Frankly I find these type of 'predictions' about the MRNA vaccine to have about as much validity as the Imperial University projection of COVID deaths early in the plandemic. Anyone else find it odd how over the weekend we had three vax centers get, quite publicly, shut down due to adverse reactions? They could have hit the 'mute' button on these sites shutting down if they wanted to. I really believe both sides are getting played pretty heavy here while the war drums beat in Ukraine and the Pacific Islands.
It's pretty much common knowledge that the mRNA vaccine MODIFIES your DNA. Do you think this was without possible consequence?
I was under the impression that the antivaxers, the side I am on, believe that mRNA science, being a brand new thing, that the final results or affects are unknown.
What is unknown, is unknown to both vaxers and antivaxers. Why I'm an antivaxer is because I follow a "why take a change" way of thinking, which seem a common sense approach to me.
According to vaxxers you are taking a chance by not getting it. No amount of logic will win these peóple over because it's not one person. No one can win over a mob but that doesn't mean the mob is right. Keep up the good fight!
I have become silent against the force of the stampede. People I dearly love are rushing to get the vaccine and then proudly bragging about it on social media. No questions asked, no objections allowed. I have come to realize I have as much chance of talking them out of getting vaccinated as talking someone out of their religion. The vaccine is their act of faith in their gods of science/ pharmaceuticals/ government/ media - the whole evil pantheon. When the earth shakes because of stampede, all you can do is get out of the way and watch the herd thunder by. And you definitely don’t want to join it.
They want you to be silent. If you are fighting an information war, remaining silent is giving up. Share information any way you feel comfortable but don't go completely silent. Know which points you CAN bring up even if it's not specifically vaccines.
But what I meant was in response ot the "madmallard" comment, looking forward to some future when the vaccines are "fully approved". I see a lot of people now talking about that idea that this will happen in '22 or thereabouts.
It's still going to be a sh!tshow, a lie, and an obfuscation. A true bamboozling of those that can't pay attention.
This vaccine is, probably, poison. Don't take it. Regardless of whether it is "fully approved" by Santa, Jesus, The Easter Bunny, the Leprechauns, Ashtarte, Enki and Enlil, or Odin.
It's pretty much common knowledge that the mRNA vaccine MODIFIES your DNA.
Except the opposite is "common knowledge" for anyone who has studied and done actual experiments in cell and molecular biology.
Our cells are completely full of mRNA at all times. It is the primary path of information and function change in every cell of every lifeform on Earth. If mRNA that has made it to the cytosol modified DNA in any regular fashion life would cease to exist. In fact, life would have never existed in the first place.
It would be like if every software program on your computer was constantly rewriting the information on your hard drive at random. How long would your computer be able to function? Minutes? Seconds? Its virtually exactly the same thing.
Once again you are talking about naturally occurring mRNA. You have no idea how the synthetic mRNA in the vaccines has been modified to get around the normal cell responses in the body.
Since this is a technology that has never been used on humans before, and has resulted in 100% death of test animals in SARS-CoV-1 vaccine studies, prudence would indicate a wait-and-see approach is the best way to maximize one's chances.
Ordinarily, RNA is a “notoriously fragile” and unstable molecule. According to scientists, “this fragility is true of the mRNA of any living thing, whether it belongs to a plant, bacteria, virus or human.”
But the synthetic mRNA in the COVID vaccines is a different story. In fact, the step that ultimately allowed scientists and vaccine manufacturers to resolve their decades-long mRNA vaccine impasse was when they figured out how to chemically modify mRNA to increase its stability and longevity — in other words, produce RNA “that hangs around in the cell much longer than viral RNA, or even RNA that our cell normally produces for normal protein production.”
It is anyone’s guess what the synthetic mRNA is doing while it is “hanging around,” but Corrigan speculates that its enhanced longevity raises the probability of it “being converted over into DNA.”
That paper is strictly about the wild type virus. It has nothing to do with the mRNA being used in the vaccine. As I said, viruses can have the other machinery to make this happen. I am extremely surprised that this particular coronavirus has such machinery, and I am not certain that it does. I need to look very closely at that preprint article to make sure the science was done correctly and that their conclusions match the science (those things are far from certain, especially from a preprint article). Regardless, even if the virus does get written to DNA more often than the average virus, it is not something you can transfer over to the vaccine in any way.
"Synthetic" RNA doesn't really mean anything special. It was most likely made in a bacteria, such as E. coli or some other similar in vitro method. Molecules made in such procedures are identical to molecules made anywhere else. A molecule is a molecule. In the case of the mRNA in the vaccines they have modified bases that are signals used to reduce the probability that they will be degraded by the machinery that is designed to perform that function within a human cell. This is not anything new, but is instead using known biological tools that normal human mRNA already uses.
Is it possible it has other signals that help it get written to DNA? Sure, but the vaccines don't contain the OTHER mRNA that are necessary to make that process happen outside of a one in a quadrillion or so chance. I mean, maybe they do, but it is not one of the listed ingredients. Frankly, if they are putting in things and not listing them in the ingredients, there are much, MUCH better things they could add if they wanted to intentionally alter the DNA (such as all the CRISPR-cas9 associated tools).
What you postulate at the end actually happened to me once. Around a decade ago I got a computer virus that added exactly 1 byte to every file on the PC. The machine was instantly and completely crippled.
Yes, it is exactly a thing a computer virus that is designed to be completely destructive might do.
Interestingly, a biological virus can also write to DNA, but they have ADDITIONAL machinery that makes that happen; machinery that is not in the vaccines. Even in those cases it is very rare, but it can happen.
If it wasn't rare, even when it is set up to do it, the virus wouldn't have time to replicate, and on the broader scale no life could exist. Life, especially multicellular life, only works if its DNA is very rarely altered in any meaningful way.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Aa9Q8vUXNW2S/
This is an interview with Dr. Tenpenny. She’s been researching vaccines for 20 years and has put in over 40,000 hours of research into scientific literature. She’s one of the leading doctors delving into the studies. She’s not the only doctor making these claims. These mRNA vaccines have never been used on humans before and were only approved bc it was declared an emergency. In the animal trials, ALL of the animals ended up dying after being reintroduced to garden variety coronavirus. This is not a joke, and I wouldn’t be so quick to write it off as their are doctors out there dedicating their life to look into this.
Agree completely. This is what people don't understand. It's not about the vax now, it's about your body's response later to the virus if you are vaxxed. And few have the info that, as you said, ALL the animals tested in previous attempts at Corona virus vaxxes died. This is why they skipped animal trials with covid and went straight to vaxxing humans. People getting vaxxed are the trials.
You can boil it all down to a vaccine is a vaccine,
But aestrazennica uses DNA as the delivery
While pfizer and maderna use mRna
While JandJ uses traditional means (no mrna or dna)
So the pathways each vax uses is very different and not the same. Regardless, HCQ and Ivermectin is the only way to go...
That Might be true .. but it is interesting that ALL the animal died a few months/year after trials for similar ‘vaccines’ for SARS ....
But hey, I’m no doctor or scientist....I will pass on what I read and know..
My sister-in-law is a pharmacist in upstate NY... she knows of 10 dead or serious side effects from the jab and she’s only one pharmacist. She gave it to my parents and my father was hospitalized 3 weeks right after and is still on oxygen. No diagnosis outside the doctors recommending he NOT get the second shot....time will tell
hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) zinc and antibiotic against associated bacterial pneumonia; vitamin D, have heard of others. e.g. some other anti-parasite drugs such as ivermectin seem to help for the same reason apparently that the quinine based drugs do. I don't remember the reason the anti-paraciticals help against the cytokine storm.
Wheat is consumed in large amounts in the U.S. and it lessens the ability to metabolize D3 even from sunlight. If you live above the 38th parallel you already have lower than optimum levels. Trying to get someone to give up wheat (not gluten) however is not easy.
Off topic, but wheat consumption is supposedly why Europeans evolved to have lighter skin pigmentation. The lack of melanin allows the skin to better absorb vitamin D from the sun.
As a preppier, yes. There is some evidence that nicotine can actual stop, slow the cykotine storm roaring through your body. There are a lot of articles out there, but here is a recent one regarding COVID specifically, it explains the theory.https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.01359/full
Saw an epidemiologist and virologist from Idaho I think it was speaking at the request of the Lieutenant Governor. He said it is impossible for your body to have a Cytokine storm if you have adequate levels of Vitamin D. Said Fauci knows it - that's why he takes it. But they won't advertise the more mundane (read cheap) prophylactic measures.
Hey Dolly this is true, however, if you have an mRNA vaccine, this isn’t the case. This is because it is part synthetic and will replicate in your body indefinitely. What they found in the animal studies of mRNA vaccines, is when they were reintroduced to coronavirus after the vaccine, they died bc the vaccine prevents the part of the immune system that is supposed to come in and take all the waste away. Our body normally first sends out T1(not actual name) cells to fight the antigen. These T1 cells are inflammatory and flood the area to fight off the antigen. In a normal functioning body, then T2 cells come in and are anti-inflammatory and clean up the mess and cool things down. In the animal studies, they found that in their organs, there was cytokines storm (mass inflammation) and there were no T2 cells present bc the mRNA vaccine apparently kills those cells. This is my current understanding after watching a bunch of interviews with Dr. Tenpenny and a few others.
Thanks for this. I hope it's not true or that she's just mistaken somehow because sheesh. Since my post/your response though, they have made moves to get rid of the only non-mRNA vaccine out there, which is more than worrisome.
Do you have links to these studies? I used to be the first one telling people to Google it or ddg but the last few months every search engine has been thoroughly scrubbed of truth.
No i've just heard several doctors reference this study and based off the trust I have in them, took what they said at face value. I'm totally inept at doing searches for things like this. I try to google something, the algos have it set up to disprove any type of counter narrative to the mainstream, and then I just kinda give up. I wish I was better about it, but I'll keep an ear out in future interviews to see if they tell where they find these studies/info on them.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ws2oS141QbCu/
This is an interview with Dr. Lee Merrit who also is on top of these studies. She references the animal mRNA trials in her interview.
hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) zinc and antibiotic against associated bacterial pneumonia; vitamin D, have heard of others. e.g. some other anti-parasite drugs such as ivermectin seem to help for the same reason apparently that the quinine based drugs do. I don't remember the reason the anti-paraciticals help against the cytokine storm.
No. I have a friend who did and is fine right now. (She’s an active RN)
I kind of find it disturbing that there seems to be a spirit of hope in this community that the vaccines fail (Trump initiated and promoted these vaccines by the way).
I’m not getting them because they’re experimental and I am young and healthy so it makes no sense to... but I certainly hope they work and don’t cause harm to anyone, libtard or not.
Trump did not initiate the vaccines. Big Pharma DID.
Trump only forced the Cabal's hand of perpetual lockdowns by implementing Op. Warp Speed which is a logistical approach for expediting medicines et al to the public.
The one thing that bothers me about Trump is him seemingly promoting these "vaccines".
I have several family members who I’m very close to, that are all hell bent on getting the vaccine. Most have received their first shot and will be going for shot 2 soon.
I’m not getting the vaccine myself, but I literally pray every night that the effects of this vaccine won’t be harmful, or at least will be fully recoverable, because there are way too many people in my life who I can do nothing to stop from taking the vaccine.
At this point, all these “everyone will die” posts are just preaching to the choir that already is not taking them, and all it’s doing for me is sending me into a panic.
At this point, if any doctor wants to actually help, they should be presenting things I can convince my loved ones to do to help mitigate the effects, because that’s the only argument I have left.
Is this what is meant by-the end is not for everyone?
Is this why President Trump promoted the vaccine and took credit for the rapidity of release and encouraged us to get vaccinated?
If this happens...and we already see side effects and deaths..does the "ends justify the means"?
I will not hide from facts and truth, no matter how horrible, but do we really think Q and Trump led us down a path of destruction? Or could there be others at work here?
We are talking about many thousands/millions dying-some are our friends and relatives. People we love.
So either Trump and Q were put here for hope and true change, or we just lined up for the cattle cars.
We cannot have it both ways. He is a stable genus as we have said many times. He had to know. And I cant believe if Q is so far seeing, this would be the answer.
There can be more then one truth..: this is why the Lord gave us free choice...reasoning... made us inquisitive. I will be saddened and sorrowful if these events come to pass but I will sleep well knowing I warned all I loved and even those I don’t and let them make their own decisions. Q, Trump and others gave the awakening... was up to everyone independently to chose for themselves.... some chose wisely some didn’t. Life is just a collection of the choices we make or don’t.
I think people wonder and research and see this type of news and grow concerned. Others see that this may be disinformation as much as saying vaccines are perfectly safe. I think neither Q or Trump led us down a wrong path-until proven otherwise
Ok - I have no idea where to post this or where to even ask such a question. Suppose one spouse gets the jab and the other one refuses. Can any of that shot be transferred through the exchange of bodily fluids? Does anybody know? What are the physical ramifications? This is beyond horrifying on so many levels.
When were the first shots given? Seems to me they were started in the autumn, so close on to 6 months now. Seems that if she is right, people should have been dying already. Of course, who knows if they are and it isn't being reported, but if it were in the numbers she and others suggested, we should certainly be hearing something by now, one would think.
The subjects would need to get sick again. That's the rub - not the jab (although issues from the jab itself are being underreported), but getting sick again. And when these people get sick again, it will be difficult to pin the death or major issue on the jab because it happened so long ago. This is called plausible deniability.
As Dr Cahill points out, you can tell by autopsy because the pattern of damage is different if the injury is by viral infection versus by pathogenic priming autoimmune response.
I didn’t make it, just shared it ...but one would think you’d at least get the name correct ... but since I’m not the worlds best speller I can’t throw the first stone...
Frankly I find these type of 'predictions' about the MRNA vaccine to have about as much validity as the Imperial University projection of COVID deaths early in the plandemic. Anyone else find it odd how over the weekend we had three vax centers get, quite publicly, shut down due to adverse reactions? They could have hit the 'mute' button on these sites shutting down if they wanted to. I really believe both sides are getting played pretty heavy here while the war drums beat in Ukraine and the Pacific Islands.
The exception here, is that this prediction is based upon what and how the human body replicates; not based on a mathematical model.
If I inject a rat with cancer, it's not a mathematical model that says the cancer will likely spread, and negatively affect the well-being of the rat.
It's pretty much common knowledge that the mRNA vaccine MODIFIES your DNA. Do you think this was without possible consequence?
It's pretty much common knowledge that the mRNA vaccine MODIFIES your DNA. Do you think this was without possible consequence?
I was under the impression that the antivaxers, the side I am on, believe that mRNA science, being a brand new thing, that the final results or affects are unknown.
What is unknown, is unknown to both vaxers and antivaxers. Why I'm an antivaxer is because I follow a "why take a change" way of thinking, which seem a common sense approach to me.
According to vaxxers you are taking a chance by not getting it. No amount of logic will win these peóple over because it's not one person. No one can win over a mob but that doesn't mean the mob is right. Keep up the good fight!
I have become silent against the force of the stampede. People I dearly love are rushing to get the vaccine and then proudly bragging about it on social media. No questions asked, no objections allowed. I have come to realize I have as much chance of talking them out of getting vaccinated as talking someone out of their religion. The vaccine is their act of faith in their gods of science/ pharmaceuticals/ government/ media - the whole evil pantheon. When the earth shakes because of stampede, all you can do is get out of the way and watch the herd thunder by. And you definitely don’t want to join it.
They want you to be silent. If you are fighting an information war, remaining silent is giving up. Share information any way you feel comfortable but don't go completely silent. Know which points you CAN bring up even if it's not specifically vaccines.
Well said
Well, until it's fully approved by the FDA, see ya!
Fully FDA Approved but also producers are still firewalled from any liability.
Yeah, Imma sit this one out, thanks.
Fully approved for "emergency use only", yeah lol
Yes, I enjoy the comedy.
But what I meant was in response ot the "madmallard" comment, looking forward to some future when the vaccines are "fully approved". I see a lot of people now talking about that idea that this will happen in '22 or thereabouts.
It's still going to be a sh!tshow, a lie, and an obfuscation. A true bamboozling of those that can't pay attention.
This vaccine is, probably, poison. Don't take it. Regardless of whether it is "fully approved" by Santa, Jesus, The Easter Bunny, the Leprechauns, Ashtarte, Enki and Enlil, or Odin.
Now that's a cool Pepe! 100% right about the see ya later w this unapproved "jab"..
Except the opposite is "common knowledge" for anyone who has studied and done actual experiments in cell and molecular biology.
Our cells are completely full of mRNA at all times. It is the primary path of information and function change in every cell of every lifeform on Earth. If mRNA that has made it to the cytosol modified DNA in any regular fashion life would cease to exist. In fact, life would have never existed in the first place.
It would be like if every software program on your computer was constantly rewriting the information on your hard drive at random. How long would your computer be able to function? Minutes? Seconds? Its virtually exactly the same thing.
Once again you are talking about naturally occurring mRNA. You have no idea how the synthetic mRNA in the vaccines has been modified to get around the normal cell responses in the body.
Since this is a technology that has never been used on humans before, and has resulted in 100% death of test animals in SARS-CoV-1 vaccine studies, prudence would indicate a wait-and-see approach is the best way to maximize one's chances.
See this article for instance: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/science-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna/
which says:
Ordinarily, RNA is a “notoriously fragile” and unstable molecule. According to scientists, “this fragility is true of the mRNA of any living thing, whether it belongs to a plant, bacteria, virus or human.”
But the synthetic mRNA in the COVID vaccines is a different story. In fact, the step that ultimately allowed scientists and vaccine manufacturers to resolve their decades-long mRNA vaccine impasse was when they figured out how to chemically modify mRNA to increase its stability and longevity — in other words, produce RNA “that hangs around in the cell much longer than viral RNA, or even RNA that our cell normally produces for normal protein production.”
It is anyone’s guess what the synthetic mRNA is doing while it is “hanging around,” but Corrigan speculates that its enhanced longevity raises the probability of it “being converted over into DNA.”
That paper is strictly about the wild type virus. It has nothing to do with the mRNA being used in the vaccine. As I said, viruses can have the other machinery to make this happen. I am extremely surprised that this particular coronavirus has such machinery, and I am not certain that it does. I need to look very closely at that preprint article to make sure the science was done correctly and that their conclusions match the science (those things are far from certain, especially from a preprint article). Regardless, even if the virus does get written to DNA more often than the average virus, it is not something you can transfer over to the vaccine in any way.
"Synthetic" RNA doesn't really mean anything special. It was most likely made in a bacteria, such as E. coli or some other similar in vitro method. Molecules made in such procedures are identical to molecules made anywhere else. A molecule is a molecule. In the case of the mRNA in the vaccines they have modified bases that are signals used to reduce the probability that they will be degraded by the machinery that is designed to perform that function within a human cell. This is not anything new, but is instead using known biological tools that normal human mRNA already uses.
Is it possible it has other signals that help it get written to DNA? Sure, but the vaccines don't contain the OTHER mRNA that are necessary to make that process happen outside of a one in a quadrillion or so chance. I mean, maybe they do, but it is not one of the listed ingredients. Frankly, if they are putting in things and not listing them in the ingredients, there are much, MUCH better things they could add if they wanted to intentionally alter the DNA (such as all the CRISPR-cas9 associated tools).
What you postulate at the end actually happened to me once. Around a decade ago I got a computer virus that added exactly 1 byte to every file on the PC. The machine was instantly and completely crippled.
Yes, it is exactly a thing a computer virus that is designed to be completely destructive might do.
Interestingly, a biological virus can also write to DNA, but they have ADDITIONAL machinery that makes that happen; machinery that is not in the vaccines. Even in those cases it is very rare, but it can happen.
If it wasn't rare, even when it is set up to do it, the virus wouldn't have time to replicate, and on the broader scale no life could exist. Life, especially multicellular life, only works if its DNA is very rarely altered in any meaningful way.
Plenty of known side effects though to justify not chancing it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Aa9Q8vUXNW2S/ This is an interview with Dr. Tenpenny. She’s been researching vaccines for 20 years and has put in over 40,000 hours of research into scientific literature. She’s one of the leading doctors delving into the studies. She’s not the only doctor making these claims. These mRNA vaccines have never been used on humans before and were only approved bc it was declared an emergency. In the animal trials, ALL of the animals ended up dying after being reintroduced to garden variety coronavirus. This is not a joke, and I wouldn’t be so quick to write it off as their are doctors out there dedicating their life to look into this.
Agree completely. This is what people don't understand. It's not about the vax now, it's about your body's response later to the virus if you are vaxxed. And few have the info that, as you said, ALL the animals tested in previous attempts at Corona virus vaxxes died. This is why they skipped animal trials with covid and went straight to vaxxing humans. People getting vaxxed are the trials.
I thought dengvaxia used mRNA technology?
There's a good Schill.
Schill, been around long time. Critical thinking, watch, wait, absorb info instead of wild speculation.
Ok. Long-time Schill. You're glowing.
Wow - checked your post history - no contributions - EVER. Useless commenter with nothing to add.
Look at this great one from the Schill
https://greatawakening.win/p/12i48eLDTY/look-at-this-circle-graph--updat/c/
You can boil it all down to a vaccine is a vaccine, But aestrazennica uses DNA as the delivery While pfizer and maderna use mRna While JandJ uses traditional means (no mrna or dna)
So the pathways each vax uses is very different and not the same. Regardless, HCQ and Ivermectin is the only way to go...
Yes .... Yes .... indeed. And I would frankly add, that I also do not trust any prediction by Pharma.
Their animal subjects all died. And can we see the names listed of those having participated in their trials. Or are they as dead as Biden Voters?
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/professor-dolores-cahill-why-people-will-start-dying-a-few-months-after-the-first-mrna-vaccination/
That Might be true .. but it is interesting that ALL the animal died a few months/year after trials for similar ‘vaccines’ for SARS ....
But hey, I’m no doctor or scientist....I will pass on what I read and know..
My sister-in-law is a pharmacist in upstate NY... she knows of 10 dead or serious side effects from the jab and she’s only one pharmacist. She gave it to my parents and my father was hospitalized 3 weeks right after and is still on oxygen. No diagnosis outside the doctors recommending he NOT get the second shot....time will tell
I don't know about this one, but I can think of a few people thay deserve a Cyanide storm ?.
?
There are treatments against the cykotine storm.
Yes there is, just need to get the treatment started sooner than later.
I'm listening...
hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) zinc and antibiotic against associated bacterial pneumonia; vitamin D, have heard of others. e.g. some other anti-parasite drugs such as ivermectin seem to help for the same reason apparently that the quinine based drugs do. I don't remember the reason the anti-paraciticals help against the cytokine storm.
Wheat is consumed in large amounts in the U.S. and it lessens the ability to metabolize D3 even from sunlight. If you live above the 38th parallel you already have lower than optimum levels. Trying to get someone to give up wheat (not gluten) however is not easy.
If you supplement with D3, be sure to take K2 with it as it enhances the absorption.
Off topic, but wheat consumption is supposedly why Europeans evolved to have lighter skin pigmentation. The lack of melanin allows the skin to better absorb vitamin D from the sun.
Gluten is IN wheat, the cause of allergic reactions.
Explain about nicotine please
As a preppier, yes. There is some evidence that nicotine can actual stop, slow the cykotine storm roaring through your body. There are a lot of articles out there, but here is a recent one regarding COVID specifically, it explains the theory.https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2020.01359/full
Link didn't work for me but I fixed it for those who are interested.
Thanks
Thanks, that gives me some more avenues to research.
Is there any discussion about those that already get a heavy dose of nicotine on a daily basis? .. askin' for a fren.
I heard about that a while back. Well the shut down led me to restart and restop and restart smoking a few times . . .
TY
So HCQ et al not only work for Covid, but also the cytokine storm?
What are they?
Saw an epidemiologist and virologist from Idaho I think it was speaking at the request of the Lieutenant Governor. He said it is impossible for your body to have a Cytokine storm if you have adequate levels of Vitamin D. Said Fauci knows it - that's why he takes it. But they won't advertise the more mundane (read cheap) prophylactic measures.
Hey Dolly this is true, however, if you have an mRNA vaccine, this isn’t the case. This is because it is part synthetic and will replicate in your body indefinitely. What they found in the animal studies of mRNA vaccines, is when they were reintroduced to coronavirus after the vaccine, they died bc the vaccine prevents the part of the immune system that is supposed to come in and take all the waste away. Our body normally first sends out T1(not actual name) cells to fight the antigen. These T1 cells are inflammatory and flood the area to fight off the antigen. In a normal functioning body, then T2 cells come in and are anti-inflammatory and clean up the mess and cool things down. In the animal studies, they found that in their organs, there was cytokines storm (mass inflammation) and there were no T2 cells present bc the mRNA vaccine apparently kills those cells. This is my current understanding after watching a bunch of interviews with Dr. Tenpenny and a few others.
Thanks for this. I hope it's not true or that she's just mistaken somehow because sheesh. Since my post/your response though, they have made moves to get rid of the only non-mRNA vaccine out there, which is more than worrisome.
Do you have links to these studies? I used to be the first one telling people to Google it or ddg but the last few months every search engine has been thoroughly scrubbed of truth.
No i've just heard several doctors reference this study and based off the trust I have in them, took what they said at face value. I'm totally inept at doing searches for things like this. I try to google something, the algos have it set up to disprove any type of counter narrative to the mainstream, and then I just kinda give up. I wish I was better about it, but I'll keep an ear out in future interviews to see if they tell where they find these studies/info on them.
Thanks
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ws2oS141QbCu/ This is an interview with Dr. Lee Merrit who also is on top of these studies. She references the animal mRNA trials in her interview.
Dr Cole :) I saw that.. didn't know it would help post vakz
hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) zinc and antibiotic against associated bacterial pneumonia; vitamin D, have heard of others. e.g. some other anti-parasite drugs such as ivermectin seem to help for the same reason apparently that the quinine based drugs do. I don't remember the reason the anti-paraciticals help against the cytokine storm.
Would Trump recommend the vaccine if this were the case?
Why all this fear porn around the vaccine and the cytokine “storm”?
Something else is going on...back to the Q drops...”you have more than you know.”
Working today...but its going to be my first recreational tonight...will check Q posts..see what was said.
Nit sure where to start my search
Wouldn't we have seen cytokine storms with all those people who participated in the trails of 2020.
Lay off the mushrooms.
When Q referenced the cure vs the disease.... the cure was never the vax, the cure referenced was HCQ and Ivermectin...
Though Q is the master of double speak where a meaning means multiple things
Are all the people who participated in vaccine trials (started a year ago) all dead now? Maybe it’s been covered up.
No. I have a friend who did and is fine right now. (She’s an active RN)
I kind of find it disturbing that there seems to be a spirit of hope in this community that the vaccines fail (Trump initiated and promoted these vaccines by the way).
I’m not getting them because they’re experimental and I am young and healthy so it makes no sense to... but I certainly hope they work and don’t cause harm to anyone, libtard or not.
Trump did not initiate the vaccines. Big Pharma DID.
Trump only forced the Cabal's hand of perpetual lockdowns by implementing Op. Warp Speed which is a logistical approach for expediting medicines et al to the public.
The one thing that bothers me about Trump is him seemingly promoting these "vaccines".
I have several family members who I’m very close to, that are all hell bent on getting the vaccine. Most have received their first shot and will be going for shot 2 soon.
I’m not getting the vaccine myself, but I literally pray every night that the effects of this vaccine won’t be harmful, or at least will be fully recoverable, because there are way too many people in my life who I can do nothing to stop from taking the vaccine.
At this point, all these “everyone will die” posts are just preaching to the choir that already is not taking them, and all it’s doing for me is sending me into a panic.
At this point, if any doctor wants to actually help, they should be presenting things I can convince my loved ones to do to help mitigate the effects, because that’s the only argument I have left.
I’m in the J&J trial. I defo got the placebo though.
How do you respond to the previous animal testing trials with these types of vaccines where the animals DID die?
Is this what is meant by-the end is not for everyone? Is this why President Trump promoted the vaccine and took credit for the rapidity of release and encouraged us to get vaccinated? If this happens...and we already see side effects and deaths..does the "ends justify the means"?
I will not hide from facts and truth, no matter how horrible, but do we really think Q and Trump led us down a path of destruction? Or could there be others at work here?
We are talking about many thousands/millions dying-some are our friends and relatives. People we love. So either Trump and Q were put here for hope and true change, or we just lined up for the cattle cars. We cannot have it both ways. He is a stable genus as we have said many times. He had to know. And I cant believe if Q is so far seeing, this would be the answer.
There can be more then one truth..: this is why the Lord gave us free choice...reasoning... made us inquisitive. I will be saddened and sorrowful if these events come to pass but I will sleep well knowing I warned all I loved and even those I don’t and let them make their own decisions. Q, Trump and others gave the awakening... was up to everyone independently to chose for themselves.... some chose wisely some didn’t. Life is just a collection of the choices we make or don’t.
Thank you. This is an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine so we research, we think about it and we.make our best choice as you said
I think people wonder and research and see this type of news and grow concerned. Others see that this may be disinformation as much as saying vaccines are perfectly safe. I think neither Q or Trump led us down a wrong path-until proven otherwise
Ok - I have no idea where to post this or where to even ask such a question. Suppose one spouse gets the jab and the other one refuses. Can any of that shot be transferred through the exchange of bodily fluids? Does anybody know? What are the physical ramifications? This is beyond horrifying on so many levels.
The storm is upon us?
Thanks fren.... I didn’t create the meme ... just shared .... but when it comes to spelling I can’t throw the first stone ha....
Actually wait, now I’m confused.. I looked it up ... it is cytokine
Yeah I'm a dummy. Just ignore.
Prolly shoulda just dm'd but was feeling lazy. Post incredibly topical to a conversation IRL recently had.
Oh well.
I just remembered something simple which can possibly help prevent cytokine storms:
bicarbonate of soda
https://nexusnewsfeed.com/article/health-healing/study-baking-soda-anti-inflammatory-daily-dose-may-fight-autoimmune-diseases/
I believe vitamin D helps prevent them too.
If this happens there will be more than a few medical people hanging from trees and lampposts.
As they should not only for the past year but since 1913. Let them hang.
When were the first shots given? Seems to me they were started in the autumn, so close on to 6 months now. Seems that if she is right, people should have been dying already. Of course, who knows if they are and it isn't being reported, but if it were in the numbers she and others suggested, we should certainly be hearing something by now, one would think.
The subjects would need to get sick again. That's the rub - not the jab (although issues from the jab itself are being underreported), but getting sick again. And when these people get sick again, it will be difficult to pin the death or major issue on the jab because it happened so long ago. This is called plausible deniability.
As Dr Cahill points out, you can tell by autopsy because the pattern of damage is different if the injury is by viral infection versus by pathogenic priming autoimmune response.
Will they do the autopsies?
Doubt it.
Remember pretty much all deaths are reported as covid. So there ya go.
Of course, the experts will just claim that the virus simply mutated. Nothing to see here... move along.
If you make a fucking info graphic
SPELL THE NAME RIGHT IN THE HEADER
I didn’t make it, just shared it ...but one would think you’d at least get the name correct ... but since I’m not the worlds best speller I can’t throw the first stone...
i assumed you didn't make it but i notice this quite often and I wonder at times if it is deliberate to discredit the information
Taking bets now that. the DIMS will blame Trump.
guess i need to print this up. i have family members that got to the vax...
Calm before the storm? Double meaning?