277 () ✝️ God Bless JP 🕊️ posted 74 days ago by FuzzyL0gic 74 days ago by FuzzyL0gic +282 / -5 78 comments share 78 comments share save hide report block hide replies
Satan is real. Evil is real. Thus, good, and therefore God, is real.
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
Yes - this is how I came about my faith, thanks in part to this board and all the previous years in my life, going back to childhood.
I watched the entire video and I'm skeptical of JP for this single reason: how can you come to the conclusion God is real and does work in our lives, but don't acknowledge His Son? JP didn't mention faith in Jesus Christ the entire video. The video (outside of that huge truth) was good, minus the shilling for whatever product in the final minute. It's pointing people in the right direction at least, even if he's not factually correct about the most important truth.
John 14:6, ESV says: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
@ u/BetterNameUnfound - not sure why you're nitpicking, but the answer is because God imprinted onto our hearts the Commandments. This is a summation of CS Lewis Mere Christianity: how you can logically reason the case for God.
He mentioned Christ by saying he is a Christian, or, "follower of Christ."
The term Christian was originally coined by Romans as a derogatory remark for anyone who followed Jesus. As in, "there goes that > christian."
Sometimes people choose to take a negative and reverse psychology it into a positive as has been accepted by us Christians for 2000 years. And yes history repeats itself as the DemoLibs have attempted to do the same. Good brining up this piece of history Anon. God bless you.
How do we know what evil is unless we know what good is?
And how do we know what good is unless there is an objective standard of Good beyond ourselves?
I think intuition is really Spirit helping us. It is our moral compass. Prayer helps us to open to this angelic wisdom.
Yes, in fact a lot of spiritual life is like this low-key data connection that prompts here and there, introduces new thoughts and is just under normal consciousness. You can ignore it, or give it more priority in your mental awareness. That's where quiet time, prayer, worship and reading scripture can help remove distractions so you can dial that in. Much like callous skin, it takes time to get that removed so you can hear more clearly. It also requires regular maintenance. Early morning is a great time for this.
Yes! fully agree.
ditto & I think that's what JP also says toward the end. We know good because it's written in our hearts. And yes, I think even Hillary Clinton knows when something is evil. She just don't care.
Very simple yet brilliant observation… you are a light in the dark, but as the eternal law who is light has ruling over all other laws created. The darkness has no choice but to retreat in the presence of light. The brighter you shine, the longer the shadow you will cast. I’m proud to know you are among this great effort to awaken humanity. ❤️
I wish I could take credit, but it's not my line. I got it from Norman Geisler and Frank Turek in their excellent book "I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist."
Your logic is flawed because you assume that evil and good are different things. They are opposite polarity of the same vibrations. So you observe evil and use that as proof for Satan. And then you believe in God because you now believe Satan exist. There are many satans. Each and every soul has to overcome theirs. Hashatan as the Jews call it. Is nothing more than negative inclinations of man. Not a literal evil being looking to cause you to fail in order for God to judge you later. The judgement will come, and so does the afterlife, but not in the ways you think of heaven and hell. Nothing is for ever, except the all, and as a result, there is no final resting place for a soul other than being United once again with the all who is all. God is everything, and that is the only way a God can be eternal. We are him, and he is us… seek within as Jesus Christ told us. The kingdom of God is within.
You have an uncanny ability to offend as well as convolute. I'm sure that is not your intention but I'm inclined to point it out.
Also, nothing you said is canonical with the Bible.
We are not God. We are God’s creations. “A servant cannot be greater than their master” , I hear what your saying, but I would just stick with the Bible for education about these things. Some of what your saying is way out there.
When Jesus started to preach… his teachings were also, out there and different.. the difference is I understand what Jesus meant because I have the master key that unlocks all doors. When you have it you will see what I mean, understand, and hopefully use what you learn for good.
I think it's possible that these abstract concepts you point to are true while at the same time very definite & clear concepts are also true. SO you could say, like you said that good & evil are of the same substance but they are also entirely different substances, at the same time. So I don't think it's fair to say: "your logic is flawed" but rather you could say you look at things through another logic system. Why sow discord when you are both obviously on the same path?
Let me point out besides all the stuff JP says & all the things in the Bible & stuff, there's even things that people who must have been in the swamp would say. For instance David Bowie in his video "and the next day" said "They know God exists because the devil told them so"
He would know the swamp. For him to let that out does speak loudly that they see them as exact beings as well
I never said good and evil are the same and also different. I said they are the opposing poles of the same thing. What these two concepts are called is karma. There is the negative end and the positive end. Consider it to be like temperature. How hot does it have to get before it’s no longer cold? How cold does it have to get before it’s no longer hot? Some people think 70 degrees is just right, others think is too cold, and some think is still Hot for them.. all depends on what? What climate a person is accustomed to. Evil and good is no different. Is all perception, and what you deem too much of either end of the poles. There are fundamental laws how ever, and universal concepts of right and wrong, but these are vastly different than our human interpretations.
How can their even be positive & negative karma if you consider your argument about it all being a matter of interpretation
Because is cold and hot opposite things? Or is your perspective creating two things? Everything has an opposite side.
This is actually a very good video. I am happy to hear JP Sears is a believer.
God is so wonderful to help us in these hard moments to find him and grow in His Glory! I felt this strongly after my son was born in 2018. The evil repelled me so strongly I became more devoted to God compared to before. My life has been exponentially better, praise the Lord!
I'll give you seekers a tip. Find a thread of love, and follow it (if you can)
Yes. there is a source!
Very interesting to watch. Nice to see a pro Christian view for once.
Next step: change the t-shirt to Got Jesus?
Or maybe this one. My all time favorite shirt from The Chosen. It gets attention, comments and questions.
Dang, this is certainly something I needed today. Thanks, Fren!
God loves you!
Someone's gotta love me! Some days I don't love myself, so that's where I need help.
Remember you are from and of God, if you dont love yourself, you cant fully love God. Something Im actively working on being a woman from LA where so much of the culture is to hate yourself. You are worthy, my fren.
Quite a good video!
Would have loved to hear him talk about reading the Bible as an important way to listen to God, and also would have loved to hear him talk specifically about sin, repentance, and salvation through Jesus alone. And of course surrounding ourselves and being in community with other believers on a regular basis…eg. church and small groups.
But otherwise I like this video a lot!
I love JP. Every point he makes is 100% accurate.
Luke 10:22 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 6:45 It is written in the Prophets, ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me.
John 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
I am so delighted watching this video from JP. So much joy at his journey of the last few years.
“The last will be first, and the first last"
People like JP are becoming the cutting edge of God's work in the world, even more beyond many Christians who have been faithful for many years but who are hindered by doctrine and rigid beliefs.
JPs 4 points, all based in his experience. Cutting edge.
I saw him at Freedom Fest. He’s absolutely hilarious and super friendly and approachable.
Knee time before the throne of God is change time: In your own life, family's life, community's life, nation's life and impacting the world. "Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness."
What JT has said is awesome!
JP is Rick Morranis and Carrot top bastard love child.
Prove me wrong.
Recognizing evil isn't distinctly "Christian". I'm not really sure what this dude is on about, but it's worth pointing out that even Satan believes in God.
Are we supposed to assume that 81% of Americans are saved and on their way to Heaven simply because they believe in God? Belief in God isn't the standard. "Respecting Christian values" isn't the standard. Belief in prayer isn't the standard. Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross is the standard, and there's not a single word about any of that here. He might as well be catholic.
My investigation suggests that everything other than Religion is Controlled Opposition. People are placed into boxes; their thoughts and beliefs are guided through Propaganda, Rhetoric, Experts, and False Flags. Every event that I have looked in to has shown direct control on all sides by the same Agency.
This Evil that J.P. Sears says he has seen that led him to The Good has been controlled by Someone. Nothing is organic. The questions are, Who was the evil controlled by, and why. The "how" is important too, but my report (linked above) is all about the how.
"Who" is a group I call The Trust. The Trust is sometimes called The Cabal, or Satanists, or the Illuminati, etc. I call them The Trust because they currently rule by Trust Law; laws specific to a type of corporation (legal entity) called a "trust." I suggest their name is irrelevant and tends to place investigation itself into a box.
My investigation suggests The Trust is everywhere, and they control everything. My investigation suggests that all entities in "opposition" are either created by or, if they arise organically and reach sufficient popularity, are subjugated by The Trust. In other words, there are, on this planet, as far as I have been able to find, zero organizations with reasonable popularity that were not created by or subjugated by this single entity. That may have changed recently, but I am not convinced of that. For now, I will assume nothing. Through the control of these organizations, the beliefs of everyone across the planet are controlled by The Trust. I call this conglomeration of beliefs The Matrix. The organizations (echo chambers) that promote all the various beliefs, have at the top, and scattered throughout, agents of The Trust. It is these people who’s work gains prominence because they get the financial backing and the promotion in publication and the news required to “make it big.”
Most people here are aware this happens in the corporate world, the government, and any “Leftish Political Group” (BLM, Antifa, etc.). What some appreciate, but not all, is that all the “right” groups are also controlled by the same entity. The Right's beliefs have been guided just as much as those on the left. Both sides receive parts of the Truth, but not the whole truth. They are set against each other through talking points handed out by the talking heads. This allows “The Left” and “The Right” to focus on their disagreements, not looking at their commonalities; not attempting to discuss, but rather, fight over “irreconcilable differences.” They are only irreconcilable because they are designed to be. Each side takes a stance for which there can be no compromise, thus there will only be a strict line of division. I call this method of control "The Prison of Two Ideas."
WRT the OP, J.P. gives reasons for his “change of heart” on what is “truth”. He cites evidence that supports some of the tenets of his new/old Religion. Because things he thought were bullshit before turned out to have evidence for, he assumes that all of the tenets that he formerly believed were false are actually true. This is a self-induced fallacy of composition argument. “Part of it is true, when I thought it wasn’t, therefore the rest must be true as well.” The evidence suggests that this fallacy is used intentionally through rhetoric (and thus taught to us and commonly employed in our reasoning) in all other areas of controlling the beliefs of people, a form of Controlled Opposition.
He also says that the “other side” (in this case Communism) are trying to keep us away from these tenets, and Communism is bad, therefore “what they are trying to hide” must be the truth. That also is a self-induced fallacy, in this case an ad hominem (against the person argument), and a fundamental control system for controlled opposition in all other areas. I suggest ad hominems are the most prevelant form of rhetoric that guides belief. They are so common in fact, they literally rule the world. Or rather, the world is ruled by the creation of “other,” and by stating “other’s beliefs” are false because they are other. Through this method of dismissal, we allow ourselves to not actually listen to what “other” is really saying. Instead we pull out the talking points we were handed and use them as rebuttal. Those “rebuttals” are designed to cause a reaction strictly in opposition, thus keeping everyone divided. Controlled Opposition.
When a person transitions their beliefs, in all other areas (a Left to Right shift, e.g.), they transition from one box to another by these self-induced logical fallacies.
If these methods are employed in all other areas, is it possible that all of our beliefs are subject to the same controlling entity?
My investigation has put it beyond a reasonable doubt (for me) that this same method of control includes the Formal Religious Organizations themselves. They are a part of The Trust. Worse, it’s not just the ones that exist today; rather, this goes back forever. I’m not talking about the inspirations of the various Religions (Jesus, Buddha, etc.), I’m talking about the formal Religions, the canned box of beliefs, the tenets, and the control structure that surrounds those tenets. When you really dig into their origins, and the origins of the tenets themselves, and more importantly, what's been left out, an entirely new picture emerges of the nature of our reality.
In the case of Religion, which J.P. is espousing, whether the beliefs of that Religion are true or not, the Religion itself puts the mind into a box. Thus any investigation from within that box fails if any important evidence is outside of it. So IF it isn’t true, or is missing really important pieces of information, a person will not see it, nor will they be able to see it, because they believe their box contains all the truth there is on the subject.
I suggest the only way to get to the truth is to keep your mind open to seeing all of the evidence. If you are in a box, if you are “Religious” over “Spiritual” you have placed yourself in a box of someone’s design. Every other cult than yours believes their box is special; divinely inspired. "There is no need to look at anything else; it’s all self-contained." What makes yours right, when all the others are wrong? Might they all be boxes, designed to control?
I’m not trying to tell anyone “the Truth.” I don’t know what the Truth is. But I suggest if you aren’t willing to look at certain pieces of evidence in earnest, you should ask yourself "why?" Is it because your beliefs make you feel safe? It is by exploitation of our concept of “safety” that all fuckery occurs in all other areas ("Those who would give up Liberty for Security will get neither" (paraphrased)). Is it POSSIBLE, that that has happened in the beliefs systems that ruled most of the world for the previous two millennia as well?
I suggest that if you can’t ask that question in earnest, you are still stuck in The Matrix.
We are living in a type of separation, and until we are in heaven, nothing will be completely right. Religions are like cultures; it's hard to relate to a different one. God is greater than religion, but religions provide a pathway to the divine for many, and enforce good behavior as a blessing to us all. Also, the benefits and strength of the divine connection increases with numbers, so a good worship community is also a blessing. If you connect with the divine, I will not say you are wrong to be Korean since I am American, or that it is wrong to be Buddhist since I am Christian.
You've hit the nail on the head, at least with regards to my research, though I'm not certain you meant to.
Again, I don't know the Truth, but my research suggests that the key point that is left out of all the standard Religions is a separation from God. I mean that precisely. All of our present day religions (except Buddhism) teach that God is fundamentally a separate entity from everyone else. God is "over there", ruling from "on high." We are "over here," subject to "God's Rule." By this hierarchical method we are controlled. By this hierarchical method we can never realize our self-determination and self-assertion, our Sovereignty.
The fundamental argument for what we call "science" is that the universe can be fully explained by what we call "physical" phenomena. This belief stems from what amounts to a philosophical war that occurred in the 19th century between "Dualism" and "Physicalism" (the formal philosophies). The outcome of that war was determined not by argument, but by fiat, more importantly, by funding. The entity we call "school" was forced to not allow any teachings on the concept of "spirit" through conditional funding a la John D. Rockefeller. Thus, the debate of that which can't be explained by purely physical processes was forced out of the conversation.
The biggest problem I have with that is that we can't even define what we mean by "physical." It's a word that we think we understand, but the deeper our observations go into the very small and very large, the less our concepts of "physical" apply. Thus, what "won," may not have any meaning at all, at least not as we understand it. Science, ultimately, stopped looking into anything outside of that dogma. Science, through Rockefeller funding, separated us, through belief, from God, yet answered the question definitively, "there is no God," despite not looking into it at all.
Yet it did look. It looked a lot. What we call "physics" are experiments into the nature of reality, and physics says "there's nothing physical there." According to all of the evidence of physics, it is more appropriate to say "It is all 'spirit'" (at least our concept of "spirit" as the other from "physical").
Science found other things, such as "there is no separation from Source." In other words, that fundamental "spirit" that is the essence of all things intimately ties everything together. You are Source. The "Boundaries" that define "You" are a lie. They are only true from a certain perspective. When you dig deeper, those boundaries disappear. You are Source, Source is You. All is Spirit, and perhaps All is Mind, AKA Source is Intelligent. The evidence doesn't necessarily support the last one, but science doesn't look into it at all. It refuses, and there is no funding.
The older religions say the same thing. "God is Source," and "There is no separation from Source." Jesus said, "I am the Son of God." He also said, "You are all the Children of God." Maybe he was trying to tell us something. The formal religions put the inspirations on a pedestal (Christianity is the worst in this regard). The inspirations say "we are ALL Source." The religions say, "Source is over there, and it rules you."
The formal religions that are ostensibly built upon the teachings of Jesus (Christianity and Muslim) have, like Science, separated us from Source. This is the fraud, according to my research.
Until people get that, they will be stuck in The Matrix.
For as long as people stick to their "worship groups," which is just another word for "echo chamber," they won't get that God is not a separate thing from Themselves. This goes beyond just the individual not experiencing the "Awakening." It is through this separation from Source that is the commonality of the Religions that came before (Christianity, Muslim, Hindi, Judaism, etc.), and the Religion that exists now (Science), that we are ruled.
Everyone follows that same tenet. "You are separate from Source," and it controls the actions of everyone.
It is always where all sides agree that the greatest fuckery happens. It is what people aren't arguing about that ultimately controls us.
Good philosophizing comments, u/Slyver. Yes, but how do you finally come to a place where you know what to believe with certainty? Where does your foundation begin to form?
Why do I need to believe anything "with certainty?" Why is that important at all?
I work strictly (or at least try to) on whether or not the evidence suggests something is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Well, perhaps not strictly. Sometimes I make decisions even when I have "reasonable doubts" AKA doubts based on the process of reason, but we do the best we can with the information we have available at the time. By this method of "the measure of reasonable doubt" in the decision making process, I can make sound decisions while leaving myself open to seeing evidence to the contrary at all times.
I experience Reality only when I don't try to tell It what It is. The rest of the time I'm just trying to fit it into a box.
My foundation is "experience That Which Is by listening" (AKA not speaking, not telling it what it is). From there I investigate and appreciate.
Only by letting go of the need to "know" the Truth can you appreciate it for What It Is.
"Knowledge" is, if believed in, nothing but a box that prevents us from hearing the Truth, whatever that may be.
If I were to make a statement, "There is no God." I would be called an "Atheist." I would be called that because language has been subverted on this topic to cause confusion.
Atheist means, a- (no) theology (belief about God). In other words, it means "No Belief about God."
If you say "There is no God," that is a belief about God. It is a Religion, with a fundamental tenet that There is no God.
The word Atheist is a complete misnomer.
If you don't have a belief about God it means you don't know. Not knowing doesn't mean there is no God, nor does it mean that a person is making a statement one way or the other. It just means you don't know, which is the definition of the word agnostic: a-(no) gnostic (knowledge). Agnostic means "I don't know." Atheist means "I don't know about God." They are the same word, though one is more specific, a subset of the other.
This is a confusion of language, and a "talking point" that is abused by a complete misunderstanding of the words being used. The same thing happens with "Absolute Truth." There is a huge difference between making a claim that there "Is no absolute truth," and "I don't know what the Truth is."
On the contrary, whatever the Truth is, it is absolute. The word "Truth" means "Absolute Truth" or "Whole Truth." They are all the same word.
Even if Reality is such that we all create our own universe (which I have many arguments against, but won't go into here) the "Absolute Reality" would be the entire system that allows us to create our own universes. In other words, the Absolute Truth is the Whole Truth, whatever that Whole Truth is.
If there is a meaningful difference between the state "existence" and "non-existence" then there must be a "Reality" (AKA Truth) in there. And that Truth can't be anything but Absolute, by definition.
True, and sometimes you can just "feel" something to be true based off so many invisible, intangible factors. Like how I quickly started to break out of the early 2020 fear and realize that we were being scammed via COVID, and that it was just another wealth and power transfer scheme like all others through history, and that the vaccines were a big scam.
I guess my question is, say, I believe in God, and Jesus, and my faith is Christianity, and my faith has a book -- a doctrine -- which is the word of God, which gives order to the lives of His followers.
Supposedly, studying and researching the "Occult", which is the study of things hidden from view, would necessarily fall into the concept of "eating from the tree of knowledge". Even though there is technically the ability to use occult knowledge for the pursuit of truth, light and goodness, to me it would seem that this would go directly against God (at least God as I understand)? Does God wish to keep us ignorant, or is there an incorrect correlation I am making here?
Faith is the keyword in this entire argument/discussion.
I think it's more of a "trying to fit something into my 'truth' box that doesn't fit."
If evidence doesn't fit into your Truth Box, then maybe your truth box is too small. Maybe that truth box was made too small so that you wouldn't look at the evidence that doesn't fit.
That's pretty much my entire point.
I get what you're saying, but what about the point I made about God's law and eating from the Tree of Knowledge, which is essentially what occult study is all about? Where does the line become drawn?
edit: I was not the one who downvoted you, just fyi.
I can't get past the sense of this being a self serving comment, as it stands. You say "I’m not trying to tell anyone “the Truth.” I don’t know what the Truth is" as the rest of your comment is full of assumptive truths about what Truth can certainly NOT be , and what are certainly defeater flaws of anything construing organized belief systems, and the assumptive truth that anyone who thinks otherwise is truly trapped in the Matrix.
Why not keep it simple? If you cannot, from your delvings of wise-agnostic research, account for say the existence of the laws of logic, these laws of which are
And yet you wholly depend on them to argue for or against every other ultimate reality or entity,
then why bother positing about the impossibilities of anyone ever possessing an intellectually responsible belief system that corresponds to metaphysical reality? Deal with your own dilemmas first, as a non-theist you have a bit of a mountain to climb.
Where did I make a claim that something is false? I gave an argument. There are no statements of "this or that is false" in any absolute sense, at least not that I did intentionally. If I did it unintentionally, please let me know with specific examples. You also have named some of my arguments "flawed" without providing examples. That is meaningless to me.
In any argument there must be some assumption of truth, some premise. If we eliminate all premises we can't say anything at all. I tried to be explicit, at least to some extent, that my argument was based on premises, even if I didn't go through and list them all. I did however link to the first part of the report of my investigation which gives the evidence to support the statements I did make.
I am talking about what my investigation said about the systems we have, and who created them. I have looked into the ORIGINS of these systems. The focus was not intended to be on any possible system, but rather the ones that are prominent in our society. Once you dig in, you see that they were all constructed by the same entity, a single body that controls everything.
Please read my report for the actual evidence I am offering that supports that statement.
Logic has nothing to do with Truth (AKA That which Is AKA Reality). Logic is a self-consistent language. It can make statements that are logically "true," but are based on premises that are not proven. Thus any conclusion derived from a logical process is at best unproven as a part of the larger Truth, and at worst, provably incorrect, with hidden premises, faulty premises, or faulty logic (usually one of the first two).
If you believe that I have stated faulty premises, not stated premises I should have (hidden premises that prove the conclusions incorrect or reasonably call them into question), or even made logical errors, I suggest you elaborate that belief with explicit examples. It will make conversation much easier.
If you think that's what I did, I'm not sure you understood what I was saying (or I just really don't get what you are saying).
Did you read the entire conversation or are you just responding to the first part?
God is water, change my mind.
He’s only become more pro-Trump and more serious over time. What’s your problem?
This guy is a grifter. Another from the same world is Russel Brand.
Why pin these shits
Ok, if you're gonna say it back it up with some facts.
I've followed him (not hardcore) for years, and he's gone from a slight liberal lean, to center, and pretty conservative from what I've noticed. I believe a lot of that changed as he grew up, got married, has a family now, etc.
Because your negative opinion matters little.
Good for him. But that is precisely the purpose of it all. When he finds out there is no Satan it will make him feel afraid, then he will be angry and finally amazed.
Looks like you're going to the bottom of this page here, Cooper.
Is this comment Fundamental interpretation versus Allegorical interpretation? Or did you mean something else?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion fren. Just not everyone’s reality. The universe is mental ❤️
Looks like there's lots of spiritual people here like myself that don't buy into the entire Christian narrative. Good to see!
Plenty of higher vibrations in the awakening fren. If you know you know. The more you shine, the longer the shadows you cast. Glad to be on the journey home together.
For some people the pursuit of the truth has a finish line, and they reached it, and the pursuit is over. Some part of them knows they didn't find it though and so they resent the blasphemy of others not recognizing their finish line.
Matthew 7  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Seeking after the truth is a very genuine kind of prayer. Should do it all your life if you can.
It feels good to believe we have the mysteries of our existence figured out. Religion does that for some, but not for a vast many others. If a person believes they've arrived, they stop growing.
Exactly. We never stop growing. The soul is eternal, and we will carry on adding to our higher self’s library, and live and die over and over in other places until we have graduated and can awaken others on this journey. Ascension is the only path home.