Keep this in mind, back in 1927 China had under 500 million people, today they have 1.4 billion.
We have discussed the upcoming economic implosion in the real estate markets related to the Evergrande bankruptcy, tick tock.
Evergrande's debt is due now. https://asiatimes.com/2021/11/evergrandes-bankruptcy-still-just-a-matter-of-time/
3/23/2022 Evergrande Failure Imminent! https://thephaser.com/2022/03/alert-evergrande-failure-imminent-hold-tightly-to-silver-cryptos-for-after-the-crash/
The Chinese people do not trust the Chinese stock market. I read that 70% of the Chinese people invested in the booming real estate market over the years. It is about to go belly up. Real estate markets are going to get wrecked. House prices will fall and the life savings of the Chinese people will go up in smoke.
1927
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_massacre
The Chinese people will hang these pricks and they know it.
Plausible. I also have the theory in mind they are locking down ahead of their invasion of Taiwan. Both reasons do the same thing although in the end will be fruitless. And that intention is to stifle dissent in public protesting.
With so many people, if they want to protest, they will. There is no stopping them.
Is it also possible that the “lockdowns” are optics to TPTB that they’re still towing the COVID line while Xi cleans house in Shanghai due to limited movement of bad actors?
It might create a false sense of security for black hats—Shanghai is known to be a hub of corruption—that causes them to look the other way, allowing them to be continue with operations to remove enemies unhindered.
More accurately, the Shanghai government is known to be a hub of corruption. Xi gave us the virus. The black hats are in the Chinese government. They are not some annoying "rebels" that China just can't quite manage to get a handle on.
China, Zelensky, Biden... these are not white hats in disguise. Believe it or not, we do have actual enemies.
I know we do. But I think you’re forgetting the Q drop about Xi and Putin working with Trump to clean house.
And the one where Q thanks Xi.
Yes, but ‘Disinfo is necessary’
I don't read Q drops like the Bible so I can't comment on that. But the virus did ruin the entire US economy, just as China had been bribing our politicians to do for like a decade or more. Trump and countless others specifically linked it to China. They even found the actual lab where it was supposedly created and showed both a paper and money trail.
If Trump was cooperating with Xi then why did he basically wage war on Xi during his entire presidency? Which country is it that kidnaps and tortures its own citizens, then harvests their organs? At the olympics Chinese judges rigged the olympics. They kidnapped other nations' people and put them in quarantine. Their own gymnasts are used as sex slaves when not performing. What part of that screams "white hat" to you?
If Q is military and Q is "pro-Xi", then why was Trump "anti-Xi"?
Like I said, I'm not all into this Q stuff, but I figure it is like any large volume of text that is deemed to have some predictive value. There's "enough" in there that you can literally always find something to support whatever theory you want to push. Even more awkward with Q because it is deliberately vague and ambiguous in many cases, as though it were literally designed to support any number of interpretations.
I find it odd that in the last year or so everything we knew was suddenly deemed to be totally false, and the opposite true. I'm not the one who is "forgetting" things. I think people are too quick to point to 1 little thing out of 100 and say "see, this supports it, so it must be true". I guarantee there's some Q drop elsewhere that literally supports the opposite view. But people look at that and say "that must not be true because of this other Q drop". It does really seem lately like there is a coordinated effort to make us all pro-Russia and pro-China, but anti-USA, to the point where we are happy when our own nation is failing because we think it is cleaning up the world.
Here's my theory on Q. Trump, in cooperation with military intelligence, produced a series of confusing Nostradamus-style documents/posts containing enough actual knowledge of current events and events to come that they would be recognized as having been written by the military, and could be used as a way to communicate things they couldn't say openly. Because they could not divine the future, some of it was bound to be wrong, so it was worded in vague ways that could never be conclusively shown to be right or wrong. And then they peppered in some random but meaningful-sounding stuff containing a lot of common proper names and such of countries, world leaders, major players, etc., so they could use those strategically however it was needed. Then they planted people on these forums to guide the narrative/interpretation and make sure we were all on point to help 45 get his job done. And for 4 years this worked like a charm, but now Trump is not in power and there is no longer a guiding hand in the narrative, and people are getting lost in the ambiguous aspects of a handful of contradictory Q posts. It seems highly unlikely that the propaganda arms of the two most famous propaganda-producing nations (Russia and China, who also now are the tightest of allies) would not have taken notice of this, and stepped in to promote the interpretations that were useful to them. Certainly, the idea that the most evil country in the world, who has done tremendous damage to the world and especially the USA, that Trump specifically called out for its actions against us, was some kind of "white hat" and/or a friend to us, seems totally beyond the pale. I don't think it is true and I say that any such interpretation of any Q drop needs some closer scrutiny, and that possibly other Q drops should be examined to see if that interpretation is also compatible with those.
Love the dooming word salad here.
You’re taking my comment as gospel, when I merely mean to say “the opposite might be true,” like you just said in your own response.
Tell me—do you truly think ours is the only government that has bad actors (CIA, FBI, FDA, Congress…) and good actors (military intelligence, Freedom Caucus, etc.)
Do you truly think you can take a massive, global conspiracy down with 100% transparency.?
There is a non-zero chance that Xi did not order the virus released, as we now know Biden and Co. were involved with the Ukraine labs as well as the WIV. If anyone “triggered” the release of the virus, it was Nancy Pelosi through her visit.
China just told her that she cannot, under no uncertain terms, head to Taiwan. I’m pretty sure she was going for round two to release something else for the midterm elections.
There are too many Q proofs to claim it’s just a psyop. READ THEM. And then we can debate (:
this is a q research board, right?
I agree with you, and am glad to see others say so. The rate at which everyone on this board switched from hating China to the belief that Xi is a white hat is astounding and disturbing. The idea that Xi is a white hat and it's really just the CCP that's evil is rather laughable. Xi straight up IS the CCP anymore. He has huge amounts of power, and they recently decided he could be president for life. If the CCP is doing something, Xi is probably the one who's ultimately behind it.
Everyone around here was just suddenly totally supporting Xi, not to mention Putin, while hoping for the acceleration of destruction here in the US. It would make perfect sense that China and Russia would have disinformation agents spreading propaganda and misinformation that would make people see them in a positive light. And it's foolish to think such things aren't happening along with any other psyops going on. I agree that Q's Nostradamus nature allows people to interpret them in many many ways, and if enough people latch onto an idea, away it goes. Q drops may support such a position, but it doesn't mean such a position or theory is true; especially when reality reflects something different.
Sound. I have learned to be careful 'interpreting' Q. eg flynn
Closer scrutiny of Q drops? Then you finna start reading Q drops like the Bible. You soundin like you know nuttin.
I think what has shocked me in the last week or so is that IF the US military are in control in the US, who the hell are the US Military Generals in Ukraine (confirmed 1 dead/captured) that are aiding the Nazis? Why? It is also believed - from those in Ukraine and families of those deployed, that the US Military are aiding the Ukraine and AZOV Nazis. If the Military are in charge, why are $1billion plus munitions being handed over, including helicopters to Ukraine, (NATO)? There is report that the US is running low on javelin missiles. Also, the never before seen missiles that Russia has just used, are far superior than anything the US have. They have used their old and redundant weapons and it is believed the ‘new’ stuff is still in reserve. I’m just asking questions.
Could very well be those weapons are being stockpiled for the rotten cabal residing in the USA and will be used as protection once the gig is up and they pull the plug here and escape in their corporate jets shortly after midnight. If my guess is correct, this will be right about the time Hunter's hard-drive is handed over to the public via-wikileaks and the American sheeple find out the truth and the whitehouse is no longer used because of incresing safety concerns. ......... The ole shell game/smoke and mirrors, has been utilized too many times by our corrupt politicians to count, they are never prosecuted or even publicly called out. I am shocked we haven't learned by now that the hidden agenda is always right there in plain site, all we have to do is look. Because when you really think about it, this "Save Ukraine bullshit" is the exact opportunity they need to pull out their Super Mega Funnel and pump Ukraine full of everything they need, with free shipping aboard U.S. Govt. jets and military - oh excuse me, unaware military troops, armed to the teeth, whom are used as security guards to make sure their goodie bags make its destination.
If this is not convincing enough, than maybe consider this: Some of the highest dollar commodities ever paid for items, have been things that go BOOM, and leave total devistation wherever it is sent one way. Now, everyone says buy gold, buy silver, honestly if I had a bunch of food and its was during a total collapse of the system, and someone came to me with gold coins or silver bars to barter, i would be like, wtf are these going to help me get so I can survive? Bring me handguns and amunition then we can make a deal... Honestly, imho, I see these things as novelty items, they are (one day) only going to be worth what someone is willing to pay or trade for them. I'm sure every food trader will be thinking exactly like this when it all shuts down, gold? silver? yah, NO! Sure some of you will say its worth blah blah blah a ounce right now, and I would say that the U.S. Petro dollar/Fiat currency will one day buy you nothing, Hence all the cash laying on the streets in Venezuela....
One final thought: One who owns or, possess a few hundred - a few thousand, TOMAHAWK missles durng such a crisis as when Hunters laptop data is exposed to the world, can for dam sure eat anything they want., including "Pizza" and "Ice cream" - drops the mic and walks off the stage.... ... .. .
I agree with everything you're saying except the idea of Russia having superior weaponry. We spend way more on military and we have things like flying saucers and probably soon portable particle accelerator weapons and other futuristic things. But some of those things are probably part of DS endgame plans so might not be used in war until the last minute. It is starting to sound like the Ukrainians may genuinely have destroyed the flagship of Russia's navy, which doesn't look great for Russia if the world goes full force. I've heard that NATO's role in defending Ukraine has been somewhat minimal (I could have it wrong) and they are holding a lot of their forces back in the surrounding NATO states, moving troops around, etc. Possibly waiting for a series of false flags to get people fired up for WW3
Awkward situation, obviously nobody wants DS to win, but if there is a threat to the USA (even if we created it) then I only want the USA to win.
I really hope these midterms go well and we get Trump back soon. We all need to register as poll workers and get out to vote. Even after what happened in 2020 I think that may still be the only way out of this, with a lot of the voting reforms that are going on, exposure of the 2020 cheating, and ever-increasing anti-Dem/RINO sentiment.
Yes, and they have dug in their roots globally
Interesting chain of thought....
XI gave us "the virus"? What virus? I thought corona was genetically altered Cobra and Krait venom?
Do did not give us a virus..no one can give us a virus. Germ theory v terrain video bitchute ..
Xi
How about a link bro, if you're asking me to watch some random thing and explain it with respect to the well-established fact that China produced the virus.
It's not a well established fact. Ceo Pfizer admitted the jab was made without a virus. Chief epidemiologist Wuhan says they never isolated the virus..this is because they can't ..no virus has ever been isolated. Welcome trust said all they got from China was a computer code
The Bernician website the deception of virology
You must be new here..
I'm having trouble deciphering what you're saying. Pfizer made the jab without a virus, so the jab is a hoax (obviously). Wuhan says they never isolated the virus (why would they "isolate" a virus that they already created themselves?). For that matter, why would anyone else (in terms of official agencies) bother trying to isolate it if it was (a) irrelevant since all they wanted to do was push poisonous vaccines anyway and (b) doing so would expose both the Moderna patent connection and possibly other connections to the Wuhan lab and parties involved. I don't know about that last one, must have missed that one post that one time on that one day, sorry.
I'm not new here, and I can DEFINITELY tell that you are not new here.
The jab is not a hoax...it's experimental gene therapy and as such such never have been given a licence.
Because they marketed it as a vaccine...vaccines contain ..or so they said..virus material. It never has..not hiv ebola polio etc etc as it is impossible to isolate a virus ..you should Look at germ . Theory v terrain and then you will u nderstand
Why would anyone want to call himself David Wilcox?
Xi came out of the Shanghai gang of corruption.
This is relevant. Maybe jiang zemin wanted to start crap and going after shanghai would force xi's hand
No one (news, globalist politicians, leftists, etc) is criticizing Xi. Makes me doubt he’s doing any good.
That’s not true.
George Soros called him the biggest threat to “democracy” in the world.
Democracy = code for their NWO plans.
That is true. I felt that was about his “common prosperity” talk and not his covid lockdown end game.
Don’t have all the answers; guess we will find out!
They can both be assholes.
I don't understand this - the Chinese populace are unarmed. Chinese PDK has nothing to fear... they have no problem destroying it's people/dissenters. Massive protests just make easier population reduction for these guys. They aren't in a 'nato' organization, and, if so, the organization's course would be to protect the government, not the people. They don't care if the world looks down on them - they've been living like that for years, successfully. I understand a real estate crash is imminent, but economies suffer then rebuild from that.
spez: I may have responded to the wrong message - i was responding to the 'massive protests by the people' idea once the RE market crashes.
Oppressive governments are constantly in fear of their own people. The Communists promised people prosperity and if they can't keep the economy going (aka "food in people's mouths") then people will revolt. It's not as simple as "order the military (which is also the people)" to kill all of the people. China is totally dependent on their relationship with the rest of the world and if they openly slaughter half of Shanghai then this will inevitably be condemned by the rest of the world. They will face sanctions, meaning no foreign resources. All their foreign support will dry up because foreign powers will know the Chinese government does not have support of the people. China's enemies will stir up revolts everywhere to burn shit down in blitzkrieg-type attacks until there is no infrastructure left.
And how are those Chinese soldiers going to feel when they find out all of their and their families' life investments no longer exist? How can Beijing be sure that the soldiers stationed at all of the posts along Chinese borders will not (in their poverty and discontent) start abandoning their posts or accepting bribes to let foreign soldiers in, etc.
Ultimately, as an organization, China cannot exist without the cooperation of its people.
And yet North Korea still exists
What you're talking about is actually western propaganda about NK. For example, they have a thriving black market for western media.
https://www.npr.org/2017/07/05/534742750/watching-foreign-movies-is-illegal-in-north-korea-but-plenty-do-it-anyway
They know of the outside world and want to go there. And no, they don't think he's a God. They may tell you otherwise because if you don't publicly revere the guy, your life may be at stake.
I don't know if I would call what they have "existence"
USA bombed ten countries...no sanctions
The Chinese people, of all people, wage what are perhaps the goriest and bloodiest revolutions in all the world’s history. Whatever horrible event you might want to hold up as comparison is missing too many zeros in the “deaths” figure to rightly compare to some of the earth reddening events that have taken place in the Middle Kingdom. All just with household and farming utensils.
They know their history, is all. They’re right to tread lightly.
Yup.
Not disagreeing, rather asking for clarification.
Do we really believe the Chinese people would mass protest the invasion of Taiwan but not protest being forcibly locked down and starved to death?
I do believe you’re right in that the people are being incarcerated at home in preparation of an upcoming war and possibly economic crash.
A lot can be done while all of civilization is locked down.
I doubt the chinese would protest the invasion of taiwan. the majority chinese believe taiwan is part of china anyway
Interesting, the 1927 incident started in Wuhan...
The CCP will most likely try to blame the lockdown for the economic meltdown that is about to happen. You can't keep treating your people like dogs and not think at some point they are going to bite.
this is something simple to understand, let's go back to the end of 2019 when the "virus" began to "emerge", China's economy was in red numbers and a "miraculous" ''virus'' ''appeared'' making the country to become an economic power again in less than a year, also including all its world partners.
This technique is applied again, to recover and plunder as much as they can of the world's funds that are barely recovering after the artificially created virus.
also, the magic virus got rid of all those pesky protests in hong kong.
Yep I always found it an interesting "coincidence" how the virus popped up when those protests were making real progress and it led to my theory that the CCP released the virus early hence why the Democrats here were in such disarray for a while before they all suddenly got into lockstep.
If you dig into Chinese and Mongolian history all the way back to Genghis Khan, this is what they did and have done for centuries it’s fascinating to read the way they play people. During Marco Polos time with Kublai Khan 1271 - 1292, the grandson of Genghis, if any of the traders were caught trying to smuggle out the silk worm and were discovered instant death, that was their economy everything was based on the silk trade. Kublai, After conquering China, he founded the country's Yuan Dynasty and became its first emperor. Not much has changed in all this time, they still control what comes in and out of their country with an iron fist.
12 April 1927. Four days ago it was the 95-year delta.
Creepy long-range cultural damage to the innocent, misgoverned population and elephantine memories thereof.
In China, everything is amplified, so I guess their deltas are as well.
Also, thanks for the dot-connect. It does make sense. Incidentally, that refresher on Chinese history reminds me that Shanghai 1927 was the last stand from General Chiang Kai-shek, before the Kuo Min Tang escaped to Taiwan.
Ding. ding.
And Wuhan was their base.
One wonders if Taiwan are actually good guys.
Mais oui. They were the conservatives.
I think the CCP is most definitely fearful of their population who has had some taste of freedom so this could be exactly right, what if this province had invested the most money into the real estate scam as well ... hummm.
This. Revolution only happens when the people get a taste of freedom. I remember this from history class back when professors taught history in history class.
We did have one poly sci prof that railed on about the poor living conditions of the welfare apartments in town and how they should be given money. The students gave him hell about that.
Or when continuing to stay alive becomes more wretched than the thought of dying …
Suicide Weekend? I’ve already seen a guy wrestle his wife off a balcony splatter on the street
Solid post. Amazing how enlightening history can be.
Soros calls China's Xi Jinping 'the greatest threat that open societies face today’
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/soros-china-xi-jinping-greatest-threat-open-societies-face
I'm sure when Soros said this he was referring to his Open Societies Foundation and Fox changed the meaning. The CCP have said the same thing about Xi. We know Xi has been meeting with Putin for private talks. Its going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think it will play out like we are anticipating. The CCP has to many enemies which includes the people of China.
I agree the CCP is fearful. Their hold on the Chinese people is rather tenuous and has only lasted because they were able to "bribe" the people with an artificially propped up prosperity funded by limited capitalism and foreign investments. Those things are breaking down. When they do, the CCP is in trouble. That said, I'm not sure starving the entire population of your biggest city is a good idea for covering these failures up. Thr Chinese sure know how to abuse each other.1
They also haven’t met phase 1 and are nowhere near meeting phase 2. Covid was invented just as it became known China failed to meet phase 1. President Trump was about to implement phase 2 tariffs but held off because of covid. Phase 1 is a knee on China’s neck, they are feeling the restricted airflow by now. Phase 2 tariffs would be to apply pressure until there is crunching.
China is seriously desperate right now. And it’s questionable as to whether Biden can undo the EOs that are behind china’s pain because of very recent precedents set during president Trump’s term.
China has no problem disciplining its residents. I doubt they are afraid of an uprising.
Tienanmen Square - 10,000 murdered in one night. (Some photos graphic).
Tienanmen Square Massacre, June 4, 1989: https://www.usnews.com/cmsmedia/36/b0/a30161c644c2afc48e841ce36f22/140603-editorial.jpg
And: https://img.starbiz.com/resize/750x-/2020/06/04/tiananmen-square-massacre-7-d20f.jpg
Photo: https://i0.wp.com/anntelnaes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Bikespixels.jpg?resize=800%2C532&ssl=1
And: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-s0uGq73UEE0/V1JgdN5PaxI/AAAAAAAAB9A/1_znQ0Dtiggy2-dsAgq0CeTi5fMFpTcbwCLcB/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/tankman.png
Tank Man: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-C2lFfdixeC8/Ttzeo9VzP7I/AAAAAAAAABI/g29VNSRDlSg/s1600/Tank+man+4.jpg
And: https://images.hindustantimes.com/tech/img/2021/06/05/960x540/2021-06-05T005535Z_1_LYNXNPEH5400H_RTROPTP_3_CHINA-TIANANMEN_1622857666944_1622857679587.JPG
And: https://the.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/making_iconic_1989_tank_man_photo_1.jpg
Tanks ran over people (Graphic): https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3956/3690/1600/222.jpg
After being run over, they were set on fire and the ashes washed into the sewer.
How do the Chinese people hang them? The people haven’t got the guns. They don’t have a chance.
How do the zombies always get the man with the gun? You can't shoot a billion people if they are all coming for you at the same time. They won't be able to reload their weapons fast enough. Pitch forks, machetes, Molotov cocktails, pipe bombs, baseball bats, swords, nunchucks and a million Bruce Lee's.
If I put you in the middle of a football field with a automatic AR-15 and surround you with 10,000 people that you just stole the life savings from. My bet would go on the angry poor people.
3d printer and black powder.
How do the soldiers get fed and paid if the people are against them? How do their families stay safe if they are against the people? Soldiers and government officials will abandon ship, foreign powers will smuggle in weapons to empower rebel groups. Its impossible to keep an unwilling people enslaved forever.
"Author Shalom Auslander, who is disillusioned about his upbringing in a religious Jewish community in New York, argues..." Oh stop right there that's all I needed to read.
Interesting. Thank you. I even saw a Wuhan connection in there.
Ever Forward has been aground for weeks in the Chesapeake Bay. Anyone know why? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:6378710/zoom:9
Interesting that the name Joffe pops up way back then when it also popped up recently iirc linked to the Alfa bank set up?
I'm not too surprised https://youtu.be/xfPNZdwHNC0
Possible theory, for sure. However, why just Shanghai? There are lots of big cities there, each with millions of people.
This is the correct question.
i have a plausible explanation the chinese ccp are a murdering pack of cunts,!!! days. .
Theyniterally are already tearing g down the structures they built just 20 years ago with all that chinese savings. Poor Chinese people got took by their government too.
Do they have a modern-day Chiang Kai-shek?
China's population is about 1.1 billion, not 1.4
Call me naïve but I do not understand the desire these governments have to control their citizens and treat them poorly if they know it’s gonna piss them off. Why be jerks in the first place and risk a nasty revolt in the population that may lead to their (elites’) demise?
It’s neither irrational nor lunatic to them. It is a logical next step in their plan. If we don’t understand that, we waste a lot of energy feeling horrified instead of methodically investing it to defeat them.
You have heard the moto: United we stand, Divided we fall?
Is lock downs a form of dividing?
The desire for the CCP to lock down its people is self-preservation. The Chinese people were going to be pissed off either way, they all just had their life savings stolen. Free people can unite, protest and overthrow governments; a locked down society benefits the CCP because they only have to deal with small groups of resistance.
The Evergrande ponzi scheme created wealth and economic prosperity for many but all good things come to an end. When people started reporting on these ghost cities, investors got anxious and stopped investing. Evergrande needed that fresh income stream to keep things functioning. I think there were several cities built using foreign investments however these cities remained unoccupied. Evergrande became top heavy with too much infrastructure they could not sell.
Evergrande collapse will trickle down to all the large developers and the massive industry which makes up a large percentage of Chinese GDP, it is about to tank.
All these empty apartments will have to be sold dirt cheap to regain some of their capital to pay their debts. This will crush home prices. Now all the Chinese will be upside down mortgage agreements where they owe 3 times more than their home is worth.
I'm sure the CCP had their hand in the cookie jar when Evergrande was taking all these foreign investments which makes them partially responsible for this situation. Their duty should have been to shut that ponzi scheme down asap to prevent what has happened. Now they will pay the price for their greed.
I actually wish to purchase a bumper sticker with that very quote “United We Stand, Divided We Fall”. It’s very fitting with the current times thanks to politicians.
I’m not well versed in economics and haven’t been following much of the Chinese economy, but have heard about the impending Evergrande collapse; would this potentially signal the beginning of the USA’s own housing market crash? Or even our entire economy crumbling?
God, I hope so. I don't want to hate the Chinese people.
And I'm still not entirely convinced Xi is on our side and helping Trump. But I guess that uncertainty is what Xi and Trump are counting on.
The chinks will do fuck all. They are as cucked as we are in the west.
That massacre was 100 hundred years ago. Nuremberg was 70-80 years ago.
We have been conditioned into becoming a docile populace globally. There's a reason the MIL is the always the only way.