I bet you meant NAC instead of NAD (I haven't seen the vid) but NAD (or rather NAD+) is an interesting supplement that should be helpful for many with COVID symptoms -- and for older people and for anyone feeling low on energy. NAD+ is a coenzyme that, among other things, helps create ATP, the body's energy transport molecule. We make less of it as we get older.
Why would it not be NAC? It's been throughly studied and is included in many Covid protocols. To the degree that I understand that they are making it unavailable without prescription.
Very interesting for me. I am pretty sure I have mitochondrial dysfunction as my energy just isn't there BUT by using a LARGE Infra Red light I get most of it back. So that deduces to my Mitochondria (as diet is fine, tested, experimented on, etc.)
I will pick some NAD+ up. BTW - I think my MD was stress induced and just never came back.
Open to any other ideas for potential mitochondrial dysfunction. Thx again
These aren't like drugs (meth, for instance) that bring a jolt immediately so you'll need to take them for a few weeks in many cases to notice a difference. Most of these are good for overall health and vitality especially in older people, whose bodies are producing less and less CoQ10 and other important substances.
I started taking acetyl-l-carnitine and other forms of Carnitine plus Alpha-lipoic acid (or better still, R-Lipoic acid) years ago after reading that a patent had been issued for the combination of those two supplements based largely on studies (mostly of dogs) showing it made older animals look and behave like younger animals.
I'm pretty familiar with CoQ10 (and I believe I took a stronger form, forget the name) and take it now. Stopped the carnatine a few months back. I take PQQ, MitoQ, etc. I have seen no noticeable change from taking them. But if I stop the red light, my vision deteriorates, my energy goes down a lot, my body pain comes back, and on. And even though I have energy now, I have much much lower stamina. Anyway, I'll try someone from LE once the supply I have (which includes many of the same stuff) is less.
I'll make sure to get the combination right though!
But all the great replies to me really give me some direction and dare I say, hope.
Cytochrome C oxidase which is the 4th cytochrome, has 4 red light chromophores. So Therapeutic frequencies of red and near infrared light, which penetrate deeper than other parts of the light spectrum, cause the ATPase (fith cytochrome) to spin faster which means more ATP production for a cell even when electron tunneling and/or proton recylcing programs are broken for other reasons.
and as far as consumer level red light products that actually work in the advertized frequencies and eliminated other issues with fake light exposure, this is the product that dominates the industry right now
If you live/work behind windows/glass, you have subtracted or diminished key solar frequenices we are adapted to live under, being chronically red light and UV light deficient are a big issue for humans (and pets). For myself when I can't get out in the Arizona sun I use a Firewave from that company, and combine it with UVA / UVB bulbs for indoors. It doesn't replace the sun, but it's better than only soaking in blue light dominant screens and LEDs much of the day.
This forum thread is overall about experimenting with nicotine gum for mitochondiral function boost, and UV/IR light exposure, but read Jack's comments tying many things together they are key
Yes. A surprising number of supplements (fisetin, quercetin, glucosamine, etc) have shown life-extending properties, and health-extending properties as well, meaning not only will you probably live a few years longer but will be having a better quality of life in old age.
As a long time listener/ viewer of his podcast and shows, I heard Tim mention several months back that he wasn't interested in getting the shot; citing that he was healthy. Don't know if that had changed since then.
I agree, he’s annoying like that, but he claims he only took the ivermectin after he was already starting to feel a lot better after taking the monoclonal antibodies and others. He claims it was only after his doctor insisted that he finish the full kitchen sink treatment that he took the ivm and zpack.
He ❤️‘s to fence sit while everyone else takes bullets in the fight.
Then, he comes out when it’s all safe.🐸
Not to mention, how did he test positive for COVID?‼️
We all know that test is crap❗️It could have been anything❗️The freakin’ flu, rhinovirus, walking pneumonia, who knows? As long as people keep saying Covid, the lie stays alive and confuses the masses.
"I believe it was the monoclonal antibodies is what did the trick" fucking Tim being Tim as usual! What did it was the Ivermectin. People have had the CCP flu, took Ivermectin, and have gotten better within hours and that's been proven in many cases. I'm not disparaging the antibodies, Zpac, or any of the other stuff he got which I have no doubt supported the Ivermectin but Ivermectin is the key. The paste is the SAME as the pill so don't let people tell you it's not. Get a stock pile of the paste ASAP for the winter because you or someone in your family might need it.
he specifically explains that he got better before taking Ivermectin because he distrusts it and when he was already feeling well the doctor insisted that he should take it in case of resurgence of the illness.
Apparently he was feeling better before even taking the ivermectin. Luckily whichever doctor he found recommended him to take the Ivermectin anyway once he started feeling better to make sure the symptoms didn't return.
I like to rag on Tim but I don't see any reason for him to have made up the timeline. So I'm sure he got better without the Ivermectin first but likely stayed better because of IVM
Grifters gonna grift. I think he saw how much attention Rogan got and wanted some of that action. And you are correct, a defamation lawsuit would be icing on the cake.
My daughter’s fiancé is a long distance truck driver & she rides with him. Well you know it’s hard for them to eat healthy meals on the road every day for months at at time. So they are home visiting & taking a break for a bit, and her stomach (and his also) has been bothering her since before they got home, and she’s taken a few different meds for it & none worked for her. I told her how some people (here on the forum) said that ivermectin helped their intestinal issues, so I said if you want some (paste form) in yogurt let me know. So 2 days ago she said “mom fix me up some yogurt.” So I did, within maybe 2 hours she said her stomach was feeling totally better, and has been good since. This morning she said fix up some yogurt for her boyfriend, so I did, he chugged it down. We shall see how he feels in a few hours.
Ha! I didn't want to freak them out, lol, but I thought about it. I figured if they saw something unusual they would say something. Daughter's finace said it made his stomach better too within probably 2 hours or so, no more pain. Hubby & I bet it's from food they eat on the road, because their stomachs weren't feeling good when they came home.
So be famous, have a lot of money, and theres a good chance youll survive an extreme bout of covid. I wonder if Tim was exaggerating his case for clicks?
monoclonap antibodies work. I disnt have ivermectin, but took hcq, azitheomycin.
Any of you that hasnt had covid, get your script for ivermectin and or hcq now. Once you get covid it takes too damn long to get these meds. Get them now, get an appt and say you want these for future sickness. That is what I did with hcq and azithromycin.
Patriotic L Can we get the prescriptions with our PCP? I thought we didn’t. I have an appointment coming up and I really want those meds in my cabinet.
Totally depends on your Dr AND your Pharmacist. Get the horse paste it's 💯 %. If you neigh won't get the horse paste, there's online pharmacies where you can get the pills. Checkout Americas Frontline Drs (AFLD) too.
I don't know the jargon of pcp, but if preventative, yes. Doctors can prescribe for preventative. You can find doctors that will prescribe these meds with some internet searches. The next step is to find a pharmacy that will fill them. The doctor may be able to help, if not try to find a smaller "compounding" pharmacy, Ivermectin must be compounded, meaning it is not one size fits all and is measured and put in capsules by the pharmacy.
Tim said he really didnt want to take ivermectin or z pack cause he didnt want the media to say mean things about him. He constantly downplays ivermectin, says hes read the studies and doesnt believe it works cause the FDA didnt approve it. I like him for getting news but his opinions are getting hard to stand. He ass is still firmly planted on the fence.
It’s true. He’s very calculated in his stances on controversial issues. Notice that when he talks about ivermectin he’ll state that “some studies show it is effective. Some are inconclusive” and then proceeds to err on the side of “idk”.
Similarly, he takes every opportunity to state that he believes the vaccines are for the most part safe and effective, but if you read between the lines, he was very clearly not vaccinated.
I think he’s overall on the right side of things, but he’s so annoying.
The covid tests are bogus, are we sure this guy didn't just start overthinking the whole thing and gave himself a nocebo effect panic induced cold sweats and breathlessness? I mean were talking about TP here.
I can't remember, but didn't Tim once say he GOT the vax? And several other people on their team? I think Lydia didn't because it would affect her immune system horribly, and they knew that. Tim has been against forcing this vaccine but I swear I remember him saying that he GOT it. Someone know the answer?
That's so weird, I could have sworn he said once or twice that he had gotten it but that he was against others being forced to get it. Not sure which episode, and no way am I going back to watch them all.
Oh, I am so glad he didn't die from the covid! So the false-positive covid test that registers flu, and who knows what else as covid, now has merit because this douche got sick and felt bad? Fuck off, there is no way to even know who really had covid, it's been admitted over and over by multiple governments that there is no isolated sequence for covid-19. Anyone running around claiming they had covid because they got tested is a fucking idiot. This does nothing but strengthen those who need the idea of covid in order to retain and increase their control over the global population, to continue growing the new world order. Is it bad to take these medications? No. It is bad to feed the narrative that covid is a massive health threat that will kill us all. I took ivermectin and I feel better. Maybe he would have felt better anyway, but it's easier to frame it as a heroic battle with the evil deepstate virus that does not seem to even exist when you look at yearly death rates and flu counts.
both Tim Pool & Joe Rogan commented how they "threw everything at it" - I thought ivermectin alone would do it? if I get really harsh covid is the ivermectin I got my hands on not enough? I also have the various supplements (NAC, Zinc+vit D, turmeric, quercetin, black seed oil/black cumin seed, etc) but am I needing to try to get the other stuff too just in case? especially fo rmy elderly father if he somehow gets it?
How many more podcasters need to suffer before masses awaken?
🐸Lol👌
I thought the pool was closed though? (due to AIDS)
🚨Pool's Closed🚨
Now THAT'S an old meme. I just saw that on Internet Historian.
Feels like just yesterday, in the Habbo pool...
kek
That would explain how he was able to get MAB’s lmao. Us healthy plebs wouldn’t be able to get them, wouldn’t meet criteria.
Stingrays with AIDS
I bet you meant NAC instead of NAD (I haven't seen the vid) but NAD (or rather NAD+) is an interesting supplement that should be helpful for many with COVID symptoms -- and for older people and for anyone feeling low on energy. NAD+ is a coenzyme that, among other things, helps create ATP, the body's energy transport molecule. We make less of it as we get older.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nad%2B&t=osx&ia=web https://www.lifeextension.com/search#q=nad%2B&t=coveo4A2453FD
NAD (+) is best taken as a nasal spray, sublingually or intravenously as it has a low absorption rate orally. Good stuff!
Thanks, I'll look into that.
Great info thanks 👆🏼
Why would it not be NAC? It's been throughly studied and is included in many Covid protocols. To the degree that I understand that they are making it unavailable without prescription.
Try Vitamin Shoppe.
Very interesting for me. I am pretty sure I have mitochondrial dysfunction as my energy just isn't there BUT by using a LARGE Infra Red light I get most of it back. So that deduces to my Mitochondria (as diet is fine, tested, experimented on, etc.) I will pick some NAD+ up. BTW - I think my MD was stress induced and just never came back.
Open to any other ideas for potential mitochondrial dysfunction. Thx again
Add B12 and B-15. Checkout L-Tyrosine too 👌🏻
NAD has really really helped me with energy. Thx
There are a number of things that have shown success at improving energy in people who feel fatigued all the time. LEF sells a number of them:
https://www.lifeextension.com/search#q=energy&t=coveo4A2453FD
These aren't like drugs (meth, for instance) that bring a jolt immediately so you'll need to take them for a few weeks in many cases to notice a difference. Most of these are good for overall health and vitality especially in older people, whose bodies are producing less and less CoQ10 and other important substances.
I started taking acetyl-l-carnitine and other forms of Carnitine plus Alpha-lipoic acid (or better still, R-Lipoic acid) years ago after reading that a patent had been issued for the combination of those two supplements based largely on studies (mostly of dogs) showing it made older animals look and behave like younger animals.
Very interesting re that dog study.
I'm pretty familiar with CoQ10 (and I believe I took a stronger form, forget the name) and take it now. Stopped the carnatine a few months back. I take PQQ, MitoQ, etc. I have seen no noticeable change from taking them. But if I stop the red light, my vision deteriorates, my energy goes down a lot, my body pain comes back, and on. And even though I have energy now, I have much much lower stamina. Anyway, I'll try someone from LE once the supply I have (which includes many of the same stuff) is less.
I'll make sure to get the combination right though!
But all the great replies to me really give me some direction and dare I say, hope.
How does the light help you get it back? Do you have a link to a description of the device?
Cytochrome C oxidase which is the 4th cytochrome, has 4 red light chromophores. So Therapeutic frequencies of red and near infrared light, which penetrate deeper than other parts of the light spectrum, cause the ATPase (fith cytochrome) to spin faster which means more ATP production for a cell even when electron tunneling and/or proton recylcing programs are broken for other reasons.
and as far as consumer level red light products that actually work in the advertized frequencies and eliminated other issues with fake light exposure, this is the product that dominates the industry right now
https://emr-tek.com/
If you live/work behind windows/glass, you have subtracted or diminished key solar frequenices we are adapted to live under, being chronically red light and UV light deficient are a big issue for humans (and pets). For myself when I can't get out in the Arizona sun I use a Firewave from that company, and combine it with UVA / UVB bulbs for indoors. It doesn't replace the sun, but it's better than only soaking in blue light dominant screens and LEDs much of the day.
Here is an intro. https://www.cnet.com/health/personal-care/curious-about-joovv-get-the-lowdown-on-red-light-therapy-first/ But for why it works, well for mitochondrial dysfunction it literally generates energy in the cells. If your energy level is fine or not low from MD, then you will only notice a small amount (Pro athletes use if for that 5% boost.) For me it is like 50% more. Which one ? Something like this; https://joovv.com/products/joovv-solo-3-0 But there are at least 5+ great manufacturers. Have to read the latest literature.
This forum thread is overall about experimenting with nicotine gum for mitochondiral function boost, and UV/IR light exposure, but read Jack's comments tying many things together they are key
https://forum.jackkruse.com/index.php?threads/nicotine-gum-biohack-ubi-17.15797/page-3
Very much appreciated! Will thoroughly go through this.
NAD+ in large amounts has also been shown to have anti ageing effects
Yes. A surprising number of supplements (fisetin, quercetin, glucosamine, etc) have shown life-extending properties, and health-extending properties as well, meaning not only will you probably live a few years longer but will be having a better quality of life in old age.
No, we got NAD+, not NAC.
Ah. Great stuff and I'd certainly take that if I had COVID (I take it regularly, actually). NAC would be good also.
Tim Pool gets COVID, gets bad, takes Ivermectin gets better in hours
Tim Pool "Does Ivermectin work? Maybe. Maybe not. Who knows?"
He is the eternal fence sitter.
I guess that’s what being neutral looks like. Fuck beige. Btw did he mention if he got the clot shot?
As a long time listener/ viewer of his podcast and shows, I heard Tim mention several months back that he wasn't interested in getting the shot; citing that he was healthy. Don't know if that had changed since then.
I agree, he’s annoying like that, but he claims he only took the ivermectin after he was already starting to feel a lot better after taking the monoclonal antibodies and others. He claims it was only after his doctor insisted that he finish the full kitchen sink treatment that he took the ivm and zpack.
😂😂 He is! 😂 That’s why I have never been a fan❗️😂
He ❤️‘s to fence sit while everyone else takes bullets in the fight.
Then, he comes out when it’s all safe.🐸
Not to mention, how did he test positive for COVID?‼️
We all know that test is crap❗️It could have been anything❗️The freakin’ flu, rhinovirus, walking pneumonia, who knows? As long as people keep saying Covid, the lie stays alive and confuses the masses.
"I believe it was the monoclonal antibodies is what did the trick" fucking Tim being Tim as usual! What did it was the Ivermectin. People have had the CCP flu, took Ivermectin, and have gotten better within hours and that's been proven in many cases. I'm not disparaging the antibodies, Zpac, or any of the other stuff he got which I have no doubt supported the Ivermectin but Ivermectin is the key. The paste is the SAME as the pill so don't let people tell you it's not. Get a stock pile of the paste ASAP for the winter because you or someone in your family might need it.
he specifically explains that he got better before taking Ivermectin because he distrusts it and when he was already feeling well the doctor insisted that he should take it in case of resurgence of the illness.
Apparently he was feeling better before even taking the ivermectin. Luckily whichever doctor he found recommended him to take the Ivermectin anyway once he started feeling better to make sure the symptoms didn't return.
I like to rag on Tim but I don't see any reason for him to have made up the timeline. So I'm sure he got better without the Ivermectin first but likely stayed better because of IVM
NAD+ is a very good thing. But it's mostly used in older patients that get CCP flu but hey if the "kitchen sink protocol" calls for it then why not!
https://www.nmn.com/news/nad-levels-immune-response-covid-19
Pretty sure the whole thing is a setup to get CNN to defame him so he can sue.
Grifters gonna grift. I think he saw how much attention Rogan got and wanted some of that action. And you are correct, a defamation lawsuit would be icing on the cake.
THIS
even CNN Is not stupid enough to fall for this and he was very thorough in his video about how it was all prescribed by a doctor
My daughter’s fiancé is a long distance truck driver & she rides with him. Well you know it’s hard for them to eat healthy meals on the road every day for months at at time. So they are home visiting & taking a break for a bit, and her stomach (and his also) has been bothering her since before they got home, and she’s taken a few different meds for it & none worked for her. I told her how some people (here on the forum) said that ivermectin helped their intestinal issues, so I said if you want some (paste form) in yogurt let me know. So 2 days ago she said “mom fix me up some yogurt.” So I did, within maybe 2 hours she said her stomach was feeling totally better, and has been good since. This morning she said fix up some yogurt for her boyfriend, so I did, he chugged it down. We shall see how he feels in a few hours.
That's great news...
Tell them to check theit shit for worms.
Ha! I didn't want to freak them out, lol, but I thought about it. I figured if they saw something unusual they would say something. Daughter's finace said it made his stomach better too within probably 2 hours or so, no more pain. Hubby & I bet it's from food they eat on the road, because their stomachs weren't feeling good when they came home.
So be famous, have a lot of money, and theres a good chance youll survive an extreme bout of covid. I wonder if Tim was exaggerating his case for clicks?
Meanwhile everyone I know who's had it quietly toughed it out at home for a week or so.
Yeah, i detest that midget
I corrected my comment lol
If you choose to get the monoclonal antibody treatment, you may want to quarantine longer.
There’s been a few studies now that show the antibody cocktail prolongs viral shedding and may keep you from building antibodies to the virus.
monoclonap antibodies work. I disnt have ivermectin, but took hcq, azitheomycin.
Any of you that hasnt had covid, get your script for ivermectin and or hcq now. Once you get covid it takes too damn long to get these meds. Get them now, get an appt and say you want these for future sickness. That is what I did with hcq and azithromycin.
Patriotic L Can we get the prescriptions with our PCP? I thought we didn’t. I have an appointment coming up and I really want those meds in my cabinet.
Totally depends on your Dr AND your Pharmacist. Get the horse paste it's 💯 %. If you neigh won't get the horse paste, there's online pharmacies where you can get the pills. Checkout Americas Frontline Drs (AFLD) too.
I don't know the jargon of pcp, but if preventative, yes. Doctors can prescribe for preventative. You can find doctors that will prescribe these meds with some internet searches. The next step is to find a pharmacy that will fill them. The doctor may be able to help, if not try to find a smaller "compounding" pharmacy, Ivermectin must be compounded, meaning it is not one size fits all and is measured and put in capsules by the pharmacy.
I got mine through American Frontline doctors.
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/covid/early-treatment/
Once you get a consult make sure to ask for treatment dosages, not prophylaxis dosages
This bald headed fuck is just jumping on the band wagon. Probably was never sick.
Well good on him. I still can't stand him.
Tim said he really didnt want to take ivermectin or z pack cause he didnt want the media to say mean things about him. He constantly downplays ivermectin, says hes read the studies and doesnt believe it works cause the FDA didnt approve it. I like him for getting news but his opinions are getting hard to stand. He ass is still firmly planted on the fence.
It’s true. He’s very calculated in his stances on controversial issues. Notice that when he talks about ivermectin he’ll state that “some studies show it is effective. Some are inconclusive” and then proceeds to err on the side of “idk”.
Similarly, he takes every opportunity to state that he believes the vaccines are for the most part safe and effective, but if you read between the lines, he was very clearly not vaccinated.
I think he’s overall on the right side of things, but he’s so annoying.
he is not very sly at hiding that he wants to keep his Youtube revenue stream
I agree, but I have to add that his opinions have been hard to stand since the election.
He said he felt better before he ever took IVM and didnt want IVM but doctors made him. He says Monoclomal things were what did it. Who knows.
Tim Pool is a fag. He wouldn't dare touch the election fraud and I'm sure still believes that the steal didn't happen.
The covid tests are bogus, are we sure this guy didn't just start overthinking the whole thing and gave himself a nocebo effect panic induced cold sweats and breathlessness? I mean were talking about TP here.
I think he's utterly pathetic and don't know WHY anyone (especially here) would even click on his tripe.
Thank you all for your kind help. Love this place. God Bless you all.
He is a clown.
With a beanie
He wears womens undergarments...PROVE ME WRONG 😂
Honestly, wouldn’t care if he actually died. He’s a Fuckn fence sitting grifter
He's a click baiting twat so I doubt he had anything.
I can't remember, but didn't Tim once say he GOT the vax? And several other people on their team? I think Lydia didn't because it would affect her immune system horribly, and they knew that. Tim has been against forcing this vaccine but I swear I remember him saying that he GOT it. Someone know the answer?
I don't think a lot of people on this forum watch Tim, tbh.
I do, lol, but I can't remember if he said he got the vax or not.
I heard him say he wasn't interested in getting it, but that was several months back.
That's so weird, I could have sworn he said once or twice that he had gotten it but that he was against others being forced to get it. Not sure which episode, and no way am I going back to watch them all.
I'd have to watch Tim Pool so I'll probably never know first hand.
Did he get the jab?
Is his immune system compromised is he vaxxed?
What makes me laugh is how he says it's not some big conspiracy when referring to the push against ivermectin
Oh, I am so glad he didn't die from the covid! So the false-positive covid test that registers flu, and who knows what else as covid, now has merit because this douche got sick and felt bad? Fuck off, there is no way to even know who really had covid, it's been admitted over and over by multiple governments that there is no isolated sequence for covid-19. Anyone running around claiming they had covid because they got tested is a fucking idiot. This does nothing but strengthen those who need the idea of covid in order to retain and increase their control over the global population, to continue growing the new world order. Is it bad to take these medications? No. It is bad to feed the narrative that covid is a massive health threat that will kill us all. I took ivermectin and I feel better. Maybe he would have felt better anyway, but it's easier to frame it as a heroic battle with the evil deepstate virus that does not seem to even exist when you look at yearly death rates and flu counts.
DID HE GET THE JAB?
both Tim Pool & Joe Rogan commented how they "threw everything at it" - I thought ivermectin alone would do it? if I get really harsh covid is the ivermectin I got my hands on not enough? I also have the various supplements (NAC, Zinc+vit D, turmeric, quercetin, black seed oil/black cumin seed, etc) but am I needing to try to get the other stuff too just in case? especially fo rmy elderly father if he somehow gets it?
Imagine that!
This i the NPC man, be like him