John E. Hoover has done extensive research into the Vegas shooting. He's shown at least 3-4 helicopters in the air at the time of the shooting that were unidentified.
I don't know what videos of his are still on YT, but he has a Patreon with loads of videos on it as well.
Just in case some do not know, typically a helicopter will have "Nav lights" which are Red on the port side and green on the starboard, these help other aircrews to understand which way the aircraft is moving. "Position lights"
It will also have a landing light, pretty much a spotlight which illuminates the area in front of the aircraft to aid landing.
It will also have a tail light, or "position light". This with the nav lights helps the aircrew understand the movement of other helo's in a 3d space.
It will also have and anti collision strobe, sometimes mounted on the tail or sometimes underneath, this will be either red or white (occasionally both, half and half) and "flash" or "strobe" in a repeated timed pattern. This pattern doesn't change in timing. Remember this is helicopter, airliners will have wing tip strobes and in other places which will go out of pattern.
I saw a lot of video's of the LV shooting, and I'm certain we are not seeing an anti collision strobe, what you see here are muzzle flashes from weapons imo.
There was a video going around a few years ago where someone had taken a look at the helicopter movements around the area from some sort of radar footage.
There were several interesting things that were not normal, but the big one was a "helicopter" on radar (because it moved like one, hovered, etc.) that had a call sign of a commercial jet (Southwest, I think). So, it came in from the east, sporting the call sign of a commercial jet, and then hovered right around the back of the Mandalay Bay/Luxor, and then the call sign shut off.
Yes I saw some of them video's on the Southwest aircraft.
Which would have to mean that someone in ATC was in on it, the helicopter(s) would have normally had to squawk a 4 digit number on the transponder being inside controlled airspace!
Yep…avionics engineer here; concur with all except one change. Strobes always white, the red flashing light that’s seen (always on bottom) rotates to appear as a flash. The red rotating light is called a “Beacon” light. Everything else spot-on. 👍🏽 Updooted to ‘17’ wooot.
Hi, I worded it slightly like that as a couple of aircraft I flew had a split red/white, albeit in a different country to the USA. I tried to cover most bases.
I remember watching quite a few videos from a guy who was heavily invested in trying to work out what exactly had gone on in the LV shooting, and one video (not this one) clearly had a couple of helicopters that were lights out and muzzle flashes coming from them. Some where trying to argue that it was the anti col but clearly it wasn't. Thanks for the input.
This has been a working theory of mine for quite a while. After seeing many of the independent videos people took who were there on the scene, you'd notice there was one or more helicopters flying around in the sky. It was assumed they were either police helicopters or sight-seeing tourists flying around the strip.
As many reports of gunshots came in from various locations - some at opposite ends of the strip - the assumption of multiple shooters was formed
But where were these shooters? No one saw them or the source of the bullets.
Police scanners had police on the ground reporting multiple locations of shots incoming.
But, soon the F_B_LIE got involved and we were told ONE, count 'em ONE man was responsible for all of it. It never made sense. I and many others entertained the helicopter theory but had no real proof.
Q had dropped a lot of crumbs about LV shooting. The top floors of the Mandalay is owned by Alwaleed-bin-Talal and Bill Gates. Crown Prince MBS was visiting and tt was an assassination attempt since he is a Trump ally. There is also a possibility Trump was supposed to be there as well.
When the assassination attempt failed, they didnt want to blow their cover, so they pretended to be crazy gunman - well cops covered up and made it a single gunman.
No, there was much more than that - remember all the arrests that were made of VIPs and they were all held in a fancy hotel for awhile? Some executions too, IIRC.
I remember seeing a video of a helicopter landing in a parking lot with para military type dressed individuals climbing in it armed with automatic weapons taken on the night of the Las Vegas shooting. I might have to see if I was aware enough at the time to archive offline on that one as I was unaware of Q until May 2018.
It was just before dusk in the video. For it to have been a response team, they would've had to of known about the "attack" before it happened. The only other alternative is said chopper being involved in the "attack" in a negative context.
This is correct on all counts. I’m also puzzled as to why the principal was not in the center of the formation for maximum protection. Stretcher guy is in the position of honor.
Don’t forget. The FBI canvased the whole concert collecting shells, rounds and patching bullet holes in the ground. They didn’t want you to figure out the trajectory.
I have to contribute….I know someone who was working on the floor of Mandalay on the night of the shooting and he claims 100% he heard gun shots on the floor of the casino. Later I met a coworker of his who was also there that night. She about started crying and seemed reluctant to admit it, she also confirmed that there definitely was gun fire on the casino floor that night. There’s way more to this story than they are telling us. I stayed up all night on the night of the shooting watching internet videos as they were posted in real time. To this day almost all of them have been scrubbed from the internet.
same, knew someone who works at luxor, said several agents around that night and cars were being checked for bombs. said place was swarmed with agents all over. interesting
Right - I followed this story like crazy back in the day too - all the good videos have been pulled. The cabbie video clearly showed shots being fired from the 4th floor window and there were MANY eye-witness accounts of shots fired at the ground level.
Looking at the evidence they presented (MSM) it was so full of holes you could fly a helicopter through it.... First there was a video of them locking down the morgue. Then there was a video of them in the room the shooting supposedly took place, and no open window or broken window was in the video. Then there was the reporting of the equipment missing from the floor. ( a sat phone comes to mind) Also it seems like the guy they said did it was A known gun runner for a specific three letter agency. Stars with C. It appears the Fed scrubbed the info and made him a scape goat, because they failed to figure out this before hand. The agencies were played, and made to look bad, they can't have public confidence in the Feds drop, or let it be known that C agents were operating on US soil. There were rumored reports that a certain person was landing at the airport, and that they tried to take him out and failed. There were attacks on the oil tanks near the airport and they did not explode. It seems like it was an op that went sideways and they all got played, and to save face they blamed it on the C agent. He was dead so they could do that and no one would be able to investigate further, that was not 'in the loop'. The officers that were making statements were being fed what to say, since if it was a hit on a Saudi on us soil it would be a diplomatic and national security issue.
I'm not trying to kill your story, this post is merely my experience.
In 2015 I stayed at the four seasons in Vegas, a floor below where the shooting happened and a few rooms to the south. The room faced the airport so for a few days I noticed nonstop tourist helicopters coming and going, my guess is the heli pad is right on the edge of the airport and these videos show that same traffic
Trump was in Vegas that night. It was a hit on him and Bin Salman that went bad. Look into who owns the top floor at the Mandalay Bay. Remember what happened in SA shortly afterwards? I saw multiple videos that proved there were shooters everywhere that night. Helicopters, up and down the strip, snipers on top of buildings next to the concert. Pretty much everywhere except the hotel room where they pinned the whole thing on Paddock in about 2 hours. Anyone seen the dude that went on Ellen recently?
Sarcasm is basically lying and it's not easily discerned over text without some additional text to signify the statement is false like "/s" or eyeroll emoji.
NO NO NO! Get the FUCK out of here with this bullshit, you mother fuckers. This is the worst footage of this I've ever seen. I saw way better footage of this after it happened, and this helicopter bullshit was totally debunked. DON"T FALL FOR THIS PEDES, I'm telling you.
We are a bunch of patriots here. We don't presume to always get it right. Please refrain from calling us MF'er's and screaming at us. You can do better.
I'm Sorry, very sorry. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just being very passionate, because I believe that there are DISINFO agents out there trying to get us to believe the most boneheaded conspiracies, to discredit everything else we're doing, and to divide us, and to make us look stupid.
I remember the cab footage showing a shooter on the 4th floor...can't find that video anywhere now I don't think. Also there was OTHER footage I recall that showed helicopters overhead. Also I recall their being a heliopad or something that was mentioned as possible escape route for shooters.
Also remember there was that couple that said "you're all gonna die!" beforehand?
And then all those who were injured and survived, and they had like a FB group where they were providing their own accounts of what happened and started putting pieces together...then they started "dying" in very strange ways? Like the couple who were in that blazing fire of a car crash, and the dude who supposedly went into his backyard and killed his daughter before blowing his brains out...and the girl who supposedly died in her sleep?
You know, our military, Q, whoever is involved in this shit show, should have blown the fuck out of this bastard. Unless they were in on it. Letting it happen? Bullshit.
This helicopter bullshit was totally debunked, and there was much better footage.
Now this shit low quality version resurfaces, and people falling for this garbage.
Debunk it yourself dude, it's not hard. Do you really think that a crack team of black operators executed this flawless plan to fire down on a crown of people from a helicopter, but then decided NOT to use a flash suppressor, so everyone could see and record the flashes, does that make any sense to you?
Does it make any sense at all that they would actually use a helicopter when they didn't need to? So that anyone could look up and see it, record, track it? Just think about it, does it make any sense?
Finally!
I thought this was erased from the web. Haven't seen this video in years. Glad someone archivd it
cough cough
https://www.youtube.com/c/LasVegasShootingArchive/videos
wow if youre an archivist heres another video to a channel that followed the vegas event he has many more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOqLO5cL7Bg
John E. Hoover has done extensive research into the Vegas shooting. He's shown at least 3-4 helicopters in the air at the time of the shooting that were unidentified.
I don't know what videos of his are still on YT, but he has a Patreon with loads of videos on it as well.
I hope someone has offline copies. Not sure how long they will last on YT
Archived down below 👇🏼
several witness accounts reported the same thing.
And the witnesses were killed in the coverup. A couple near me who came forth as witnesses were killed in a car “accident.”
Just like the witnesses who came forward to tell the truth about the Oklahoma Federal building were killed / silenced.
Just like the witnesses on the grassy knoll with JFK.
And the Georgia B I investigator who suddenly died while investigating Kemp’s daughter’s vaporized boyfriend.
And the cop who suicided.
I remember that - their car went up in like crazy flames while they were not far from their home! Screamed of a hit to me.
https://gizadeathstar.com/2017/10/jfk-template-redevivus-first-contrarian-vegas-narrative-witness-dies/
Video showing photo of shooter with "girlfriend" was fake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHtmN-vM_1Y
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-five-things-that-just-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html
https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-04-breaking-law-enforcement-says-las-vegas-shooter-did-not-act-alone-new-details.html
I did some digging into some of the witnesses that Q mentioned in Post 92 - https://ibb.co/9yPv9jZ
Just in case some do not know, typically a helicopter will have "Nav lights" which are Red on the port side and green on the starboard, these help other aircrews to understand which way the aircraft is moving. "Position lights"
It will also have a landing light, pretty much a spotlight which illuminates the area in front of the aircraft to aid landing.
It will also have a tail light, or "position light". This with the nav lights helps the aircrew understand the movement of other helo's in a 3d space.
It will also have and anti collision strobe, sometimes mounted on the tail or sometimes underneath, this will be either red or white (occasionally both, half and half) and "flash" or "strobe" in a repeated timed pattern. This pattern doesn't change in timing. Remember this is helicopter, airliners will have wing tip strobes and in other places which will go out of pattern.
I saw a lot of video's of the LV shooting, and I'm certain we are not seeing an anti collision strobe, what you see here are muzzle flashes from weapons imo.
There was a video going around a few years ago where someone had taken a look at the helicopter movements around the area from some sort of radar footage.
There were several interesting things that were not normal, but the big one was a "helicopter" on radar (because it moved like one, hovered, etc.) that had a call sign of a commercial jet (Southwest, I think). So, it came in from the east, sporting the call sign of a commercial jet, and then hovered right around the back of the Mandalay Bay/Luxor, and then the call sign shut off.
That does not happen without fuckery.
Yes I saw some of them video's on the Southwest aircraft.
Which would have to mean that someone in ATC was in on it, the helicopter(s) would have normally had to squawk a 4 digit number on the transponder being inside controlled airspace!
Yep…avionics engineer here; concur with all except one change. Strobes always white, the red flashing light that’s seen (always on bottom) rotates to appear as a flash. The red rotating light is called a “Beacon” light. Everything else spot-on. 👍🏽 Updooted to ‘17’ wooot.
Hi, I worded it slightly like that as a couple of aircraft I flew had a split red/white, albeit in a different country to the USA. I tried to cover most bases.
I remember watching quite a few videos from a guy who was heavily invested in trying to work out what exactly had gone on in the LV shooting, and one video (not this one) clearly had a couple of helicopters that were lights out and muzzle flashes coming from them. Some where trying to argue that it was the anti col but clearly it wasn't. Thanks for the input.
Wow! Would love to see more leaked vids. You did a perfect job actually 👍🏽
Was a door gunner for a time in the Navy before going EOD. I can tell you from experience, those are muzzle flashes.
Why the pilot(s) didn't turn off those running lights and go completely dark is beyond me, unless it wasn't us.
I have a very hard time believing out own military would open fire like that on innocent American civilians.
The FBI, ATF, DHS, or Clowns, on the other hand...
Al-Waleed, or +++ as Q puts it
This has been a working theory of mine for quite a while. After seeing many of the independent videos people took who were there on the scene, you'd notice there was one or more helicopters flying around in the sky. It was assumed they were either police helicopters or sight-seeing tourists flying around the strip.
As many reports of gunshots came in from various locations - some at opposite ends of the strip - the assumption of multiple shooters was formed
But where were these shooters? No one saw them or the source of the bullets. Police scanners had police on the ground reporting multiple locations of shots incoming.
But, soon the F_B_LIE got involved and we were told ONE, count 'em ONE man was responsible for all of it. It never made sense. I and many others entertained the helicopter theory but had no real proof.
This video sure seems to provide what we needed.
Thank you for bringing it here for us to see!
Q had dropped a lot of crumbs about LV shooting. The top floors of the Mandalay is owned by Alwaleed-bin-Talal and Bill Gates. Crown Prince MBS was visiting and tt was an assassination attempt since he is a Trump ally. There is also a possibility Trump was supposed to be there as well.
When the assassination attempt failed, they didnt want to blow their cover, so they pretended to be crazy gunman - well cops covered up and made it a single gunman.
And a month later a hellicopter crashes killing a prince and several officials in Saudi Arabia.... revenge for said attempt?
There was more dig into that, I dont remember if the consensus was whether it was a white op or a black op.
No, there was much more than that - remember all the arrests that were made of VIPs and they were all held in a fancy hotel for awhile? Some executions too, IIRC.
I remember seeing a video of a helicopter landing in a parking lot with para military type dressed individuals climbing in it armed with automatic weapons taken on the night of the Las Vegas shooting. I might have to see if I was aware enough at the time to archive offline on that one as I was unaware of Q until May 2018.
Yes, I remember this video as well.
It was just before dusk in the video. For it to have been a response team, they would've had to of known about the "attack" before it happened. The only other alternative is said chopper being involved in the "attack" in a negative context.
So the Prince’s security team walked him out of the Bellagio with their weapons. Where was he whisked away to?
https://youtu.be/Rd-qz6ei-UM - SWAT team enters Tropicana after Las Vegas Shooting
This is correct on all counts. I’m also puzzled as to why the principal was not in the center of the formation for maximum protection. Stretcher guy is in the position of honor.
I didn't title the video.
It's cool, we have been getting a lot of this shilly activity lately, over target, biggly.
Cheers!
All the really good footage of what happened has been pulled from YouTube. All that's left is there to support narrative of "lone gunman."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSyD72B5e68
I knew that was belt fed the first time I heard it.
No AR-15 on the planet has that cadence, bump stock be damned. They actually fire much faster than that pace.
Also remember hearing what sounded like overlapping fire, maybe even different calibers? The whole thing reeks of FF.
Saved as this will go away fast......
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Thanks!
Don’t forget. The FBI canvased the whole concert collecting shells, rounds and patching bullet holes in the ground. They didn’t want you to figure out the trajectory.
That’s right! Shells came from ABOVE…not from some hotel at a distance. Great observation as I recall same.
https://rumble.com/vd92ib-v-e-g-a-s.html
I have to contribute….I know someone who was working on the floor of Mandalay on the night of the shooting and he claims 100% he heard gun shots on the floor of the casino. Later I met a coworker of his who was also there that night. She about started crying and seemed reluctant to admit it, she also confirmed that there definitely was gun fire on the casino floor that night. There’s way more to this story than they are telling us. I stayed up all night on the night of the shooting watching internet videos as they were posted in real time. To this day almost all of them have been scrubbed from the internet.
same, knew someone who works at luxor, said several agents around that night and cars were being checked for bombs. said place was swarmed with agents all over. interesting
I regret not archiving all of them. Hopefully someone else did.
Right - I followed this story like crazy back in the day too - all the good videos have been pulled. The cabbie video clearly showed shots being fired from the 4th floor window and there were MANY eye-witness accounts of shots fired at the ground level.
Vegas Shooting Anniversary Special New Eyewitness = MAJOR BREAK !!! Complete Documentary - https://files.catbox.moe/7obv4c.mp4
Contains a lot of discussion and footage of the helicopters.
Timing of this is resurfacing now is really interesting.
Looking at the evidence they presented (MSM) it was so full of holes you could fly a helicopter through it.... First there was a video of them locking down the morgue. Then there was a video of them in the room the shooting supposedly took place, and no open window or broken window was in the video. Then there was the reporting of the equipment missing from the floor. ( a sat phone comes to mind) Also it seems like the guy they said did it was A known gun runner for a specific three letter agency. Stars with C. It appears the Fed scrubbed the info and made him a scape goat, because they failed to figure out this before hand. The agencies were played, and made to look bad, they can't have public confidence in the Feds drop, or let it be known that C agents were operating on US soil. There were rumored reports that a certain person was landing at the airport, and that they tried to take him out and failed. There were attacks on the oil tanks near the airport and they did not explode. It seems like it was an op that went sideways and they all got played, and to save face they blamed it on the C agent. He was dead so they could do that and no one would be able to investigate further, that was not 'in the loop'. The officers that were making statements were being fed what to say, since if it was a hit on a Saudi on us soil it would be a diplomatic and national security issue.
I'm not trying to kill your story, this post is merely my experience.
In 2015 I stayed at the four seasons in Vegas, a floor below where the shooting happened and a few rooms to the south. The room faced the airport so for a few days I noticed nonstop tourist helicopters coming and going, my guess is the heli pad is right on the edge of the airport and these videos show that same traffic
Did it start shooting automatic weapons too? WTF are you talking about dude
Those are navigation lights and photography flashes
...Are you even using your eyes right now bro??
Trump was in Vegas that night. It was a hit on him and Bin Salman that went bad. Look into who owns the top floor at the Mandalay Bay. Remember what happened in SA shortly afterwards? I saw multiple videos that proved there were shooters everywhere that night. Helicopters, up and down the strip, snipers on top of buildings next to the concert. Pretty much everywhere except the hotel room where they pinned the whole thing on Paddock in about 2 hours. Anyone seen the dude that went on Ellen recently?
That footage is not unseen. I saw it right after the massacre it was posted everywhere.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211214003408/https://twitter.com/KoodyCoo/status/1470399290703069185?t=AiUyXPjeinimSdGVxpLOyw&s=19
Archived
https://web.archive.org/web/20211214003408/https://twitter.com/KoodyCoo/status/1470399290703069185?t=AiUyXPjeinimSdGVxpLOyw&s=19
Archived
I thought muzzle fire was only used in movies?
For fucks sake, fire a damn gun in your life.
It was sarcasm
You dropped this "/s"
I usually don't use it when I think it's obvious
I have to get better
Sarcasm is basically lying and it's not easily discerned over text without some additional text to signify the statement is false like "/s" or eyeroll emoji.
Forego sarcasm and simply state the truth, imo.
I was sarcastically making fun of people who say that. And that IS the truth.
There is plenty of room for sarcasm my friend.
No, there isn't.
ARRRRRG, Matey's, there be a sarchasm here, speak clearly! 😁
Or don’t close your eyes when you shoot lol
Except at night when the real deal lights up the skies.
Guns make muzzle flashes.
Did anyone go and look at the air traffic data for that day to see if those helicopters showed up?
NO NO NO! Get the FUCK out of here with this bullshit, you mother fuckers. This is the worst footage of this I've ever seen. I saw way better footage of this after it happened, and this helicopter bullshit was totally debunked. DON"T FALL FOR THIS PEDES, I'm telling you.
We are a bunch of patriots here. We don't presume to always get it right. Please refrain from calling us MF'er's and screaming at us. You can do better.
I'm Sorry, very sorry. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just being very passionate, because I believe that there are DISINFO agents out there trying to get us to believe the most boneheaded conspiracies, to discredit everything else we're doing, and to divide us, and to make us look stupid.
I remember the cab footage showing a shooter on the 4th floor...can't find that video anywhere now I don't think. Also there was OTHER footage I recall that showed helicopters overhead. Also I recall their being a heliopad or something that was mentioned as possible escape route for shooters.
Also remember there was that couple that said "you're all gonna die!" beforehand?
And then all those who were injured and survived, and they had like a FB group where they were providing their own accounts of what happened and started putting pieces together...then they started "dying" in very strange ways? Like the couple who were in that blazing fire of a car crash, and the dude who supposedly went into his backyard and killed his daughter before blowing his brains out...and the girl who supposedly died in her sleep?
There was SO MUCH weirdness around this story.
Very sad but why am I not more surprised about my government’s involvement?
I call bullshit. And I live in Vegas.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211214003408/https://twitter.com/KoodyCoo/status/1470399290703069185?t=AiUyXPjeinimSdGVxpLOyw&s=19
Archived
Who's military was flying the choppers? Saudi Arabia?
You know, our military, Q, whoever is involved in this shit show, should have blown the fuck out of this bastard. Unless they were in on it. Letting it happen? Bullshit.
My thoughts; how long will it stay-on Twatter?
terrible quick cut low res video, we know what happened.
over target
u/#checked
This helicopter bullshit was totally debunked, and there was much better footage.
Now this shit low quality version resurfaces, and people falling for this garbage.
Where was it debunked?
Debunk it yourself dude, it's not hard. Do you really think that a crack team of black operators executed this flawless plan to fire down on a crown of people from a helicopter, but then decided NOT to use a flash suppressor, so everyone could see and record the flashes, does that make any sense to you?
Does it make any sense at all that they would actually use a helicopter when they didn't need to? So that anyone could look up and see it, record, track it? Just think about it, does it make any sense?
I don't know. Do you really think Federal agencies could be running a pedo ring under our noses?
You can hear it in other footage