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"Experts": anyone who got J&J vax should get mRNA vax as a 'booster' (mobile.twitter.com) ?? They're retarded! ??
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– RS34ME 76 points 4 years ago +76 / -0

If I saw my doctor post anything like this, I'd be looking for a new MD.

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– Slyver 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

Doctors are good at trauma. I have no problem with doctors for that. I'm glad they are around.

Medicine, nutrition, anything chemical or physiological, most are idiots. It's a combination of poor training (I know what they teach in medical school) and what motivates many to become doctors. Some do independent learning and become great. Most are just instruments of Big Pharma.

That is a system that is going to need a major overhaul post GA.

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– macocontentfarmer 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

i’m not in primary care, but my med school did not teach anything about nutrition beyond where vitamins fit into biochemistry. not sure where they would have found time… and honestly it’s a waste depending on what you go into.

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– Slyver 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

honestly it’s a waste depending on what you go into.

This is exactly my point.

I'm a cell biologist and biomedical engineering researcher. There is nothing more important to health (not counting fixing trauma from violence) than cell biology and chemical physiology.

Our bodies are nothing more than biochemical machines. That is all we are.

Cells are biochemical machines. Tissues are biochemical machines. Organisms are biochemical machines. All three levels of scope need to be studied from that perspective to even begin to grasp human health, disease, and treatment. It should be the primary focus of every medical degree imo.

The fact that is is not even considered important, but rather that that necessary knowledge is relegated to Big Pharma to let doctors know what to think is the entire fraud in the system.

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– macocontentfarmer 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I don't disagree with anything you said, and maybe the curriculum has been overhauled in the past 20 years. To be fair to my basic science instructors, how does a PhD with no clinical experience bridge that gap?

Perhaps to ease your mind, my clinical experience was dotted with moments of revelation where those random bits of memorized information became relevant to the care of human beings. I'm certain I'm not alone in this...

Regardless, beyond radiation biology and the elimination pathways of a few contrast agents, most of what we're talking about is not useful in my day-to-day work.

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– Slyver 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

how does a PhD with no clinical experience bridge that gap?

I do not mean to suggest that the training a clinician receives is not useful for human health, rather that it is not as useful (no where near as useful) as it would be if the fundamental approach was one of biochemical physiology instead of... well, whatever it is. I'm not sure how I would qualify it, but its not that.

random bits of memorized information

This is kinda also my point. When diagnosing a problem with a car, a good mechanic starts from how a car works. It is much less knowledge based on memory, and more an understanding of the basic principles of function. The best mechanics are engineers. Of course diagnostics is a function of experience as much as functional understanding, but the functional understanding is necessary to really fix the problem.

As example with this analogy. Lets say I have a car that is running low on oil. The obvious fix is to add more oil. That doesn't in any way solve the problem (why the car is low on oil), but it will almost certainly keep the car running just fine. It could keep the car running just fine for a long time so we call that "a fix". Just keep buying more oil. Of course the problem persists and eventually the car will break, no matter how much oil you keep adding (how long you can keep spinning that plate).

In this analogy lets say its a worn ring that is causing the car to burn oil. Eventually that ring will cause enough cylinder wall damage that the engine will seize.

An engineer that saw low oil would begin diagnosing the real problem and, if they cared about the car, would have that engine apart by days end, breaking it down to check the rings and replace them.

Adding more oil is the approach of "medicine" all too often. That is because doctors are not engineers (just ask Bones). The fundamental knowledge of how each piece works separately and together (at multiple levels) changes the approach from one of ongoing treatment of a disease, to fixing the problem at the most basic level. A car can run indefinitely, but only if you understand the car at the physics, chemistry, and engineering level (even if just intuitively). The human body is the same.

Many doctors in my experience, unless they go outside of their core training to learn more and engage in real science, do not think critically, nor fundamentally about health. All of the fundamentals, the biochemical physiology critical thinking is handed off to the people who make the drugs. The doctors, for the most part, take these invested "scientists" at their word, because they lack sufficient knowledge, practice in real science, and discernment of data and analyses to do the critical thinking for themselves.

Doctors (sometimes) diagnose the basic problem fine in general (due in no small part to lab technicians), but then "Fix it" by handing out a prescription for an oil change. Maybe they throw in a car wash prescription as well; because hey, the pharmacology "experts" have it on their list as increasing the efficacy of the oil treatment.

When I was first getting to the part of my education where it was mostly coming from scientific research papers, I assumed that what was in the abstract and discussion sections was sufficient to understand the paper. As time went on and I digested more and more of the papers with less and less difficulty I found that what was in the plates was more important. The data, the pictures, the graphs; that told me pretty much everything I needed to know. From there I learned that what was in the abstract and discussion was very often biased, and sometimes completely untrue based on the rest of their presentation. Only someone who understands the basics intuitively can reach that level of discernment, and be critical of others work. It is that level of understanding of the workings of the body, the chemical physiology that is necessary to be able to prescribe the right things to fix the problem, not treat it.

We don't have the technology (that I am aware of) to fix every problem at this time, but we do have the knowledge of biochemistry (nutrition and other molecules), cell biology, tissue regeneration, etc. to fix a whole lot more than we currently do in "traditional medicine".

This problem was so glaring to me, I used to think it was just incompetence and stubbornness in upper management that created these traditions; "the ruling of the old guard." Now I think this tradition was created by the Cabal to keep us sick and dependent on their money making machine.

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– numina18 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Too bad physicians are not schooled in nutrition. She would then know what the heck she was talking about. It might be better to take individual vitamins, because that way you control the dosage. That is all.

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– axrevolutionai 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I mean for lots of the fat soluble vitamins or heavier minerals, it's not a bad take. No chance of overdosing, overall a tiny bit less absorption keeps jt digestible.

A good multi (say Alive! Or anything by Nature's Way, Rainbow Light, or Solaray) combined with separate D and separate C (because on both of these you want to be over the RDA as much as you can handle) and any other specific supplements (I recommended K2 non mk4 from Asia and turmeric with ginger and black pepper) is probably the best option period

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– Reefay 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

The best thing about C it goes out through your P.

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– Goldenhawk 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

i concur fully, along with Chaga mushroom, i like mine in my morning coffee .../!

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– axrevolutionai 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If you ever feel rich, pick up some rebbbl drinks..they're usually packed with reishi or chaga. The cocoa is delicious, my wife loves it.

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– ChronicMetamorphosis 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Reishi is excellent as a nighttime tea as well.

Lion's Mane goes good with chocolate, imo.

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– BladesOfSteel2020 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

They're downvoting you because they don't understand that in the medical field women and minorities are chosen because of the sex and race and not on their merit. That's why they are dumb as fuck. I'm in the medical field and I'm surrounded by incompetent physicians, pharmacists, dentists, nurses, etc. 90% of the time they are women and minorities.

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– Ameronaut 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

You mean you don’t trust Dr. Sha’quanda Gibsmedat, MD??

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– BladesOfSteel2020 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

LOL hell no!

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– ChronicMetamorphosis 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Wow. You just confirmed something I've noticed since I was a kid, but thought I was being too judgemental about.

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– macocontentfarmer 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

i work with some really smart women, but then i’m not in primary care so there is some selection bias…

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– Darwyn 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

What he's doing his criminal. He might as well be advising people that do cocaine to do fentanyl as well to get a better longer high. The insane part is that these lunatics aren't being arrested for advising people to poison themselves. A few months ago when this started they could claim ignorance but not now.

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– aquasmurf 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'd rather work with a DO than an MD but maybe that's just me.

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– Taffy333 57 points 4 years ago +57 / -0

Guess the J&J shot isn't doing enough of the desired damage.

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– ElectionPredictor 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

Bingo

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– Murphy71 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

It does also seem to get its fair share of heat in terms of random international country and US state bans, perhaps even more than the other vaxes? And wasn’t it the one associated mostly with Trump in the early stages, and therefore the one likely to be massively scapegoated if/when TSHTF?

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– Taffy333 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Yes, this was the one Trump spoke of positively/recommended.

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– The_Watcher 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I think the J & J shot is actually a vaccine while the others are relying on either RNA or DNA insertion.

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– macocontentfarmer 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

iirc j&j is dna in an adenovirus wrapper

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– The_Watcher 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

OK, you may be right. I just saw this:

The Johnson & Johnson shot uses a weakened common cold virus, called an adenovirus, as a vehicle to deliver a single coronavirus gene into human cells.

And that sounded like a conventional vaccine to me, but I am no expert.

The article goes on to say:

That gene then provides the instructions for making the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

So I don't know.

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– macocontentfarmer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

DNA gets transcribed to RNA, which then serves as the blueprint for your cell's machinery to manufacture the spike protein. It's one step removed from the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

India has a non-replicating vaccine that the FDA just recently did not greenlight for emergency use... didn't slip the FDA enough $$$, I guess.

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– RustyShackleford777 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Rookie death rates...

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– 54109597683190674324 43 points 4 years ago +43 / -0

These variants... are they in the room with you right now?

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– killacommieforyourmo 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I'm going to use this.

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– TheyWereCones 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

HAH!

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– numina18 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, just like people can see dead people, I can see variants. They aren't too scary, though.

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– Phishhed44 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Quick!!! Mask-ON!!! (whimper, sniffle).

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– VoatAnon1984 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

1200 plus, I believe. Mutations have evolved weaker, historically.

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– TheyWereCones 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Hah! One of the bestest gifs ever!

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– Phishhed44 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

/u/#honkler

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– shade1k 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Anyone who's not at least a little suspicious of how over the top the push for specifically the mRNA shots is... well, they're beyond help.

It can't be one of the adenovirus shots. It can't be Russia's version. It can't be China's killed virus actual-vaccine shots.

Nope, you need mRNA in your veins, right now!

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– Phishhed44 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

We ARE the last bastion of “Freedom”. They know too we’re one of the only countries with cajones. If people don’t realize this is a WAR, they’re blind at this point.

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– Out0fAmmo 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

"But, they're doctors, they would never lie to us!"

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– wideawakeuk 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Mix'n'Match'n'Vax.

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– kish-kumen 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Might as well order the Sputnik-V and self-injected as well... Just to be safe!!!

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– wideawakeuk 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Full House!

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– ElectionPredictor 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Gotta take them all

POKÉMON

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– Nomoralcompass89 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

"Pokémon go to the polls" - side of beef.

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– TheyWereCones 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I grew up with a Gupta. He was a little bitch too.

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– ElectionPredictor 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Hopefully all of these “doctors” medical licenses are yanked when this is done.

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– corrbrick 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

How about yanking the gallows' trapdoor lever?

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– ElectionPredictor 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Better yet

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– Phishhed44 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Now yer cookin...

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– Deplorable_Badger 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

What a quack. Dr. Gupta reminds me of a doctor that gave his patient six months to live. Patient couldn't pay his bill so the doctor gave him another six months...

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– OldManTouchyBiden 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Because "Go kill yourselves" isn't polite enough.

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– Phishhed44 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

“I’ll take 3 Supremes with sauce”!!!

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– Phishhed44 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

??

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– JackieDaytona74 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Always wondered if the J&J shot was actually somewhat safe due to the different mechanism it operates under and given that they pulled it off the market because half a dozen people developed blood clots.

Compare that to almost 6k dead (that the CDC admits to) for the Moderna and Pfizer "vaccines".

By no means am I saying that the J&J vaccine is "safe", but always had the impression that it might not have the lasting consequences that the other two will have. This story just reaffirms that gut feeling.

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– BigsmokeyTXwolf 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Essentially a rumor. Doctors shouldn't operate based on rumor.

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– Jackdagger 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Hahaha. I had a suspicion this is why Trump pushed J and J despite the. Having no track record. While I still wouldn't take it they used traditional methods for vaccine instead of mrna it seems. I have told countless people if you have to get one I dont reccomend it but it seems like the lesser of the evils since it isn't literally new technology

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– HellofAWoman99 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Stop spreading lies????

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– Saint_Duck 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Shouldn't you get all three?? You know, just to be safe?

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– DoMagnum 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They want to make sure you don't miss out on ay of their "special, secret ingredients". No Body Count, No Bonus.

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– R3tro 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Gupta is a faggot... don’t ever listen to a faggot !!!!

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– ElectionPredictor 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

https://archive.is/1jGEV

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– CCGJoe 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Really don't understand why a vaccine would be different from others, a vaccine should contain the same recipe as all others when treating the same virus.

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– numina18 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That way we can make sure you are wrecked, permanently.

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– kish-kumen 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Wtf mate...

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– dty6 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

who is this quack?

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– Covfefe_Time 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

"seems"

How scientific! Also his use of air quotes Around "booster" does not inspire confidence.

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– LoobintheToobin 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Feb 9 2020, (efficacy single shot reported 66%) “J&J CEO says people may need annual COVID-19 vaccine shots for next several years” — https://archive.vn/QIqiC

Dec 4 2020: “What’s with the Government COVID Vaccine Cards?” https://archive.vn/tkM7J Reason provided: "“The two leading vaccine candidates from Pfizer and Moderna each require two doses. In addition, the immunizations are not interchangeable, so it is critical people know which vaccine they’ve received before getting their second shots” (note article from Jan 2 2021 saying mixing vaccines is ok. https://archive.vn/cM0ga )

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– Phishhed44 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Been wundrin about interchangeably since this started. TY ??

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– LoobintheToobin 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The history has a ring of chaos theory to it. It’s fine, it’s not fine, it will kill you, get them all, get them all twice!

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– Phishhed44 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah. I mean HECK NOOO ?

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– TBIYTCQC 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Keep your nasty a$$ gene therapy for your nanny Mr. Vin Gupta.

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– Subject117 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

How about I just take neither.

Thanks.

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– Phoenix4th 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

If they say X do Y. Do the opposite.

I guess J&J is the least trashy vaccine compared to the others and its not doing enough damage as they wanted. Gotta mix it with the others!

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– Phishhed44 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Owned. What they got on you Gupta?

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– RedTX 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Perhaps he is a diddler, or participates in some other degenerate crap...

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– Phishhed44 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

More than likely. Big P owned at minimum and complicit to CAH.

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– basilpesto 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Dr of Dumb

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– Striker1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Two punches in the nose are better than one. WTH? These people are relentlessly evil.

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