Telegram is the only place where you can find reslly good info about the Russian war very quckly. You can see various Russian accounts, translate their text, and even sub to the Russian MoD and Russian PMCs directly. Im not saying its propaganda free but theres tons of irrefutable videos and other stuff, very good info.
If theres gonna be a False flag event in Ukraine then the last thing they want is a bunch of smart people on Telegram sharing videos of what actually happened with the false flag.
All this stuff about Telegram being owned by the CCP is true but its not new information so ask why is it coming out now? If people were being posisoned why be absolutely weird about it? Why wouldn't there be a concise easy to understand video outlining whats going on? Because that doesnt make people as afraid as vague crap.
They cant censor telegram like they can censor Twitter and Facebook. There isnt big populations of Russians putting out this info on messaging apps like discord so theres no reason to get people off that. So they push out this fear tactic about Telegram so people will delete it becauae they know the false flag is coming, and they know good info about it will be on Telegram
Remeber fear is the DS best ally, if you are operating out of a fear base and doing things because youre afraid, then youre getting caught up in a psyop and being played.
This could only be true if Catherine Engelbrecht, Gregg Phillips, and the whole True the Vote team are DS agents.
Is there any evidence to support that? There is plenty of evidence to the contrary.
this. they are not DS...which is why FBI is going after them.
Telegram is just spyware is what they are saying, and it has to do with Konnech. so if you dont care if China sees what you post, or where you are located...then keep it. if that bothers you, delete it.
I think you can do good things in this movement and still have other interests. Thats why we were warned "careful who you follow".
Ever since that split with Lin Wood and Mike Flynn (and WTM). You see many things on Telegram. Some is anti-Flynn, some is anti-Lin, and I have seen some anti-Gregg things on there too.
So I found it really suspicious of Gregg to demand everyone get off Telegram. I'd rather let anything bad they have to say about him stand up to evidence and public scrutiny.
Like, I've seen pictures of Gregg in drag when he was in the military on Telegram. Sure thats funny, but it's doesn't stop his Mule evidence from being correct, you know?
Again, I'd rather let anything bad they have to say about him stand up to evidence and public scrutiny.
He didn't demand. He advised. Big difference.
Doesn't sound like a command at all, eh?
Very different from "you can take the vaccine if you want to."
When you say people are getting poisoned, that's more dire than say, "you should take daily Vitamin C."
His evidence will prove what people think of him, but don't try to play this down like he didn't use fear, whether intentional or on accident.
"Do not take the Jab!" and "Everyone MUST have a treatment of Ivermectin! Are not commends, they are dire warnings wich you can choose to follow or not.
How can you be so sure they aren't DS? And they don't have to be DS to fall for a DS psyop.
We all have fallen for them in the past.
Cause Trump and Dinesh Dosuza are best buds.
If Dinesh wasnt a patriot why did Obummer lock him up and Trump got him out.
2000 miles was for all the normies.
Also telegram owned by WEF. Putin hates the maker and owner of telegram.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6SursEW/fuck-telegram-its-owned-by-pavel/
that would make Trump and Dinesh DS too...even ppl like larry elder and dennis prager deep state. not to mention people i greatly respect, like brian cates.
if TTV and greg phillips are deep state we are all fucked
Gregg doesn't have to be DS. More likely he is just a bit of a self-aggrandizing type who got played by the DS. He isn't the savior of the awakening.
i mean, i dont disagree with you....or agree with you. i just thinks attacks on him are silly at this point
You are right. Attacking him is pointless. And holding him up as the latest savior is equally pointless. He and TTV have made a contribution towards the Awakenings understanding of how vote fraud occurs. A few people may be prosecuted. Legislation against drop boxes will occur. But Gregg's efforts won't bring Trump back.
Oh yeah they couldn't possible have fallen for a deepstate psyop. They are infallible!
Who is more likely to be a nefarious actor: Gregg Phillips or Silo101?
WEF
Ahh yes my history on this site going back more then a year, with some pretty highly rated and personal posts and comments, is all just an act so that now I can push telegram.
You Gregg Phillips fellaters are fucking ridiculous. What's with this community and ther personality worship?
gregg phillips
Every single person downvoting you for just fucking ASKING... is exactly why I don't trust Gregg Phillips fans - nothing to do with Gregg Phillips himself.
His fans are Lin Wood army 2.0
Ask too many questions or SLIGHTLY imply something you'll get downvotes for days and blocked left and right on Truth Social.
Don't be discouraged. Every hardened anon has been through this a thousand times as you've said.
Check out my previous comments for additional research on Gregg and TTV.
Personally I'm sitting right at the tippy top edge of the fence.
NCSWIC and I ain't really worried about who they are in the end. God wins. Gregg and TTV are just a side quest.
whoever is downvoting this is fucking retarded
Or, could they just be good guys but wrong about Telegram?
We're all human here. Well, I think the Queen was a reptilian but I digress...
Exactly. They aren't infallible
They forget to mention any fucking app you install tracks you.
"All this stuff about Telegram being owned by the CCP is true..." ...sound of brakes locking into a Wu Mao skid...
Or they just have false information or are exaggerating something they don't know or understand.
But lately, Gregg Philips has been acting all faggy-like so... he could be a sleeper or misled. Either way, it's interesting how almost everyone expect Patel Patriot (that I have seen, anyway) who has tried to exploit us for money and fame starts getting faggity real fuckin quick as soon as they get popular...
By now we should see the pattern, and learn to apply that to our future political leaders. Men arise and make a solid contribution, but we shouldn't expect them to take the lead going forward absent extraordinary Trumpian leadership skills.
And transparency and putting the Constitution first.
I treat all of them as if they could be sleepers.
Even they would not know. They could have alters they aren't aware of.
Anything I have to download to use fully is automatically suspect to me.
If TikTok can get away with egregious tracking, I can only assume all other social media apps have done the same. Really, that Telegram is spying on people would not come as a surprise to me.
I think using Telegram isn't nearly as hazardous as posting on Telegram. They have little reason to track all users, but there is definitely a reason to track the people making the posts.
For one, you mention Russia information. If the people posting that information can be tracked, then it can lead to their sources. Ukraine and Globalists have good incentive to find those sources and take them out, especially if they are in Ukraine reporting on the ground. Even the people those on the ground have contact with probably should be using burner phones for everything, rather than worry about having Telegram or some other app on them.
You dont need to download anything. Your phone, tv, modem, and the internet itself was manufactered by the Deepstate, and mostly in China.
They track everything by default, this should be common sense.
Not entirely true, it is not tracked through the hardware but the software.
Maybe the extent they can track a phone through hardware is the ping to the telecommunications tower but they have to single out that it is you and use a lot of resources for a signal that is not the best quality. Google maps and your IP address is highly preferable to them.
There are alternatives to Google Android and Apple iOS like GrapheneOS. You can OSMap for driving, protonmail for email, and many other things to ween you off the big tech nipple.
But you're going to have to take some responsibility, read a some articles or watch videos, and not be a fucking victim or scream that those pointing you in the right direction are deep state actors.
There is most definitely hardware tracking, although all hardware requires at least firmware so there is a software component. Just not one that is always available to view or change.
Have a look at the whole clipper chip debacle. Also understand many countries try to interrupt a supply chain to add their own chips/firmware to devices to add backdoors. US does that, China does that, and I'm sure many others do. Think Cisco or Huawei routers.
Also you may have the greatest device ever with your own custom OS and end-to-end encryption but it has to connect to their stuff to communicate with everyone else. If you think they can't break the encryption then reconcile that with Hammer and Scorecard. "Their" toys are bigger than ours.
I don't think we will ever have any privacy anymore. Ever since the government tapped their first landline and saw the opportunities that gave them we haven't stood a chance.
That said - anything you can do to try to confuse them could possibly protect you from some local LEO with a stingray or something. Just not from the feds.
They can't break the encryption buddy otherwise they'd be able to see each others top military info too. Its all military grade encryption. They keep each others encrypted files just in case there's a breakthrough in encryption breaking techniques but they can't do it atm.
And have been since the 90's . Set up whenClinton was in office.
I believe this is another opportunity for discernment and logical thinking.
I believe that Telegram can be used to monitor/track us, but that is true for most things on the the interwebs.
I believe Telegram is extremely useful for finding information about what's happening in Ukraine/Russia.
I believe we can trust TTV and Greg Phillips, but we need to continually verify their information and actions. I'm thinking "...and we will know them by their fruit" considerations and logic.
I believe Russian telegram channels offer more evidence to support thier theories than almost all of Western media.
Dig, meme, pray 🙏
Re: Verify TTV. I went to the TTV website. A lot of it is kind of skimpy and lacking specifics. Mostly so general that you can fill in the blanks with what you want to hear. Beginning to wonder if they are a right wing version of the typical left wing charity that exists for a cause that people support, but is mostly a way to fund and stroke the egos of the self-aggrandizing managers.
If I recall, TTV's mission was always only about protecting the vote for everyone. I think some people believe they are a right-wing/conservative organization but they go after both sides when they see fraud. 2000 Mules probably harmed them a little by making the left label them as conservatives.
They may be - I don't know them - but they started as non-partisan.
Yes, I dug some more and I agree. TTV has been valuable pointing out how the drop boxes can be misused and I hope that will lead to legislation. It won't lead to mass arrests.
Did you know Trump was working with Catherine Engelbrecht right before the 2020 election?
Dude telegram is a privacy and security piece of shit.
Gregg Phillips is coming from an OPSEC background and telling you that it's shit.
It's all you dumbass peoples fault for making telegram the place to share Ukraine news in the first place.
Move your news sharing somewhere else, telegram and all of your phone numbers will likely get targeted by the deep state if it isn't already.
Lol. He didn't say it was shit at all. He said something cryptic and failed to provide, direct hard evidence. Just "delete thing now!"
This is the behavior of people who amass a following and try to exploit their clout. It's the same kind of tactic that caused the Scholfield Bible and King James to be considered "accurate" instead of relying on rational thought and analysis. Nothing good ever comes from being told to blind faith trust people. Thomas doubted and Jesus proved Himself and then forgave him. But instead evangelical faggots decided to coin the phrase, "doubting Thomas" to shame people from asking questions despite the fact that is directly in contention with the actual Character of Christ...
Point is, any time someone tells you to do something without questions, tell them to blow it out their ass and get fucked. Those who control or try to control the narrative are the bad guys. Plain and simple. I don't care how self righteous or "pure" someone's intentions are. Q is about questioning everything always so yeah, I get immediately suspicious of cryptic bullshit unless future proves past.
Seriously, Gregg couldn't have said, "this shit tracks you and the security is crap. Recommend you delete"?
Dang, GC...that's not at all accurate of what was said.
Yep. To make you not get spammers, you need to include all the privacy filters. That shit should be on out of the box. Yes garbage.
Lol it's the place to share Ukraine news use because it's popular in Russia and the owners don't police speech on it.
u/MAGAsoyboyslayer even spoonfed you a link showing you that Telegram is owned by WEF affiliated Russians.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6SursEW/fuck-telegram-its-owned-by-pavel/
Here is a video from OVER A YEAR AGO saying Telegram is spyware,
(May 17, 2021) Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. Don't Use Telegram. | Luke Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBTsUVrCDAQ
but the retards always move to the next shittiest platform once they get kicked of places like Fakebook and Twitdur. This after years of people warning about using those Social Media in the first place. Remember Parlor and Whatsapp when you've had Element available? You people are just so fucking stupid you're gonna have to have a massive censoring of the platform you're using to finally listen to everyone else and say "yeah this platform sucks" then you move on to something that's 95% as bad.
This is like a trap for mice that some of you keep falling for and when others tell you it's a trap you either say "it's a conspiracy theory" or "YOU'RE DEEP STATE ACTORS TRYING TO FALSE FLAG US". Seriously go read a book, do some 4th grade level research.
Ya Telegram turning into Parler. Parler got sold out and went to shit.
I don't trust any social media platform with my information right now.
I would get off telegram. Something very very fucking fishy is going on with it.
Last week I was catfished on a mobile dating app. Right off the bat I was suspicious due to the profile pictures looking a bit off, but she was hot as fuck and she liked me first, so of course I’m gonna bite.
We only talked for a minute or two before she said she liked me and wanted to talk on Telegram. Of course thats 100% bullshit, that’s just not how it works. Told her I didn’t have telegram and we eventually switched to Instagram. Then it gets weirder.
She tries to sell me on Telegram, with words right out of a commercial. Like she was reading a script, which she probably was. She was also some sort of Eastern European, I could tell by the verbiage. She words she choose and the order she put them. It was shockingly poorly hidden. She then said she couldn’t date me if I didn’t want to talk on Telegram. I blocked her and moved on.
There’s only one of two things here. I was targeted by someone who wanted me on telegram for a nefarious reason. Two, telegram is paying people to catfish dating sites to trick people into using it. Someone in Eastern Europe. Probably fucking Ukraine.
Get the fuck off it. Something weird is happening.
I mean, one could always just view the Russian channels on the web browser.. No one is saying not to use TG, but to delete the App
For the paranoid out there that is worried about tracking; you’ll never be rid of it completely because every real backdoor and tracking mechanism is baked into the hardware. They fear an awake population
Agreed.
Exactly. All our devices are mead ein China by DS owned companies.
Catherine Engelbrecht, Gregg Phillips, and the whole True the Vote team are NOT DS agents.
TELEGRAM APP tracks you and uses your IMEIs and logs locations.
YOU CAN use Telegram safely just delete the APP and use your phone's browser to access your account.!
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
He has his reasons and CE concurs, more going on then just simply slowing down the news on Ukraine.
dont really know how to react to your seeds of doubt here. if greg philips and true the vote cannot be trusted, then who can? can we trust you? why should we trust you? (I also thought telegram was one of the few sources for news on the russian military operation, but remember all the fraud accounts we fell for at election time.)
Actually having ur phone number attached is a no no, i have looked around and toxchat and getsessions.org is really good
Pretty much everything at this point is a psyop. Still-until proven otherwise-I trust yet verify TTV and Gregg.
Nah, bad take
They can’t censor truth social. This is dumb
Sorry some misspellings on here I typed this on mobile on my work break.
Guys,
Every free app will have some tracking. When you offer something for free.
Your business model will always be ads.
They cannot avoid this business model.
Telegram tracks your phone and location
They can see who you are and where you are and what you read
I guess its possible that blackhats set up a con to convince TTV et al that Telegram is compromised, in order to push folks off of telegram, but I don't see how GP and TTV themselves could consciously be DS assets.
On the other hand, concerns as voiced by GP and TTV re: telegram being a tracking instrument need to be contextualized, and that is what I think was so lacking.
Example: we have info that XXXX is tracking our people via Telegram, so if you have any concerns about this, better to get off telegram.
Needs to be contextualized. Possibly focused primarily on the TTV people and those who worked on the PIT specifically. In other words, approximately 0.002% of the telegram community.
If CCP or C_A are tracking patriots using telegram, prudence requires clarification on how they are doing this, targeting who, and how this differs from tracking by other means.
It tracks your phone locations! It tracks you everywhere???!!! Use on PC only or don't! Today I deleted the app on my phone. Simple as that.
Why attack True the Vote??????
Why is this pinned???
Sad!!!!!!
I'm hoping that this was pinned to draw out DS accounts here on GAW!! Crazy times!!
YES, THANK YOU
Have you looked on some of the other video platforms in competition with YT? There's a lot out there if you look for it.
Why not just use the desktop app? Let them track my home computer. Just don't put it on your phone.
I trust Gregg. Solid dude. Solid warning... Seems to me that this is now a debate brought to us by the shilly shills looking to divide.
What is being revealed is that there is a threat to being doxxed and located/tracked. Socialists, Commies and Nazis have an ugly habit of turning shit lists into hit lists. I think that about sums up the threat.
We see how J6 prisoners are treated. We see the suspicion of a nuclear false flag. After midterms are over, I see no reason for them to not go full authoritarian in the wake of nukes. Pure speculation here, I know. But; targeted dissidents (or "Russian sympathizers) disappearing in the middle of the night is not the kind of thing that is unheard of in the history books.
You were warned... heed the warning seems prudent and reasonable.
That is not true. There are many other homes where autists share their talents. Check out Clandestine on Substack for one. Telegram was handy, but it gave the enemy too much opportunity. There is always a price to pay.
Telegram is not the only place to get reasonably accurate Ukraine info. I follow a several on Telegram who cover this who also have TS accounts. Brian Cates, Just Human, and others who share this content like Pepe Lives Matter and Red Pill Pharmacist.
I agree that deleting Telegram is stupid. Every app, every website, every electronic device tracks you. Telegram isn’t the issue, but at the same time it’s not the only good platform for sharing info.
Pretty much every aspect of the anti telegram argument is applicable to 90% of the crap on your phone including the operating systems too.
So if we cut ties with telegram then we can just get data harvested by everything else, and miss out on any benefits…
Adding one point to this post. The entirety of the internet is operated on infrastructure owned and operated by the DS, and 99% of the devices we use to get on the internet were manufactured in the DS most controlled country China, plus the Internet was invented by DAARPA. If you think they need Telegram or any permissions on any app or anything other then your phone being connected to the internet to track you then you just haven't really thought about it hard enough.
Telegram probably selling the database ESN data. Good luck bro.
Anyone got some good Russian tele groups I can join to keep my eye on the war? I'd like to validate false flagd as propaganda and get banned a few places before they ramp up the war effort in America.
Intel Slava Z
They're definitely pro Russian but it's interesting to see how Russian Patriots are.
CIG Russia MOD is interesting.
Once you sub to onee they'll forward posts from others that are good.
Ty
You think trump and the military are going to let it get that far before they call it? Guess it depends on what you mean by soon, but I hope that's not part of The Plan. NCSWIC!! WWG1WGA!
Tons of Russia footage destroying Ukraine troops and showing the Nazi shit. Telegram is great.
If it was deep state controlled it would ban those channels.