Banning a racial pejorative does not amount to banning “discussing official NYCPD crime statistics or Californian public school literacy rates or official average IQ of countries that happen to be black” since all of those and other such topics can be discussed without the use of that particular racial pejorative or any other pejoratives whatsoever.
Double idiot: OP refers only to banning a single word and nothing else.
Edit: this is the Q forum. Dividing us by race serves no purpose here. Q denounced it as well. That’s what leftists/corporatists/[DS] want in order to cause infighting and keep
us distracted.
Did you mean to say that hate is in short supply? If that is what you mean to be saying then respectfully I would submit that you are wrong and potentially weakening the the movement you are a part of.
If I'm wrong then I am embarrassed and truly sorry for misinterpreting your words.
If you bring race into it your argument is already invalid. With what we know a nation that is corrupt can be any color, a failed nation Nd government can be any color. To say a nation is shitty because the skin color of its people is ignorant period. Especially when we know the deep state chooses who will succeed and who will lose in the world economy. Their failure is caused by the money masters Nd you have been duped into thinking it was result of genetics. It's all programming just as is your point of view.
Replace the first 2 letters of the n word with Jo.
Actually didn't get it when I first saw it on TD. Eventually I bothered to ask myself why people were joking about hating casual runners. Thought it was some innocent meme.
If you censor things people always will look for new ways to be free.Isn't for sure punishing for "n-word" against first amendment to US constitution ?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Are you sure that censoring "holocaust deniers" and "n-word" is still constitutional ?
And if it is "justified censorship" why isn't American government censoring leftism and black suprematism on universities after they openly want returning to racial segregation ? I know why,it was rhetorical question...
u/UhtredRagnarok - ban me if you want - I am not American citizen but anyway I believe more in first amendment and freedom of the speech... Do you believe in American constitution or not ? If you were visited by some FBI faggots ask them that question !
PS: FBI and other leftists,message to you outside your jurisdiction: FUCK YOU !
I could have sworn iPhones auto corrected the word to joggers which increased its usage. Not sure which came first though. However one certainly helped spread the other.
But I also sadly get why he is so insistent on making it.
It all should come down to context and intent, and if you want to be free to discuss race, it sure helps to not be a race-obsessed hothead in the first place.
I have used it on TD simply for being told not to, also laughs, also just cause. Hell, it birthed my new fav: RIGGER. If one were to ask me: n***** = white trash. Same mindset, same behaviors. It's purely social stigma/speech suppression. Hardworking heavy melanin brothers and sisters will agree. Thomas Sowell is a classic example. One of the Smartest mofo's ive ever listened to, i betcha he'd know the difference.
I grew up in a trailer trash drug user single parent home. I am married, got wonderful little Jesus babies, love scripture, and despise using public assistance knowing full well I can work for what's mine and NOT live beyond my means.
This is outrageous, but perhaps this is why mods never wanted us to contribite money. Im pissed, but it aint my forum. grits teeth.
Also, i'm a white/'merican indian mutt with an eskimo wife and kids. RACISM IS ONLY ALIVE IN THE MIND OF BIGOTS(lefties/satanists). We the faithful are the majority. Fuck!
Same here. Only used because it’s fucking absurd to think we can’t utter certain words. They’re fucking WORDS! Sounds you make with your mouth and lips are sooooooo fucking dangerous we can never say them? Yet we’re supposed to be fighting a global cabal of pedophile baby-eating satanists. But please, don’t say certain WORDS.
Context is everything. If your showing yourself to be racist asshole, then yeah ban hammer the idiot. But just arbitrarily banning people for using a WORD is retarded.
TD(now patriots.win) was infiltrated and turned into a cesspool of doom and gloom. GA much more positive and has a real understanding of whats going on. They dont believe in The Plan apparently which is weird cause you'd think they would.
Don't have to be just hopium addicts -- though I guess with the "doomer rule" it must be -- but there is no value in someone who comes here to deliberately troll and shit on morale.
So sad! I have never or will ever use the N word but either I believe in free speech or I don’t. I am not responsible for other people. Btw, my husband just got banned for three days because he disagreed with this moderator. Unbelievable.
You trying to say they all have the same preference or something? And why do they get to be an authority on the English language? If anyone gets authority over English, shouldn’t it be the English natives who were pretty much all white as far as I know?
Look, I’m being facetious. I love all decent people, and I try to love and forgive the bad ones. But this identity obsession and hypersensitivity is part of the problem and needs to stop. I call them Black like I call others White. And I’m not into hyphenated Americans. We are all just Americans. Some good. Some bad.
If people need to be banned for trolling and such, fine. If they’re trolling by using certain volatile speech, fine, ban them for trolling. If they’re on some race stuff and aren’t somehow tying it into Q, ban them for being off-topic. But around here, I didn’t think we were about censorship just because someone doesn’t like what someone else has to say. I say let the baddies speak loudly and clearly! Makes it easy to identify them!
If I may, I think the Mod agrees with you, in spirit, too.
Use of the N word, particularly in a certain way, is one method the enemy uses to False Flag us. I wouldn't call it trolling; it's much more nefarious.
We don't want them to Smollett us successfully, do we? They keep trying to hang themselves and blame us for it.
So why give them the rope?
BTW, I HATE the term African-American. That's a divisive term that Jesse Jackson came up with to "brand" black people for his own purposes.
Came to say almost exactly this. My Jamaican friends hates being called African American.
There is a community of Africans where I live, most are good people. They are African Americans.
The black Americans do not wish to be identified with them, though.
I’m also not a fan of the this word, but where do we stop? Plenty of usage of the word fag around here. It’s tradition from the boards. Lawfags, planefags, etc.
I’m all about fighting racial hatred. But why would I not receive a similar ban for saying cracker? Wop? Honky?
The fine details of free speech are that there are some places where you should and shouldn't use certain words, and there are places where you can and can't use words, as well.
If this forum colluded across the web to hunt down people using the word, that'd be violations of constitutional rights. That's what we're seeing in Big Tech and mainstream Social Media.
Similarly, if this forum were the only way for Americans to communicate, that'd be a big no-no.
The thing is, it isn't. That is to say, you can say what you want on this forum, but they can just as easily and legitimately ban you for it as per the server rules. If they were punishing outside of the server rules, or not enforcing with balance, again, we'd have a problem (that's another thing we see in social media).
I was attempting to be cheeky, sorry that it wasn't clear. I was making light of you directing people looking for "pure free speech" to 8kun as if it was a legitimate endorsement.
I'm still confused. I've only been to 8kun for about ten minutes, once. I've always assumed it was similar to Pol in regards to speech rules. Is this not the case?
You're getting downvoted, but this is 100% correct:
For the downvoting shills:
Criticism =/= using slurs. If you can't make an argument without using words that have borderline the sole meaning of trying to degrade the opposition, you're being illogical. Simple as that.
How are you a moderator? Are you going to ban me too? Just because I think your judgment is unconstitutional? My bad if I was under the impression the constitution mattered in this group of Trump supporters.
Do you not understand what Trump supporters are going through? We are white supremacists if we support Trump. We are censored on fb, Twitter, whatever. If we put Trump flags on our house, people throw eggs or scratch our cars. Now they’re calling us domestic terrorists! I’m not saying I agree with everyone who is a Trump supporter but I differentiate between what I am responsible and have authority over and what I don’t...and vice versa. Your focus on a word is opening the door for the last bastion of free speech to disappear. Please consider this.
The 1st or any amendment probably doesn't matter to the mod because he is a kiwi so he is non American and doesn't get how important it is to have pure free speech.
I wouldn't use that word personally but I defend any American's right to say whatever the fuck they want so I can in turn tell them to fuck off for being a dick.
No. Former capital in Lagos but we are under censorship now.
By the way - I wouldn't use those word personally if it were allowed,but now they have pissed Pole hearing that he is not allowed to do something... I am astonished I have enough patience for mod to not write it already.
Can you wield your guns on someone else's property if they ask you not to?
For that matter, can you remain on someone else's property, even if they don't want you to?
This particular forum is the property of the moderators. They make the rules. They have the right to restrict or remove you from it as they see fit. As it turns out, they are aware we are being brigaded by leftist shills that are attempting to provide ammo and feed the narrative that "Qanon is racism!1!1!!!!"
Since this movement is all about finding out for yourself, the mods have seen fit to restrict the actions of the shills so that any patriots seeking the truth that come here will be able to find it. Simple as that.
Since this movement is all about finding out for yourself, the mods have seen fit to restrict the actions of the shills so that any patriots seeking the truth that come here will be able to find it. Simple as that.
The wording of the post is directed at all users, not just shills. It's accusatory and threatening in tone. It would've been far better for the mods to just warn about the increased presence of shills and to report anyone using the N-word.
To be fair, I don't think it's just shills, unfortunately. I think the shills start stuff and then people here that hold (legitimately) racist ideas come out of the woodwork with them a bit more. It's like if you go around saying "(((them)))" the entire comment chain becomes people coming out of the woodwork to say "you said what other people are afraid to say! It's (((them))) that are the real problem"
It's annoying as hell, because there's such a vast gap between the quality of the Q research and the pre-existing biases that people try to bend the Q research to match.
Luckily, I don't think it's very many people, but still, I think that may have something to do with it.
Just go make your own website. Just go make your own banking system. Just go make your own country.
If mods want to, they can word filter stuff. Turn the dreaded words into something else - like Joggers or Tribe.
But your argument is circular. It's exactly what the left say to the right. It's circular censorious logic. It's exactly WHY we're in the mess we're in.
It's exactly why Time magazine wrote an article outlining why and how they rigged the election. It's the same logic.
You may as well say "well... the banks can block whoever they like from having an account because they're a private company". Then the government makes it so you can ONLY pay by card. No cash.
Or the airlines will only let you fly if you get the vaccine. Private companies only let you work if you get the vaccine. Then the government "phases out" private ownership.
That's your argument. There's common sense censorship where something is inciting violence and that's bad, but people discussing the ills of a certain group of people really isn't doing anything.
And no, the website is the property of the owners. Not the mods.
1.) The website is the property of the owners, you are correct, but by extension, this forum, greatawakening, is effectively licensed by the mods, making the license of the forum their property.
2.) There's a difference between what action is being discussed on this forum versus what is happening in the mainstream/with the left/big tech/etc. I don't think I need to spell that out to you, but in case I do, here we go:
The constitution grantees right to freedom of expression
We also have guarantees of autonomy and property ownership/control.
These rights go as far as they can without infringing upon the rights of another individual; we all should possess as equal rights as possible.
When we sign up with these businesses engaged in censorship, or make a social media account, or anything like that, we are entering into a contract; an agreement. You might say that those contracts and agreements cannot supersede the Constitution; that is correct, and it goes both ways. While you may argue we are guaranteed freedom of expression, it exists only within the limitations of not infringing upon the rights of others. I cannot legally vandalize property of someone to express something to them. In that same sense, we are permitted "onto" their "property" (the platform) under the conditions of the contract. More on this in later points.
Social media companies are enforcing their rules in defiance of their own contracts. They are, in those instances, violating the contract, and to some extent, the law (though in most of those instances, the damages are negligible).
Big businesses are violating other laws about both censorship and monopolistic collusion; they don't just ban people in breach of their own applicable terms, they coordinately ban people for political expression. Perhaps most importantly, these bans and repercussions extend beyond the property of the platform. I could be banned on say, Twitter, for something I say here. I am not on Twitter's property when I say it; I am not infringing upon their rules, they are attempting to punish the execution and usage of my rights, outside of their "jurisdiction". Similarly, the punishments they deal extend beyond their "jurisdiction"; they seek to defame, shame, and mass-censor, through illegal collusion with their partners. Sometimes, they even seek to incite violence against those they ban. This overstepping of boundaries, coupled with their other infractions of law combine to make for an egregious assault on the constitutional rights. The so-called "slippery slope" referred to by many on this thread doesn't exist in that sense because there is already a well defined set of criteria for the violation of constitutional rights versus the simple utilization of property rights.
To muddy this all, we have government intervention. When these platforms or companies become the government appointed (more like anointed) arbiters of their sector/industry, suddenly their rights over their own property change, because they have done dealings with the government that effectively make a percentage or portion of their company public property, by nature of receiving public funding and protection from competition. This is the biggest factor that defeats the use of the "go make your own" argument; in an instance where businesses were not colluding on grand scale, or where the government weren't significantly involved, the "go make your own" argument would be valid. It's validity is evident in the very existence of this (communities.win) website. Reddit did not possess complete monopolistic control, so whilst they were violating contracts and in collusion, creating competition for them was totally possible and doable, and it was done. As an example of difference, you can look at the Parler situation. By my understanding, Amazon terminated, possibly illegally, their contract with Parler, for reasons of illegal collusion, and with illegal government support. In that sense, the monopolistic conglomeration of big businesses is protecting its own, and downright preventing the creation of alternate social media platforms to an illegal level. Collusion from banks (who, by my understanding, have enormous government ties) sets an even greater level of concern, as it is the same problem but scaled up massively.
In a society with a justice system not totally compromised (like ours has been for a decent chunk of American history), it would be up to the judges and juries to determine the fine details as to where between conflicting rights the line should be drawn.
I want to comment on your mentions about practicality, as well:
What is the difference between banning for usage of a slur versus banning for posting pornographic content? How about the difference between banning or censoring for reasons of utility (IE: off topic/unrelated to Q threads) versus slurs?
You say that "There's common sense censorship where something is inciting violence and that's bad"; I would actually advocate (once this is all over) for the legalization of speech that incites violence. Our country was founded upon speech inciting violence. The right to bear arms is pointless without the right to organize the bearing of arms. That said, just because I am for the constitutional and public legalization of that speech, that doesn't mean I'm for the right or ability to use that speech across the board; that is because I seek to obtain balance between rights, not just the over-exaggeration of one until it usurps and supersedes all others.
See this is just circular. You're not neutral. You're pro free speech when it's you doing the speaking and on your terms, but anti free speech when it offends you.
Trump offended the democrats. He's facing impeachment for incitement. He'll contend that was his freedom of speech. They'll contend elsewise. There's always a loophole.
Either you're for it completely or you're against it completely. There can be no "but muh private companies". That's called a loophole and you're slithering through it at an increasing rate.
Also, you can hate the word and you can think people shouldn't say it, you can wish they wouldn't, you can even make it clear that you wish they wouldn't.
But you can also defend the right to say it.
That said I would prefer actually egregious examples be removed because it gets pretty bad sometimes and it just ends up being a distraction
Yeah I don't disagree with that at all. Like if someone is really ott.
It's just there's a lot of facebook boomers coming here and wanting everything clean and cozy. Like no mention of jewish conspiracies.
And that clown yesterday was just talking about casual examples.
You go down the route of censorship and you end up where the country is today.
All these people arguing for it really don't understand that a little bit of this and a little bit of that leads to people wanting more.
If you're going to call an argument circular, you should include proof of your claim.
Of course, to do that, you would have had to read it, which it doesn't appear you did.
I never said the N word offends me. I defend the right for people to use it and not get crucified, and to use it in public. It really doesn't offend me; very little if anything offends me.
Trump will not argue based on freedom of speech, he will argue on their terms, as we have seen; they have used speech just as inciting of violence, and he will demonstrate that easily.
From the sounds of it, you aren't so pro-free speech either? Are you against it too, then, if you're against banning incitement of violence?
I ask again; do you believe people should be posting pornographic content on this forum? How is that any different?
That was very well articulated. What I have never understood is why is the platform held responsible for the speech of the users utilizing the platform? Can’t it just be a mutually beneficial arrangement where the platform requires a waiver and the user has the ability to control their exposure? You could even have separate requirements that confirm adult age. Beyond that, if the platform is not held responsible (and isn’t responsible for the actions of others) the users are only held responsible for threats of violence. This all started with “hate” crime. Please tell me, what crime isn’t hateful?
There already are platforms like that! Most of them happen to be extremely toxic, but I appreciate that they exist.
There's more to the laws about what constitutes a platform versus what constitutes a publisher; these laws have been basically stretched to the breaking point in recent years with blatant infraction from social media companies.
Ultimately, because the website owner is effectively the property owner, they are legally responsible for what happens on it, in some capacity. If some degenerate sicko starts posting child porn, or something like that, they are legally obligated to remove that as soon as they are aware of it, or they will face charges as well. The same can be said about, as you mentioned, incitements of violence, though, to a lesser degree.
But yeah, the biggest reason that the "jurisdictions" of forums and individuals have blended so much is because there is a group actively seeking to destroy opposition opinion. If you were to have a government working to preserve freedoms, or an organization of [the] people with the will and teeth to enforce it (like some groups used to be/claim to be), you'd see things in a lot better state.
Unlike what a lot of people on here are claiming with regards to censorship being the slippery slope that got us here, I think the truth is far more painful:
What brought us here wasn't censorship or some "slippery slope" regarding it. What really got us here was complacency by the populace; pretty much everyone is responsible; the people here included. By allowing them to systemically infiltrate and seize our institutions whilst we made no effort to maintain them, we destroyed our rights. This isn't just about freedom of speech, it's about all of our constitutional rights. They didn't die because most forums censored the N word, they died because the institutions that would have been in place to fight them overstepping their own bounds were allowed to be corrupted.
The entire point of free speech is to protect UNPOPULAR speech.
If we block things that are unpopular, that's not free speech.
Does that mean you SHOULD say everything? Of course not, but that's what free speech is about.
Go to North Korea and announce "ATTENTION EVERYBODY! I THINK FLOWERS ARE PRETTY!", and I doubt anyone will have a problem with you because you haven't said anything unpopular.
They will say this about us regardless of what we do or don't do. Americans don't censor Americans for hurt feelings. Civility needs to be taught but it shouldn't come at the cost of freedom.
They may say it but it isn't about them, it's about the people that do the legwork to find the truth themselves and would come here to see that the claims that we're racist are apparently true.
Not being able to use the N word on this forum doesn't mean you can't use it outside of it.
Before you go on about big tech, know there is a big difference; one will ban you from the platform and be done with it; the other will ban you across all platforms and hunt you down to expose you. Big Tech is a big colluding monopoly acting as an arm of the government. When Big Tech targets individuals, it attempts to censor them outside of just the platform where they made the "transgression". That's the difference.
Those that come will equally see people pushing back on the incivility and know it isn't the norm and that we say those people aren't part of what we believe. If we want a free society we need to teach discernment and to not be triggered by trolls.
Most who are computer literate will know a paid shill when they see one and the others need to learn. After all we expect them to come here and understand how some here use words like plane fag or tard. Are we banning those so that cnn can't say we are hurtful and bigoted?
If you ban the N word you need to ban all other wrong think or racist words to be fair or don't hold people's hand at all as they learn how to ride the tide of dangerous freedom and responsibility.
The difference between "fag" + "tard" and the n word is in the definitions. The N word hasn't exactly been co-opted by us and doesn't exactly possess any realistic definitions, either colloquially or otherwise, that possess any meanings that would be useful in our discussions on this board dedicated to Q research.
"Fag", on the other hand, has a co-opted definition dating farther back than this board; it's usage in sentences makes that blatantly obvious, as the (already colloquial!) offensive definition would not fit in these contexts. Finally, it possesses many official definitions that are not offensive, and it's general understanding varies greatly based on location.
"Retard" or "tard" is similar, though not exactly the same. By my understanding, the word is taboo, but still relatively commonly accepted across the internet. It's literal meaning is "slow", and it has many other colloquial definitions that are far less offensive than the one which is most offensive.
If the mods were to decide to ban them, it would still be within their rights. I would disagree for the arguments above, but accept it.
As far as computer literacy; if we have potential redpill candidates visiting this website, do you really think they're computer literate? Having the latest phone and knowing how to use Snapchat filters doesn't make someone computer literate.
Finally, I think this is less about the word and more about the intended definition or meaning. A word like "cracker" has a racial slur meaning, but other meanings as well. To be consistent, they should ban expressions with "cracker" used in a racial sense, just as they would ban usage of the n-word in any racially charged contexts (which would be borderline all of them).
We already have rules in which off-topic things are removed and potentially bannable. Most people agree and accept those, yet that is also a restriction of free expression.
I wonder how many of the people on this forum want pornography removed or banned if/when it's posted?
This isn't c/conspiracy or c/patriots. African countries have very little to do with Q research. Are you sure you were banned for implied racism? Maybe you were just posting things off topic?
Do you live in those cities, or around where it happened? You weren't paying attention if you think it was blacks doing it. Without giving too much away, I'm just adjacent to one of those hell-holes, and a good 60% or more of the people doing the looting and burning were white. If you assume it's about race at all, you're falling for their narrative. It wasn't. It was about exercising the guerilla power arm of the party. Reject the party narrative? get your house or business burnt down; that sort of thing.
There's no reason to even point out race unless it's relevant. Black neighborhoods, or black families, or whatever works just as well. The usage of the n word is deliberate and I feel it's like when rhetoric was injected to the original reddit TD as a vehicle to get it banned by pointing out the rhetoric.
I haven't really seen that language but I'll report it if I see it.
Thing is, we're part of a network, not a standalone platform. I don't want to lose this place, not to mention that I've never met someone who slings that word who can offer any insight.
You wanna risk losing the place of openikg minds by allowing spiritual shills to shut it down, that's up to you.
Then why even have a deport button? Why not allow shills, doomers, and bad actors to flood the forums? Why not allow Chinese troll farms to outnumber us and quell our conversations?
Forums establish rules for a reason unless you want to end up like 2006 youtube comments.
Communities sprawl up becauase they have a vision and purpose, not to be a wild west of insults, misinformation, and attacks.
Then why even have a deport button? Why not allow shills, doomers, and bad actors to flood the forums? Why not allow Chinese troll farms to outnumber us and quell our conversations?
You're conflating two different issues. If someone posting here is being disrespectful, insulting, or just a very blatant shill, they were already likely to be deported. This special rule for the N-word didn't need to be stipulated and it gives the appearance of favoritism towards a particular demographic by singling it out. If it's such a prevalent issue, why not say that there's zero tolerance for any racial slur? Or better yet, just warn everyone about the uptick in shills using the N-word and to report them whenever you see it? If the mods realize that this is a concerted effort by shills, why direct threatening and accusatory language at all users in general?
Forums establish rules for a reason unless you want to end up like 2006 youtube comments.
The concern is that this sudden and specific rule could very well be the herald of further restrictions. To reiterate my previous post, if the shills know that their actions can influence the mods, where might things go from here? Will we soon not be able to discuss the many crimes of the Rothschilds or George Soros for fear of being banned for supposed antisemitism?
Also, YouTube comments are still trash.
Communities sprawl up because they have a vision and purpose, not to be a wild west of insults, misinformation, and attacks.
You're correct. As it stands, I've seen very little of such negativity here.
You're getting downvoted but you're 100% right. This forum is not our property, and it's not public property. We have the right to say what we want here, but equally, the property owner has the right to remove us.
There's a time and a place for everything. This forum has zero place for highlighting race outside of criticizing the opposition's utilization of race.
This whole post is about using the n word and people fightimg for it to be allowed but just ignored when not even TDW allows that which is a larger community for the MAGA movement.
This is a Q board meant for reaching out to people nit familiar with it.
So you see where the problem with having people run around spouting that epithet is right?
Same as the infiltrators in the original TD that got it banned.
This has always been a Q board not a catch-all place for anything.
Slippery slope. I’m not a fan of the word and I don’t use it, but banning people is censoring free speech. That’s what I appreciate about these boards, it’s the last bastion of free speech. On the other hand, allowing it gives ammo to the other side, ‘those people are bigots’. Tough call, I get both sides of the argument, but I tend to side with free speech
The only reason they even have a platform is because people are leaving other sites doing just that, I find some good info here but not exclusively. Besides, there’s a weird infiltration of info that seems to be muddying the waters...and now they’re trying to pull the same tactics as big tech? Please, tell me how this isn’t a concerted effort to divide us? What blows my mind is how can anyone spend any amount of time seeing evidence of children being horrifically abused and still choose to undermine and oppose? Do they not have or care about kids? Do they not have a heart?
Well it appears this very specific and targeted post is now tearing this forum apart so I guess congrats to the "owners" on that, things often stop surviving long term when you stir the pot this hard and so unapologetically.
Read the room, buddy. Admit you messed up, have a laugh with us about it, and let’s move on.
We’re glad to have you here and appreciate your efforts, but your approach in this case is just a bit against the culture. We are not racists, but we support free speech. You probably have cause to ban the racists for reasons other than their speech. We don’t want racist trolls here, either, but we strongly support free speech. Set your ego aside and think it through. We don’t gain anything infighting here, friend.
Whoa, only one banned word in the entire English language? Cmon, man, you gotta pump up those numbers!! A true tyrant needs living space.
By the way, what is the appropriate way to quote someone else who has used the forbidden word - say, our glorious new POTATUS Bidet - does this forum demand a certain style of asterisks?
And is the naughty word only banned in text form? Can you post video or audio with the word? Referring back to the Congressional testimony of Biden using the word ; Or are those also banned from being seen?
Don't use that word! But you can call white people cracker or even honkey. But oh my goodness don't hurt the feelings of the wrong color...races ass foo
Nigga the fuck is you talking about? Random pushes for censorship are derailing our mission here. Looking for excuses to further clamp down and move us away from the v/pizzagate/v/QRV days is distracting from the dissemination amd discernment of information.
u/catsfive pls come clarify the use of discretion in terms of moderation, you've been given a heavy responsibility and you need to make sure these new mods know the difference between moderation and administration.
Now seriously, please try and get it out of your system and move on. Regardless of the free speech paradigm - it really does lower the IQ bar here exponentially. There are brilliant black people and moronic white people as well as the Converse (capitalisation running shoe joke...), and everything in between.
Focus on content of character & level of intellect rather than the colour of skin and the playing field is instantly leveled. Simple as that.
Theory: rather than going all Gestapo and banning people for this execrable behaviour, wouldn't it be better having it out in the open and criticised by their peers downvoting them and cutting them down in clever replies? Wouldn't this be a better way to show it's unacceptable? Banning people won't make them change their ways, so what's to be gained except YET ANOTHER infringement on free speech that only aids the enemy? And avoid ostracising another N word spewing bigot that moves onto another platform, feeling even more vindicated and determined to keep repeating the same low effort rage bait??? Change them instead with facts, logic and public humiliation.
Just a theory / opinion for what it's worth. Bout tree fiddy.
I’m not one to use derogatory language such as that word, but there are some from my grama’s generation who used it as every day language who weren’t even racist. To just ban someone for this seems like yet another form of censorship, correct me if I’m wrong. I dated a mulatto man years ago who told me he and many others he knew preferred the term black
It makes no sense how people are allowed to use it in commercial music but we can't say it online for discussion? Ban all "artists" from using it then I'll listen, but know that they're too afraid to ever go after a certain demographic in fear of being called racist even though the term is supposed to be hateful to them yet they enjoy using it.
Most of them have taken to simply replacing the n word with the word for leisurely runners as a substitute. Always with the loopholes.
The votes on some of the discussions on certain matters kind of throw me off, but I imagine it can't be that hard to have a bunch of accounts setup solely for vote manipulation - without ever posting with them - just to create a certain perception...
Maybe. I suppose I hope that's what's going on anyway.
Your arguments cumulatively amounted to the most extreme end of a racist rant. You even went so far as to say something along the lines of taking zoo animals out of cages and putting the real animals in, as I recall?
It's amazing your appeal worked, honestly. And now you're here literally campaigning in this thread. You look a lot like the spearhead of a shill campaign to me, but that is at least seemingly an unpopular opinion.
Talking about African countries. White people live there too. "And yet you can't name a single successful African nation or community, anywhere in the world that [...] isn't completely dependent on white dollars."
African American crime culture, "African hunting ranges"? "Blacks" looting and burning every city, despite the well known fact that whites were heavily involved? You have a single minded laser focus for where you place blame, and you disregarded any comment suggesting there might be any nuance to your sweeping claims.
You can fuck right off with your bullshit, shill. The fact that your most egregious posts have been deleted doesn't mean I don't remember, nor does it mean that you have enough restraint not to have ample enough evidence against your immediate arguments still sitting in your posting history.
It seems to be an unpopular opinion in this thread (I think because the people delving into the comments of a thread about banning the use of the N word generally tend to be people in disagreement with the rule) but I appreciate you standing up for some common decency.
It's important to remember this Q post
They want you divided.
They want you labeled by race, religion, class, sex, etc.
Divided you are weak [no collective power].
Divided you attack each other and miss the true target [them].
Dam there down to using that. Everyone knows that word should be a no no. We must be winning or something
TBH, I havent seen it used once on here or TD.
Same, that means we have vigilant eyes reporting.
So we just continue blocking them from conversation as they do us and they will hopefully ‘get a clue’
That works as well, juls :)
Banning a racial pejorative does not amount to banning “discussing official NYCPD crime statistics or Californian public school literacy rates or official average IQ of countries that happen to be black” since all of those and other such topics can be discussed without the use of that particular racial pejorative or any other pejoratives whatsoever.
Who the fuck down voted this. Cuck.
Why downvote? Idiot.
Double idiot: OP refers only to banning a single word and nothing else.
Edit: this is the Q forum. Dividing us by race serves no purpose here. Q denounced it as well. That’s what leftists/corporatists/[DS] want in order to cause infighting and keep us distracted.
Who got banned? Your just making shit up dude.
Did you mean to say that hate is in short supply? If that is what you mean to be saying then respectfully I would submit that you are wrong and potentially weakening the the movement you are a part of.
If I'm wrong then I am embarrassed and truly sorry for misinterpreting your words.
You just need to go somewhere more suited to your hyperbolic twisted view. I think CNN chat or something
I believe if you need the N word to communicate you already slipped off The slope. Ban away for that shit all day.
Upvoted
the n-word, moron
that is what is banned
not the stuff you mentioned
shill
If you bring race into it your argument is already invalid. With what we know a nation that is corrupt can be any color, a failed nation Nd government can be any color. To say a nation is shitty because the skin color of its people is ignorant period. Especially when we know the deep state chooses who will succeed and who will lose in the world economy. Their failure is caused by the money masters Nd you have been duped into thinking it was result of genetics. It's all programming just as is your point of view.
Me either but even a couple is worth putting notice so we dont lose and good by mistake cut it off now u know
Because everyone just uses the substitute word. I've barely ever seen it, but I've seen the substitute plenty.
Replace the first 2 letters of the n word with Jo.
Actually didn't get it when I first saw it on TD. Eventually I bothered to ask myself why people were joking about hating casual runners. Thought it was some innocent meme.
Why can’t you just say the domain owner was contacted by feds? This dog and pony show is not going to work it will be the end of this forum.
I hope you’ll see this I know you got a big inbox.
Sadly we have racist who call themselves patriots. The lefties need you.
Yeah that's how it started but you realize people started using jogger to refer to any black person after a while..
big brains
Not really, just the "innocent" jogger was always in the wrong place at the wrong time, just criminal blacks.
If you censor things people always will look for new ways to be free. Isn't for sure punishing for "n-word" against first amendment to US constitution ?
Updoot
So what - I’m black, we don’t care
Oh yeah that Jogger Armed Robbery. I remember him.
I could have sworn iPhones auto corrected the word to joggers which increased its usage. Not sure which came first though. However one certainly helped spread the other.
Is that what that shit means? Damn I'm getting old.
Where are we, CNN.
Well, we can't be having wrongthink, can we? I mean that's a slippery slope to thoughtcrime. It's for our own protection.
'Basketball Americans'...
I haven’t heard that term since r/cringeanarchy
I didn’t know we voted on one. I get left out of all the fun.
You're the guy from earlier that made several posts amounting to a total condemnation of black people across the planet, yes?
I'm sure you'll find a way to get around the limitation.
Yeah. ?
Now I do get his point.
But I also sadly get why he is so insistent on making it.
It all should come down to context and intent, and if you want to be free to discuss race, it sure helps to not be a race-obsessed hothead in the first place.
"research" lol.
Can’t talk about loxists either
I have used it on TD simply for being told not to, also laughs, also just cause. Hell, it birthed my new fav: RIGGER. If one were to ask me: n***** = white trash. Same mindset, same behaviors. It's purely social stigma/speech suppression. Hardworking heavy melanin brothers and sisters will agree. Thomas Sowell is a classic example. One of the Smartest mofo's ive ever listened to, i betcha he'd know the difference.
I grew up in a trailer trash drug user single parent home. I am married, got wonderful little Jesus babies, love scripture, and despise using public assistance knowing full well I can work for what's mine and NOT live beyond my means.
This is outrageous, but perhaps this is why mods never wanted us to contribite money. Im pissed, but it aint my forum. grits teeth.
Also, i'm a white/'merican indian mutt with an eskimo wife and kids. RACISM IS ONLY ALIVE IN THE MIND OF BIGOTS(lefties/satanists). We the faithful are the majority. Fuck!
Same here. Only used because it’s fucking absurd to think we can’t utter certain words. They’re fucking WORDS! Sounds you make with your mouth and lips are sooooooo fucking dangerous we can never say them? Yet we’re supposed to be fighting a global cabal of pedophile baby-eating satanists. But please, don’t say certain WORDS.
Context is everything. If your showing yourself to be racist asshole, then yeah ban hammer the idiot. But just arbitrarily banning people for using a WORD is retarded.
Are we posting on TD? I must by on the wrong site.
This is GA.win.
TD(now patriots.win) was infiltrated and turned into a cesspool of doom and gloom. GA much more positive and has a real understanding of whats going on. They dont believe in The Plan apparently which is weird cause you'd think they would.
Right, and they are running scared cause they just can’t handle FREEDOM
Plus our mods are badass they cut off all there other tactics
Have u reached out to them there is a way to communicate ur issue with them u knos
Hm, I get your concerns with regards to current topic but heavily disagree with this.
Trolls should be banned period.
Don't have to be just hopium addicts -- though I guess with the "doomer rule" it must be -- but there is no value in someone who comes here to deliberately troll and shit on morale.
The shill brigade show up to downvote you? What the hell?
Haha and the OP corrected my grammar to lol but thanks for the support my fren
I kinda figured this would but I wasn't gonna let a mod I respect get attacked like that without showing some love.
Not shills pissed off Patriots that understand free speech. Look at the second highest comment ffs
Not sure how I gave that impression but love u GOD WINS
I actually take issue with African American. Like all black people come from Africa? What do we call Jamaicans living here? What's wrong with black?
I think I know why only shills use this.
The Dems are still sour over losing the civil war
Isn’t that censorship? Not to mention that sensitivity only applies to certain people? Your logic does not compute.
So sad! I have never or will ever use the N word but either I believe in free speech or I don’t. I am not responsible for other people. Btw, my husband just got banned for three days because he disagreed with this moderator. Unbelievable.
Ya that domain switch was weird. Followed by sudden expansion and all else. We’re probably in a honey pot right now. Hi FBI,CIA,NSA,ATF... Fuck you.
Edit:
Great post here, also Fuck the FBI.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hRCJ85pI/x/c/4Dx42BbHvcm
Power corrupts.
It probably is censorship. We live in a different world than we used to. Criticism to the chosen race will not be tolerated anywhere now.
N
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(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
That's what the African American community call each other. Seems that's what they prefer.
I hate that this bit of snark is a legitimate point
You trying to say they all have the same preference or something? And why do they get to be an authority on the English language? If anyone gets authority over English, shouldn’t it be the English natives who were pretty much all white as far as I know?
Look, I’m being facetious. I love all decent people, and I try to love and forgive the bad ones. But this identity obsession and hypersensitivity is part of the problem and needs to stop. I call them Black like I call others White. And I’m not into hyphenated Americans. We are all just Americans. Some good. Some bad.
If people need to be banned for trolling and such, fine. If they’re trolling by using certain volatile speech, fine, ban them for trolling. If they’re on some race stuff and aren’t somehow tying it into Q, ban them for being off-topic. But around here, I didn’t think we were about censorship just because someone doesn’t like what someone else has to say. I say let the baddies speak loudly and clearly! Makes it easy to identify them!
Fully agree with you.
If I may, I think the Mod agrees with you, in spirit, too.
Use of the N word, particularly in a certain way, is one method the enemy uses to False Flag us. I wouldn't call it trolling; it's much more nefarious.
We don't want them to Smollett us successfully, do we? They keep trying to hang themselves and blame us for it.
So why give them the rope?
BTW, I HATE the term African-American. That's a divisive term that Jesse Jackson came up with to "brand" black people for his own purposes.
Elon Musk has entered the chat
He's apparently a kiwi. That feminist indoctrination down there must've addled his sense of free speech.
Came to say almost exactly this. My Jamaican friends hates being called African American.
There is a community of Africans where I live, most are good people. They are African Americans.
The black Americans do not wish to be identified with them, though.
I’m also not a fan of the this word, but where do we stop? Plenty of usage of the word fag around here. It’s tradition from the boards. Lawfags, planefags, etc.
I’m all about fighting racial hatred. But why would I not receive a similar ban for saying cracker? Wop? Honky?
I think you would. I'd report it anyway. If you want pure free speech, go to 8kun.
I say if you want free speech then come to America, because I champion our First Amendment rights!
The fine details of free speech are that there are some places where you should and shouldn't use certain words, and there are places where you can and can't use words, as well.
If this forum colluded across the web to hunt down people using the word, that'd be violations of constitutional rights. That's what we're seeing in Big Tech and mainstream Social Media.
Similarly, if this forum were the only way for Americans to communicate, that'd be a big no-no.
The thing is, it isn't. That is to say, you can say what you want on this forum, but they can just as easily and legitimately ban you for it as per the server rules. If they were punishing outside of the server rules, or not enforcing with balance, again, we'd have a problem (that's another thing we see in social media).
Look, if you're trying to endorse 8kun, you don't need to beat around the bush.
No idea what you attempted to say there.
I was attempting to be cheeky, sorry that it wasn't clear. I was making light of you directing people looking for "pure free speech" to 8kun as if it was a legitimate endorsement.
I'm still confused. I've only been to 8kun for about ten minutes, once. I've always assumed it was similar to Pol in regards to speech rules. Is this not the case?
Pretty sure it's as lax as 4chan, if not more so. That's what I was referring to.
Why are you “all about fighting racial hatred”? This is the dumbest fucking thing anyone can be “all about”
The only people who haven’t figured out that it’s okay to be enthusiastic about your own tribe and suspicious of outsiders are stupid so-called whites
Because I’m against hate in general. Holding hate within you destroys you.
Did I say I wasn’t proud of my heritage, my people’s culture and accomplishments? No, because I am VERY proud.
Show a liberal a black Englishman and watch their head explode.
To learn who rules over you simply look to those you cannot criticize.
N
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come now frens let's not eat each other alive here
Mod BTFO
This * ??✡
You're getting downvoted, but this is 100% correct:
For the downvoting shills: Criticism =/= using slurs. If you can't make an argument without using words that have borderline the sole meaning of trying to degrade the opposition, you're being illogical. Simple as that.
(careful)
So I guess Q rules over this site because if you criticise Q it's almost a guaranteed ban (rightfully so)
Thanks, My African American friend
Yeah, shills should spend like a day before making accounts of they wanted to actually be convincing.
Then they wouldn't stick out like the sore losers that they are.
By they way, Mod, how are you? Sincerely asking because I don't think anyone else does
Thanks for making this post, I like coming here to see that there are people outside the US cheering us on.
Congress could learn a lesson in patriotism from you
Aren't you the pedophile I heard about?
Faggot
nice three day ban you got there, fren
You’re no fren. More like frenemy.
meh, cant take it that serious since this user posted AFTER was told they got banned. but hey, you keep being you.
How are you a moderator? Are you going to ban me too? Just because I think your judgment is unconstitutional? My bad if I was under the impression the constitution mattered in this group of Trump supporters.
Do you not understand what Trump supporters are going through? We are white supremacists if we support Trump. We are censored on fb, Twitter, whatever. If we put Trump flags on our house, people throw eggs or scratch our cars. Now they’re calling us domestic terrorists! I’m not saying I agree with everyone who is a Trump supporter but I differentiate between what I am responsible and have authority over and what I don’t...and vice versa. Your focus on a word is opening the door for the last bastion of free speech to disappear. Please consider this.
Well said. ?
You do realise Trump supporters are worldwide right?
Lots of people worldwide hoping the pedo swamp is drained, hung, drawn n quartered.
Please, buddy. Don't let yourself go on a power trip. That will make you no different from Kamala or AOC.
That's not entirely true. I think Kamala's allowed to use the N-word.
Does the constitution say your speech has to be civil? Stop banning people for saying things you dont like
The 1st or any amendment probably doesn't matter to the mod because he is a kiwi so he is non American and doesn't get how important it is to have pure free speech.
I wouldn't use that word personally but I defend any American's right to say whatever the fuck they want so I can in turn tell them to fuck off for being a dick.
^^that! I have a hard time saying the f word and it undermines my emphasis! Lol
It's okay some of us still have fucks to give on your behalf
N
That’s funny shit right there
So you just banned someone for insulting you? Concerning.
The new SPEZ, it’s very concerning indeed
Good job, moderator. You banned my husband for three days just because he disagreed with your social justice rules. Wow.
Seems like a niggardly response to mere disagreement.
Lol
I think you mean an African-Americanly response
He was temporarily banned cause he was a being a dick. Do you actually believe what you say?
Be careful! I think you said a no no word!
Kek! I don’t give a flying fart about Dicktater Uhrag’s feefees.
Dont be a fucking dick
N
Nicaragua?
Nutcracker, e.g. "Son of a Nutcracker!"
Nagger!
No. Former capital in Lagos but we are under censorship now.
By the way - I wouldn't use those word personally if it were allowed,but now they have pissed Pole hearing that he is not allowed to do something... I am astonished I have enough patience for mod to not write it already.
Que "muh free speech" trolls
Cue "muh gun rights" "my free and fair election" trolls too.
Hey why not throw it all out at once? That's working for Biden, he IS president after all.
Can you wield your guns on someone else's property if they ask you not to?
For that matter, can you remain on someone else's property, even if they don't want you to?
This particular forum is the property of the moderators. They make the rules. They have the right to restrict or remove you from it as they see fit. As it turns out, they are aware we are being brigaded by leftist shills that are attempting to provide ammo and feed the narrative that "Qanon is racism!1!1!!!!"
Since this movement is all about finding out for yourself, the mods have seen fit to restrict the actions of the shills so that any patriots seeking the truth that come here will be able to find it. Simple as that.
The wording of the post is directed at all users, not just shills. It's accusatory and threatening in tone. It would've been far better for the mods to just warn about the increased presence of shills and to report anyone using the N-word.
I can agree with that 100%.
To be fair, I don't think it's just shills, unfortunately. I think the shills start stuff and then people here that hold (legitimately) racist ideas come out of the woodwork with them a bit more. It's like if you go around saying "(((them)))" the entire comment chain becomes people coming out of the woodwork to say "you said what other people are afraid to say! It's (((them))) that are the real problem"
It's annoying as hell, because there's such a vast gap between the quality of the Q research and the pre-existing biases that people try to bend the Q research to match.
Luckily, I don't think it's very many people, but still, I think that may have something to do with it.
Muh private companies.
Just go make your own website. Just go make your own banking system. Just go make your own country.
If mods want to, they can word filter stuff. Turn the dreaded words into something else - like Joggers or Tribe.
But your argument is circular. It's exactly what the left say to the right. It's circular censorious logic. It's exactly WHY we're in the mess we're in. It's exactly why Time magazine wrote an article outlining why and how they rigged the election. It's the same logic.
You may as well say "well... the banks can block whoever they like from having an account because they're a private company". Then the government makes it so you can ONLY pay by card. No cash.
Or the airlines will only let you fly if you get the vaccine. Private companies only let you work if you get the vaccine. Then the government "phases out" private ownership.
That's your argument. There's common sense censorship where something is inciting violence and that's bad, but people discussing the ills of a certain group of people really isn't doing anything.
And no, the website is the property of the owners. Not the mods.
Going in backwards order:
1.) The website is the property of the owners, you are correct, but by extension, this forum, greatawakening, is effectively licensed by the mods, making the license of the forum their property.
2.) There's a difference between what action is being discussed on this forum versus what is happening in the mainstream/with the left/big tech/etc. I don't think I need to spell that out to you, but in case I do, here we go:
In a society with a justice system not totally compromised (like ours has been for a decent chunk of American history), it would be up to the judges and juries to determine the fine details as to where between conflicting rights the line should be drawn.
I want to comment on your mentions about practicality, as well: What is the difference between banning for usage of a slur versus banning for posting pornographic content? How about the difference between banning or censoring for reasons of utility (IE: off topic/unrelated to Q threads) versus slurs?
You say that "There's common sense censorship where something is inciting violence and that's bad"; I would actually advocate (once this is all over) for the legalization of speech that incites violence. Our country was founded upon speech inciting violence. The right to bear arms is pointless without the right to organize the bearing of arms. That said, just because I am for the constitutional and public legalization of that speech, that doesn't mean I'm for the right or ability to use that speech across the board; that is because I seek to obtain balance between rights, not just the over-exaggeration of one until it usurps and supersedes all others.
lol
See this is just circular. You're not neutral. You're pro free speech when it's you doing the speaking and on your terms, but anti free speech when it offends you.
Trump offended the democrats. He's facing impeachment for incitement. He'll contend that was his freedom of speech. They'll contend elsewise. There's always a loophole.
Either you're for it completely or you're against it completely. There can be no "but muh private companies". That's called a loophole and you're slithering through it at an increasing rate.
Also, you can hate the word and you can think people shouldn't say it, you can wish they wouldn't, you can even make it clear that you wish they wouldn't.
But you can also defend the right to say it.
That said I would prefer actually egregious examples be removed because it gets pretty bad sometimes and it just ends up being a distraction
Yeah I don't disagree with that at all. Like if someone is really ott.
It's just there's a lot of facebook boomers coming here and wanting everything clean and cozy. Like no mention of jewish conspiracies. And that clown yesterday was just talking about casual examples.
You go down the route of censorship and you end up where the country is today.
All these people arguing for it really don't understand that a little bit of this and a little bit of that leads to people wanting more.
If you're going to call an argument circular, you should include proof of your claim.
Of course, to do that, you would have had to read it, which it doesn't appear you did.
I never said the N word offends me. I defend the right for people to use it and not get crucified, and to use it in public. It really doesn't offend me; very little if anything offends me.
Trump will not argue based on freedom of speech, he will argue on their terms, as we have seen; they have used speech just as inciting of violence, and he will demonstrate that easily.
From the sounds of it, you aren't so pro-free speech either? Are you against it too, then, if you're against banning incitement of violence?
I ask again; do you believe people should be posting pornographic content on this forum? How is that any different?
That was very well articulated. What I have never understood is why is the platform held responsible for the speech of the users utilizing the platform? Can’t it just be a mutually beneficial arrangement where the platform requires a waiver and the user has the ability to control their exposure? You could even have separate requirements that confirm adult age. Beyond that, if the platform is not held responsible (and isn’t responsible for the actions of others) the users are only held responsible for threats of violence. This all started with “hate” crime. Please tell me, what crime isn’t hateful?
Thank you!
There already are platforms like that! Most of them happen to be extremely toxic, but I appreciate that they exist.
There's more to the laws about what constitutes a platform versus what constitutes a publisher; these laws have been basically stretched to the breaking point in recent years with blatant infraction from social media companies.
Ultimately, because the website owner is effectively the property owner, they are legally responsible for what happens on it, in some capacity. If some degenerate sicko starts posting child porn, or something like that, they are legally obligated to remove that as soon as they are aware of it, or they will face charges as well. The same can be said about, as you mentioned, incitements of violence, though, to a lesser degree.
But yeah, the biggest reason that the "jurisdictions" of forums and individuals have blended so much is because there is a group actively seeking to destroy opposition opinion. If you were to have a government working to preserve freedoms, or an organization of [the] people with the will and teeth to enforce it (like some groups used to be/claim to be), you'd see things in a lot better state.
Unlike what a lot of people on here are claiming with regards to censorship being the slippery slope that got us here, I think the truth is far more painful:
What brought us here wasn't censorship or some "slippery slope" regarding it. What really got us here was complacency by the populace; pretty much everyone is responsible; the people here included. By allowing them to systemically infiltrate and seize our institutions whilst we made no effort to maintain them, we destroyed our rights. This isn't just about freedom of speech, it's about all of our constitutional rights. They didn't die because most forums censored the N word, they died because the institutions that would have been in place to fight them overstepping their own bounds were allowed to be corrupted.
The entire point of free speech is to protect UNPOPULAR speech.
If we block things that are unpopular, that's not free speech.
Does that mean you SHOULD say everything? Of course not, but that's what free speech is about.
Go to North Korea and announce "ATTENTION EVERYBODY! I THINK FLOWERS ARE PRETTY!", and I doubt anyone will have a problem with you because you haven't said anything unpopular.
They will say this about us regardless of what we do or don't do. Americans don't censor Americans for hurt feelings. Civility needs to be taught but it shouldn't come at the cost of freedom.
They may say it but it isn't about them, it's about the people that do the legwork to find the truth themselves and would come here to see that the claims that we're racist are apparently true.
Not being able to use the N word on this forum doesn't mean you can't use it outside of it.
Before you go on about big tech, know there is a big difference; one will ban you from the platform and be done with it; the other will ban you across all platforms and hunt you down to expose you. Big Tech is a big colluding monopoly acting as an arm of the government. When Big Tech targets individuals, it attempts to censor them outside of just the platform where they made the "transgression". That's the difference.
Those that come will equally see people pushing back on the incivility and know it isn't the norm and that we say those people aren't part of what we believe. If we want a free society we need to teach discernment and to not be triggered by trolls.
Most who are computer literate will know a paid shill when they see one and the others need to learn. After all we expect them to come here and understand how some here use words like plane fag or tard. Are we banning those so that cnn can't say we are hurtful and bigoted?
If you ban the N word you need to ban all other wrong think or racist words to be fair or don't hold people's hand at all as they learn how to ride the tide of dangerous freedom and responsibility.
The difference between "fag" + "tard" and the n word is in the definitions. The N word hasn't exactly been co-opted by us and doesn't exactly possess any realistic definitions, either colloquially or otherwise, that possess any meanings that would be useful in our discussions on this board dedicated to Q research.
"Fag", on the other hand, has a co-opted definition dating farther back than this board; it's usage in sentences makes that blatantly obvious, as the (already colloquial!) offensive definition would not fit in these contexts. Finally, it possesses many official definitions that are not offensive, and it's general understanding varies greatly based on location.
"Retard" or "tard" is similar, though not exactly the same. By my understanding, the word is taboo, but still relatively commonly accepted across the internet. It's literal meaning is "slow", and it has many other colloquial definitions that are far less offensive than the one which is most offensive.
If the mods were to decide to ban them, it would still be within their rights. I would disagree for the arguments above, but accept it.
As far as computer literacy; if we have potential redpill candidates visiting this website, do you really think they're computer literate? Having the latest phone and knowing how to use Snapchat filters doesn't make someone computer literate.
Finally, I think this is less about the word and more about the intended definition or meaning. A word like "cracker" has a racial slur meaning, but other meanings as well. To be consistent, they should ban expressions with "cracker" used in a racial sense, just as they would ban usage of the n-word in any racially charged contexts (which would be borderline all of them).
We already have rules in which off-topic things are removed and potentially bannable. Most people agree and accept those, yet that is also a restriction of free expression.
I wonder how many of the people on this forum want pornography removed or banned if/when it's posted?
Amen to that!! Why is it so hard for people to understand this
Just use Black imo, maybe trolls tryna give us a bad name, throw shit at the wall till something sticks, so CNN can write another show lmao
This isn't c/conspiracy or c/patriots. African countries have very little to do with Q research. Are you sure you were banned for implied racism? Maybe you were just posting things off topic?
Do you live in those cities, or around where it happened? You weren't paying attention if you think it was blacks doing it. Without giving too much away, I'm just adjacent to one of those hell-holes, and a good 60% or more of the people doing the looting and burning were white. If you assume it's about race at all, you're falling for their narrative. It wasn't. It was about exercising the guerilla power arm of the party. Reject the party narrative? get your house or business burnt down; that sort of thing.
I hear in some cases they try to claim African American even if they are neither in those countries.
That's how fucked the world has gotten.
There's no reason to even point out race unless it's relevant. Black neighborhoods, or black families, or whatever works just as well. The usage of the n word is deliberate and I feel it's like when rhetoric was injected to the original reddit TD as a vehicle to get it banned by pointing out the rhetoric.
I haven't really seen that language but I'll report it if I see it.
Thing is, we're part of a network, not a standalone platform. I don't want to lose this place, not to mention that I've never met someone who slings that word who can offer any insight.
You wanna risk losing the place of openikg minds by allowing spiritual shills to shut it down, that's up to you.
If the shills ultimately determine what can and cannot be said, this won't be a place of opening minds for very long.
Then why even have a deport button? Why not allow shills, doomers, and bad actors to flood the forums? Why not allow Chinese troll farms to outnumber us and quell our conversations?
Forums establish rules for a reason unless you want to end up like 2006 youtube comments.
Communities sprawl up becauase they have a vision and purpose, not to be a wild west of insults, misinformation, and attacks.
You're conflating two different issues. If someone posting here is being disrespectful, insulting, or just a very blatant shill, they were already likely to be deported. This special rule for the N-word didn't need to be stipulated and it gives the appearance of favoritism towards a particular demographic by singling it out. If it's such a prevalent issue, why not say that there's zero tolerance for any racial slur? Or better yet, just warn everyone about the uptick in shills using the N-word and to report them whenever you see it? If the mods realize that this is a concerted effort by shills, why direct threatening and accusatory language at all users in general?
The concern is that this sudden and specific rule could very well be the herald of further restrictions. To reiterate my previous post, if the shills know that their actions can influence the mods, where might things go from here? Will we soon not be able to discuss the many crimes of the Rothschilds or George Soros for fear of being banned for supposed antisemitism?
Also, YouTube comments are still trash.
You're correct. As it stands, I've seen very little of such negativity here.
You're getting downvoted but you're 100% right. This forum is not our property, and it's not public property. We have the right to say what we want here, but equally, the property owner has the right to remove us.
There's a time and a place for everything. This forum has zero place for highlighting race outside of criticizing the opposition's utilization of race.
Yes I’ll risk losing the place what kind of fucking pussy are you?
This whole post is about using the n word and people fightimg for it to be allowed but just ignored when not even TDW allows that which is a larger community for the MAGA movement.
This is a Q board meant for reaching out to people nit familiar with it.
So you see where the problem with having people run around spouting that epithet is right?
Same as the infiltrators in the original TD that got it banned.
This has always been a Q board not a catch-all place for anything.
Lol I wonder if rigger is ok
Slippery slope. I’m not a fan of the word and I don’t use it, but banning people is censoring free speech. That’s what I appreciate about these boards, it’s the last bastion of free speech. On the other hand, allowing it gives ammo to the other side, ‘those people are bigots’. Tough call, I get both sides of the argument, but I tend to side with free speech
We? Who is we? And what gives them the right to unilaterally decide what words are allowed?
I’d say the owners can make whatever rules they want. The fact that society has a chosen class is a different thing altogether.
The only reason they even have a platform is because people are leaving other sites doing just that, I find some good info here but not exclusively. Besides, there’s a weird infiltration of info that seems to be muddying the waters...and now they’re trying to pull the same tactics as big tech? Please, tell me how this isn’t a concerted effort to divide us? What blows my mind is how can anyone spend any amount of time seeing evidence of children being horrifically abused and still choose to undermine and oppose? Do they not have or care about kids? Do they not have a heart?
Well it appears this very specific and targeted post is now tearing this forum apart so I guess congrats to the "owners" on that, things often stop surviving long term when you stir the pot this hard and so unapologetically.
The unelected all-powerful mods
There is an intense amount of faggotry but maybe know your community and be less of a cunt to people talking in good faith?
I get what you're saying; I agree with you.
However, it's black people they are using to incite their race war. And THAT is why some terms have become so emotionally charged.
I don't think it's acceptable to use racist terms that apply to whites, either; and I often call people out on it.
A person can be trash without being "white trash."
And I'm kind of tired of people thinking that Southerners, rednecks, and hillbillies are okay to mock.
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Read the room, buddy. Admit you messed up, have a laugh with us about it, and let’s move on.
We’re glad to have you here and appreciate your efforts, but your approach in this case is just a bit against the culture. We are not racists, but we support free speech. You probably have cause to ban the racists for reasons other than their speech. We don’t want racist trolls here, either, but we strongly support free speech. Set your ego aside and think it through. We don’t gain anything infighting here, friend.
Whoa, only one banned word in the entire English language? Cmon, man, you gotta pump up those numbers!! A true tyrant needs living space.
By the way, what is the appropriate way to quote someone else who has used the forbidden word - say, our glorious new POTATUS Bidet - does this forum demand a certain style of asterisks?
And is the naughty word only banned in text form? Can you post video or audio with the word? Referring back to the Congressional testimony of Biden using the word ; Or are those also banned from being seen?
Don't use that word! But you can call white people cracker or even honkey. But oh my goodness don't hurt the feelings of the wrong color...races ass foo
Nigga the fuck is you talking about? Random pushes for censorship are derailing our mission here. Looking for excuses to further clamp down and move us away from the v/pizzagate/v/QRV days is distracting from the dissemination amd discernment of information.
u/catsfive pls come clarify the use of discretion in terms of moderation, you've been given a heavy responsibility and you need to make sure these new mods know the difference between moderation and administration.
Try again Bolshevik Bobby, all I'm saying is stop trying to create a problem that doesn't exist to stroke your ego. It derails our movement.
I definitely don't like the reactions from him at this point for sure. As I go down this thread they get worse and worse.
u/catsfive
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G ary the snail keeps entering the chat...
https://youtu.be/0TIt_GWidjg
Now seriously, please try and get it out of your system and move on. Regardless of the free speech paradigm - it really does lower the IQ bar here exponentially. There are brilliant black people and moronic white people as well as the Converse (capitalisation running shoe joke...), and everything in between.
Focus on content of character & level of intellect rather than the colour of skin and the playing field is instantly leveled. Simple as that.
Theory: rather than going all Gestapo and banning people for this execrable behaviour, wouldn't it be better having it out in the open and criticised by their peers downvoting them and cutting them down in clever replies? Wouldn't this be a better way to show it's unacceptable? Banning people won't make them change their ways, so what's to be gained except YET ANOTHER infringement on free speech that only aids the enemy? And avoid ostracising another N word spewing bigot that moves onto another platform, feeling even more vindicated and determined to keep repeating the same low effort rage bait??? Change them instead with facts, logic and public humiliation.
Just a theory / opinion for what it's worth. Bout tree fiddy.
So Says an Aussie Digga. Lol.
Most of the time I see it in the context of “CIA glownigger” or just the censored form of “jogger” or “rigger”
nor have i so i am baffled
u/catsfive This guy or myself should be a mod representative of voat. From Fat People Hate to Pizzagate. That's our campaign slogan.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH. AMERICAN
He is KIVI.
Parents didn’t love it enough
Censor what you say or we will censor you...because words are violence. REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Silence is violence.
Existence is violence
Never ever, go full Nancy.
Does that mean avoiding gender terms? Can't use mother, have to use parent. Can't use he. Have to use they or it.
I’m not one to use derogatory language such as that word, but there are some from my grama’s generation who used it as every day language who weren’t even racist. To just ban someone for this seems like yet another form of censorship, correct me if I’m wrong. I dated a mulatto man years ago who told me he and many others he knew preferred the term black
Think of it this way: Loose lips sink ships.
We are in a war.
If people could just mind their manners a little bit, we can get through this.
When even the mod isn't minding their manners...
I mean look at the responses.
That alone is inflaming people. Ugh.
Exactly
political correctness was where cancel culture began.
I really hope this is a joke.
the mod is a DS plant lol
Oh...fuck you btw
Reeeeeeeeeeeee Faggot
REEEEEEcists!
You can only say the words that don’t hurt my feefees!
Sorry but Voat desensitised me to that word long ago.
Daily doses of being called N-faggot will do that to you.
And we know only certain people have the right to feel offended.
Pussies
I've listened to a couple songs today that used that word pretty freely.
It makes no sense how people are allowed to use it in commercial music but we can't say it online for discussion? Ban all "artists" from using it then I'll listen, but know that they're too afraid to ever go after a certain demographic in fear of being called racist even though the term is supposed to be hateful to them yet they enjoy using it.
I hope you immediately filed police reports about them to keep us all safe from wrong think!!!!!!!!
Nobody here is black. We're all anon. When we have profile pictures you'll be fine.
I assume you'd need to verify with the mods before you can get your N-word pass.
United we stand? Not when there’s a double standard.
Exactly!
Censorship here too?
NOT Nice NANCY nincompoop
These people are sick.
Most of them have taken to simply replacing the n word with the word for leisurely runners as a substitute. Always with the loopholes.
The votes on some of the discussions on certain matters kind of throw me off, but I imagine it can't be that hard to have a bunch of accounts setup solely for vote manipulation - without ever posting with them - just to create a certain perception...
Maybe. I suppose I hope that's what's going on anyway.
what is jogging?
Dude give it a rest already.
You complained about a certain mod for 6+ comments.
You probably could have worded it better with out disparaging remarks.
Nominal numbers name many Neverending Nuisances in our government beginning with Nancy
The only shill here is you.
Power go to your head?
Your arguments cumulatively amounted to the most extreme end of a racist rant. You even went so far as to say something along the lines of taking zoo animals out of cages and putting the real animals in, as I recall?
It's amazing your appeal worked, honestly. And now you're here literally campaigning in this thread. You look a lot like the spearhead of a shill campaign to me, but that is at least seemingly an unpopular opinion.
Because your entire series of posts was about black people.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hRCCL5Y9/x/c/4Dx41sm3zWN
Talking about African countries. White people live there too. "And yet you can't name a single successful African nation or community, anywhere in the world that [...] isn't completely dependent on white dollars."
https://greatawakening.win/p/12hRCCL5Y9/x/c/4Dx41oB5orB
African American crime culture, "African hunting ranges"? "Blacks" looting and burning every city, despite the well known fact that whites were heavily involved? You have a single minded laser focus for where you place blame, and you disregarded any comment suggesting there might be any nuance to your sweeping claims.
You can fuck right off with your bullshit, shill. The fact that your most egregious posts have been deleted doesn't mean I don't remember, nor does it mean that you have enough restraint not to have ample enough evidence against your immediate arguments still sitting in your posting history.
It seems to be an unpopular opinion in this thread (I think because the people delving into the comments of a thread about banning the use of the N word generally tend to be people in disagreement with the rule) but I appreciate you standing up for some common decency.
It's important to remember this Q post
Neener neener neener!!!
I’d like to ad the worse N word of all. Please don’t use the word Neighbor. Anything but that please
Thank you.