Fucking very well said. Ukrainian people have been getting fucked by there corrupt leaders and the world for a long time. Russia is not an invader but a liberator.
it sucks having an opinion on this that enrages friends and family... I can take the weird looks when someone finds out I monitor all the Q stuff. The fact that I think that Russia might have valid reasons for what they are doing is a verry unpopular opinion and one I hesitate even voicing because if I voice it other conservatives react to Russia and Putin like liberals that have trump derangement syndrome.
Everyone has been brainwashed for 50 years that Russia is enemy #1 and then it turns out NWO cabal set up basecamp right at their doorstep- almost like their deadmans switch was to start WW3 with a potentially innocent country if ever caught.
There having they're lunch over their. (I'm with you... I don't mind it so much in messages like this, but what I hate is seeing a clever meme with bad spelling or grammar as it loses its potency that way.)
I post stuff but never go back to read the comments or anything lol - hell I have never even checked my personal messages, I just post videos and opinions of my own and never look at any feedback
What I imagine is not being discussed on MSM is that (Theory) there is a new battle in the Eastern Orthodox-Catholic strife... the Catholics are fleeing to Catholic Poland while the Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians are welcoming the Liberators....The Muslims are likely lying low with the extremists looking for opportunities to procure weapons and nuclear material... Again this is Just Theory.
Well it’s true, sadly. Normies and sheep come in all races. My Ukrainian wife is based. However, I have to be careful what I say about the situation because she is more worried about her family in the middle of gunfire and explosions than her country’s politics atm. She’s not taking well to the Putin is a good guy angle.
This is how dangerous the media is and has been. How would most people even know that something was going on in any of those countries much less the truth about what it was? That's what needs a purge and accounting.
One of the gifts that Q has given us is awareness. Before the end of 2017, we all knew the world was in the grips of greedy bankers who'd infiltrated basically every aspect of society with control measures. Personally, I could see no way out of that situation, and it was depressing as hell.
I had no idea, though, how truly evil things were being done to Humans...and for a very long time. This darkness is ancient, and it couldn't be vanquished all in a flash of light. Bless all who've been working towards that glorious end.
I get your frustration, but honestly it would make my red pilling efforts so much harder if Trump took this position right now.
As it stands, I am able to use Trump as an anchor for bad media narrative to my more conservative friends.
For my liberal friends, I can use the fact that Putin didn’t invade under Trump to foil their “Russian puppet” crying.
But if Trump goes all in on backing Putin, then even my conservative friends will turn on Trump, and my red pilling efforts will be completely clouded up to them.
This is the right call for where we are right now, fren.
It makes Biden look worse right now plus look at how many normie conservatives already fell for it before he even spoke. Also it'll just stoke the "he's controlled by Putin" claims.
guys I may give you the impression that I am stupid but HOW CAN I SAVE THIS VIDEO? What is this fucking website ?
Click right doesnt give me shit and I want to save this cause this man is telling the truth, please just help me on this.
So Russia stirs the shit in Ukraine making them rebel... Ukraine puts down the rebellion or at least tries to, and we're supposed to cry tears for the rebels now?
That's the one part of this whole thing that bothers me. Everyone knows that the guys in charge before all the color revolution stuff were Putin stooges. Ukraine was Belarus now... it was a pseudo controlled sub-state of Russia and the Ukrainian people on the west side of Ukraine didn't want to be Russian.
I just went around in circle arguing with myself and it always comes back to two simple facts. #1 If you are Russian speaking and don't want to live in non-Russian Ukraine then move to fucking Russia. You have options. The Ukrainian speaking people in the west have nowhere to go and don't want to be fucking Russian.
#2 Assuming there isn't some Q/Trump/Putin plan to expose the cabal(which I'm not saying there is or isn't just for the sake of argument)... then Putin is using the Russian speaking people Stalin forced into Ukraine as an excuse for a land grab. The border was made and everyone agreed 30+ years ago. If they want to live in Russia they should move to freaking Russia. 99% of those people didn't live where they are only 2-3 generations ago.
This is all bullshit and smoke. If eastern Ukraine was a useless patch of desert Putin would be doing nothing. We all know it. Its valuable farm land and sea ports. So he's got to save the poor people Stalin moved there for exactly this reason. Damn the consequences. Like I said... bullshit.
Don't get me wrong the Ukrainian gov is corrupt as fuck blah blah blah... but the people for the most part are good people. They don't deserve the have Putin's boot on their neck. And they don't deserve to have their land stolen for the 500 time.
Guys, what am I missing here? This is pure Russian propaganda.
He sets the premise that he is "one of us", by the story of his childhood friend. The video suggests he is a "Ukraine Citizen", but he slips and refers to Russia as "we". He gives the Russian narrative version of all those world events, and demonizes, perhaps rightly so on some accounts, the US involvement. Finally he speaks on behalf of the Russian and Chinese Alliance and threatens the West.
There is another video making the rounds that has the same set up at the beginning. The guy is walking around Kyiv and states he's an American living in Ukraine. That's a psychological tactic: Listen to me because I am one of you.
Q is a patriotic movement, why are we cheering on the "bear and the dragon"? We are not idiot Libs that align with each other because the enemy of my enemy is my friend (example muslim extremists and feminists). We may have a common enemy - the Deep State - but that doesn't mean the bear and the dragon are allies or worth cheering on.
Fair enough, but Q has said many things that were either misdirection or false (ie. 2020 election would be secure).
The WEF, the biggest promoter of the NWO, loves China and wants to export it's technocratic model everywhere. How do you square China fighting to remove the NWO and at the same time being promoted by the WEF?
How do you square China fighting to remove the NWO and at the same time being promoted by the WEF?
I notice George Soros went from supporting China to a full-on attack of Xi Jinping, for starters.
It is to be hoped that Xi Jinping may be replaced by someone less repressive at home and more peaceful abroad. This would remove the greatest threat that open societies face today and they should do everything within their power to encourage China to move in the desired direction.
I notice George Soros went from supporting China to a full-on attack of Xi Jinping, for starters.
So you're presuming that Soros is the spokesperson for the WEF and that Xi is now fighting the NWO. Apart from Soros condemning Xi, do you have any evidence of that?
Similar to your other thread, you seem to take the very one dimensional position that if a person aligns themselves in a certain way in one situation, you can then infer their entire motives outside of that situation. Clearly there is no space for nuance of reason in that logic.
An example: Betsy likes cats. You would then try to argue that Betsy hates dogs. You can't infer one from the other.
So you're presuming that Soros is the spokesperson for the WEF and that Xi is now fighting the NWO. Apart from Soros condemning Xi, do you have any evidence of that?
Soros gave a speech condemning Xi along with Trump at the World Economic Forum in 2020. It's obvious Xi isn't playing ball to anybody who's actually paying attention...
Remarks delivered at the World Economic Forum
Davos, Switzerland, January 23, 2020
We live at a transformational moment in history.The survival of open societies is endangeredand we face an even greater crisis: climate change. It is threatening the survival of our civilization. These twin challenges have inspired me to announce the most important project of my life here tonight.
As I argue in my recent book, In Defense of Open Society, in a revolutionary moment the range of possibilities is far wider than in normal times. It has become easier to influence events than to understand what is going on. As a consequence, outcomes are unlikely to correspond to people’s expectations. This has already caused widespread disappointment that populist politicians have exploited for their own purposes.
Open Society has not always needed defending as it does today.Some forty years ago, when I got engaged in what I call my political philanthropy, the wind was at our back and carried us forward. International cooperation was the prevailing creed. In some ways it prevailed even in the crumbling and ideologically bankrupt Soviet Union – remember the marxist’s slogan “workers of the world unite”? In contrast, the European Union was in the ascendant and I considered it the embodiment of the open society.
But the tide turned against open societies after the crash of 2008 because it constituted a failure of international cooperation. This in turn led to the rise of nationalism, the great enemy of open society.
In the middle of last year I still cherished some hopes that there would be another reversal towards international cooperation. The European parliamentary elections produced surprisingly favorable results. Participation increased by 8%—the first uptick since the Parliament was established. More importantly, the silent majority spoke up in favor of greater European cooperation.
But by the end of the year my hopes were dashed.The strongest powers, the US, China and Russia remained in the hands of would-be or actual dictators and the ranks of authoritarian rulers continued to grow.
The fight to prevent Brexit—harmful both to Britain and to the EU—ended in a crushing defeat.
Nationalism, far from being reversed, made further headway.The biggest and most frightening setback occurred in India where a democratically elected Narendra Modi is creating a Hindu nationalist state, imposing punitive measures on Kashmir, a semi-autonomous Muslim region, and threatening to deprive millions of Muslims of their citizenship.
In Latin America a humanitarian catastrophe continues to unfold. By the beginning of this year almost 5 million Venezuelans had emigrated, causing tremendous disruption in neighboring countries.At the same time, Bolsonaro has failed to prevent the destruction of the rain forests in Brazil in order to open it up for cattle ranching.In a further blow, the UN climate conference in Madrid broke up without reaching any meaningful agreement.
To top it all off, Kim Jong-un threatened the United States with its nuclear capabilities in his New Year’s speech and Trump’s impetuous actions heightened the risk of a conflagration in the Middle East.
Let me now turn to another vexing topic, the relationship between the United States and China. It has become incredibly complicated and difficult to understand. The interaction between the two presidents, Donald Trump and Xi Jinping, provides a useful clue. Both face internal constraints and various enemies. Both try to extend the powers of their office to its limit and beyond. While they have found some mutually beneficial reasons to cooperate, their motivations are completely different.
President Trump is a con man and the ultimate narcissist who wants the world to revolve around him. When his fantasy of becoming president came true, his narcissism developed a pathological dimension. Indeed, he has transgressed the limits imposed on the presidency by the Constitution and has been impeached for it. At the same time, he has managed to gather a large number of followers who have bought into his alternative reality. This has turned his narcissism into a malignant disease. He came to believe that he could impose his alternative reality not only on his followers but on reality itself.
Trump’s counterpart, Xi Jinping, suffered a traumatic experience in his early youth. His father had been one of the founders of the Chinese Communist Party. He was expelled, and his son, Xi Jinping, grew up in rural exile. Since that time, the goal of Xi’s leadership became to reassert the Communist Party’s dominance over Chinese life. He called it the “Chinese dream” of a “rejuvenated” China capable of projecting its power and influence throughout the world. Xi Jinping has abolished a carefully developed system of collective leadership and became a dictator as soon as he gained sufficient strength to do so.
When it comes to their motivations, they are totally different,Trump is willing to sacrifice the national interests for his personal interests and he will do practically anything to win re-election. By contrast, Xi Jinping is eager to exploit Trump’s weaknesses and use artificial intelligence to achieve total control over his people.
Xi’s success is far from assured. One of China’s vulnerabilities is that it still depends on the United States to supply it with the microprocessors it needs to dominate the 5G market and to fully implement the social credit system that is a threat to open societies.
Xi Jinping also faces some impersonal forces like demographics working against him. The one child policy, in effect until 2015, created a shortage of both young workers and child-bearing women and a surfeit of old people. These trends are bound to get worse. The decline in the working age population is now relentless.
The Belt and Road Initiative has required giving large loans, some of which will never be repaid. China can ill-afford this because its budget deficit has increased and its trade surplus has diminished. Since Xi Jinping has centralized power in his hands, China’s economic policy has also lost its flexibility and inventiveness.
To make matters worse for Xi, the Trump Administration has developed a comprehensive and bipartisan policy towards China, which has declared that China is a strategic rival. This is the only bipartisan policy that the Trump Administration has been able to produce and there is only one man who can violate it with impunity: President Trump himself.
Unfortunately from an open society point of view, he is capable of doing so, as he has demonstrated by putting Huawei on the bargaining table with Xi Jinping.
With this background, let me put the tumultuous events since the beginning of this year into the proper perspective.
President Trump didn’t have a strategic plan when he authorized the launching of a missile that killed the leader of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Suleimani, and an Iraqi pro-Iranian militia commander; but he has an unfailing instinct that tells him how his faithful followers would respond to his actions.They are jubilant. This made the task of the Democrats, who impeached him,extremely difficult.The trial in the Senate is shaping up to be a strictly pro forma affair because the Republican majority in the Senate is united behind Trump—although Chief Justice Roberts, who is presiding, may surprise us.
At the same time, Trump’s economic team has managed to overheat an already buoyant economy.The stock market, already celebrating Trump’s military success, is breaking out to reach new heights. But an overheated economy can’t be kept boiling for too long.
If all this had happened closer to the elections, it would have assured his reelection. His problem is that the elections are still 10 months away and in a revolutionary situation, that is a lifetime.
From an open society point of view, the situation is quite grim. It would be easy to give in to despair, but that would be a mistake. The public is beginning to be aware of the dangers of climate change. It has certainly become the top priority of the European Union –but we can’t count on the United States while Trump is in power because he is a climate denier.
There are also grounds to hope for the survival of open societies. They have their weaknesses, but so do repressive regimes. The greatest shortcoming of dictatorships is that when they are successful, they don’t know when or how to stop being repressive. They lack the checks and balances that give democracies a degree of stability. As a result, the oppressed revolt.
We see this happening today all around the world. The most successful rebellion so far has been in Hong Kong, but it comes at a great cost: it may well destroy the city’s economic prosperity. There are so many revolts going on in the world that it would take too long to examine each case individually.
Observing this torrent of rebellions, I can venture a generalization about the ones that are likely to succeed. They are typified by Hong Kong. It has no visibly identifiable leadership and yet it has the overwhelming support of the population.
I began to form this conclusion when I learnt about a spontaneous movement of young people turning up at rallies held by Matteo Salvini, the would-be dictator of Italy. They held up cut-out signs of sardines proclaiming “sardines against Salvini,” and explaining that there are many more sardines than sharks like Salvini, so the sardines are bound to prevail.
Sardines are the Italian variant of a worldwide trend led by young people. This leads me to conclude that today’s youth may have found a way to confront nationalist dictatorships.
I see another constructive force emerging worldwide: the mayors of major cities are organizing around important issues. In Europe, climate change and internal migration are high on their agenda. This coincides with the main concerns of today’s youth. Uniting around these issues could create a powerful pro-European, pro-open society movement. But it’s an open question whether these aspirations will succeed.
Taking into account the climate emergency and worldwide unrest, it’s not an exaggeration to say that 2020 and the next few years will determine not only the fate of Xi and Trump, but also the fate of the world.
If we survive the near-term, we still need a long-term strategy. If Xi Jinping succeeds in fully implementing his social credit system, he will bring into existence a new type of authoritarian system and a new type of human being who is willing to surrender his personal autonomy in order to stay out of trouble. Once lost, personal autonomy will be difficult to recover. An open society would have no place in such a world.
I believe that as a long-term strategy our best hope lies in access to quality education, specifically an education that reinforces the autonomy of the individual by cultivating critical thinking and emphasizing academic freedom.
30 years ago I set up an educational institution that does exactly that. It is called the Central European University (CEU) and its mission is to advance the values of the open society.
"Once lost, personal autonomy will be difficult to recover. An open society would have no place in such a world." - George Soros
"I believe that as a long-term strategy our best hope lies in access to quality education, specifically an education that reinforces the autonomy of the individual by cultivating critical thinking and emphasizing academic freedom." - George Soros
"it needs to dominate the 5G market and to fully implement the social credit system that is a threat to open societies" - George Soros
So you've said very specifically that "when you take the side of George Soros, you better have a damn fucking good reason". Do you agree or disagree with George Soros? Or are you just selective when you apply this principle?
What's interesting is you believe critical race theory is quality education just because George Soros uses the words "quality education" in a speech.
Virginia Republican gubernatorial nominee Glenn Youngkin came under fire this week after he accused allies of Democratic megadonor George Soros of planting political operatives on Virginia school boards, with some critics calling Youngkin's comments antisemitic.
Also, I'm glad you pointed out his comments about the social credit system. George Soros had absolutely no problems with the social credit system in China until Xi quit playing along in 2019.
He says whatever he needs to in order to shape public opinion against his enemies.
Soros had no problems censoring social media in the United States. His Media Matters organization played a huge role in the effort to censor social media. Those efforts started in 2017 after Clinton's surprise loss.
During these 30 years, CEU emerged as one of the hundred best graduate universities in the world in the social sciences. It has also become one of the most international universities, with students from 120 countries and a faculty coming from more than 50 countries.
Similar to your other thread, you seem to take the very one dimensional position that if a person aligns themselves in a certain way in one situation, you can then infer their entire motives outside of that situation. Clearly there is no space for nuance of reason in that logic. An example: Betsy likes cats. You would then try to argue that Betsy hates dogs. You can't infer one from the other.
I can infer you're a smooth brain because all you do is repeat MSM talking points and then try to talk down to me with Philosophy 101 retardation. And the ad hominem is intentional.
I see your angle but as per the Q post, POTUS can't coordinate with the Chinese citizens to remove the NWO. There is no back channel from POTUS to get around the CCP.
I think xi actually is aware and working with trump/white hats and there are potentially powerful anti ccp factions in China, maybe influential rich people too
Fucking very well said. Ukrainian people have been getting fucked by there corrupt leaders and the world for a long time. Russia is not an invader but a liberator.
Every human on earth had been enslaved.
"You better free your mind instead" John Lennon was awakened
Not when he wrote that drek "Imagine", he wasn't.
Worst. Song. Ever.
It's one of them for sure.
it sucks having an opinion on this that enrages friends and family... I can take the weird looks when someone finds out I monitor all the Q stuff. The fact that I think that Russia might have valid reasons for what they are doing is a verry unpopular opinion and one I hesitate even voicing because if I voice it other conservatives react to Russia and Putin like liberals that have trump derangement syndrome.
Everyone has been brainwashed for 50 years that Russia is enemy #1 and then it turns out NWO cabal set up basecamp right at their doorstep- almost like their deadmans switch was to start WW3 with a potentially innocent country if ever caught.
And they have been caught.
their (= belonging to them)
Yes but give it up, anon
People are in a hurry, typing on a phone, auto-fill and spell checkers give wrong spellings, no one has time to edit online posts, etc.
We can "there/ their/ they're" them till we're blew in the face, and it won't matter
And forget about lie/ lay/ lain :)
/wordnerd
Ewe spelt "blue" rong
I feel like that was intentional as a joke lol
On porpoise; )
Misspellings and context matter
There having they're lunch over their. (I'm with you... I don't mind it so much in messages like this, but what I hate is seeing a clever meme with bad spelling or grammar as it loses its potency that way.)
Yeah, all those missiles blowing up their cities look liberating.
Ask yourself why are they doing it instead of just a snarky comment.
Liberated from their homes, livelihoods, lives and if the Chechens roll through... daughters.
"But he doesn't speak for all Ukrainians! 111!"
*Actual response I received
I didnt even bother to share with most. Id get the same response. Not worth the hastle, time, breath.
I post stuff but never go back to read the comments or anything lol - hell I have never even checked my personal messages, I just post videos and opinions of my own and never look at any feedback
Metoo fren...metoo
“ Cast not your pearls before swine “.
What I imagine is not being discussed on MSM is that (Theory) there is a new battle in the Eastern Orthodox-Catholic strife... the Catholics are fleeing to Catholic Poland while the Eastern Orthodox Ukrainians are welcoming the Liberators....The Muslims are likely lying low with the extremists looking for opportunities to procure weapons and nuclear material... Again this is Just Theory.
Good quality radioisotopes are hard to find.
"Neither does the MSM, faggot" should have been your response.
Well it’s true, sadly. Normies and sheep come in all races. My Ukrainian wife is based. However, I have to be careful what I say about the situation because she is more worried about her family in the middle of gunfire and explosions than her country’s politics atm. She’s not taking well to the Putin is a good guy angle.
Yeah, that's good one.
DAMN...Proof that we have been lied to for sooo long ....
LOL...they must be Crazy...If Russians won't take them on...LOL!
They’re vile creatures, straight from hell.
Very good!
This should go viral.
working on it.
Thank you. Maybe different video formats would make it easier to embed and share — sorry not my wheelhouse.
There is a download button at the site it is hosted on.
Thank you, yes I’m retarded.
Thanks bud, for making me feel like I'm 79 and being semi blind and incompetent. Now I know how it feels, lol.
Shared, thank you.
No, thank you
Wow! Truth is spoken.
That was fantastic!
Great 6 min of blasting narrative
This is how dangerous the media is and has been. How would most people even know that something was going on in any of those countries much less the truth about what it was? That's what needs a purge and accounting.
One of the gifts that Q has given us is awareness. Before the end of 2017, we all knew the world was in the grips of greedy bankers who'd infiltrated basically every aspect of society with control measures. Personally, I could see no way out of that situation, and it was depressing as hell.
I had no idea, though, how truly evil things were being done to Humans...and for a very long time. This darkness is ancient, and it couldn't be vanquished all in a flash of light. Bless all who've been working towards that glorious end.
This is GOLD!
Excellent should be on media here in the UK as the fucking morons run around with their Ukrainian flags.
If this isn't enough to get their attention, what will?
"Oh he's not really a Ukrainian." "He doesn't live in Ukraine." "Putin shill." Those are just a few excuses already heard.
Well those people can burn in hell for all I care, it’s time to stop babying these idiots.
GOD Bless this man.. Opened my eyes like I was a sleeping sheep. PRAY 🙏
Ukraine is literally being liberated on some Farcry shit.
Will do
He has to play along. This operation doesn't need his support, or the distraction that comes with it.
I get your frustration, but honestly it would make my red pilling efforts so much harder if Trump took this position right now.
As it stands, I am able to use Trump as an anchor for bad media narrative to my more conservative friends.
For my liberal friends, I can use the fact that Putin didn’t invade under Trump to foil their “Russian puppet” crying.
But if Trump goes all in on backing Putin, then even my conservative friends will turn on Trump, and my red pilling efforts will be completely clouded up to them.
This is the right call for where we are right now, fren.
It makes Biden look worse right now plus look at how many normie conservatives already fell for it before he even spoke. Also it'll just stoke the "he's controlled by Putin" claims.
You gotta be an idiot to not see the optics he’s playing right now.
He didn't really blame Putin though - he called Putin smart and Biden weak and stupid.
This video should be shared high and low. Even I remember much of what he say.
Most excellent video & glad to see it!! This is one to spread far & wide 😎👍🏽
This. I need to listen 2 or 3 more times. God forgive us. We must reclaim this country. The evil here and everywhere needs to be defeated.
guys I may give you the impression that I am stupid but HOW CAN I SAVE THIS VIDEO? What is this fucking website ? Click right doesnt give me shit and I want to save this cause this man is telling the truth, please just help me on this.
There is one called save any video. I googled how to download rumble videos and it came up. Try that.
The Russians as a force to root out corruption and liberate is high comedy.
Can anyone make this a download able video so it can be shared easier? Thanks
There’s a download button where the video is hosted.
the youtube link of this video for those whos sheeple friends cry about about the source website
https://youtu.be/ymdIC5EJgQk
This should be rammed down the throat of every useless politician on Capitol Hill.
Checked comments, glad someone else caught the "bear and dragon" reference but did anyone notive the obvious owl on the wall?
Can anyone who knows a thing about how Ukrainians look or what a Ukrainian accent sounds like confirm or deny this guy being Ukrainian?
Fantastic find op
So Russia stirs the shit in Ukraine making them rebel... Ukraine puts down the rebellion or at least tries to, and we're supposed to cry tears for the rebels now?
That's the one part of this whole thing that bothers me. Everyone knows that the guys in charge before all the color revolution stuff were Putin stooges. Ukraine was Belarus now... it was a pseudo controlled sub-state of Russia and the Ukrainian people on the west side of Ukraine didn't want to be Russian.
I just went around in circle arguing with myself and it always comes back to two simple facts. #1 If you are Russian speaking and don't want to live in non-Russian Ukraine then move to fucking Russia. You have options. The Ukrainian speaking people in the west have nowhere to go and don't want to be fucking Russian.
#2 Assuming there isn't some Q/Trump/Putin plan to expose the cabal(which I'm not saying there is or isn't just for the sake of argument)... then Putin is using the Russian speaking people Stalin forced into Ukraine as an excuse for a land grab. The border was made and everyone agreed 30+ years ago. If they want to live in Russia they should move to freaking Russia. 99% of those people didn't live where they are only 2-3 generations ago.
This is all bullshit and smoke. If eastern Ukraine was a useless patch of desert Putin would be doing nothing. We all know it. Its valuable farm land and sea ports. So he's got to save the poor people Stalin moved there for exactly this reason. Damn the consequences. Like I said... bullshit.
Don't get me wrong the Ukrainian gov is corrupt as fuck blah blah blah... but the people for the most part are good people. They don't deserve the have Putin's boot on their neck. And they don't deserve to have their land stolen for the 500 time.
Excellent video!
Guys, what am I missing here? This is pure Russian propaganda.
He sets the premise that he is "one of us", by the story of his childhood friend. The video suggests he is a "Ukraine Citizen", but he slips and refers to Russia as "we". He gives the Russian narrative version of all those world events, and demonizes, perhaps rightly so on some accounts, the US involvement. Finally he speaks on behalf of the Russian and Chinese Alliance and threatens the West.
There is another video making the rounds that has the same set up at the beginning. The guy is walking around Kyiv and states he's an American living in Ukraine. That's a psychological tactic: Listen to me because I am one of you.
Q is a patriotic movement, why are we cheering on the "bear and the dragon"? We are not idiot Libs that align with each other because the enemy of my enemy is my friend (example muslim extremists and feminists). We may have a common enemy - the Deep State - but that doesn't mean the bear and the dragon are allies or worth cheering on.
Trump Tweeted the following 7 years ago-
Obama is looking like an incompetent fool in the handling of the war against.ISIS! Why isn't China and Russia helping - they gain so much!
Also, you clearly aren't reading the Q drops and researching them.
After all, what if China, Russia, and others ARE coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?
Why is Russia helping to kill ISIS?
This is not easy to accept nor believe. <--- You are here
Crumbs make bread.
u/#q140
The "Ghost of Kiev" totally sounded like plagiarizing "Iron Eagle" BTW.
Fair enough, but Q has said many things that were either misdirection or false (ie. 2020 election would be secure).
The WEF, the biggest promoter of the NWO, loves China and wants to export it's technocratic model everywhere. How do you square China fighting to remove the NWO and at the same time being promoted by the WEF?
I notice George Soros went from supporting China to a full-on attack of Xi Jinping, for starters.
It is to be hoped that Xi Jinping may be replaced by someone less repressive at home and more peaceful abroad. This would remove the greatest threat that open societies face today and they should do everything within their power to encourage China to move in the desired direction.
https://www.georgesoros.com/2022/01/31/george-soros-on-china-remarks-delivered-at-the-hoover-institution/
So you're presuming that Soros is the spokesperson for the WEF and that Xi is now fighting the NWO. Apart from Soros condemning Xi, do you have any evidence of that?
Similar to your other thread, you seem to take the very one dimensional position that if a person aligns themselves in a certain way in one situation, you can then infer their entire motives outside of that situation. Clearly there is no space for nuance of reason in that logic.
An example: Betsy likes cats. You would then try to argue that Betsy hates dogs. You can't infer one from the other.
Here's the link to George Soros' bio on WEF. It literally identifies him as one of the authors of the agenda directly in the url.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/georgesoros
Soros gave a speech condemning Xi along with Trump at the World Economic Forum in 2020. It's obvious Xi isn't playing ball to anybody who's actually paying attention...
Remarks delivered at the World Economic Forum
Davos, Switzerland, January 23, 2020
We live at a transformational moment in history. The survival of open societies is endangered and we face an even greater crisis: climate change. It is threatening the survival of our civilization. These twin challenges have inspired me to announce the most important project of my life here tonight.
As I argue in my recent book, In Defense of Open Society, in a revolutionary moment the range of possibilities is far wider than in normal times. It has become easier to influence events than to understand what is going on. As a consequence, outcomes are unlikely to correspond to people’s expectations. This has already caused widespread disappointment that populist politicians have exploited for their own purposes.
Open Society has not always needed defending as it does today. Some forty years ago, when I got engaged in what I call my political philanthropy, the wind was at our back and carried us forward. International cooperation was the prevailing creed. In some ways it prevailed even in the crumbling and ideologically bankrupt Soviet Union – remember the marxist’s slogan “workers of the world unite”? In contrast, the European Union was in the ascendant and I considered it the embodiment of the open society.
But the tide turned against open societies after the crash of 2008 because it constituted a failure of international cooperation. This in turn led to the rise of nationalism, the great enemy of open society.
In the middle of last year I still cherished some hopes that there would be another reversal towards international cooperation. The European parliamentary elections produced surprisingly favorable results. Participation increased by 8%—the first uptick since the Parliament was established. More importantly, the silent majority spoke up in favor of greater European cooperation.
But by the end of the year my hopes were dashed. The strongest powers, the US, China and Russia remained in the hands of would-be or actual dictators and the ranks of authoritarian rulers continued to grow.
The fight to prevent Brexit—harmful both to Britain and to the EU—ended in a crushing defeat.
Nationalism, far from being reversed, made further headway. The biggest and most frightening setback occurred in India where a democratically elected Narendra Modi is creating a Hindu nationalist state, imposing punitive measures on Kashmir, a semi-autonomous Muslim region, and threatening to deprive millions of Muslims of their citizenship.
In Latin America a humanitarian catastrophe continues to unfold. By the beginning of this year almost 5 million Venezuelans had emigrated, causing tremendous disruption in neighboring countries. At the same time, Bolsonaro has failed to prevent the destruction of the rain forests in Brazil in order to open it up for cattle ranching. In a further blow, the UN climate conference in Madrid broke up without reaching any meaningful agreement.
To top it all off, Kim Jong-un threatened the United States with its nuclear capabilities in his New Year’s speech and Trump’s impetuous actions heightened the risk of a conflagration in the Middle East.
Let me now turn to another vexing topic, the relationship between the United States and China. It has become incredibly complicated and difficult to understand. The interaction between the two presidents, Donald Trump and Xi Jinping, provides a useful clue. Both face internal constraints and various enemies. Both try to extend the powers of their office to its limit and beyond. While they have found some mutually beneficial reasons to cooperate, their motivations are completely different.
President Trump is a con man and the ultimate narcissist who wants the world to revolve around him. When his fantasy of becoming president came true, his narcissism developed a pathological dimension. Indeed, he has transgressed the limits imposed on the presidency by the Constitution and has been impeached for it. At the same time, he has managed to gather a large number of followers who have bought into his alternative reality. This has turned his narcissism into a malignant disease. He came to believe that he could impose his alternative reality not only on his followers but on reality itself.
Trump’s counterpart, Xi Jinping, suffered a traumatic experience in his early youth. His father had been one of the founders of the Chinese Communist Party. He was expelled, and his son, Xi Jinping, grew up in rural exile. Since that time, the goal of Xi’s leadership became to reassert the Communist Party’s dominance over Chinese life. He called it the “Chinese dream” of a “rejuvenated” China capable of projecting its power and influence throughout the world. Xi Jinping has abolished a carefully developed system of collective leadership and became a dictator as soon as he gained sufficient strength to do so.
When it comes to their motivations, they are totally different, Trump is willing to sacrifice the national interests for his personal interests and he will do practically anything to win re-election. By contrast, Xi Jinping is eager to exploit Trump’s weaknesses and use artificial intelligence to achieve total control over his people.
Xi’s success is far from assured. One of China’s vulnerabilities is that it still depends on the United States to supply it with the microprocessors it needs to dominate the 5G market and to fully implement the social credit system that is a threat to open societies.
Xi Jinping also faces some impersonal forces like demographics working against him. The one child policy, in effect until 2015, created a shortage of both young workers and child-bearing women and a surfeit of old people. These trends are bound to get worse. The decline in the working age population is now relentless.
The Belt and Road Initiative has required giving large loans, some of which will never be repaid. China can ill-afford this because its budget deficit has increased and its trade surplus has diminished. Since Xi Jinping has centralized power in his hands, China’s economic policy has also lost its flexibility and inventiveness.
To make matters worse for Xi, the Trump Administration has developed a comprehensive and bipartisan policy towards China, which has declared that China is a strategic rival. This is the only bipartisan policy that the Trump Administration has been able to produce and there is only one man who can violate it with impunity: President Trump himself.
Unfortunately from an open society point of view, he is capable of doing so, as he has demonstrated by putting Huawei on the bargaining table with Xi Jinping.
With this background, let me put the tumultuous events since the beginning of this year into the proper perspective.
President Trump didn’t have a strategic plan when he authorized the launching of a missile that killed the leader of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Suleimani, and an Iraqi pro-Iranian militia commander; but he has an unfailing instinct that tells him how his faithful followers would respond to his actions. They are jubilant. This made the task of the Democrats, who impeached him, extremely difficult. The trial in the Senate is shaping up to be a strictly pro forma affair because the Republican majority in the Senate is united behind Trump—although Chief Justice Roberts, who is presiding, may surprise us.
At the same time, Trump’s economic team has managed to overheat an already buoyant economy. The stock market, already celebrating Trump’s military success, is breaking out to reach new heights. But an overheated economy can’t be kept boiling for too long.
If all this had happened closer to the elections, it would have assured his reelection. His problem is that the elections are still 10 months away and in a revolutionary situation, that is a lifetime.
From an open society point of view, the situation is quite grim. It would be easy to give in to despair, but that would be a mistake. The public is beginning to be aware of the dangers of climate change. It has certainly become the top priority of the European Union – but we can’t count on the United States while Trump is in power because he is a climate denier.
There are also grounds to hope for the survival of open societies. They have their weaknesses, but so do repressive regimes. The greatest shortcoming of dictatorships is that when they are successful, they don’t know when or how to stop being repressive. They lack the checks and balances that give democracies a degree of stability. As a result, the oppressed revolt.
We see this happening today all around the world. The most successful rebellion so far has been in Hong Kong, but it comes at a great cost: it may well destroy the city’s economic prosperity. There are so many revolts going on in the world that it would take too long to examine each case individually.
Observing this torrent of rebellions, I can venture a generalization about the ones that are likely to succeed. They are typified by Hong Kong. It has no visibly identifiable leadership and yet it has the overwhelming support of the population.
I began to form this conclusion when I learnt about a spontaneous movement of young people turning up at rallies held by Matteo Salvini, the would-be dictator of Italy. They held up cut-out signs of sardines proclaiming “sardines against Salvini,” and explaining that there are many more sardines than sharks like Salvini, so the sardines are bound to prevail.
Sardines are the Italian variant of a worldwide trend led by young people. This leads me to conclude that today’s youth may have found a way to confront nationalist dictatorships.
I see another constructive force emerging worldwide: the mayors of major cities are organizing around important issues. In Europe, climate change and internal migration are high on their agenda. This coincides with the main concerns of today’s youth. Uniting around these issues could create a powerful pro-European, pro-open society movement. But it’s an open question whether these aspirations will succeed.
Taking into account the climate emergency and worldwide unrest, it’s not an exaggeration to say that 2020 and the next few years will determine not only the fate of Xi and Trump, but also the fate of the world.
If we survive the near-term, we still need a long-term strategy. If Xi Jinping succeeds in fully implementing his social credit system, he will bring into existence a new type of authoritarian system and a new type of human being who is willing to surrender his personal autonomy in order to stay out of trouble. Once lost, personal autonomy will be difficult to recover. An open society would have no place in such a world.
I believe that as a long-term strategy our best hope lies in access to quality education, specifically an education that reinforces the autonomy of the individual by cultivating critical thinking and emphasizing academic freedom.
30 years ago I set up an educational institution that does exactly that. It is called the Central European University (CEU) and its mission is to advance the values of the open society.
Agreed, but the person I'm replying to takes words at face value while accusing others of lacking nuance in their thought processes.
What;s interesting is what you didn't highlight.
"Once lost, personal autonomy will be difficult to recover. An open society would have no place in such a world." - George Soros
"I believe that as a long-term strategy our best hope lies in access to quality education, specifically an education that reinforces the autonomy of the individual by cultivating critical thinking and emphasizing academic freedom." - George Soros
"it needs to dominate the 5G market and to fully implement the social credit system that is a threat to open societies" - George Soros
So you've said very specifically that "when you take the side of George Soros, you better have a damn fucking good reason". Do you agree or disagree with George Soros? Or are you just selective when you apply this principle?
What's interesting is you believe critical race theory is quality education just because George Soros uses the words "quality education" in a speech.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/578080-youngkin-under-fire-for-invoking-george-soros-in-school-board-debate
Also, I'm glad you pointed out his comments about the social credit system. George Soros had absolutely no problems with the social credit system in China until Xi quit playing along in 2019.
He says whatever he needs to in order to shape public opinion against his enemies.
Soros had no problems censoring social media in the United States. His Media Matters organization played a huge role in the effort to censor social media. Those efforts started in 2017 after Clinton's surprise loss.
https://archive.fo/ECjiv
During these 30 years, CEU emerged as one of the hundred best graduate universities in the world in the social sciences. It has also become one of the most international universities, with students from 120 countries and a faculty coming from more than 50 countries.
https://www.georgesoros.com/2020/01/23/remarks-delivered-at-the-world-economic-forum-3/
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
I can infer you're a smooth brain because all you do is repeat MSM talking points and then try to talk down to me with Philosophy 101 retardation. And the ad hominem is intentional.
You're the guy that doesn't understand nuance and likes to hurl insults like a lib, but I'm the "smooth brain". OK....
What part of "the ad hominem is intentional" did you fail to understand?
And you still haven't explained why you support Ukraine.
Somebody's scared.
Can you answer why you support Ukraine without changing the subject?
Loves the CCP*, not the same as China. I think it’s simiilar to loving the democrats (and rinos) but not loving America
I see your angle but as per the Q post, POTUS can't coordinate with the Chinese citizens to remove the NWO. There is no back channel from POTUS to get around the CCP.
Another stealth account with a "clever" name made from a script, this time using the concern troll tactic. How many are in your collective?
I think xi actually is aware and working with trump/white hats and there are potentially powerful anti ccp factions in China, maybe influential rich people too
Trump and Russia took out ISIS. Biden's trying to reunite the squad.
Crumbs make bread. Bread goes in the breadbasket. What is the breadbasket of Europe? Why did Hitler attempt to take Ukraine? Just a thought...
"Crumbs" and "bread" are 8chan/8kun terms, but Ukraine is indeed the breadbasket of Europe.
Does that negate his questions about people not caring about those other conflicts?
Did you miss this: "demonizes, perhaps rightly so on some accounts, the US involvement."