the war. War on consciousness.
No. God is and will always be in control. You may think “you’re “ in control, that’s typical of man. You can’t even guarantee you’ll be breathing a few seconds from now. It’s His Will.
So you believe God created all of us to be robots with no free will? Every move and decision we make is pre ordained by God? I’m a Christian and I believe in God’s Will, but we are not robots and although he could literally control everything, he does not and chooses not to.
Edit: wanted to add I agree to your statement.
You have free will. But God knows all outcomes. He knew you before you were even born. He knows you more than “you” know yourself. That is the control. He “allows” you to have the responsibility of choice, but doesn’t have to. He’s all powerful and “can” control the outcome if He chooses to. There is never a time God doesn’t know what’s happening. People that place limits on God is what amazes me.
Indeed. I think you've hit on an important point. "He’s all powerful and “can” control the outcome if He chooses to."
Right. And the way I see it, God's chooses, even though it is more painful and causes much heartache to him, to NOT interfere with the outcome, allowing us to make mistakes, so that ultimately, we can also make, well, non-mistakes. That is, so that ultimately, we can make the right choice, and bring God's desired outcome.
God is motivated to do this from love. Love for us, love for his vision of who we can be. It's completely unselfish. This sacrificial heart is what manifests directly in the life of Jesus Christ.
You folks discussing this, for good reason, are getting snagged on the biggest 'issue' that theology has not been able to solve so far. Nonetheless, as Paul said "Now we see in a mirror dimly"
How do we resolve the following elements? 1) God is absolute, and God's will is absolute and 2) God created human being with free will.
Some offer a contradictory belief: Sure, you have free will, but God knows all outcomes. Which actually means, you don't have free will. because it means the outcome is predetermined. Others offer different belief: God is neutral.
Locked, I believe you are close to the core matter when you write: "although he could literally control everything, he does not and chooses not to"
The solution to the conundrum lies in understanding the Purpose for which God created. The Why? And the How is that to be achieved. Everything stems from there. And to understand that, we need to understand the fundamental dynamics of the universe, which themselves are rooted in God's own nature. As an artist, the Creator manifested his own nature in the creation. Paul alludes to this here: "For ever since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen in the things that have been made.
Sorry, Not trying to stretch this out of overly complicate it. But these points are critical, imo.
God's original core nature is love. How does love manifest? Relationship. Love is only experienced when there is a relationship between A) the giver and B) the recipient. When B) receive that love, and then returns it to A), the perfect loop of love is established. And, in the universe, ALL THINGS only exist, act or multiply (develop) when there is a giving and receiving relationship between two aspects or parties. Spirit and flesh = man, man and woman = couple, leftside brain + right side brain = functioning human brain.
For God to experience joy in his own pure nature, he had to create a B), someone or something who could receive his love and return it. This is humanity. His children. And the blue print for this is revealed in the Three Blessings he gave to Adam: be fruitful (which means, grow up and bear fruit. A tree cannot bear fruit unless it matures to completion of its growth into a mature tree) = mature and perfect your heart, your ability to receive love and give love. Multiply. Take that mature love and multiply it through your relationships, aka take a wife, create a family that manifests God's own love and multiplies offspring who, in a family of love, can themselves grow to maturity in the way of love. Have Dominion. When God;s son and daughter unite in their mature love, in which God is the foremost partner, and their unity is bound by their unity with God, then they form a family that becomes God's family, and God dwells there. Then, When such a family multiplies into a clan, a society, a nation, etc, then 'take dominion' over the created world with that God-centered love.
That kind of world is the kind of world in which human beings can grow their spirit, their heart, to be able to perfectly unite with God and with each other and all living things. In love.
But love cannot be forced. It only manifests in freedom. a free choice, to love. And, more importantly, God needs human beings to be like Him. So God as a creator, had to create children who are also creators. Not robots. But creators, like God.
Who or what do we create? Ourselves. we play a direct role in creating ourselves that is, in maturing and growing our ability to give and receive love, by the choices we make along the way. And because God is absolute, to perfectly unite with God, as Christ shows us, requires human beings also to be absolute in our love. But, because we start out with freedom, immature, like a seed, who has the potential to manifest and express God's own divine loving nature, we begin in this created world, which is relative.
So, God's design involves the absolute (God) and the relative (the creation, aka human beings, where we start).
How to put all this together? God creates us to grow according to his command , and by our faith in that command, choosing to have faith, making that effort to unite in faith, we can mature ourselves and become more like the manifestation of God's own nature, and form unity with him.
God is absolute, so his will is absolute, BUT the timing and the way that absolute Will unfolds, this also depends on man. Because our ability to accomplish God's will is relative. And this is why history has taken so long. Scripture says that God "regretted creating man" when he saw the horrible corruption they had chosen. This was not God's will, but the outcome caused when God's partner - human beings - turned away from him and instead of using their freedom to unite with God and manifest his love, they chose to turn away and manifest the will of the fallen angel. That choice is real.
But because God is absolute, his Will that humanity returns to him and eventually unites with him will absolutely manifest. But if the chosen person or people fail to fulfill their responsibility in that process, then God's will is delayed, until someone who does make the right and necessary choices arrives. Adam failed, Jesus restored. John the Baptist was predestined to become the greatest of all the prophets, but he ended out completely doubting even if Jesus is the Messiah.
C) The fulfillment of God's will = A) fulfillment of God's responsibility (roughly 99% of the equation, which God always and absolutely fulfills) + B) the successful correct fulfillment of the human portion of responsibility (which succeeds or fails depending on what the chosen key person or people choose).
If the second part of the equation fails in a given instance, God works to recreate the same circumstances again and have someone new fulfill that originally planned B). Israel failed to receive Jesus, Christianity was raised in Israel's place.
Many instances of this formula in the scripture. Again and again and again, although the situation expands from individual, to family, to tribe, to nation, to worldwide. Adam to Noah, to Abraham, To Moses, to Jesus.
God's will is perfect and absolute, BUT in order that his children can also stand with him as actual children, with love and creativity (not robots, or servants, which the angels essentially are), God chose NOT ton control his creation, but instead invested in us his faith, his belief in us, and gave us the power of creation, which is the power of choice.
This was the ONLY way that a universe in which the central role could be played by human beings as God's own children manifesting God's own creativity and love, could be designed.
It is the life destiny of each human being to bring the relative realm (the created realm) to the place where it meets the absolute realm of God's love. Jesus Christ was the first (the first of many future fruits) to accomplish this very purpose.
Personally, I believe that God wants us to engraft ourselves into Jesus, to become more and more Jesus-like. And, when the second coming takes place and our bodies are also redeemed back to God, that is, our flesh will come under God's jurisdiction so that God can fully dwell in us and chase out Satan (which he cannot do yet, as our bodies are still under the jurisdiction of sin, as Paul said, even we as believers, our spirits are saved but our flesh needs to constantly ward off attacks from evil).
Imagine a whole race of people who had the same ability to love as Jesus. This is God's purpose and ideal, in my opinion.
Either way, God's will is accomplished through the combination of God's responsibility (which is always accomplished) and human responsibility (which, unfortunately, depends on us). The Human responsibility is to have faith and then act on that faith. Live in accordance with that faith.
God chose it this way so that we could partly create ourselves, and truly reflect his own divine nature, through love.
PS. I know this framework cuts along a lot of people's theological conceptions, but I see no other way to explain and actually reconcile the fact that God and God's will are absolute but that God's children also have free will. Any other explanation I have ever encountered seems to fall short to me, and relies heavily on ignoring one aspect or another.
The key then, is understanding relationship. What is the actual relationship between God's will, God's work (responsibility) and human responsibility? Can they fit together, and if so how? (Obviously they fit together, if both are true. But how?) For me, that's what this framework reconciles.
u/Cyberhawk
That is an amazing write up. I thank you for your time and words friend.
You are talking about a completely different thing. I’m only talking about this current war going on. The war on consciousness. God does not intervene and it’s why the cabal ruled for thousands of years. But now We The People are all awakening and the tides are turning. We The People together are the God of this earth.
You completely overlook the actions of Satan. Like he doesn’t exist. Man rules nothing. Satan rules this planet. John 12:31.
Every human in the world has been affected by the Cabal and their minions. We all deserve justice.
This is the public "habbenings" part of the movie. A major storm is still happening in the background and behind the scenes of the white hat set.
is THIS finally Q 3716/3717 ?
Behind the scenes they won in 2021. Now we’re getting public disclosure of what’s been happening since 2016.
I think Clandestine spelled it wrong.
If you ask me, it's habbening.
But, I quibble.
KNOWINGLY
They'll say the country is so divided that we dont want a civil war ,oh wait a minute that was FUCKIN 9 1/2 YEARS AGO . I WANT MY POUND OF FLESH and i'm really hungry,i'll take half a pound of Barry and half pound of Brennon to start and then comes dessert LA' CLIN TON' Brioche.
After we get all the Russia hoax people in jail, I hope we can move onto the covid people.
Jail? I say we go back to punishing Treason the way it was meant to be punished. These people only deserve death. They have been actively working against our country, sewing evil and wickedness at every turn. They deserve to die and burn for eternity.
The ninth circle of hell, the worst of all is reserved for traitors.
Which people are worse; the russia hoax people or the covid people?
They're the same people.
The Covid people, if I had to choose. They knowingly endangered lives by pushing a jab that they knew nothing about regarding long term effects.
Perhaps worst of all, is they pushed the American people to set a precedent that the government can force you to go inject yourself with poorly studied and unknown chemicals/medicines, under the right conditions. Conditions which the government can fully create on their own whenever they want.
That precedent has now been set, and that is maybe the worst fallout from COVID of them all.
How many people died because of Russia hoax?
I like jail. That way they can be drug out every few years for public shaming at parole hearings.
Mostly the same people.