Texas Becomes First State To Potentially Outlaw Chemtrails
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Texas is big enough they would know it was a Chem Trail before the craft was out of TX airspace. May have to shoot a couple down to get the point across.
....viable solution....
I wished this in a comment the other day, still feel that way. Getting ready to walk the dog this morning, a little chilly out, 24 but I dress in layers. It pisses me off when we go out with a clear blue sky and see them spraying us while outside. I pray they crash, probably shouldn't but they're psychopaths and are intent on killing us and/or making us sick.😡🤬
My thoughts exactly.
Consider it self-defense.
The two times I've physically seen planes spraying the sky directly above in a grid pattern they didn't show up on https://globe.adsbexchange.com/ so I haven't even been able to get a tail number. YMMV though.
Lmao. The guys who get angry every time chemtrails are brought up will be punching the air when they see this
If the libs find we’re against spraying people with pesticides they would start drinking the stuff out of spite.
...howls....
A very dangerous mental state for all of us, luckily I think the big con is they really represent 13-18% of the population. It’s still a huge number but thankfully not the 51% they would have us believe.
..."crazy" ain't so crazy anymore....
Texas A&M works with the Texas Weather Modification Association including advances on the equipment used for the dispersal of the aerosols.
Wait til he gets a load of all the chinks in the faculty of the Texas A&M Atmospheric Sciences dept working on aerosols and cloud seeding.
https://atmo.tamu.edu/people/faculty/index.html
Down at the bottom of this page is a more complete list of the different regional assoctiations in Texas including the ones that are now either defunct or have potentially been absorbed by the others.
http://www.texasweathermodification.com/faq.htm
PDF of a weather modification conference held in Austin, TX in 1977 that was sponsored by the Texas Water Conservation Association in cooperation with Texas A&M University and the Texas Department of Water Resources:
https://www.twdb.texas.gov/publications/reports/limited_printing/doc/LP-002.pdf
This shit's been going on for a very long time.
Dane Wigington has been exposing this..with extensive testing and proof for so long, I am surprised at this point that someone is actually going to address the issue. Everyone sees these and know they exist. I truly hope they figure it out and stop it...but there has already been so much damage....
I drive in the north east sometimes, the amount of dead trees I see is staggering. The trees just fall over with no roots or snap halfway up the trunk, in some places it seems to go on forever.
The purpose seems obvious to me. They want to kill off the plant life and its pollinators. Whether it's to engineer a famine, engineer an actual greenhouse effect, or both, I do not know.
I'm of the opinion that "acid rain" of the 70s and 80s were some of the first high-level tests to see what chemicals would do what when dispersed. The effects of acid rain are exactly what you describe.
You are correct. Back then, [they] were spraying a sulphur compound that created dilute sulphuric acid.
Eh, subject is pretty verboten here.
Yep. I've seen one modtard, oops, I mean mod, use the phrase chemtard. We don't have the best and the brightest.
I'd think nothing would be.......But
...precisely....
I also have read the DEF that we put in our semi- trucks is deadly to plants. I think it would be easier to list what is not poisonous at this time.
...certainly not orange juice...
...doggy winks...
Sorry. Wiggington is a pretentious fraud. I just now looked him up and viewed an "irrefutable" video of supposed chemtrail spraying. It was only an airplane flying through patches of moist and dry air, and at one point showing the condensation that can sometimes form over winds from the low pressure. Ever seen a lenticular cloud capping a mountain top? Same effect.
He convinces people who know nothing about atmospheric physics (including himself). Anyway, outlaw "chemtrails." It will make no difference.
He farms and did a lot of soil testing...so in my opinion, he knows a lot about the whole chemtrail situation. YOU must have seen the formations in the sky that are anything but normal cloud formations. For God's sake they could write a message in the sky and it wouldn't look any more abnormal. I don't know what video you are talking about, but he has YEARS of extensive work and research on this subject...so think what you will...but I vehemently disagree..
He knows dirt. And that's the sum of it. He doesn't understand atmospheric phenomena. Contrails are not "normal cloud formations" and never will be. They are artificial cloud formations...but they are only ice crystals. As for Wiggington, I went to geoengineeringwatch and hit the tab for "Spray Jets" and viewed his first up video---which basically proves he doesn't know what he is looking at and behaves like a blowhard. A complete fool can do years of work and "research," but if he is ignorant he will still be a fool.
He can't prove a single claim. He can't prove that anything is being sprayed from an airplane. That would require showing that the airplane is equipped to spray, and capture of the actual spray itself. Otherwise, it is all supposition and prejudice. He doesn't understand contrails. He doesn't understand their dependence on air conditions ("spray turning on and off"). He doesn't understand that overwing flowfields can cause condensation ("separate spray field"). He doesn't understand that the vortex trail behind a wing can mix the contrails together ("spray nozzle misalignment"). His whole case is imaginary.
My original education was as an aerodynamicist and fluid physicist. The company where I worked makes the jetliners that this guy is accusing of being spray vehicles. He is bunk. I notice also that he is blaming the HAARP installation for hurricanes. Lots of hyperventilation. Sheer bunk, all of it. Why do seekers of truth embrace such lies? Maybe you can explain it.
Question...if this is all "naturally occurring" why didn't we see these things 15-20 years ago? I am old enough to know what normal weather and cloud formations look like, even if I don't have the technical knowledge that you have. And tell me why different countries entered into treaties about using weather manipulation and as it relates to warfare. No offense, but you surely can't be blind to what you see with your own two eyes. I guess we just have to agree to disagree. Even if Wiginton is not 100% right in everything he says, it doesn't make him completely wrong in everything. Something is not right...about the contrails and about our weather manipulation and in my book, only a food would deny that.
I remember being a kid in the 80s looking at the trails left by planes and wondering how they were made.
I've lived far far out in the country where my nearest neighbor was miles away and noticed the trails then.
Now I live near DC and have the joy of planes from Ronald Reagan Airport constantly coming and going a few miles away from my apartment. So I see many of these trails every day.
Never understood why the elite would be dumping chemicals all over their own homes. Northern Virginia has three or four of the highest income per capita neighborhoods in the US, so it's definitely where some of the elite hang their hats.
Even if the criss-crossing trails are "only" ice crystals or "only" water vapor, they still need to be stopped! They affect the climate. Water vapor is the most prevalent "greenhouse gas".
(Not that I'm suggesting a warming effect but a local climate-altering effect.)
The only way to stop them is to ban airplanes. I don't think that plan will go over well with the public. But Greta will love you for it, I'm sure.
The best way to prevent them (other than just not flying) is to fly at lower altitudes. But that uses much more fuel than flying at higher altitudes with thinner air. So airlines would either have to sacrifice their profits and enrage their shareholders or they would have to hike their fares up around 60% more than what they are now, according to what I've read about it.
And that just reduces the number of trails. It doesn't stop them all.
(1) We have been seeing contrails since World War II. You can find videos of bomber formations heading to Germany, issuing profuse contrails. I think the escort fighters were also doing this.
(2) Civilian airliner traffic began the changeover to jet aircraft around 1960. They operated up to the tropopause and often produced contrails.
(3) With the introduction of new wide-body aircraft and high-bypass-ratio turbofans, civilian airliners began to operate at higher altitudes (e.g., 40,000 feet) where conditions for contrails are more favorable (dry and cold). That was 15-20 years ago.
Nations are like herds of sheep. They will gather together over what sounds good, whether or not there is any actual problem. Witness what is going on with "climate change" (the former "global warming").
I am not blind to anything. I see contrails daily, being at the south end of a major international airport. I have seen lenticular clouds and understand how they form. I have seen condensation form from overwing airflow (same process). I have studied aircraft wakes as part of a research program to detect them at a distance.
Wiggington is not even remotely close to being correct in his key assertions. Would you pick a brain surgeon for your daughter based on "it doesn't make him completely wrong in everything." You are replacing scientific substance with a crap game. "Oh, he's a rotten shot, but sometimes he hits the target." You are in no position to know whether he hits the target at all, and neither is he.
All you have left is your ignorance ("something is not right") and wishful thinking ("only a fool would deny that"). Well, you are in a rather poor position to be calling an expert in the field a fool, when all you have are questions and I have the answers.
See my previous comment. No matter the content or cause of the trails, they still need to be stopped.
Contrails do not need to be stopped. Nor can they be. It would be like stopping clouds. There is no harm.
This article contains a clip of John Brennan (from 2016, link below) touting the geoengineering practice of spraying chemicals to alter weather. If the CIA Director is for it, that's just more weight for the argument against it.
https://ussanews.com/2023/01/19/petition-seeks-to-eliminate-chemtrails-in-skies-over-texas/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBG81dXgM0Q/
...exactly....
Good idea, but I wonder how they'll identify and catch the perps. And what if it's feds crossing several states in one fell swoop?
..all valid questions,...
...I am still trying to figure out what I will do if I ever catch that car I've been chasing....
...howls....
National guard air defense units would be a good start.
Texas Air National Guard
Remove all the tanks and spraying equipment from planes..that's how! And jail airlines executives.
I have seen 12 at one time
https://t.me/awakenedspecies/3713
...sadly true...
Kind of going with a sensationalist headline here, even with using the qualifier "potentially". I think you're relying on people not bothering to read the articles, and forming opinions on something just from the headline. Which happens way too frequently.
There's a huge jump between a petition and a law.
Funny I did a post on here not long ago about chem trails and got lots of comments about how is not real. Lol. I'm a trucker. I can watch an entire day of progression. I know what I can see. Lately there has been a lot of it in Florida and Louisiana. I'd love to know why they use then so much.
...hold the line and keep on truckin' Patriot...
They are bedroom hobgoblins. You think you see them, but they are really ordinary things that have been there all along: brooms, draped clothing... All you are seeing are contrails. There goes an airplane? There goes a contrail...or not, if the air conditions are dry. If the air conditions are moist, the trail goes from horizon to horizon (I've seen them). And the air conditions are what prevails at 30,000 feet, not what prevails at ground level (put on thinking cap). "Lately" is a clue that upper atmosphere weather conditions are the controlling feature.
Agree to disagree fren
New Mexico gets covered like a grey blanket.
New Mexico has about 50% cloud cover anyway (my summer experience for several weeks). You should be grateful.
Never grateful for getting poisoned. Plus, used to be a really sunny place.
You are not getting poisoned. No evidence of it. I can't stop you from wanting to think you are getting poisoned, but that is the love affair with paranoia. As for the sunniness, that's called weather. I live in the Pacific Northwest, where we can truly get covered with a grey blanket...but it doesn't hurt us a bit.
(Also, modern airplanes fly higher where contrail formation is more favorable. Progress marches on.) You can have a lot more sun if you move west, but I wouldn't want Arizona weather.
Some countries have admitted to spraying (not going to look up links at the moment) for both weather manipulation and in the case of Spain, to fight covid. The contents of these sprays is questionable, and through observation, you can see different patterns. I now live in central America and never see the patterns I see in NM. Also, NM being drier, it could be argued is less prone to contrails. I recall seeing contrails and also seeing the chemtrails that blanket the sky. I know it seems paranoid and I also used to think it was a foolish belief.
Dry or moist at the ground does not necessarily translate into dry or moist at high altitude. Airplanes flying at 40,000 feet are more prone to form contrails than earlier airplanes flying at 30,000 feet. You are going to see contrails in proportion to the air traffic overhead. What are the air routes over central America? I would think not very many. You probably also have different air currents affecting clouds and contrails. When a contrail disperses, it "blankets the sky." It is still all ice crystals. This is called high-altitude haze.
The deliberate programs are a different kettle of fish, use specialized aircraft (not passenger airliners), and are acknowledged. They still cannot cover the sky. I can't imagine what they think they are doing to "fight covid." That would have to be a low altitude program exclusively, below contrail altitudes. Weather modification (cloud seeding) is old hat (dates from 1891) and endangers no one.
Without anything except suspicion and supposition as backing, it is still a foolish belief. And the mods are right to clamp down on it.
Look, I know I'm coming down hard on this, but I am an expert (3 degrees, 40-year career in the industry) and Wigington is a charlatan. He has found videos of aerodynamic phenomena he doesn't understand and used them to lip-synch his own fraudulent narrative. You do know he has a merchandise page? Everyone here has nothing but a bad word for "paytriots," but no critical eye for someone who drums up a false panic and profits from it? I object to my field being occupied by charlatans, and I am frustrated when I try to alert the ignorant and uwary, but they think they know better to trust the charlatan.
Thanks for the thorough response. So the increase in the past 5 years or so just has to do with higher altitude?
Its real alright! Yesterday I was driving South on I-75 from out of KY to TN and as I topped the mountains at the state line I could see the fresh trails way off to the South. As I drove I could see more lines being laid down horizontally and a few crossing. I drove for about another hour it was the same as always. The trails were no longer visible, but there were horizontal clouds that were tightening on each other for full coverage. Hardly any blue sky visible, just clouds and haze.
Thanks for sharing
...where we howl 1, we howl all....
Alright Kentucky time to get off your ass, I’ll donate an acre for a SAM site as long as I can watch the radar screen from time to time.
...we hillpeople love fireworks and moonshine....
...doggy winks....
When we were kids, bottle rockets were the thing and you couldn’t get them in half the states. Now China is importing “all over the world” what could be called flying ied’s that the leftists are using against the police. I don’t think this is a coincidence.
...there are no coincidences....
If the moonshine is authentic you see fireworks anyway.
...absolute ironclad truth....
https://youtu.be/WE5pM1HXxlI
Popcorn Sutton is serving at the bar just to the right of the Pearly Gates...when we get there ol' Doggy.
...I will meet you there...
...mason jar in hand....
...doggy winks....
SAM?
Surface to Air Missile
Thanks
Some of the culprits:
http://www.texasweathermodification.com/
https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/weather/weathermod.htm
Thank You!!!, very, very much. These are the types of websites that I save as a whole to insure they cannot be lost. Something tells me that weather modification practices will be denied with a coverup soon.
Your very welcome fren and good on you for saving these websites.
Here's a few more for you:
http://www.nawmc.org/
https://weathermod.org/
http://www.weathermodification.com/
That's a treasure trove. Thanks again. Its no wonder we barely see the sun in blue skies anymore.
If all these groups somehow compete against each other and mix their "technologies" trying to outdo the others its gonna only get worse.
Your welcome fren. In addition to blocking the sun this cloud seeding also steals moisture from one area to give to another area.
Also check out the reply I posted to Blue-collar745 with some more links including all the chinese working at Texas A&M on cloud seeding and aersols. You'll definitely want to save those as well.
will do, ThanQ
You're welcome
B-b-but Cats5 says that chemtrails are just a "conspiracy theory" !!!
...this is an article about a group of people and a petition....
Finally!!!
Amen
Let a dog breath!
...howls....
There was a few months last year when I didn’t see a single cemtrail anywhere in the country. I was wondering if the good guy’s had possibly put a stop to it, then one day it was grid patterns again, I was so disappointed.
...same here in Ohio....
Grrrr. Nebraska too.
...I miss my blue skies....
It's about time. No one really knows all the chemicals being sprayed on us. Did you know that it is a Congressional Act passed into law permitting the US populkation to be unwittingly experimented on?
Now consider this. Could the Pandemic been spread through Chem-trails? There is evidence that graphene hydroxide has been widely used in chemtrails.
ENMOD is still not being enforced. They do it under the "research" label... Sigh.
...sadly true....
Will Oklahoma join this effort?
...that is up the the people of Oklahoma....
How do you outlaw something that is off the books?
...precisely....
Who exactly is responsible for distributing chem trails?
...Dark State....
Who exactly. I know Deep State, but what branch and who gives the orders? Does anyone really know?
...someone who is not in Davos....
Texas banning it will do nothing, because the Deep State does not follow laws, they are a law on to their selves.
...the truth arrives in somber attire.....
TX has several State Agencies that directly fund all this chemtrail/cloudseeding/geoengineering BS. Caused the flooding in Houston in coordination with JPL with Hurricane Harvey. Maybe since the Bush Family has been stripped of any political power the people of TX can start controlling their govt for the first time.
...filed under "Distinct Possibilities"....
On a day when it was real bad and sooooooo obvious I asked my dad what he thought about those clouds. He just said they’re jet stream. So I gently said they could be something else like geoengineering or stratosphere aerosol spraying. He asked me who would do that and why. I just said I don’t know because the seed was planted. He kept looking at them throughout the day. A couple days later he sent me a google search debunking them. The brainwashing is strong with my folks.
What evidence did you give him to support your stance that it could be something like geoengineering or stratosphere aerosol spraying?
Well when he sent me the google article debunking it I told him that’s very interesting and then asked if he’d like to see a different opinion because he knows I think google is a super villain. He said no it’s fine. After a month or so, I think seeing them in rural Nebraska daily got him thinking, he asked me for other info. I sent him geoengineering watch.com docu. and Bill gates literally talking about it just to get him started. He hasn’t said anything since. So I guess we’ll see.
Didn't know Google wrote articles. I thought it was a search engine. 🙂
...sadly true....
...the old ones confuse love for country with love for government....
I am smiling. Pass the law. Watch as nothing changes. No proof of "chemtrails."
The picture, by the way, is nothing but contrails. Just a lot of airplanes.
I know right, makes me question who the mods doing that, really are. I mean being here and a mod and naive enough to think chemtrails don't exist. Sheesh.🙄
I think the concern isn't whether they do exist that's the problem. You can come to a conclusion that they don't exist, and even argue that point endlessly.
I think the biggest problem is stating that they can't exist, and I am just not willing to make that argument when we have seen all corners of world government enacting horrific things for centuries.
I suspect the mods job is to keep people distracted with upcoming deltas and ban those who question the absurdity of some of the claims. Who owns .win? Who pays money to keep GAW going? If not making money then what's the point? Why pretend chemtrails are fake? Many questions about this site.
Modtards are creepy. Something not right about them.
Totally agree. They lose their cool really easily and fly into a frenzy.
Some are really good, some are meh, and some are clearly overcompensating for having a micropenis.
I've been asking these questions for awhile now. Still no answers. No ads, no fees. These forums must be expensive to operate. Some mods and "top contributors" seem to spend all day, everyday here, so it makes me wonder if this is a paid gig for them.
So where does the income come from? Are they selling information they're gathering from us?
But we're not supposed to "question everything" or "follow the money" when it comes to TPTB on .win.
🤷♀️
It's world wide with all major powers participating. That's why it hasn't stopped it's now warfare weather.
Holy shit! A SF anon?! Lol. My older brother lived there for years. He and the wife just moved up to Petaluma when they started having kids a few years ago. He and I used to be best friends. Now….I don’t know. Whenever I bring anything up about anything he just gets that glassy look and I know I’ve lost him. Glad to hear there’s some sanity in that town. Last time I was there was for his wedding, pre-covid madness, don’t plan on going back unless things change for the better.
Don't worry. He won't get booted. He's super special with super special posting privileges. ✌️