BREAKING: Pentagon Confirms U.S. Troops Now ON THE GROUND In Ukraine!
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Did Congress ever declare war??
How is this happening right now?
They haven't declared war the Constitutional way since fucking WWII. Obama started bombing in Libya while Congress was out of session for Chst's sake. Pompous overlords.
The US followed the Constitutional process when declaring war on Iraq in both 1991 and 2003. But yes, outside of those instances it has been by executive fiat, like Vietnam and Libya. And each executive order has been supported by a false flag like the Gulf of Tonkin.
You're correct and I should have qualified those two exceptions. As you noted however, every instance whether enacted through executive command or the lawful process of Congressional War Powers, was based on propagation of a false narrative in conjunction with false flag events. All instances were known to be false and untrue from their genesis yet still pushed forward by the administration in power and happily repeated and spread by the media working hand in glove with them.
In a macro view, it would seem that the reasons for reverting to the War Powers method had less to do with any regard or concern for following the Constitutional process as was intended and more about properly selling the story to the citizens and preventing blowback or dissent. They likely cared more about justification in relationship to the scale of the conflict, preventing bicameral repudiation of ever-increasing executive power based on the politics of that particular time and which party controlled the two houses of Congress and so on, which made it necessary to greenlight the conflict in the intended way instead of the quick and dirty one.
Following the law just happened to be the best and most politically expedient method in that instance - but they never gave a shit about sticking to the process. It just functioned as a way for the Conservatives to play pretend that they honor and uphold our founding document and respect our citizenry and basic rights - we all know they don't and won't, when push comes to shove.
Godspeed and thanks for your reply!
This reply was taken from my Substack
I always thought it was one of those officially - unofficial type things, and with the current state of Constitutional violations by our own government you can easily see it through the lens of at least it was something but technically you are correct.
I think what he is saying is that from our context viewing the two "authorizations of war" under War Powers by Congress would suffice as a declaration of war or at least fit the bill for a somewhat more justified engagement of the process under the framers intent.
Where you're coming from is also correct however; specifically, that there has been no "formal declaration of war" since WWII like I said, and that the War Powers Act itself is a subversion of the Constitution's original process intent. Indeed War Powers itself might be unconstitutional and it's been questioned at the highest levels of our Courts before. Technically speaking it is NOT a "declaration of war" but rather "an authorization of use of military force" .... you're both right.
While using a different approach to justify the use of military action than Article 1 Section 8 the layman argument would be that AT LEAST it is Congress as the governing body who decides in the perspective that declaring war IS an enumerated power given to Congress alone, good enough. Of course that itself is argued and the original intent could be for POTUS & Congress to both have some power over enacting war because of POTUS role as CiC and to defend the nation from attack. Or you can see the President merely as the Supreme commander, responsible for all decisions relating to commission of war once it is decided upon by Congress but not before.
However, from the strict view, it may be a violation and bastardization of the Constitution itself, because War Powers derives its authority from Necessary and Proper. While still regarding the Congress as the body that should ultimately approve of the country becoming involved in War, they presumed to strengthen the Constitution and the framers intent while making it necessary for the President to seek approval of any new engagements from the Legislature. Outwardly it was sold as bolstering our ability to prevent future conflict by reasserting where that power belonged, but underneath that, the mechanics greatly reduced the threshold needed to qualify and approve new conflicts while creating a slippery slope where POTUS/Exec gained all control over the creation of new conflicts themselves. In essence it allowed POTUS to become chief maker of war instead of simply presiding over wars already in existence, by Congress "authorizing" as a second step rather than "declaring" as the first. Everything everywhere became a necessity to Commander-in-Chief's responsibility to defend the homeland and like a child bringing candy to Mom in the store, the Executive branch had unbridled energy in seeking out conflicts across the globe, all of which were necessary and proper to defense of our country against more and more imagined threats.
The lower hurdle of authorization vs. declaration changed the whole bent of it from defense to offense. By lowering the bar for what constituted as war and what boxes needed checking before our engagement of military was allowed we ensured that there would be no more wars and endless isolated conflicts, boundless in their scope and length, removed from trivial things like national borders and recognitons of sovereignty. This has all served the military industrial complex immensely and lent itself to the unfettered, unchecked growth of intelligence agencies and their powers of espionage as the primary means of control and power against foreign enemies as well as Domestic relations between governments and citizens. The Orwellian nature of our modern world has risen out of the endless conflict continuation; indeed, after the ubiquitous "Terror" was recently defeated, it seems that there's no where else left to go except to wage war on one's own citizenry, who've grown increasingly cognizant of the hypocrisy and erosion of their lawless state.
Nixon vetoed War Powers originally but Congress overrode him. Ironically at the time it seemed as though the President was trying to retain power over the military and framed as such by the lying news media, but in the long view War Powers itself has lead to unchecked growth in POTUS/executive power and action in preemptive and wanton use of military force without proper consent of Congress. Nixon was trying to limit the massive increases in executive power that have allowed subsequent Admins. to engage in endless, wanton conflicts around the globe. War Powers has given the Executive more power and authority to continually justify and engage in military actions almost ceaselessly and has reduced the Congress role in presiding over uses of military force and controlling the constant growth of our involvement in conflicts globally. Quite simply War Powers led to a new engagement every year since it began. The lower hurdle of "authorization" and redefining of "war" separate from "engagement" "armed conflict" "peacekeeping" and other such reductive language as being of lesser magnitudes somehow than "total war" and containing a different meaning has been fundamental to the erosion of the boundaries between the branches themselves as well as obfuscation of which body has legal authority and what to do if violations occur.
Clinton's decision to airstrike Kosovo in 1999 without even a written permission from Congress and the creation of AUMF (used 35 times by Bush & Obama, just twice by Trump) have further collapsed the Constitutional framework for legal authority to authorize military action and we've been left with a system that never declares war because everything is POTUS and the exec branch 'defending' the USA from nebulous, effervescent enemies who no longer even are said to reside in a specific country. Indeed War Powers itself is something of a relic; another [DS] tool created for purposes of reducing and stymieing the final authority and ultimate power to decide for ourselves, bestowed unto us by our Creator and unleashed onto the world by our Founding Fathers, who so wisely and presciently understood that the awesome power of the people, coming together to engage democratically in a balanced, tempered Constitutional Republic, and trade their wares and talents for their best price in a free and equal marketplace was the single greatest method of advancing human progress and enriching human life and society. As with all their methods of stripping that power from its rightful place to hoard it and use for themselves, they had to enact it by undermining and subversive means - because the only way to retain such power is if We the People, unaware and misled, give away their free will and put on their shackles with a smile. This is the only way you can ensure you'll keep that which doesn't belong to you.
So War Powers is an interesting ones to look back at for that reason. Though mostly obsolete now, having been outmoded by AUMF and shirked by Clinton in '99 and Obama in 2011 as we mentioned previously, it serves as a reminder of how the these alterations to the original foundation, said to fit the times and preserve the intentions, are often made to do just the opposite. In the world of 1973, where the President was reviled and excoriated for over extensions of the office's purview and power grabs, the citizenry was sold a bill of goods that would supposedly limit and prevent further such uses of the office. In hindsight it did the inverse, creating roadmaps and incentives to endless conflict creation and ensuring never ending profit streams for those who made weapons of war and kickbacks for the political class who would lobby to send us into the fray. The nightmares of Vietnam laid out into plain view by the media to stoke fear and drive it to an all time high in the country ensured a willingness to sacrifice liberty for security.
Nixon, like Trump was vilified as a megalomaniac, unscrupulous control freak who had designs on ultimate power and would happily create a totalitarian state to ensure it. The sad, painful reality is that he was a complicated man who was crucified and made into a patsy for a mistake - one which was not a trick he invented himself nor uncommon in that day or any other. The public was goaded into seeing him as a threat that needed neutralizing and safeguards placed on his office to ensure the mistakes were never repeated. Ironically, Nixon's ideals, like Trump's, were ones of limiting executive control and reduce the size of Federal government and regulation, and curbing the ever-expanding control of the beast over the States and their people. Both of them grew government and used policy and tools they didn't agree with ideologically, both of them made mistakes for sure. Nixon was responsible for Bretton-Woods and modern welfare after all. I'd argue however that both did what they did because they believed truly it was in the best interests of the country at the time. They took an active approach to solving problems and crises. Nixon, like Trump worked to limit Federal government's regulatory capture and size as well as executive power and foresaw the consequences of things like War Powers. Trump, despite media portrayals, greatly respected the limitations of the Office and worked to build a Constitutionalist Supreme Court, deregulated and dismantled the administrative state as much as he could, and oversaw the first real growth in the U.S. economy since 2007, after which was in a deep recession papered over with pithy nominal gains and redefined metrics.
Interesting then that they were both subverted by their own people working against them from within, both convicted of trying to become Supreme rulers and overthrow our government by the Mockingbird media, both ousted or attempts made. Trump was spied on and falsely framed as a Russian double agent. Nixon was instead accused of spying on his competition and framed up (despite his overwhelming chances of re-election).
So I guess what I'm getting at is have we finally learned our lesson? We bought the Nixon story and sold the Trump one. We allowed them to loosen our grasp on power with the Act in 1973, and back then people worried about this enough that they at least had to have Congress as a pretext. Nowadays as they run about totally unchecked and no longer even care enough to sloppily justify it, have we finally gotten tired of the war, death, lies, and theft? Is life getting so bad that we finally woke up to care and say no more?
I sincerely hope so.
Except that war was not necessarily declared ON "Afghanistan" and "Iraq" but rather on "Terror", which existed in both of these countries.
Being the POTUS of the USA [Corporation] located in DC is one thing.
Being Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces is another.
Once Putin has safely secured vast regions of Ukraine (he has), President Trump (or his designated commanders under the Insurrection Act) can deploy troops to support Russia as peace keepers, humanitarian and logistical aid forces and of course be excellent photo ops for the movie we are watching.
This
I really hope you are correct
Regardless we are now officially more involved than Iran.
I would think we would deploy as the stabilization force vs Russia. After all we paid for the right. Trump can CINC
Congress didn't declare war on Vietnam either. The proper procedure doesn't matter anymore it seems.
Seems kinda odd that would be a rule. Who would want to let the enemy know?
Sadly, you are right.
Not that I know of, but Biden has said as much.
You have to ask yourself why we had any military deployed after the official end to hostilities from WWII. Why did we go to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Panama, Somalia, and countless others?
Yes, by now I and many on here understand how the US is the military arm of the DS and this is what was expected of us.
It's staggering to think about involvement in so many conflicts and so many have been lost to these senseless foreign wars.
What interest do the United States have in Ukraine. Bio labs, money laundering, we don't have any other interest there, GTFO now!
Or, has Trump sent in his troops since Russia has secured the area?
Supposedly they’re inspecting arms deliveries of ours, apparently some stinger missiles and javelins got “lost” in transit, so maybe they’re but trying to clamp down on that? But it doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling with 82nd infantry currently in Ukraine and 101st airborne infantry division right on the other side of the border in romania I believe(could be elsewhere).
82nd Airborne usually goes in and "secures" the area before any kind of invasion or occupation. They were deployed a while ago, according to my brother twenty-five years retired.
I thought it was 101st 3 miles from the border.
Correct, the 82nd was rotated out of Poland & Romania this year.
Yes, I believe they are in Poland though. The 82nd is in the Ukraine.
I only know about the 101
You forgot human trafficking. That is huge from Ukraine and has been for years.
Yeah fuck this. If this shit goes full scale everyone who votes Dem in the mid terms can go to the front lines. I will not fight a war with Russia over a corrupt shit hole.
I dont think theyd have anyone clammering to sign up to fight russia but all the woke snowflakes who wouldnt be able to win a wiffle ball match let alone a war
Absolutely. Everyone who votes for it should be mandated to go.
They all love mandates that cause death and destruction I guess.
cant believe anything news tells us
This is the speed bump tactic. While it won’t stop a nuclear strike it will draw us directly into conflict with Russia if our troops are harmed. This resident is evil.
Thank you! Great point.
PREDICTION: Ukraine sees to it that US troops are harmed in order to drag us into the conflict directly. "Russians attacked US troops!"....
The ANNOUNCEMENT that our troops are in Ukraine right now is setting the stage for a false flag that drives us into war with a nuclear power.
This totally unnecessary announcement takes care of "Wha...why our our troops in Ukraine?" reaction.
Now, we know our troops are there....
Then when the Ukrainians (abetted by US intel agencies) drop a missile on their quarters, blaming the Russians, the only response will be outrage at Putin.
Its INSANE to announce our troops are there, almost as insane as putting them there in the first place.
Pray for our fellow soldiers that they aren't getting into a bad situation. 🙏
Too late. Pedo Joe sent them to war. They did sign up for it.
Hmmm... maybe, maybe not.
Does Pedo Joe control the military?? Really??
Think back to: Pentagon intel blocked off from "Office of Pres-Elect" - Psaki's shocking admission Space Force was not communicating with them (if Biden was CiC would they have a choice??) - (potential hoax)Rubber plane-Afganistan footage that swept thru the media indictment of Biden botched withdrawal (why would that be let out)
Lot of weirdness between Biden Admin and the U.S. military, it seems....
So I wonder if this isn't what we think it is, or how the initial optics seem to show it as.... could be something cooked up by the White Hats. Just a thought.
I don't think Trump is actively commanding troops.
The 82nd Airborne is an Airborne Infantry division of the US Army. They are out of Ft. Bragg, NC. Ft. Bragg is also the home of JSOC. Joint Special Operations Command.
Generally the military unofficially works with 3 tiers of Special Operations.
Tier 1 are the scalpel, and are the fabled units you hear about. CAG/Delta, Seals, Force Recon, TACP, Night Stalkers, etc. Generally their jobs are not direct action, but sometimes are for extremely high value targets involving demolitions, infiltration or other clandestine operations including assassinations.
Tier 2 are the shield, consisting usually of Rangers, and other special operations units in supporting roles. Depending on the mission, a unit could fall into Tier 2 or Tier 3. Rangers generally pull security for Tier 1 units with a CORDON of sorts. Sometimes Special Forces are considered Tier 2 based on their mission.
Tier 3 are the hammer. They are the direct action force for larger scale objectives. There's no official Tier 3, but these are the units directly supporting the kinetic side of Tier 1-2 missions. These involve Rangers in some instances (not usually anymore), 101st Airborne (helo operations like extractions/insertions), 82nd Airborne (jumping behind enemy lines to secure infrastructure like airfields, power plants) and Stryker Brigades (MOUT, area domination).
When 101st was stationed outside the country it made it crystal clear special operators were inside Ukraine already, though it was already assumed. It was basically confirmed. The 101st would be on standby for extraction, in the event of escalation.
The 82nd is out of Ft. Bragg, and that is the home of JSOC. Their mission is publicly about our weapons on loan to Ukraine. The unofficial mission is anyone's guess, but I have some ideas.
Generally, when you have units like the 82nd, 2ID located on bases with a large population of Rangers / SF there will be cross allocation. It's hard to get 'time in grade' for promotions in SF. The officers and NCO's will get sent to these units in authority roles to get their time in grade. Many of these units have brass and NCOs from the higher Tiers.
So, by default there are again already SF on the ground.
Now, I've heard of some interesting movements in Florida, California and North Carolina. NC has JSOC, and Florida has SOCOM.
SOCOM contracts through Leonardo for it's SAT security.
There is also MILSATCOM, a Space Force organization based in California. Also based there is SSC (Space Systems Command).
All of this has to do with ballistic missiles and satellites. Communication is key on any battlefield, even unofficial ones.
Apparently there is concern about our satellites and their safety. More than that I couldn't say. I can guess what those threats would be, from EMP, hacking, etc. to other direct attack and deorbitings / destruction.
In this event the military would lose eyes on the ground capability and thus has forces directly in place to witness and communicate the situation on the ground in the event of a communication black out, if possible.
That's my 2, anyway.
Yeah they are supposed to be “inspecting” all the equipment the US sent to Ukraine.
https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6uuvfxG/us-military-now-doing-onsite-wea/c/
Maybe we shouldn't be giving our weapons and supplies to other countries we have no business being in, then we don't have to worry about this?
Hard for the genius malevolent military minds to grasp, I guess.
^^^^^
They know they need their distraction.
They know they lost this election. They need a war. It won't work, but it's their last shot.
They may be on the ground in Ukraine but that does NOT mean they're going to fight the Russians. My vote goes to protecting various sites as evidence.
u/#pepenuke
Joe Biden has little if any control over our military. We have seen evidence of this a few times.
President Trump is still the Commander in Chief. We have seen evidence of this more than once.
Weve also seen evidence that confuses this issue.
Im going to wait to get my panties in a bunch over this. Future proves past. Lets wait and see how it all plays out. I have a feeling that Trump ordered these troops in with Putins blessing to secure areas that Putin doesnt want to enter for the sake of optics and his clearly stated goals going into Ukraine.
Lets just wait and see how this plays out before we all jump to conclusions. Counter Insurgency ops. Info Ops. Too many moving parts for us with limited information to understand. Assuming you know whats going on only makes you look like the first three letters of the word.
How does that explain members of the military being forced to participate in human experimentation of on pain of early discharge?
Not troops. CIA. Like how they killed "Osama" under direction from CIA.
The CIA operates in countries we are not at war with.
Said troops may be military units but are under the direction of CIA since CIA can operate outside the nation. At least that's how I understand it. Link to Osama death
Really worth a read if you haven't ever reread it with based eyes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden
They are just checking on ammo/weapons supplies.
Simple as this: If any of those troops are killed, that is on the Dems entirely.
Put boots on the ground. Explode some False Flag nukes. Bam election delay gets easier. Hillary gets her special war that was reserved for her presidency.
And here we go. Fuck our government, fuck the military leadership. They run so contrary to American interests that they are literally the enemy of the people.
Stop sending weapons assholes!!!
Waiting for the never ending squawk of "boots on the ground" by the mass mockingbird media
Take them out Putin
I think the military might consider stepping in.
Well this is bad if true. Putin seems to be a man of his word, get ready for the EMP…. I wasnt ready 🤦♂️😓
Guess Biden cannot declare war, so Congress did.