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🇮🇹 Italy: After a death due to covid vaccination is proven by autopsy, the heirs claim damages according to Law 210/92, to which the Ministry responds as follows: Claim not accepted because vaccination is not legally mandated... (twitter.com)
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– bubble_bursts 58 points 4 years ago +58 / -0

Ohhh .. playing with words eh. Dont you worry, the fact they oushed a poisonous toxin misrepresented as vaccines would be good enough. Let the flood gates open.

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– ItsAFreeCountry 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I know you meant to say "rushed" but I actually like "oushed" better

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– Wtf_socialismreally 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Guaranteed they meant to say "pushed". R>o is not a typo that can be made on qwerty without some intentional behavior on the part of the user, being as they're on opposite sides of the board.

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– filthycasul 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I think you'd be surprised by some of the typos I've seen (and made) lmao

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– ItsAFreeCountry 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You are a true autist!

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– Callmejuls 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Mass arrests and tribunals already!!!

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– Vapourface 56 points 4 years ago +56 / -0

Absolutely 100% they are going to turn around and tell people "Nobody forced you to take it"

And they are correct, I have not seen a single case of anyone being physically forced... Everything else, yes, literal psychological warfare levels of coercion, true, but not actual force. It will be a BITTER BITTER pill for so many people. Not that I am crowing - my life is severely restricted because they would have to force me physically, kicking and gouging all the way.

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– BigMikey 31 points 4 years ago +31 / -0

They will have to kill me up front. I'll take a few down with me. I'd rather die quickly, by a bullet then by starvation or a slow death by poison. I'd rather die with my honor intact.

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– Th4rd_R3ich 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Name checks out

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– NoApologyTour 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Well, nobody was physically forced. But in Europe they are being shut out of grocery stores, work and everything else. That is definitely coercion.

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– lbrt 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Grocery not that I have heard of.

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– djmarcone 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I think I saw some mentally challenged people being tackled and force jabbed

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– Callmejuls 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And some children

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– deleted 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0
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– FiveDogs 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I have Banner, zero on website about vaccine deaths, so I called….

Susan:”Oh, yes that is a rumor we are not paying, but we are paying.”

Me: “Awesome, will you send me a letter stating that?”

Susan:”No, we are not putting that in writing.”

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– deleted 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0
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– Callmejuls 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Well, hows about we restart that campaign.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– Cloe123 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

Here in the U.S., a mandate is not a law. Ask your employer if they are going to pay up when you sue for damages and/or death from a shot that is experimental and has caused more deaths and side effects in one year than all vaccines in 20 years combined. Ask how much they are being paid by the government to mandate their employees take the Covid shot or what they have been promised in return (tax breaks, money, ambassadorships, etc.). Congress makes laws, but I do not think they could make a law for something that is EUA and for which safety has not been proved. Big Pharma has not addressed the deaths and adverse reactions at all, and indeed has suppressed them and what they knew during the trials regarding injuries and deaths. Congress must vote now to take away legal protection against lawsuits due to injuries from medications, vaccines and products from their companies. The data being suppressed for 75 years re. Covid shots must be released now with full disclosure of contents, design, purpose.

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– OneOff 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I agree with your comment. Some companies may be getting incentives. But I know my company is afraid of being fined, I assume by OSHA.

It is obvious the majority of us will not comply. There have been meetings where HR strongly encourages it, they even offered a couple hundred dollars to take it.

Then they went on to say that they are holding out as long as they can, and us clean bloods will have to wear masks. Which noone does, unless HR stumbles around. Ironically the only people who wear masks around others are the ones who are poisoned, for the most part.

They have said that we have to do tests, but the tests cost so much per test and ultimately they have to do what is right for the company.

Made me think that they are threatening to make us pay for the tests, if the costs reach a certain level. They have only tested people who are sick, they haven't mass tested everyone every week, like they threaten.

So far you can tell they are hesitant. I know they know they are outnumbered. If they get rid of us, they won't have a work force really

But my point is, they just want it all to go away as well. They are more afraid of getting in trouble, as opposed to getting incentives themselves to get everyone poisoned.

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– yudsfpbc 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It is obvious the majority of us will not comply.

I hear stories of people saying "Our company is 100% vaxxed" and I can't help but think it is all lies. I 100% doubt every poll ever published in the last 50 years, and I am certain that the data that says X number of people in the US got vaxxed is a complete fraud.

I would not be surprised to hear that a lot of people who died from Covid were really cops or health care workers who got shot for trying to force people to do things they shouldn't have been forcing people to do.

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– OneOff 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Oh yea. I don't believe any of the numbers thrown at me anymore. I think they just pull them out of their ass to appear strong and to try and coerce who they can. That is why their intimidation is getting stronger. Because what they say is not working.

I have even started to question the whole 8 billion people thing. I mean, they lie about everything, why would that be the truth?

For your second point, I know they were counting pretty much whatever they wanted as a "covid death." Cancer, heart attacks, motorcycle accidents, etc. That's why when you look at the data there was no rise in global death rates during this "super scary scamdemic." Sorry I don't have sauce for that. I have seen it several times though.

I also know that if they bust down my door and try to hold me down to inject what I don't want in me, all of us are gonna die. I think they know that too, that's why they rely so much on psychological warfare and trying to isolate people from each other.

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– MajorMooncricket 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

no one at my company ever actually asked for proof of vaccination, although they also havent required it, just recommended. whatever list my company has is 100% fairy dust because people just lie.

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– Callmejuls 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Hope you don’t mind, I borrowed and shared your comment

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– Cloe123 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That is why the U.S. is still free! Help yourself!

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– Callmejuls 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Continue to fight them

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– Memeite 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

They can say that it was your choice all they fucking like there is a law that will fuck them on this Coercion!

Coercion means—(1) Threats of serious harm to or physical restraint against any person; (2) Any scheme, plan, or pattern intended to cause a person to believe that failure to perform an act would result in serious harm to or physical restraint against any person; or (3) The abuse or threatened abuse of the legal process.

Depending on where you live this can also include the denial of access to necessities (such as food, drinks, hospitals etc) it can also include denial of employment (unfair dismissal) or the use of fines and laws to force someone to act under duress.

There is no way that they can say it was a “free” choice without duress.

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– lovecymru 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Excellent point

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– Striker1 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Really interesting because I just read this—>Mandatory Vaxx in Italy 1/5

On Wednesday 5 January, the government led by Mario Draghi will impose the mandatory anti-Covid injection for all citizens aged 18 and over.

In addition to the mandatory vaccine, the executive will launch the super green pass in the workplace, making no distinction between the public and private sectors.

The news is reported by Affari Italiani.

At the same time as the obligation, any indemnities in the event of side effects related to the administration of the product against Covid will be better clarified. It will then be decided what the penalties will be for those who fail to comply with this obligation, using a model very similar to that of Austria, where fines of between 60 and 3600 euros are imposed for those who are no-vax.

A transitional period will also be granted for all those who have not yet received any vaccine dose to be regulated. With the go-ahead to the super green pass in the workplace, a lockdown will effectively occur for the unvaccinated, who will only be able to go to the hospital, pharmacy and supermarkets to do their shopping.

Bans and restrictions on no-vax visits to the homes of relatives and friends are also under consideration. Hard punch from Draghi and Roberto Speranza on the unvaxinated citizens.

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https://www.iltempo.it/attualita/2022/01/03/news/obbligo-vaccinale-5-gennaio-2022-sanzioni-da-quando-multe-super-green-pass-lavoro-no-vax-divieti-29975252/

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– deleted 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0
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– DEF_NOT_A_FED 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

In my mind, and I'm sure alot of other's here, Coertion is a force. There's more to "forcing" someone to do something, than holding them down and injecting them. "Mandating" places, that sell NECESSARY goods for your SURVIVAL, to require proof of compliance, is (by my understanding) forcing them to comply. It's not "free choice" if you lose something for not "making the right choice"

So to those commies forcing people, they are breaking laws and multiple sections of the Nuremberg code; I personally can't wait for the accountability to start making it's rounds!

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– HatePickingUserNames 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

So government is saying that they are not making you get the vaccine but you're not allowed in the grocery stores without the vaccine and you're not allowed to work to earn money for food without it as well. However, if you starve, it's not their fault.

This mirrors Soviet Union policy very closely. A lot of the people in Gulags weren't shot or executed, they died from starvation. Sometimes they would drop off Gulag prisoners onto the artic tundra and expected them to just survive in the cold with no food or shelter (doubtful they actually expected them to survive, likely they did not want to take responsibility for their deaths officially). Same for the famers where they stole all their food and left them with nothing. Their position was that they died of starvation through their own fault (in other words, that it was not the state's fault) or just outright ignored and suppressed the information. It is interesting that they are using the same exact playbook though not surprising at this point.

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– HangAllTheBankers 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

There is no viable suit. Nations leaders all signed deals with the devil. The manufacturers have no livability.

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– Enlightenment_Now 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The manufacturers have no livability

I'm guessing you meant liability, but I like that they have no livability better.

Please don't change it.

I might borrow that myself.

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– Europa 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I think the hardest thing will be the realization that you voluntarily stood in line to be poisoned.

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– Enlightenment_Now 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

And encouraged or even coerced your friends and family to get poisoned, too.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– LessSwampMoreMAGA 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

It’s not legally mandated…it’s illegally mandated

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– dildoschwaggins 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Always a way for these big companies and governments to avoid liability to their customers/the people that employ them. Enough is enough.

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– OneOff 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Enough is enough already! The double standards are glowing. It has gotten so outrageous.

How anyone can still be blind, that's on them now. It's obvious.

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– Kaizen 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Every day, the rope business is looking like a better prospect.

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– OldSchool2 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Impalement in the public square. Nothing short for their painful deaths will those who were harmed be able to move forward. The evil needs to be rooted out and made an example of for generations to come. Slow. Painful. Death.

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– Callmejuls 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Rope that can’t break??

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– ColludingWithAmerica 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Laws unevenly or selectively applied are not laws

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– 0romis 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

just wait tribunals will come and they will pay for this

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– Callmejuls 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Can’t wait!! We need to find the video clip of Nancy Pelosi saying “It’s just a little political theater” in the House regarding masks a year ago. Then share and blast her everywhere

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– welldamn 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

So gaslighting?

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– Cyberhawk 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Wow. Unbelievable. I’m almost speechless. How many more things do we need to be right about before people listen. Now it’s in black and white, again, will they start to see now? Lord have mercy.

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– AlgaeBanquet 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

BOOM! Here we GO FRENS! Game over for the DS. Scratch the surface, underneath it's all a scam and a bluff. WE counter it, call their bluff, we WIN!

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– 5547 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Nuremberg... unlawful to coerce lest they forget. File suit in international court.

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– Anon_69E0A63BD 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Oh they didn't forget fren. They simply spent the last 50 years (30 in earnest) working to make sure the people forget. That way, what we don't know can't interfere with their plans or hurt them.

The trouble is to get rid of the memory all together, they needed to purge the remaining people who remembered still. The purge had to remove enough of that group so that any remaining persons would be to few to be heard over the media noise barrage. I wonder if that also played a part in the reasons for making sure grandma died during the lockdowns.

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– OkieBowhunter 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They won't be able to walk down the street.

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– DiveAndBait 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

THAT'S what they're counting on, if you willingly took it it's on you.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Let me get this straight. Coercion and blackmail isn't even a consideration for this crime? As a comparison, suppose a government authority comes to your door and says to you -- "Take this small bag of heroin. If you don't take it, we will take your house and income from you." You are being coerced into taking the bag because you believe the government is the 'authority'. In addition, the government agent demands that you take the heroin and a government proxy must be there as a witness. As a result, the heroin is taken, but let's say it is your wife that overdoses and dies as a result?

Is it clear who is at fault here? I suppose it could be argued that heroin is illegal and the Clot shot is experimental. Indeed, this is a valid and important difference. However, my point rests on the fact that coercion and blackmail are crimes.

The immediate crime is coercion and blackmail. I see Fraud as part of the crime. Can the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) be used here?

In the United States, there are different laws than in Italy. There is a Vaxxine Mandate for government workers and contractors. However, there is not one for the 100+ employee companies despite widespread chatter stating there is a mandate. There is however, a Biden directive for OSHA to provide an Emergency Temporary Order (ETO) for OSHA to publish 'COVID' vaxxine guidelines for all 100+ employee companies. This is the 'workaround' the Biden Administration is attempting.

Lawsuits have to assure the proverbial cart is before the horse in order for success. I would think coercion and blackmail and even RICO is where to begin.

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– Toolbane 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Word games. Always word games! Changing definitions of words to suit their purposes, and make their lies truth.... Crazy times

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– MegoThor 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

"We didn't say you had to take it. We just said you couldn't work/travel/own property/live if you didn't."

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– purkiss80 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly..."It was your own choice" they will say.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– MisprisionIsEvil 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

We knew this was coming. Nobody made you take it.

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– colonial113 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ministry's got a nice logo I must say...

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– Callmejuls 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I have been searching for the clip of Nancy’s “it’s just a little political theater” comment ever since hearing it on Fox News and it seems to have vanished.

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– numina18 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's called having it both ways!! They win!!!

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– dook 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Blood for blood.

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– Azorca 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Released 1961. Catch-22. Read it and find out what we are living through.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's OK. The meaning of hanging won't change.

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