Most of what we’re told is recyclable isn’t actually recyclable. Fluorescent bulbs included. And of the stuff that’s hauled away to be ‘recycled’ with the daily trash. Most of it still ends up in landfills. Ironically the old products we were told were more environmentally unfriendly and unsustainable. Are overall more easily recyclable and repairable than the modern products supposedly made with that in mind.
Fun fact. Most of the plastic waste that ends up in the world’s oceans comes from a handful of rivers in Asia, and Africa. Yet it’s Western nations that regularly catch the blame for it.
As an aside. Whoever invented LED Headlights needs to get punched in the jaw.
Ordinary householder working to meet the bills, having to understand obtuse regulations just to put in or get rid of a light bulb?? or the creators of the mandates and obtuse regulations??
Was this light bulb change "mandated" by Congress or by unaccountable EPA regulations??
I understand, as a logistician, total life-cycle management from creation to disposal, including $ cost and environmental impact at each stage.
These lefties mandate energy solutions, without considering the mining consequences to third world people and the ultimate disposal. They are well-meaning?? NO these ppl are STUPID and self-serving!
And they can't even help us get rid of LIGHT BULBS that they mandated?!? SHEESH!
But for crying out loud, WHY all the insane regulations which make no sense?? Other than just the insane desire for control over the least aspects of our lives. Like light bulbs!! Which cannot be recycled?!? Where is a good address that we can all mail our forced-purchase light-bulbs that we can't get rid of??
I am willing to take the expense of mailing them, if there is a massive enough movement . . .
So did I. Still have plenty of them. Also I use non-LED full spectrum bulbs. They are more expensive but they do seem to last longer. I like the light they give off and I don't have to worry about microwave exposure that comes with LEDs. The intense blue light from LEDs will wreck your eyes. Besides, I can throw them in the trash.
What do you mean we can't put them in the trash. That is where I put them. What are they going to do, open up the garage bag and sift through to find the bulbs.
I have been buying incandescent at thrift stores. I am not using led anymore. It made a major difference in dizzy spells and heart rhythms and even sleep quality
Those LEDs put out quite a bit of microwave energy. I was shocked when I checked them with a meter. So, if you are electrosensitive, your symptoms make perfect sense.
I still buy them from 1000bulbs.com (Amazon won't ship incandescent to Commiefornia). They don't have many options left but the ones I buy are 118 watt street lamp bulbs which, funny enough, are rated at 8000 hours instead of 1200 hours. So weird they can make them last that much longer in a commercial application.
I run them on a dimmer for fixtures that are rated lower than 120 watt, problem solved.
Still bugs me that gov't mandates stuff that is IMPOSSIBLE!
Sustainable life-cycle management has been known for decades! That was the standard when I was in R&D.
How is child mining not acknowledged as part of life-cycle management of "renewable" energy? How can their lives be compensated?? And then, the disposal of EV batteries, solar panels, wind vanes?? WUT? How is that sustainable environmentalism?? By casual observation, it is not sustainable, not environmental friendly, and positively destructive to those mining for these "renewable" energies?!?
That is not science. That is not renewable logistics. It is pure ideology meant to subject society to, well to what? What do they gain by this absurdity? Help me out here . . .
Remember guys: It is the blue LED based bulbs that are bad for you (light wise). You can get Red LED bulbs that are very good for your health and vision if you use them at night.,,,,Although, full spectrum bulbs are good for you in you live in an area that is overcast most of the time. Like the ones used in "the happy light" and similar brands.
So, I suppose that my meter to check for microwave signals is an illusion. Check it yourself. I was shocked when I saw the levels of microwave signals that a simple table lamp put out. I don't use them anymore. LEDs are part of the LiFi wireless system they want to upgrade to. There are plenty of patents that incorporate LEDs into the internet of things.
Incandescent bulbs are available on line. That's all I ever use and never bought the mercury bulbs. ( parts select.com) 100watt 60watt 40watt 75watt. Also other sites offer them as well
Guess what? Most "recyclable" items still end up in a landfill, and it isn't because we don't put that crap in the recycling bins. It's because most items are too expensive to recycle, or when they're recycled, their shelf life and/or service life is diminished.
My Walmart doesn’t even sell those small fluorescent bulbs anymore, only the long tubes and there are LED alternatives for even those. Everything now is LED.
Where are you getting all those florescent bulbs and why? They suck.
This bulb mandate is an example of government tyranny against ordinary citizens. I just got back from our township recycling day; I had to make an appointment. They take fluoresecent bulbs but NOT the "tiny" ones we were forced to buy instead of incandescent bulbs for all our lamps and overhead lighting!
So back into our garage storage for something UGLY we were forced to buy but cannot easily get rid of! WUT?? They are allowed to do this to us?? WHY?? HOW??
If Q did not say anything about this, he at least implied it . . .
from my limited search (basically no mercury but can/do contain other dangerous substances):
Do LED Bulbs Contain Mercury?
LED lights are gaining popularity because they are more energy-efficient than other lighting options such as fluorescent lights. Also, unlike other ordinary light bulbs that contain dangerous materials, LEDs are safe to use. What about mercury content? Do LED bulbs contain mercury? Let’s find out.
Do LED Bulbs Contain Mercury?
No, LED bulbs do not contain mercury. Unlike other traditional lighting options that include mercury, LED bulbs do not have any traces of mercury. They also have a low impact on the environment compared to incandescent bulbs because they use less energy than CFLs.
Moreover, LED lights reduce power bills and produce superior quality light. However, some LED lights might contain arsenic, lead, and other dangerous substances, which can pose environmental and health concerns.
(Liberal think) Someone invented a light source that uses less energy. If we make "everyone" use them, we'll save the planet!!
They're more expensive. Don't care.
Some use mercury and are toxic. Don't care.
No one will recycle them as it is too expensive. Don't care.
Landfills fill up with toxic waste. Don't care.
People want old style bulbs for certain applications. Don't care.
Ergo, the planet is not saved, in fact it's worse off than before. The country has absorbed a huge unnecessary, perhaps destructive dollar cost. The light from these devices has been blamed for health problems in users. Don't care.
Brought to you by LIBERALS. Same thing every time.
EXACTLY and why do these anti-science and anti-environmental bureaucrats get to implement these insane regulations?!?
Who bribed them is maybe the question, government picking winners and losers instead of the market place? Who benefits? Not the homeowners, not the environment they pretend to care about.
I contend that individual small-holders of farms and homes care FAR MORE about the environment than the bureaucrats do. WE LIVE in the environment! We want the best environment!
Someone is paying to have these absurd regulations operating as though they had the force of enacted law. Who benefits? as clearly we do not and the environment does not.
And, murcury is like "totally fine" in vaccines..
OH MY is that not a crucial observation!!
An abomination!
Most of what we’re told is recyclable isn’t actually recyclable. Fluorescent bulbs included. And of the stuff that’s hauled away to be ‘recycled’ with the daily trash. Most of it still ends up in landfills. Ironically the old products we were told were more environmentally unfriendly and unsustainable. Are overall more easily recyclable and repairable than the modern products supposedly made with that in mind.
Fun fact. Most of the plastic waste that ends up in the world’s oceans comes from a handful of rivers in Asia, and Africa. Yet it’s Western nations that regularly catch the blame for it.
As an aside. Whoever invented LED Headlights needs to get punched in the jaw.
God yes, these blue and purple headlights are absolutely blinding. Sure, you can see 3 miles down the road but I can't see anything in front of me!
I tinted my windshield because of it. I used to flick my brights at the oncoming cars but today's drivers don't know what that means apparently.
That's because most of today's drivers are foreigners.
I hate LED headlights…
OH the ocean pollution does indeed not originate with "first world" societies!
It is used to make us feel guilty to live a civilized standard of living, although we have much cleaner production technology.
Probably a lot in landfills already…
and whose fault would that be??
Ordinary householder working to meet the bills, having to understand obtuse regulations just to put in or get rid of a light bulb?? or the creators of the mandates and obtuse regulations??
Incandescent bulbs still sold. Amazon, etc.
Supposedly Trump legalized them again too.
Wait I wasn’t supposed to throw them in the trash👀? 😂
NO KIDDING!
Was this light bulb change "mandated" by Congress or by unaccountable EPA regulations??
I understand, as a logistician, total life-cycle management from creation to disposal, including $ cost and environmental impact at each stage.
These lefties mandate energy solutions, without considering the mining consequences to third world people and the ultimate disposal. They are well-meaning?? NO these ppl are STUPID and self-serving!
And they can't even help us get rid of LIGHT BULBS that they mandated?!? SHEESH!
But now we have LEDs which ruin our eyesight 🫤
And some say LEDs can spy on us.
yeah LEDs have some benefits but also many side-effects. Any why is it up to the government? Can't they let adult citizens decide on the trade-offs?
The nanny state can't have us making our own decisions! Then we'd be like a free people and they can't have that.
But for crying out loud, WHY all the insane regulations which make no sense?? Other than just the insane desire for control over the least aspects of our lives. Like light bulbs!! Which cannot be recycled?!? Where is a good address that we can all mail our forced-purchase light-bulbs that we can't get rid of??
I am willing to take the expense of mailing them, if there is a massive enough movement . . .
They beurocrats are just making work for themselves,more power and money. And more opportunities for lobbies to pay them.
and we have to suffer for it . . .
There are non-flicker full spectrum LEDs but they’re not cheap.
https://www.waveformlighting.com/
That's interesting. Thanks!
I bought plenty of regular bulbs before they were banned,for these very reasons.
Good move!
So did I. Still have plenty of them. Also I use non-LED full spectrum bulbs. They are more expensive but they do seem to last longer. I like the light they give off and I don't have to worry about microwave exposure that comes with LEDs. The intense blue light from LEDs will wreck your eyes. Besides, I can throw them in the trash.
What do you mean we can't put them in the trash. That is where I put them. What are they going to do, open up the garage bag and sift through to find the bulbs.
Right. They have provided no alternative.
I have been buying incandescent at thrift stores. I am not using led anymore. It made a major difference in dizzy spells and heart rhythms and even sleep quality
Those LEDs put out quite a bit of microwave energy. I was shocked when I checked them with a meter. So, if you are electrosensitive, your symptoms make perfect sense.
OH I believe you!
I still buy them from 1000bulbs.com (Amazon won't ship incandescent to Commiefornia). They don't have many options left but the ones I buy are 118 watt street lamp bulbs which, funny enough, are rated at 8000 hours instead of 1200 hours. So weird they can make them last that much longer in a commercial application.
I run them on a dimmer for fixtures that are rated lower than 120 watt, problem solved.
They could probably make bulbs that last 20 years that wouldn't be significantly more expensive, but that would hurt revenue flow.
Livermore, CA claims to have a bulb from 1901 that is still working.... They can do it.
https://www.livermoreca.gov/things-to-do/centennial-light-bulb
Two things….craftsmanship was better 115 years ago….if it’s never been turned off the filament isn’t fatigued.
Just like they used to make lifetime car batteries.
Thanks!
Still bugs me that gov't mandates stuff that is IMPOSSIBLE!
Sustainable life-cycle management has been known for decades! That was the standard when I was in R&D.
How is child mining not acknowledged as part of life-cycle management of "renewable" energy? How can their lives be compensated?? And then, the disposal of EV batteries, solar panels, wind vanes?? WUT? How is that sustainable environmentalism?? By casual observation, it is not sustainable, not environmental friendly, and positively destructive to those mining for these "renewable" energies?!?
That is not science. That is not renewable logistics. It is pure ideology meant to subject society to, well to what? What do they gain by this absurdity? Help me out here . . .
Remember guys: It is the blue LED based bulbs that are bad for you (light wise). You can get Red LED bulbs that are very good for your health and vision if you use them at night.,,,,Although, full spectrum bulbs are good for you in you live in an area that is overcast most of the time. Like the ones used in "the happy light" and similar brands.
Unfortunately that does not eliminate the microwave exposure from LEDs.
Not true.
So, I suppose that my meter to check for microwave signals is an illusion. Check it yourself. I was shocked when I saw the levels of microwave signals that a simple table lamp put out. I don't use them anymore. LEDs are part of the LiFi wireless system they want to upgrade to. There are plenty of patents that incorporate LEDs into the internet of things.
~full spectrum bulbs are good for you~
Thanks!
I put it all in the trash.
This is not new information. It was widely know when Obama first rolled out this nonsense. Glad you're finally waking up.
OH I HATED it when they mandated light bulbs and reduced flush toilets etc.!
What is the address I should send all this junk to Obama?!?
I just throw those garbage lights in the garbage. They feel at home there.
HA!
Incandescent bulbs are available on line. That's all I ever use and never bought the mercury bulbs. ( parts select.com) 100watt 60watt 40watt 75watt. Also other sites offer them as well
Guess what? Most "recyclable" items still end up in a landfill, and it isn't because we don't put that crap in the recycling bins. It's because most items are too expensive to recycle, or when they're recycled, their shelf life and/or service life is diminished.
They are as concerned with the environment as I thought.
HA!
My Walmart doesn’t even sell those small fluorescent bulbs anymore, only the long tubes and there are LED alternatives for even those. Everything now is LED.
Where are you getting all those florescent bulbs and why? They suck.
We are not getting them. They have been in our garage for years since incandescents were outlawed and we still cannot get rid of them!
This bulb mandate is an example of government tyranny against ordinary citizens. I just got back from our township recycling day; I had to make an appointment. They take fluoresecent bulbs but NOT the "tiny" ones we were forced to buy instead of incandescent bulbs for all our lamps and overhead lighting!
So back into our garage storage for something UGLY we were forced to buy but cannot easily get rid of! WUT?? They are allowed to do this to us?? WHY?? HOW??
If Q did not say anything about this, he at least implied it . . .
from my limited search (basically no mercury but can/do contain other dangerous substances):
Do LED Bulbs Contain Mercury? LED lights are gaining popularity because they are more energy-efficient than other lighting options such as fluorescent lights. Also, unlike other ordinary light bulbs that contain dangerous materials, LEDs are safe to use. What about mercury content? Do LED bulbs contain mercury? Let’s find out.
Do LED Bulbs Contain Mercury? No, LED bulbs do not contain mercury. Unlike other traditional lighting options that include mercury, LED bulbs do not have any traces of mercury. They also have a low impact on the environment compared to incandescent bulbs because they use less energy than CFLs.
Moreover, LED lights reduce power bills and produce superior quality light. However, some LED lights might contain arsenic, lead, and other dangerous substances, which can pose environmental and health concerns.
Thx. I also much prefer the incandescent to LED light.
(Liberal think) Someone invented a light source that uses less energy. If we make "everyone" use them, we'll save the planet!! They're more expensive. Don't care. Some use mercury and are toxic. Don't care. No one will recycle them as it is too expensive. Don't care. Landfills fill up with toxic waste. Don't care. People want old style bulbs for certain applications. Don't care. Ergo, the planet is not saved, in fact it's worse off than before. The country has absorbed a huge unnecessary, perhaps destructive dollar cost. The light from these devices has been blamed for health problems in users. Don't care. Brought to you by LIBERALS. Same thing every time.
EXACTLY and why do these anti-science and anti-environmental bureaucrats get to implement these insane regulations?!?
Who bribed them is maybe the question, government picking winners and losers instead of the market place? Who benefits? Not the homeowners, not the environment they pretend to care about.
I contend that individual small-holders of farms and homes care FAR MORE about the environment than the bureaucrats do. WE LIVE in the environment! We want the best environment!
Someone is paying to have these absurd regulations operating as though they had the force of enacted law. Who benefits? as clearly we do not and the environment does not.