The masons are the deceivers. They pretend to be upstanding citizens, but they are not. Unlike others in the hierarchy, they are very careful to keep their true nature hidden. They have their own oaths and loyalties that supersede any oaths taken by Law Enforcement or Office. Masons are the worst scum ever and I hope we can find a way to never be victimized by them again.
The freemasons were infiltrated by Adam Weishaupt's new club "the Illuminati" shortly after its formation --- also in 1776. And the illuminati members came from the Jesuits, sabatean-frankists and other age-old secret societies as well.
For more details, check out "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison. Written in 1798 by a freemason who was a Christian who hated to see his men's club turned into a cabal tool:
but 'how' do we explain George Washington being a master mason?
This is a great question. By all accounts, GW was a really good guy.
Were there good masons and bad masons then?
If you look at the Washington Monument, it is clearly an erect penis. Just the sort of thing that Mason perverts love to do.
Like Amazon's logo.
Like his penis-shaped spaceship.
But the Constitution is the biggest pain the ass ever created for the Cabal. That woman in Norway is going to prison for saying men can't be lesbians.
In the USA, I could say that all day long. I would get banned from Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, but nobody could put me in prison for it.
So it seems like the Founding Fathers had their shit together and were protecting us. They knew that government needed to be held back like a pack of wild dogs.
So I don't have an answer to your question. It is a mystery.
appreciate the answer/brainstorming, think the freemasons are a big key to what's going on, so good to discuss. and yes, I've read positives about GW; he prayed A LOT, and loved his country; had a grand vision for America, so hard to believe he was into the depravity.
and speaking of Washington Monument, it seems like George Washington at Mt. Rushmore is 'looking' at the monument in DC. so definitely think it was planned that way by Borglum and Norbeck (both freemasons & seemed like patriots, but who knows at this point)
Norbeck personally mapped out iron mountain road, it's 17 miles long.
Nothing about the vesica pisces around it seems vaguely reminiscent of a vagina either? This documentary will change your mind. Fair warning, it's longer than my Washington monument shaped cock.
It's an obelisk, though not a true one because the real ones are made of one piece of stone, but an obelisk is a representation of Osiris' missing cock. It's literally a cock.
As someone already mentioned it has a vesica picis around it, which is very directly a pussy.
It takes a Mason to know a Mason. Then you write up a perfect document that will ensure they could never take over the world again. Because you know what to put on the paper.
edit: Why was Trump's name on the Lolita Express manifest?
Trump never flew on the Lolita express, he hitched a ride on one of Epstein's smaller planes from New York to Mara Lago or vise versa. But nice try dude.
Because the timeline negates it. When he flew it was before Epstein had ever been charged with anything. Obviously can’t know if someone is a pervert. Do you go telling all your baggage to people you don’t know well? Ever took a taxi with a stranger? All the same concepts
The Washington Monument is an obelisk, a monumental shape that dates to the Egyptians. It is the most economical way to achieve a towering monument with a minimum of material and effort. If you have a penis like that, I know some nice cacti you might want to go out with.
If anything, the existence of George Washington is a refutation of this Evil-Freemason myth.
The revolutionary war was a controlled demolition, as all wars are. “They” controlled both sides from their ten square miles in the City of London.
The founding fathers, like all contumate freemasons, believed liberty to be unworkable. By 1776, the evils of money magick were well known. Yet, it was not prohibited in the constitution like other methods of subverting a nation. Later, freemasons from France gifted the lady liberty statue to America. France’s “lady liberty” had been sacrificed in the Russian winter in the Napoleonic wars, after which the freemasons took control of the country. Many evils arose from this time. Consider Pasteur, a freemason, whose idiotic germ theory beat out Christian Deschamp’s terrain theory, which is the correct theory. So anyway, the founding fathers and the french who gave America the statue all intended for America’s lady liberty to be the biggest sacrifice of a figurative “virgin” ever, to ring in the new age.
And how would America’s lady liberty have been sacrificed? In the Russian (nuclear) winter, just like the French, just like the Germans (Hitler was a member of the club too, eh? Led all the patriotic Germans do die… where?)
Anyone history remembers fondly was a cabal shithead.
thanks for the details! didn't realize that about London and the revolutionary War, will give me something else to add to my research list. also need to find out more about the terrain theory, been thinking about such things; why some people never get sick, etc. President Trump is a fan of Power of Positive Thinking, belive that has something to do with it. he knows 'germs' can't really affect him; they're not in his realm.
I’ve felt that way lately, everyone at work and home getting sick over and over, and me not at all. I sometimes feel a cold coming on and will it to stop, and it fucking does. No idea what to make of it. Remember the ‘98 film “sphere”?
I don't watch a lot of movies, but sounds interesting, I also try to 'will' illness away. had a stroke the summer of 2016, taught me a lot about mind/body, and now wonder if 'death' is a trap/choice, you can will your body not to give in, at least until you understand eternity with Jesus.
yes, and think that's why President Trump was a fan of the Power of Positive Thinking, and why he can eat Big Macs everyday; he's doesn't 'believe' that they're bad.
In addition, freemasons believe they are the true patriots. In order to bring about the Great Society the ends justify the means. They are the enlightened ones and the rest who refuse the doctrine are like goyim. And our end is rationalized.
There is a Lodge in almost every town with a post office. Their orders are not based on our Constitution. They are global and it is seditious.
Really? The worst scum ever? Many Democrats are right out in the open with their sedition and perversion, but you wont condemn them as the worst? You reserve that insult for "hidden" natures, and offer nothing to back it up.
All I'm asking is for you to show me, what a legitimate Freemason is doing that makes you hate them so.
And I'm asking because you are calling my friends and family members scum. Why would you do this? They've never done ANYTHING to you.
It's apt that you used the word imaginable, because you offer nothing but what is apparently bizarre ideas floating around in your head, and no verifiable actions in the real world.
You expose yourself, sir, and your lack of discernment and logic.
Mmm hmm. Freemason pushback is always the most polite and well-reasoned.
This isn't the first time I've said something that brought you guys out of the woodwork.
You will not win this with gaslighting. We have your number. We might not fully understand how it all fits together, but your reputation as Freemasons is already ruined. Arguing with me isn't going to change anything.
You have whose number? All you have are fevered suspicions and Youtube videos of others with unfounded suspicions.
That is your number. And if you wish to convince me otherwise, you may offer evidence. You probably have written me off for merely questioning your assertions.
Having your mind set, despite the strength of any opposing argument, is true ignorance and prejudice. And you admit to that personality flaw. If it is your choice to live that life, it's not my place to change you. But perhaps you would like to convince other readers of this forum that you are correct, and not simply a bull-headed lunatic?
I'm no where near like the top anon researchers in this community, but in a Q forum I think it's safe to say we need to be thinking a lot deeper than democrats vs. republicans. There's Fox news and Newsmax for that controlled opposition diversion.
Please consider watching parts 1 through 4 of "The Fall of the Cabal - The Sequel" here:
I think anyone who keeps an open mind will gain a new fundamental prism for viewing world events through after watching this if they weren't already exposed to this material.
The article you've linked to shows exactly two men wearing the Masonic square and compasses. Not most shootings, not several. There is also an image of an event with police presence, that shows a random vehicle with the symbol. We don't know whose truck, we don't know where, when, or why. We can suppose that the tv news editor wanted to display that image and attach it to shooting event, but without knowing who inserted that image, we have little to go on. Have you done any research about who videoed that truck, and who put it on tv?
If instead there was a Q WWG1WGA sticker on the truck, would it then be reasonable to assume that "qanon" believers were involved in the shooting?
Which Freemasons? Which orders? Who are you talking about? Is it your assumption that the two men wearing Freemason symbols shown in pictures posted by Q are involved in mass shootings?
Yea I have secret meetings, only allowing “members” to enter. Once we’re done with our ceremonies, we say nothing of what was just witnessed or talked about.
Totally trusted.
What’s done in secret will be brought to the light. To bad for your family. Repent to Jesus Christ.
This oath is about revelaing the secrets entrusted to FM's within the lodge, all of which are pretty much related to passwords that reveal what level they are, and all of these words are already available on the net.
It is also made perfectly clear that this is a symbolic penalty that is no longer applicable, apart from the bit where if you reveal their secrets you will be considered a willfully perjured individual..
Since all these things are widely known outside of FM, the only reason for the oath is to validate whether you are a man of your word, that's it.
Of course not. They are cannon fodder. The bottom tier may see only one ‘favor’ come their way. A contract, for example. You know, picking a FM construction for gov. work, a denial of a non FM for city council. Have you heard of, “Death by a thousand paper cuts?” You don’t need assassins for paper cuts.
It’s civilized gang stalking.
The golden circle !== freemasonry. They supported slavery and wanted it to be legal. Basically the opposite side of the coin in regards to FM at that point in time. It was a democrat Secret society
I see where you are going with all this, and to be brutally honest I have suspicions about the side degrees and their possible use of regular FM as a cover, but to tar all FM's with the same brush is unjust.
Reading "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison cleared up a lot of the confusion of "good mason" vs "bad mason". It was written in 1798 by a freemason who was a Christian who hated to see his men's club turned into a cabal tool:
tldr, masons used to be non political, then they were infiltrated by the bavarian illuminati/other cabal types, and now they use the historic reputation of good masons as a cover for cabal recruiting/secret activity.
As an example, I have heard the story many times about the test where a mason is ordered to spit on the bible. No matter whether the mason does so or refuses, they are told that they did the right thing. The one who refuses is not told about the funkier stuff. The one who does spit is brought into cabal stuff slowly. Both responders think they are doing the "real" freemasonry.
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. -JFK
'Pertinent facts' is really a key phrase in that quote; as are the words 'excessive' and 'unwarranted'. So not all secrecy is abhorrent; take for example the time and location of the invasion of France in WW2.
But this quote is all too often glommed onto simply because JFK is put on a pedestal due to his cause of death.
I wonder if JFK had any secrets. No, I'm sure he was a real stand-up guy.
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings.
JFK died exposing evil. One of the most heroic men in history. Fuck freemasonry.
He most likely was assassinated by the CIA because he was addicted to pain-killing drug cocktails, provided by Dr Max Jacobson, which the Soviets knew about, and they put women around him to gather intelligence when he was hopped up on those drugs.
It took me several kids sports practices to get through this, but please watch at least 30 minutes and get back to us about what the Freemasons are REALLY up to.
I've watched that video before, and I have no reason to doubt that the guy believes everything he says, but as God is my witness I have never encountered anything of the sort with any Freemason I have met.
I've seen the x-factor video. A lot of unrelated conspiracy-type info.
Can you sum up what a legitimate FREEMASON is really up to, perhaps some bulletpoints - the top three things that one specific LEGIT FREEMASON is doing that you find unacceptable?
There are real conspiracies, and they can be proven. And there are real Freemasons, who attend real lodge meetings which are widely publicized.
Now all you have to do is connect the dots, if in fact there is any overlap.
Do not be content in being a victim to the imaginary conspiracies. It's all too easy to use the suspected conspiracies as a shield for holding real individuals accountable for their crimes.
Technically we even have to be careful with the Bible, which has been re-written over and over, in NUMEROUS (inaccurate) translations, even with many things intentionally left out. Light isn't just God, but also refers to LUCIFER- the light bringer. "Let there be light"? And it the world that was given to satan to rule? I have been praying for more clarity and understanding of the Bible, but I am feeling more and more that it was meant to deceive us and divide us than anything. And I am NOT talking about the Heavenly Father and Jesus; the Bible is a man-made creation, just as are the churches.
If you want a better understanding of the foundational myth behind the vast majority of religions (and thus potentially understand the relations between them and the war against them better), you should consider reading Manly P. Hall's the Secret Teachings of All Ages. It systematically goes through the religions and shows how behind them all was always an attempt to make humans realize the eternal power for good within each person, and that though they are all bound to die, they can participate in the great plan of good for the entire universe that is shared by all of us. This is what being "born again" is about, and was the foundation of all mystery religions that kept society together and functional. Dying to your ego so you can work for the betterment of ALL instead of yourself.
All of these posts about how freemasonry is evil are ignorant.
If you learn the history of FM you'll see that it condenses all of the Western mystery traditions and the ideals of the enlightenment into a fraternity of brotherhood and charity, with mutual acknowledgement of a single true God.
At its core, it is about bringing good men into the brotherhood of good men as a rite of passage and agreement to work together for the betterment of their community. Always has been.
Certainly there is a subversive faction of people within its ranks, but that is not what FM is.
Even the Vatican has been infiltrated by the cabal so don't pretend just because a few Masons are in the cabal, or that it has gotten all tied up in strange occult circles over the years, that you know anything about this 400+ year old fraternity.
There is no oath to lie. And certainly no oath to treason of one's country or constitution. Only to keep the secret passcodes of the club.
You're mixing FM symbols and lore with other occult cabal factions, and Q is partially to blame for tying the group to false flag shootings for unknown reasons, by try not to be too tinfoil hat against something with over 2 million upstanding members in this country, which was founded and erected along the ideals and structure of the Lodge where members hold office but in equality, respect, and brotherhood.
Secret societies are ungodly, period end of story. Especially societies with an oath of silence regardless of the consequence for breaking that oath. Interesting thing is, regardless of what you find as the truth about the FMs, the public will learn about the FM and they will be incredibly upset about it. Your PR on this board won't change that, good luck with the Great Awakening.
Actually, I don't think that this is the oath of a first degree FM. I can't prove it, but I think I remember reading that this oath occurs later when you're identified as someone who would be a good fit for the cabal FM.
Also, FM's who have joined and who know nothing of the cabal infiltration will never believe or be convinced that their fraternal order is cabal.
Evil to the core. Its all based on elitist pride; you many be a non-entity but join the brotherhood and you are elevated to a superior society. And you get so many privileges, laws don't apply, and even if someone takes you to court you are bound to win.
If I found out any actual evidence of what people are describing I would be the first to denounce them and attempt to rally decent people to purge them from the ranks.
He lays it out pretty well. Then consider that this book was given to every Scottish Rite freemason up until the 1970s iirc. How can you FM apologists say "we just don't do stuff like that" when it's right there in black and white?
I have. The problem is that I have yet to witness anything that resembles anything he describes, and believe me I am on the lookout for double meanings all the time.
Reading all these comments for the last half hour… I feel like I just read a paper on Scientology narrated by Leah Remini. So many levels, secrets, false flags… who’s making this documentary? I’d buy it .
The masons are the deceivers. They pretend to be upstanding citizens, but they are not. Unlike others in the hierarchy, they are very careful to keep their true nature hidden. They have their own oaths and loyalties that supersede any oaths taken by Law Enforcement or Office. Masons are the worst scum ever and I hope we can find a way to never be victimized by them again.
I totally understand this^ the freemasons are a shady bunch.
but 'how' do we explain George Washington being a master mason? there were also a lot of masons involved in planning Mt. Rushmore, etc.
And i just found out Pa Ingalls was a Mason.
in tiny little DeSmet SD.
was he a satanist too?
there's a book about it, called Little Lodges on the Prairie. I'll have to read it.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22619423-little-lodges-on-the-prairie
The freemasons were infiltrated by Adam Weishaupt's new club "the Illuminati" shortly after its formation --- also in 1776. And the illuminati members came from the Jesuits, sabatean-frankists and other age-old secret societies as well.
thanks for the details, explains a lot, I forgot about Weishaupt, etc. need to find a good graphic to sort it out, so I remember who's who.
For more details, check out "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison. Written in 1798 by a freemason who was a Christian who hated to see his men's club turned into a cabal tool:
https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/PROOFS_OF_A_CONSPIRACY_John_Robison.pdf
thanks!! this will be really helpful, exactly the kind of material I like to read. older the better.
I love older stuff too. Let me know if you have anything I should check out. :)
This is a great question. By all accounts, GW was a really good guy.
Were there good masons and bad masons then?
If you look at the Washington Monument, it is clearly an erect penis. Just the sort of thing that Mason perverts love to do.
Like Amazon's logo.
Like his penis-shaped spaceship.
But the Constitution is the biggest pain the ass ever created for the Cabal. That woman in Norway is going to prison for saying men can't be lesbians.
In the USA, I could say that all day long. I would get banned from Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, but nobody could put me in prison for it.
So it seems like the Founding Fathers had their shit together and were protecting us. They knew that government needed to be held back like a pack of wild dogs.
So I don't have an answer to your question. It is a mystery.
appreciate the answer/brainstorming, think the freemasons are a big key to what's going on, so good to discuss. and yes, I've read positives about GW; he prayed A LOT, and loved his country; had a grand vision for America, so hard to believe he was into the depravity.
and speaking of Washington Monument, it seems like George Washington at Mt. Rushmore is 'looking' at the monument in DC. so definitely think it was planned that way by Borglum and Norbeck (both freemasons & seemed like patriots, but who knows at this point)
Norbeck personally mapped out iron mountain road, it's 17 miles long.
https://www.travelsouthdakota.com/trip-ideas/photo-essay/iron-mountain-road
https://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/3997-iron-mountain-road.html
I’m not really convinced that monolith is shaped like a penis anymore than a church steeple.
https://youtu.be/DHhgLnIvuAs
Nothing about the vesica pisces around it seems vaguely reminiscent of a vagina either? This documentary will change your mind. Fair warning, it's longer than my Washington monument shaped cock.
I’ll take a look, hopefully I won’t regret it lmao
It's an obelisk, though not a true one because the real ones are made of one piece of stone, but an obelisk is a representation of Osiris' missing cock. It's literally a cock.
As someone already mentioned it has a vesica picis around it, which is very directly a pussy.
Dig into Sacred Geometry a bit maybe.
Will do, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Iirc correctly the pharaohs used to ritually Jack off in the Nile as a fertility ritual.
It takes a Mason to know a Mason. Then you write up a perfect document that will ensure they could never take over the world again. Because you know what to put on the paper.
edit: Why was Trump's name on the Lolita Express manifest?
Trump never flew on the Lolita express, he hitched a ride on one of Epstein's smaller planes from New York to Mara Lago or vise versa. But nice try dude.
Ok. Strike the "Lolita Express" and add "Epstein's airplane".
How does that negate the bottom line? My point was ultimately regarding George Washington.
"nice try, dude"
Because the timeline negates it. When he flew it was before Epstein had ever been charged with anything. Obviously can’t know if someone is a pervert. Do you go telling all your baggage to people you don’t know well? Ever took a taxi with a stranger? All the same concepts
Become your enemy....
Be as wise as a serpent, but as harmless as a dove.
The Washington Monument is an obelisk, a monumental shape that dates to the Egyptians. It is the most economical way to achieve a towering monument with a minimum of material and effort. If you have a penis like that, I know some nice cacti you might want to go out with.
If anything, the existence of George Washington is a refutation of this Evil-Freemason myth.
The revolutionary war was a controlled demolition, as all wars are. “They” controlled both sides from their ten square miles in the City of London.
The founding fathers, like all contumate freemasons, believed liberty to be unworkable. By 1776, the evils of money magick were well known. Yet, it was not prohibited in the constitution like other methods of subverting a nation. Later, freemasons from France gifted the lady liberty statue to America. France’s “lady liberty” had been sacrificed in the Russian winter in the Napoleonic wars, after which the freemasons took control of the country. Many evils arose from this time. Consider Pasteur, a freemason, whose idiotic germ theory beat out Christian Deschamp’s terrain theory, which is the correct theory. So anyway, the founding fathers and the french who gave America the statue all intended for America’s lady liberty to be the biggest sacrifice of a figurative “virgin” ever, to ring in the new age.
And how would America’s lady liberty have been sacrificed? In the Russian (nuclear) winter, just like the French, just like the Germans (Hitler was a member of the club too, eh? Led all the patriotic Germans do die… where?)
Anyone history remembers fondly was a cabal shithead.
thanks for the details! didn't realize that about London and the revolutionary War, will give me something else to add to my research list. also need to find out more about the terrain theory, been thinking about such things; why some people never get sick, etc. President Trump is a fan of Power of Positive Thinking, belive that has something to do with it. he knows 'germs' can't really affect him; they're not in his realm.
I’ve felt that way lately, everyone at work and home getting sick over and over, and me not at all. I sometimes feel a cold coming on and will it to stop, and it fucking does. No idea what to make of it. Remember the ‘98 film “sphere”?
I don't watch a lot of movies, but sounds interesting, I also try to 'will' illness away. had a stroke the summer of 2016, taught me a lot about mind/body, and now wonder if 'death' is a trap/choice, you can will your body not to give in, at least until you understand eternity with Jesus.
Placebo effect, longtime spouses dying within hours of one another, etc. Belief plays a huge role.
yes, and think that's why President Trump was a fan of the Power of Positive Thinking, and why he can eat Big Macs everyday; he's doesn't 'believe' that they're bad.
As for the founding father stuff, check out Bill Cooper Mystery Babylon
If you ever got to see the pages of a Freemason bible, you would understand how true your comment is.
In addition, freemasons believe they are the true patriots. In order to bring about the Great Society the ends justify the means. They are the enlightened ones and the rest who refuse the doctrine are like goyim. And our end is rationalized. There is a Lodge in almost every town with a post office. Their orders are not based on our Constitution. They are global and it is seditious.
Really? The worst scum ever? Many Democrats are right out in the open with their sedition and perversion, but you wont condemn them as the worst? You reserve that insult for "hidden" natures, and offer nothing to back it up.
All I'm asking is for you to show me, what a legitimate Freemason is doing that makes you hate them so.
And I'm asking because you are calling my friends and family members scum. Why would you do this? They've never done ANYTHING to you.
SCUM
Irrational.
SCUM
We've got your number now. All the secrecy isn't just silly stuff. It is the worst stuff imaginable. Freemasons are scum.
It's apt that you used the word imaginable, because you offer nothing but what is apparently bizarre ideas floating around in your head, and no verifiable actions in the real world.
You expose yourself, sir, and your lack of discernment and logic.
Mmm hmm. Freemason pushback is always the most polite and well-reasoned.
This isn't the first time I've said something that brought you guys out of the woodwork.
You will not win this with gaslighting. We have your number. We might not fully understand how it all fits together, but your reputation as Freemasons is already ruined. Arguing with me isn't going to change anything.
You have whose number? All you have are fevered suspicions and Youtube videos of others with unfounded suspicions.
That is your number. And if you wish to convince me otherwise, you may offer evidence. You probably have written me off for merely questioning your assertions. Having your mind set, despite the strength of any opposing argument, is true ignorance and prejudice. And you admit to that personality flaw. If it is your choice to live that life, it's not my place to change you. But perhaps you would like to convince other readers of this forum that you are correct, and not simply a bull-headed lunatic?
I'm no where near like the top anon researchers in this community, but in a Q forum I think it's safe to say we need to be thinking a lot deeper than democrats vs. republicans. There's Fox news and Newsmax for that controlled opposition diversion.
Please consider watching parts 1 through 4 of "The Fall of the Cabal - The Sequel" here:
https://stopworldcontrol.com/cabal/
I think anyone who keeps an open mind will gain a new fundamental prism for viewing world events through after watching this if they weren't already exposed to this material.
Q told us in post 1630, I think that is a Freemason symbol. He is obviously making the connection.
https://qanon.pub/#1630
Here is a article with eyewitnesses from several shooting all sporting the Freemason symbol, its not coincidence.
https://jordansather.substack.com/p/another-day-another-false-flag-shooting?s=r
The article you've linked to shows exactly two men wearing the Masonic square and compasses. Not most shootings, not several. There is also an image of an event with police presence, that shows a random vehicle with the symbol. We don't know whose truck, we don't know where, when, or why. We can suppose that the tv news editor wanted to display that image and attach it to shooting event, but without knowing who inserted that image, we have little to go on. Have you done any research about who videoed that truck, and who put it on tv?
If instead there was a Q WWG1WGA sticker on the truck, would it then be reasonable to assume that "qanon" believers were involved in the shooting?
You are welcome to your opinion about so-called secret societies. But your argument lacks enough foundation to be convincing. Which lie? Told by whom?
Which Freemasons? Which orders? Who are you talking about? Is it your assumption that the two men wearing Freemason symbols shown in pictures posted by Q are involved in mass shootings?
Yea I have secret meetings, only allowing “members” to enter. Once we’re done with our ceremonies, we say nothing of what was just witnessed or talked about.
Totally trusted.
What’s done in secret will be brought to the light. To bad for your family. Repent to Jesus Christ.
But what are you alleging is being done wrong? You have absolutely nothing. Just a spirit of suspicion. "Do unto others..."
Straight up trash. Don't care what the lower end guys reason with their volunteer work. All it does is create a cover up for the filth above them.
And wear rings with it.
Irony: "So help me God"
And they proudly drive around with their symbols on their cars...
FFS.
This oath is about revelaing the secrets entrusted to FM's within the lodge, all of which are pretty much related to passwords that reveal what level they are, and all of these words are already available on the net.
It is also made perfectly clear that this is a symbolic penalty that is no longer applicable, apart from the bit where if you reveal their secrets you will be considered a willfully perjured individual..
Since all these things are widely known outside of FM, the only reason for the oath is to validate whether you are a man of your word, that's it.
Do you have any examples? Again, none of the FM's I've met seem like they are rogue assassins or something.
I agree.... My FIL was a FM and he was one of the finest Christian men I've ever known....
Of course not. They are cannon fodder. The bottom tier may see only one ‘favor’ come their way. A contract, for example. You know, picking a FM construction for gov. work, a denial of a non FM for city council. Have you heard of, “Death by a thousand paper cuts?” You don’t need assassins for paper cuts. It’s civilized gang stalking.
The golden circle !== freemasonry. They supported slavery and wanted it to be legal. Basically the opposite side of the coin in regards to FM at that point in time. It was a democrat Secret society
I'm assuming that's a side degree of some sort.
Ok, I'll counter with the Boston Tea Party :)
Was it? Not sure I've ever read that.
I see where you are going with all this, and to be brutally honest I have suspicions about the side degrees and their possible use of regular FM as a cover, but to tar all FM's with the same brush is unjust.
Reading "Proofs of a Conspiracy" by John Robison cleared up a lot of the confusion of "good mason" vs "bad mason". It was written in 1798 by a freemason who was a Christian who hated to see his men's club turned into a cabal tool:
https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/PROOFS_OF_A_CONSPIRACY_John_Robison.pdf
tldr, masons used to be non political, then they were infiltrated by the bavarian illuminati/other cabal types, and now they use the historic reputation of good masons as a cover for cabal recruiting/secret activity.
As an example, I have heard the story many times about the test where a mason is ordered to spit on the bible. No matter whether the mason does so or refuses, they are told that they did the right thing. The one who refuses is not told about the funkier stuff. The one who does spit is brought into cabal stuff slowly. Both responders think they are doing the "real" freemasonry.
So we should stop celebrating the likes of George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and Paul Revere then?
I imagine there are a lot of people buried in rough sands with their throats cut out and no tongues.
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there are two schools of freemasonry. Do some research. The right hand and left hand paths
This is not true. A promise to lie would be outrageous. No one would sign up for that.
You simply speak from ignorance.
Stop trying to condemn people by association. Show nefarious actions, and condemn those.
Accusing based on insinuation and slander is a work of iniquity.
Specifics. Evidence. Reason.
It's not that hard to be a decent human being.
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. -JFK
P.S. The secret is faggot.
'Pertinent facts' is really a key phrase in that quote; as are the words 'excessive' and 'unwarranted'. So not all secrecy is abhorrent; take for example the time and location of the invasion of France in WW2.
But this quote is all too often glommed onto simply because JFK is put on a pedestal due to his cause of death.
I wonder if JFK had any secrets. No, I'm sure he was a real stand-up guy.
The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings.
JFK died exposing evil. One of the most heroic men in history. Fuck freemasonry.
He most likely was assassinated by the CIA because he was addicted to pain-killing drug cocktails, provided by Dr Max Jacobson, which the Soviets knew about, and they put women around him to gather intelligence when he was hopped up on those drugs.
It took me several kids sports practices to get through this, but please watch at least 30 minutes and get back to us about what the Freemasons are REALLY up to.
The Secret Religion.
I've watched that video before, and I have no reason to doubt that the guy believes everything he says, but as God is my witness I have never encountered anything of the sort with any Freemason I have met.
Anything beyond 3rd degree isn't freemasonry. They're all 'side degrees', basically clubs you can join if you are a freemason.
So yes, being a FM is a pre-req, but they aren't official freemasonry.
I've seen the x-factor video. A lot of unrelated conspiracy-type info.
Can you sum up what a legitimate FREEMASON is really up to, perhaps some bulletpoints - the top three things that one specific LEGIT FREEMASON is doing that you find unacceptable?
Demonstrate the lie.
Sussman was accused of lying, and Durham didn't just claim it, he showed evidence, so we all knew that Durham was correct.
There are real conspiracies, and they can be proven. And there are real Freemasons, who attend real lodge meetings which are widely publicized.
Now all you have to do is connect the dots, if in fact there is any overlap.
Do not be content in being a victim to the imaginary conspiracies. It's all too easy to use the suspected conspiracies as a shield for holding real individuals accountable for their crimes.
Might not want to pay attention to all the masonic symbolism in the Q posts then.
Darkness to Light (the very foundational idea of freemasonry) 11.3 11/11 posts
much, much more
Technically we even have to be careful with the Bible, which has been re-written over and over, in NUMEROUS (inaccurate) translations, even with many things intentionally left out. Light isn't just God, but also refers to LUCIFER- the light bringer. "Let there be light"? And it the world that was given to satan to rule? I have been praying for more clarity and understanding of the Bible, but I am feeling more and more that it was meant to deceive us and divide us than anything. And I am NOT talking about the Heavenly Father and Jesus; the Bible is a man-made creation, just as are the churches.
If you want a better understanding of the foundational myth behind the vast majority of religions (and thus potentially understand the relations between them and the war against them better), you should consider reading Manly P. Hall's the Secret Teachings of All Ages. It systematically goes through the religions and shows how behind them all was always an attempt to make humans realize the eternal power for good within each person, and that though they are all bound to die, they can participate in the great plan of good for the entire universe that is shared by all of us. This is what being "born again" is about, and was the foundation of all mystery religions that kept society together and functional. Dying to your ego so you can work for the betterment of ALL instead of yourself.
All of these posts about how freemasonry is evil are ignorant.
If you learn the history of FM you'll see that it condenses all of the Western mystery traditions and the ideals of the enlightenment into a fraternity of brotherhood and charity, with mutual acknowledgement of a single true God.
At its core, it is about bringing good men into the brotherhood of good men as a rite of passage and agreement to work together for the betterment of their community. Always has been.
Certainly there is a subversive faction of people within its ranks, but that is not what FM is.
Even the Vatican has been infiltrated by the cabal so don't pretend just because a few Masons are in the cabal, or that it has gotten all tied up in strange occult circles over the years, that you know anything about this 400+ year old fraternity.
There is no oath to lie. And certainly no oath to treason of one's country or constitution. Only to keep the secret passcodes of the club.
You're mixing FM symbols and lore with other occult cabal factions, and Q is partially to blame for tying the group to false flag shootings for unknown reasons, by try not to be too tinfoil hat against something with over 2 million upstanding members in this country, which was founded and erected along the ideals and structure of the Lodge where members hold office but in equality, respect, and brotherhood.
Secret societies are ungodly, period end of story. Especially societies with an oath of silence regardless of the consequence for breaking that oath. Interesting thing is, regardless of what you find as the truth about the FMs, the public will learn about the FM and they will be incredibly upset about it. Your PR on this board won't change that, good luck with the Great Awakening.
I remember that drop but it doesn't condemn the whole group or the institution is all I'm saying
Actually, I don't think that this is the oath of a first degree FM. I can't prove it, but I think I remember reading that this oath occurs later when you're identified as someone who would be a good fit for the cabal FM.
Also, FM's who have joined and who know nothing of the cabal infiltration will never believe or be convinced that their fraternal order is cabal.
Evil to the core. Its all based on elitist pride; you many be a non-entity but join the brotherhood and you are elevated to a superior society. And you get so many privileges, laws don't apply, and even if someone takes you to court you are bound to win.
Aaand a downvote from a FM! LOL!
You're just wrong. FM's are told that to use FM membership as a means to obtain privileges are grounds for expulsion.
LOL!
Seriously. I'm not claiming it doesn't happen, but it shouldn't.
There's a LOT about them that shouldn't.
That could very well be the case. Assuming it is, then the vast majority of Freemasons aren't evil then, are they?
If I found out any actual evidence of what people are describing I would be the first to denounce them and attempt to rally decent people to purge them from the ranks.
What no-one has (yet) been able to explain to me is how people outside of Freemasonry know so much more about it than actual FM's.
If someone were to join to try an expose all that you say, how would you suggest they go about it?
Odd that in 4 years I have never heard those words, or any other words to that effect, but I guess you know best.
He lays it out pretty well. Then consider that this book was given to every Scottish Rite freemason up until the 1970s iirc. How can you FM apologists say "we just don't do stuff like that" when it's right there in black and white?
I have. The problem is that I have yet to witness anything that resembles anything he describes, and believe me I am on the lookout for double meanings all the time.
It's the secret club for the grown men that decided they don't get enough special, alone-time, grab-ass games with their buddies.
George Washington was a Freemason and went against the crown. Were they always evil, or corrupted after the 33rd degree was introduced?
So help me god?
I thought it was for gnosticism
Op might have meant Gnosis.
I said it around a mason once and their ears perked up instantly.
They have to do some stuff before they reach that level, but yes, they make you swear an oath to protect the group.
Criminal Booty buddies.
Why would people want to join an organization who threatened this?
Reading all these comments for the last half hour… I feel like I just read a paper on Scientology narrated by Leah Remini. So many levels, secrets, false flags… who’s making this documentary? I’d buy it .