I’m in a war with a vax shaming Karen who thinks I am killing myself, my 15 year old boys, and the entire world by failing to get vaccinated. She doesn’t care that I’ve had covid and therefore carry natural antibodies. She screamed that I’m probably one of those people who will get covid and then turn to horse medicine to save myself and my boys.
So, I’m asking for your help to assemble a list of definitive sources that we can all use to battle this increasingly vicious attack on (1) unvaccinated people and (2) Ivermectin. With growing urgency, we need to all be ready to combat, with unimpeachable sources, the narrative that the stubborn and unvaccinated are the cause of all the variants, and that Ivermectin is dangerous.
Here’s what the MSM, CDC and FDA are saying about Ivermectin:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/health/ivermectin-covid-19-warning-injuries/index.html
Vax shamers point to this recent release by the CDC dissing ivermectin, but if you read the notice rather than the headline, it only says that some (undefined number) people are using the wrong dosage and/or using animal formulations; they are NOT saying it is unsafe in the proper dosage and form. They admit that there are some clinical studies underway. Still, folks are running with this to say it is dangerous. https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2021/pdf/CDC_HAN_449.pdf
The FDA recently tweeted, “You’re not a horse. You’re not a cow. Seriously y’all. Stop it.” https://twitter.com/US_FDA/status/1429050070243192839 and then they linked to their guidance that no one should use ivermectin for covid, but if you read the text after the headline, the text says ivermectin has been used safely for humans in proper dosages (as opposed to horse dosages, hello) for things like lice and parasites in humans … and that studies are underway for covid. But the headline misdirects by screaming that “you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent covid.” https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
With regard to covid, the MSM, CDC, NIH and FDA are all ignoring that India has nearly stopped Delta in its tracks by going to ivermectin – safely dosed, of course – for humans. Since moving to Ivermectin rather than vaccines, Delhi has eradicated 97% of new cases. https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html
This is a good summary of how the medical establishment, US government and MSM have tried to quash the efficacy of Ivermectin: https://www.yourobserver.com/article/the-battle-for-ivermectin
As for natural immunity, a new Israeli study which is currently undergoing peer review says people with natural immunity from having had covid are 13 times more protected from a breakthrough infection than someone with two Pfizer shots https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
Ivermectin Recommendations
I've been following ivermectin since it was first mentioned as having serious potential for COVID-19 treatment back in April/May 2020. This is because I have used Ivermectin for over 30 years on my herd of horses, and I have a supply on my shelf at all times. Thus, it was fascinating to me.
A couple years ago, a friend sent me this, written in Feb 2011: Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
And there is this article from Feb 2017: Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
Fast forward to now and Ivermectin has substantial studies, research and info backing it. And not "influencers", but brave doctors and scientists.
Great story about how Ivermectin use for COVID-19 developed this past year: https://www.mountainhomemag.com/2021/05/01/356270/the-drug-that-cracked-covid
Dr. Pierre Kory, Senate Hearing, Dec 2020: https://rumble.com/vbqlmp-dr.-pierre-kory-speaks-about-ivermectin.html
Ivermectin, being an anti-parasitic drug, not only fights parasites, but contains an element which inhibits replication in both viruses and parasites: From Abstract: "We surmise that this may be connected to ivermectin's ability to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication, which likely leads to lower infection rates. " https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33259913/ -Published NIH, Nov 28, 2020
Much more:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/epidemiologic-analyses-on-covid19-and-ivermectin/
https://c19ivermectin.com/
https://c19early.com/
https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
Username checks out (not a dig, just being cheeky)
The 2011 article on Ivermectin is great. It talks about how Japan discovered Avermectin and formed a derivative called Ivermectin a few years later. Trials began in animals then moved to humans after seeing high success rates treating various conditions. It was then manufactured and distributed for human use as early as the the 1980's. Avermectin won a Nobel Prize in 2015 for its application as an anti-parasitic treatment.
It literally cures over a dozen diseases that are prominent in the third-world, especially in tropical regions. That paper alone should be enough to convince anyone that Ivermectin is safe and effective for humans. It even kills lice. The problem is that it will take a normie several hours to read the paper, much less digest the info...sad but true.
This is fantastic, thanks.
This is a great website for ivermectin. It compiles the data from all ivermectin trials:
https://ivmmeta.com
As you can see, when used as a prophylaxis, 14 studies showed that ivermectin produces an overall 86% improvement, with the death rate being reduced by 88% in one study and 99% in another.
Also, I know you asked for facts and statistics, rather than memes, but this meme is a nice way to make the vaccine worshippers realize what they are getting themselves in to:
https://greatawakening.win/p/12kFL63ePU/loyalty-card/c/
Great resources
Call them Ivermectin Deniers.
Point out that Ivermectin is ten times less toxic than table salt and ask them whether they eat salt, knowing that it's toxic and that it won't cure covid.
I was arguing with someone about Ivermectine and they kept mentioning horses. So I played dumb and kept asking them what horses had anything to do with it and kept mentioning I could get it from a pharmacy with a doctor’s prescription.
They kept going on about horses and putting it in people's bites or something. It really makes them look like fools when you just simply say you can get it in a pharmacy.
In the end I told him "tell me you're a furry without telling me you're a furry."
Making fun of them when they're trying to be serious is an easy way to get under their skin.
Oh, that’s a good one😉
Mexico uses it: https://speakingaboutnews.com/mexico-city-introduced-ivermectin-plan-covid-hospitalizations-and-deaths-disappeared/
Japan uses it: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-japanese-medical-association-chairman-tells-doctors-to-prescribe-ivermectin-for-covid/
India uses it: https://www.thedesertreview.com/news/national/ivermectin-obliterates-97-percent-of-delhi-cases/article_6a3be6b2-c31f-11eb-836d-2722d2325a08.html
Is she saying all of the countries around the world are stupid or dumb? Is she a racist that she would look down on other cultures? Hopefully she’s not a racist too.
Israel did a big study and guess what? Using your natural body to fight it is really the best thing: https://t.co/DcCpBoMFWd?amp=1
If you want to avoid death, because you are super fat or super old, then use Ivermectin. Otherwise, it’s a cold, just suck it up like we did back in the 2010’s
YES!
Play the racist card. Instawin
Yup, and if you want some more whiteness, this UK study is good too: https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/bombshell-uk-data-destroys-entire
Why the hell do idiots think that man made vaccines are better than God’s creation? Our natural immune system is always the best.
I like to point out that viruses evolve in real time, to overcome challenges in their environment (such as a vaccine, or an immune response)...
And that our immune system is also evolving in real time, to meet the new challenges, such as a new variant of a virus.
Then call them evolution deniers, and mock them for foolishly believing last weeks vaccine could be effective against this weeks viruses.
All the studies related to Ivermectin: http://c19ivermectin.com/
As for vaccine, just tell her that you will take a vaccine only if:
It is necessary
It is effective
It is safe
These vaccines are none of them. Lets break it down:
Here is the simple prevention plan
Dr. Richard Fleming treated 8000 patients and came up with 3 protocols that worked across the board when used in conjuction:
However the studies from Israel and UK both show that vaccinated people are catching Covid (66% of delta variant patients were vaccinated in UK. I think it was 56% in Israel iirc)
New studies are showing that wild variants seem to become completely immune to vaccine
Dr Zelenko interview
Dr Richard Fleming event 2021 - MUST WATCH - please please watch this. Skip first 15 mins
Dr Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA vaccine technology This video is perfect to show your liberal friends because all three of them are liberals and pro-vaccines.
Cool 😎
I am proud to see "safe, effective, necessary - it must be all three" repeated in the wild. I have been touting those three tests for some years.
Necessary is the best test, because if you are not going to die from something then there is no need of a vaccine to begin with, and even if you could die, if you arent going to catch it, again no need.
This is the reasoning that helped me decide not to vaccinate my children, simple really, you just quarantine your child when young from dangerous disease. Are they really going to be exposed to polio at 6 months old? not a chance, so you do not need it to begin with.
These are the three tests which must be spread as far and wide. You cannot advocate a vaccine if it fails one of these tests, anyone who still does is operating outside of reason and logic. People should make their own assessment, of course.
But in this case it fails all three tests, and yet people somehow tie their brains in knots and take the vaccines anyway.
The initial "study" is meaningless anyway because halfway through, both Moderna and Pfizer gave most of their control groups the vaccines. So no blinding, no control group, and as I recall, their subjects weren't representative of a random sample, either. Why anyone would take them seriously is a wonder.
Yeah scientifically those studies are a total joke.
now i know why they didn't have a public comment period for the 'approval' they just did. I'm under the impression this is highly unusual way of business in the approval process. Usually there is a period for public comments for public to bring up any concerns. For the BioNTech there wasn't any.
Their trials wouldn't have passed muster in my graduate school. But by now they also can't afford public comment because now there is a big body of evidence against them. It was Moderna too. I haven't seen the prospectus for AZ or J&J, would be interesting to compare.
Please note that the claim of 95% effectiveness is deceptive as it is based on relative risk reduction when the appropriate measurement to use is absolute risk reduction.
The absolute risk reduction of this vaccine? Less than 1%.
https://rumble.com/vleq43-informed-consent-its-your-right.html
0.7% exactly. But its below margin of error so meaningless
And if you link to Dr. Robert Malone, make sure to mention he's never claimed to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines. He does have multiple patents that form the foundation of the technology which was used to create them, however.
Fren, tell her to f off and go on with your life. Cheezits. We need you here, not tangling with people like that.
No. Waking people up on social media sites IS A MUST. I have A LOT of people pming me. "keep doing what you're doing", "I'm sorry, you were right" etc. People are waking up and we need boots on the ground on the digital battlefield. Never. Retreat. Each of us has our rightful skills and place.
^^^
THIS
Is this vax shaming Karen war on social media?
I don't think so.
I feel like soccer moms are my biggest fans lol
Your username says it all 😂
Exactly this ^^^
This. Research is fine and good, but ultimately just dgaf.
Sorry not research, but something that might help. I have a family member who has now broken away from the MSM narrative. She has rosacea. I told her ivermectin is sometimes used for it. She went and looked at her prescription cream, and it's ivermectin. She was hardcore Hillary then Warren supporter. She is waking up!
Here's a one stop shop. Check the blue bar at the top for HCQ studies and other medications.
https://ivmmeta.com/
Hi, from what you've posted it seems like you have enough material to refute her, but honestly, why do you need to? Unless she's like, your mother, you don't owe her any explanation. I'd suggest you try to be brave and simply tell her to stop harassing's you, that you have made your decision and you don't owe her any explanation. That's putting it politely. :D
She's an important part of my kids' lives. They think of her as their favorite aunt.
Aww. that's sweet. And I'm sure she is well meaning. Regardless, they are YOUR children and she needs to back off, imo.
definitely suggest reading this one for ivermectin https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
india has whooped covids ass using ivermectin the media is refusing to report on it
And unlike Pfizer and Moderna's laughable fake trials, India actually had random subjects and a control group (Kerala and Tamil Nadu). The latter went with Remdesvir so it can now be compared to Ivermectin..
WinsAnon!
I’m going to assume this Karen is someone close to the family or is one of the fam… otherwise this would never be worth your time, energy and effort.
Fren, rethink your strategy…
Logic and reason will not win or sway, you are dealing with the unreasonable, the emotional, the delusional…. This has put you on the defensive, the power upper-hand is not yours. Take a page out of Trump’s book… shock, misdirect, feign, then go nuclear.
You need to short circuit this Karen with a well placed attack - suggest you use their own playbook against them.
“Stop spreading misinformation, you’re killing people with your lies”
“Enough with the hate speech, you’re the reason minorities are not getting the help they need”
“If you’re not smart enough on the subject you shouldn’t be spreading lies and disinformation”
… any one of those will ratchet up her wrath, which will then prove what you said is true ;)
Goal is not to inform her, the goal is to short circuit and live rent free in her mind.
It does work.
I've completely ridiculed people into oblivion.
Act with conviction and controlled anger.
And after giving them the fucking facts, as they stare in horror, walk away and mutter "seriously, are you stupid?"
"I've completely ridiculed people into oblivion."
#STILLlaughingoutloud
I have been kind to her so far and still she won't relent. She says I'm killing myself by refusing the vaccine and my kids need me to live. I told her I have 13 times more immunity than she does because I'd had covid - largely uneventful, by the way, with just four days of exhaustion, a sore throat, headaches and temporary loss of smell and taste.
She then says, "but you are ignoring that you could have even more immunity if you also got the vaccine." I said "1300% better immunity than yours is good enough for me, thanks."
Then she said I'm risking that the boys will die, or have long haulers syndrome, which she admits is not a sure thing. I explained that it is not certain (1) that they will get covid, (2) that they will suffer from it, (3) that all the therapeutics will fail for them, and (4) that they will have any long term effects from it. But giving them the jab would enter them onto a risk of bad things voluntarily for something I feel they just don't need.
She is important to my kids, kind of their favorite aunt who spoils them regularly. She just took them to Hawaii a month ago and she takes them on trips once a year. She has no kids and my kids are her entire life.
I can't imagine the shock and horror if she ever found out you're on this board... even a top contributor! That will drive her over the edge of oblivion.
Unfortunately, no amount of logic or reasoning will get through to her. She is operating far below that baseline - fear driven, flight response syndrome.
The potential issue I see is she pressuring your kids to get the jab without your consent or knowledge although I thought your fam was all jabbed except you. This must be squashed, but the bastion is your boys... they must learn and be based, not to take the jab.
Tread well fren, a human mind in a state of delusion is easily manipulated and controlled - the fear is beyond real, it's ultra-reality.
Know this, she is using your kids as a way to sway you. With every wall you put up, she will eventually associate that with you 'not caring' for their well-being -- this is dangerous. So this vector needs to be redirected (this is key).
2 potential methods...
Redirect the fear feedback-loop, until she breaks (the way of nature's fury) -- vids, articles, anecdotal social media posts, images, etc. of vaccine withdrawal and side effects. Focus on women, especially bad are miscarriages etc. Show her the horrors and pain these women are going through... but your message is always "is this what you want for my kids?". Repeat, drip it. this is Psy Warfare.
Create a new 'conversation' around her well-being (the way of nurture's embrace) -- as you've been kind, ask her how she's doing. Say that you're worried about her health. You don't have to prove she has a health issue, you just need to repeat it, constantly... create dissonance in her mind. e.g. say you've noticed a shift in her the past X weeks, how she's very aggressive (or whatever health issue) you're worried she is going through a depression, etc. The goal is to have her be on the defensive... to prove to you, she is healthy. Again, you don't have to accept 'proof', you just need to keep re-creating the conversation. but the key is to do it in a nurturing way. This is Psy Warefare.
Remember, she is operating far below the baseline of reason and logic -- step 1 is to shift her attention on herself (not you, or the kids).
When one look inwards and contemplates, they will eventually find the redpill.
I have been thinking - why is it that ivermectin/HCQ have been discouraged. They are used to fight parasites. I was searching around for the difference between a virus and a parasite. According to the NiH, a virus is a small parasite.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21523/
I realize they are two different things, but the success of HCQ/ivermectin is intriguing. Pre-CV, everyone was told to just deal whenever you got a virus, in part because of the over prescription of antibiotics which are intended for bacteria infections. It got me thinking - what if this is a parasite? But I couldn't think of a delivery system, aka mosquitoes for malaria. But the fact that anti-parasitical drugs are working against CV....who knows?
In order for the vaccine to be approved for Emergency Use Authorization, the FDA must have already exhausted all of their options then they can proceed with the approval of the vaccines. That's why we've been seeing a lot of suppression of information on HCQ/ivermectin because they want us to think HCQ/Ivermectin doesn't work so they can go ahead and approve the clot-shot.
Talking to a college friend right now via email and I told them about Japan, Germany (I meant India but I said "Germany" to them by mistake) and Mexico are using Ivermectin and they said No that's not true, it's a dewormer for horses so what I said was a lie. And this friend no longer lives in America, so clearly the mainstream media have a huge stranglehold worldwide now.
I had the same epiphany last night! Especially after reading that a parasite was found in the Pfizer jab solution. Imagine if C-19 is actually a parasite?!
That’s the underlying science here.
Technically whether a parasite is a Virus or a more complicated Organism - the bio mechanisms that make anti-malarial drugs work applies.
All they do is basically make osmosis between cells harder so it slows replication of anything and bolsters the immune system. It’s that simple.
The word 'parasite' is used as an umbrella term that includes all pathogens. The biggest FRAUD on earth is a virus being a parasite though. Virologists readily admit viruses are not alive. So what are they then? They are really sub-cellular debris when a cell dies. All living matter execrate waste. When a massive amount of cells die at once, it is referred to necrosis. When a cell dies, its membrane begins to collapse as a result of changes in its composition. This produces toxic substances that escape from the cell. In Germ Theory, this called a 'virus'. The entire virus argument is based on these 'un-alive' 'viruses' coming from 'somewhere' in the external environment. However, there has never been any evidence to validate this.
What if toxins from the environment affected our immune system? What if these toxins affected us at the cellular level? What if our cells constantly rid itself of these toxins by packaging them up and execrate them from the cell as tiny spheroids of proteins called exosomes. These exosomes can act as messengers to alert other cells of a particular poison. So all through the body more and more cells package up the poisonous material and then release it. This occurs in our daily living. However, when there is an massive excess of a toxins, the build up overwhelmes the body. This is called 'Exosome Theory'.
The reason I mentioned this is because the entire pharmaceutical medical establishment is dependent on 'Germ Theory' and is a religion. This religion is literally 'Snake oil' fraudsters, who call these set of symptoms a disease and therefore treat the symptoms of the disease. This is why the common cold has never been cured.
The reason why Ivermectin works on "COVID-19" is because it is killing the parasitic worms that is causing illness. There is however, 'something' else going on with "COVID-19". The symptoms are identical to graphene oxide (GO) toxicity. Ironically, GO has some very similar symptoms to asbestosis (asbestos poisoning). Is GO the agent creating an environment for parasitic worms to multiply?
At this point it is wasted energy, fren. There is no link, video, or report from anyone alive that will change Karen's mind. Until Karen loses access to basic survival items she will not wake up.
She will deboonk everything you send her. Wasted energy. You told her the truth and she did not have an ear to listen. Share out the truth, but don't waste your energy or time in tit-for-tat BS.
Take care of your family and hold the line with your Patriot frens. We WILL win in the end and when people come around they will beg your forgiveness, if they survive.
There are no times in history that can compare to these, so know one really knows what to expect. Hold the line 🇺🇲🙏.
Many people's minds have been changed. Many here were not awake a few years ago. How did our minds change? Most changed gradually, with little, "Hmm, that doesn't seem right" or "Well, I know that's a lie" moments until the evidence became overwhelming enough to force us to reassess some of our fundamental beliefs.
Yes, many will wake up still. I believe that and will continue to spread information.
My point is about the tit-for-tat arguments with Karen's. We must pick our battles and those people are usually just looking for their daily dose of confirmation bias. They are energy vampires and are great at sucking up your energy that can support the greater effort in better ways.
When Ms. Karen TrplVaxxer on FB says you are danger to society and are spreading lies and demands evidence I don't go digging up links or finding evidence that I don't already have. If I have something handy, great, I'll post it, but I won't be sticking around for her next reply. Not waiting for her 'aha' moment. Best thing for me to do is just move on. Interaction complete. There will be new news and lies tomorrow. My kids need me to prep for that extra week of sustenance and protection and some other person on some other forum may need that link to wake up soon, albeit not in real-time like popcorn.
That's my point. Not sure why I got down voted, but so be it. This isn't my first rodeo. Been doing this for 17 years (literally 17 haha).
This an incorrect assessment. You are right that there is no data or argument to change a VaxKaren’s mind. They are simply too stupid and emotional to respond to logic and reason; rhetoric is required to break through.
Rhetoric is what got them going in the first place. OP is looking for a rhetorical kill shot to cut through the noise.
This is a great idea. After the BS I had to put up with yesterday. There was 1 of the 4 who refused to look at any evidence I posted, even called my opinion ’trash’ . When she started lying I blocked her. The others one by one stopped attacking me and went quiet. One talks a little more and her last post showed I’d made some sense. Glad I got to one of them for sure.
If anyone has any links for pregnant women & vaccines/treatment therapeutics for pregnant women…
… I find myself in a bit of a crisis right now. Going to meet with a trusted (but pro-vax) Dr tomorrow because my wife has been deep in MSM & Google propaganda. She is scared to death and thinks she is going to be killed by COVID at any given instant. Keep in mind, we haven’t worn a mask since March2020, have been healthy, have traveled all over the US in the last 2 years, basically she is experiencing fear paralysis. She wants the vaccine but I do not want her to because of baby, maybe 4 months till birth. If she wasn’t pregnant I still wouldn’t want her to, but people are free to do their own choices. Very conflicted situation, been arguing for weeks. Need fking relief.
After reading some of the info here, (Wow is there some good reads out there) pregnancy is a huge VARIABLE in all of this from any side you look. I think honestly no one really knows. Only argument I have for her not getting the vax is basically all the propaganda surrounding it & how it became a “political” virus, not to mention we don’t 100% know immune system effects, and long term health effects, which should be enough but it isn’t. Fear is triumphant of logic in 2021 & this applies to damn near all of us millennials.
Going to keep reading, but just wanted to see if anyone else is in similar situation and has some info for relief. It’s not really me, it is her. I have become so angry and bitter over all this shit, I am almost useless when it comes to talking about it with her. My compassion is gone, the vaccine is a joke, and I can’t believe we do not just look to INDIA for a 🦆 ducking answer. I mean… damn near highest population densities on the globe & cases per day SUB 100. Wake up world……
Anyway, rambling, Godspeed folks. Thanks for this post WinsAnon. I needed this. Sadly, I am a weakling right now.
It’s a hard road when the other spouse doesn’t believe… it must be so much worse with a baby coming. I hope you find the answers that will sink in for her. Prayers for you all.
Ty both, just trying to navigate & at the same time keep my marriage as very high if not top priority.
There is a lot of information out there against traditional vaccinations while pregnant - the big one is rubella. When we were getting ready to try, my doctor warned me to use birth control for several weeks because of the dangers to the baby. Perhaps if you point out that this is for a vaccine that has actually been rigorously tested and has a solid body of evidence - why risk on an unknown where we do not know the long term consequences?
I haven't looked, but RFK Jr.'s site, Children's Defense Fund might have something. The Luke Storey podcast that someone linked recently has good background on long term affects.
https://www.lukestorey.com/transcripts/shot-in-the-dark-blowing-the-whistle-on-the-vaccne-industry-covd-w/-robert-f-kennedy-jr-299#
Follow https://twitter.com/Covid19Critical https://twitter.com/drsimonegold https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher and you will find tons of relevant links
Good data & links; https://www.covidtreatmentoptions.com/#ivermectin
Dr Zalenko; https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/
AFLD News links; https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/news/
Two pedes have posted Dr. Christina Parks presentation. She gives a very good explanation of what the jab does and doesn't do. It doesn't do anything about stopping transmission and was never intended to. She discusses the treatments that have been canceled.
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
American Journal of Therapeutics: July/August 2021 - Volume 28 - Issue 4 - p e434-e460
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
I was going to contribute my go to link but you already have it up there. Good work pede
Lots of good research here. Over the last year, my horse vet no longer recommends worming my horses 4x/year. Instead she wants to do a fecal test first so you treat only when needed. For maybe 10-20 years there’s been talk of the worms becoming immune to the wormers through over use so of course the vets saying this then makes sense. I however disagree and continue with what has worked. 1st why test and treat with the same paste I’d use anyway? 2nd my horse has been healthy so why let him be infested? 3rd I wonder if this allows the horses to pass it to humans as they said covid would & then idiots are getting worms & thinking it’s covid.
I think this concept of “animal reservoirs” is a little concerning - it makes it seem as though “COVID-19” isn’t going away anytime soon. This isn’t like smallpox where you can vaccinate it away - these animals being able to become infected and transmit it is freaking me out. I think it makes sense you continue to do what has worked in the past for your horses.
Some studies for you fren:
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations
https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1043661820315152
Mmmm, yummy sauce.
Hope this helps fren, of course 'Karen' would have to understand long words, so...
This recent paper about treatments for Covid published in a peer reviewed journal is an absolute blockbuster
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297521000792
Uh this chick sounds like a “my mind’s made up don’t confuse me with the facts” type person. I think if someone chooses to deny something that we ALL knew two years ago and that is if you catch a coronavirus and recover not only can you not catch it again but there is no worry of passing it to anyone once you are well. Seriously how can you convince someone who’s abandon all reason, seems like a waste of energy.
*edit: I do however really appreciate all this information in one place, there are those who want to know this stuff. Thank you.
Someone posted this on another thread... grab a cup of coffee. This has become my go to response when I see dumb comments.
https://pdfhost.io/v/JlwLHwnhU_COVID19_Leaky_Vaccine_Hesitancy.pdf
Watched this 17-minute video tonight, and wow, excellent video. Dr. Cole keeps it simple for all to understand, but shows scans/photos to back up the data. He also explains why those with natural immunity should never take the shot (spoiler: it will likely kill you). He finishes with the uptick in cancers he’s seeing in the past 6 months.
A Pathologist Summary of what these Jabs do to the Brain and Other Organs - Dr. Ryan Cole https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html
No one in their right mind would take the shot after watching this. But then again, I’m using logic and that doesn’t seem to apply to the plandemic.
Wow looks like I came here at the right time. I'm also having a conversation with someone I knew from college, but have moved away to another country. They're claiming the vaccines are safe and there's nothing wrong with it. They are also saying they're not seeing the protests or anyone objecting to the vaccines. It's like they are hermits and haven't been out to see what's going on with the world. Yes, they also think Bidet is doing a great job handling the Afghanistan situation.
And to think, I used to think that person is really smart, and once considered them the sibling I never had. And now I'm getting this kind of information from someone who is clearly misinformed big time.
I had my email typed out but I'm sure they would be asking for references and with the search option here being iffy, I was hoping to find a thread where it will cover everything about the vaccine and ivermectin and I see your post!
THANKS!
Having all of this information gathered here is a great idea, but don't expect that it will help you to win arguments with those who are aggressive towards the unvaxed.
This is a cult-like situation, and many people have chosen to simply follow the cult rather than think for themselves. If the cult leaders told them to drink the deadly Kool-Aid, these people are ready to drink without hesitation.
Therefore, it might be helpful to begin learning how to help people who are inside cults - if such a thing is possible. I don't think logic is the correct tool for this situation.
You can gather all the unimpeachable sources and brilliant arguments you want. People like this will only get angrier when you try to convince them. Let her get all the shots she wants and ignore her.
The irony that a state of fear actually drops the immune system and allows pathogens their big chance. Kiss Karen goodbye - if she stays like that TOO long, something WILL get her. Might not even be Rona!
There is no supply of the approved vaccine. There is no approval of the supplied vaccine. None of them are actual vaccines. None of them DO ANYTHING.
Agreed, tell her to F off and eat a big bag of Ds...
(I'm not sure if horses get brain cancer) Ivermectin significantly inhibits growth and anchorage-independent colony formation in U87 and T98G glioblastoma cells. It induces apoptosis in these cells through a caspase-dependent manner. Ivermectin significantly suppresses the growth of two independent glioblastoma xenograft mouse models. In addition, ivermectin effectively targets angiogenesis through inhibiting capillary network formation, proliferation and survival in human brain microvascular endothelial cell (HBMEC).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27771251/