I’m posting this to welcome other similar research and articles about faith fighting back. This is Biblical Anons. It doesn’t matter what God loving religion you’re part of, it’s God and God alone channeling all whom love and believe in him to fight back against the Cabal. God knows Where We Go One We Go All, together with him. And the flood has started! Christians of all denominations, Jews, and Muslims are about to join forces. Though they differ in Saints, Prophets, disciples, leaders, God’s true name, how the stories go together book to book, who’s religious tome is oldest and its archeological artifacts, and their belief in Christ, one piece, one piece binds us all as brothers and sisters; it is thee same 1 and only God. We all love God and slowly……very very slowly, but maybe now we are all learning and accepting we need to be on the same side, together to defeat the Cabal world-wide.
And the US has certainly become the world’s experimental melting pot for all God loving religions. But I believe what’s happening here will spread world wide to fight the Cabal.
So below I post these two articles to open the mind to put down the tongue sword of what God loving religion or their book is more correct or not! We ALL Love the same God PERIOD! And if we are to really win, reeeeally really win and beat the Cabal, we need to just listen to God himself. We all need to join together, go together, and take the Cabal out together.
Put other articles in this thread that you find. Show us your place of worship or God stands with Patriots world wide, with God together to fight back against the evil and tyranny. Much love and respect Anons and Patriots, and God bless each of you.
Where We Go One We Go All, TOGETHER, with our one God.
I can appreciate their effort atm, but we don't love the same God brother.
Well, appreciating their effort is a first step, anyway. But is God the God that you think he is in every way? If God is greater than what you understand, which humility dictates, that means that your concept of God is not, cannot be, God himself. And remember: Lucifer's sin was that he was 100% convinced that he know the whole story, and decided that he should be ruler, not Adam.
It's not easy to combine and merge unwavering conviction with real humility. In my experience, only God's presence, and love, can do that.
My point here is not to suggest that your sense of conviction should be ignored, but humility requires, in my opinion, that as believers, we grasp a fundamental fact: we do NOT know the whole story. Or, to put it in Paul's words:
"Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
There's a reason why Paul made this astonishing declaration before the mic-drop next statement:
And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love.…
Faith is the power generated by our belief, by our belief in the concept or understanding of God that we acquire through truth. But ultimately, love is even greater than that.
That's fine and all man, but none of what you said is more than generally nice statements. You can say all you want, but God makes it very clear in various places if you don't have the Son, the same hath not the Father. If you deny the Son, you deny the Father. Everyone of these folk will die in their sins and go to hell, denying the Son. The manner in which His people (in faith) would be redeemed has been made manifest. Faith IN God's provision which IS the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ which is God made flesh skirting all the silly technical debates that distract from the point. Belief in that is how GOD sorts people, heaven and hell. So yeah, it's kind of a dividing point for everyone that gets the gravity of the intentional specificity we have in declaring Jesus and not this general idea behind God. If they wanna be allies in the flesh, we can stand shoulder to shoulder, but at the end of the day they too like the Israelites that profited from the believing Israelites blessings while in unbelief themselves, afterward were to be destroyed.
I agree with you completely and would love to hear your thoughts on this video (20mins) with Andrew Tate on why he went from Atheist to Christian to Muslim.
https://youtu.be/KZN7EGkIrCQ
I was listening trying to find terms and key dead giveaways that indicate a lack of understanding of our relation to God in terms of Grace and Mercy as I think it's essential. Grace being freely given positive things without deserving them, with mercy being NOT given punishment we do deserve. In essence, His mercy with holds the punishment of hell which is deserving in the flesh, with His grace applying His righteousness to us giving us rewards undeserving (heaven). If you mix the two, it's the old works / salvation being intermingled as the wool and linen forbade in imagery of the old testament (wool/Lamb/Jesus/His Blood) vs (linen/flax/produce/our works of righteousness).
3:15 Patrick cites Tate in context of Islam being the last religion states "Cause you've gotta earn His right, I wanna earn your right and respect." God isn't impressed with a single thing we do, except when we put on His righteousness through faith in Christ, and that's only because He now sees His own works. Our own works are an outward witness to the world, so that like James 2 "faith without works is dead being alone" the man witnessing the non-working believer doesn't say to us "Show me your works" God sees our faith man sees our works is my point. We are justified by God to God by our faith alone, and justified by man to man by our works alone. Mixing the two, is the issue here. We don't earn God's respect, we do however align with Him. So actual Christianity framed properly is very different than Islam or falsely so-called Christian groups and the rest of religion as a whole, in that if you go into it with the idea that you are going to get to earn heaven by being good. Then you are going to just see yet another religion that's in the grab bag that can fit your line of thinking to pull you away from turning from trusting in your own works to go to heaven, and fully trusting in the finished work of the cross. Praise Jesus for loving us so much He made it easy even for simple people like myself.
I think framing it that there needing to be an equal and opposite force of evil and good is strange to claim as well, as I get the Yin and Yang aspect people want to integrate. But there was a time prior to Satan's fall, that there wasn't. There will also be a time after the resurrection, where there isn't. It also already isn't really as only ~ 1/3rd of the angels fell and the strongest amongst them being Satan combined with all of them isn't even close to equal with God. Satan doesn't rule over hell, he's destined to be burned there "in the presense of the Lamb" whom actually rules over heaven AND hell contrary to popular framing. Kind of silly all around tbh.
A lot of talk about demanding respect, needing to be feared which is what people thought Jesus was going to show up and do the first time and He didn't. He came and served, with humility. Roasted folk like nobody else, but He didn't come demanding to be respected, which is who we follow. I think it's just a case of people getting caught up in the spirit of religion as an idea, then testing the options as equal offerings. Which is understandable, I think a lot of it is relatable logic they are saying, but it's ultimately a carnalization of an attempt to observe the supernatural. They are flesh and bone and die to be judged off what they did. We are flesh and bone, with a born again Spirit that'll never die. Leading to a lot of texts addressing this life we still have left to live out, knowing with our own faults He will complete this good work He started in us at the resurrection of our flesh, and other texts addressing the coming life in which we are fully redeemed that people misapply to the now. We sit, strangers, foreigners in this land waiting the redemption of our body also. Strangers and foreigners and remnant type language for us always used isn't compatible with the idea of a true religion dominating the planet. It's about the minority, the few, the strait and narrow as it were. They belong here and are trying to show an extradimensional being that is impressed with nothing short of PERFECTION how they also deserve to be where He is, by means of...their own coming short of their own religions rules.
Thank you taking the time watch and respond. I live in the south where there's a church on every corner. Not a single one that I've followed or joined seems to follow the tenants of Christianity. Many have women as "pastors" and most teach the prosperity gospel. Some even have open homosexuals as pastors or members. I'm not here to judge, but I could not find a single church in my area that did not play into the fear and bullshit pushed during the plandemic. They all cucked out and seemed to abandon any faith they claimed to have. So, I can relate to what Tate is expressing. The only place I can find Christians who stand firm in the word and their belief is online (mainly this site tbf). I feel this is a real problem as Islam continues to expand into the west. I'd be tempted to join myself, but knowing that Mohamed was pedophile kinda ruins the whole idea for me. But for many men, Islam is a way out of the woke mind-virus and I can see the allure. So the question for me is this, at what point do Christians actually take a stand against evil? Or is that not what Christ would want us to do?
I see the appeal so I know what you mean. I think Christians should have a long long time ago, and a lot did and still do. Jesus told his disciples to sell all they have and buy a sword, they affirmed Him they have swords. He told them again, and they affirmed Him again, they have swords. Which indicates, don't be unarmed and not expect to have to hold your own and just live totally passive. It's just a balance for us though, because God put us here, and while selfless we don't just say 'then let's blow ourselves up' Alahu Akbar style. We realize it's a spiritual battle of princes and principalities in high places Eph 6:12.
I'm not one that says we just pray, because it is both. Prayers and confrontations. I think it's up to the invidual and where they are, and what they are able to do without leaving things they should do between them, God and their family, undone. Which the things we leave undone, will sometimes define us more than the things we do. Akin to a deadbeat dad, that happens to be very successful in society, work and everyone thinks his life is in order. Who truly at the end of the day, is nothing more than a loser dad trying to convince the world he has value, when he has no values himself.
Your wisdom is not lost on me. Thank you for the fellowship fren. I’ll continue to pray and seek His guidance in all I do.
God bless.
Here is a great way to find a biblical church.
https://tms.edu/find-a-church/
Andrew Tate is a CON MAN.
He is happy to STEAL MONEY from any dude, as long as he gets PAID.
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/139/274/243/original/4326c2e42adf3b38.mp4
Some things he says are valid, but he is an asshole. Ignore him.
The messenger (Tate) may very well be a POS, but the idea expressed in the video I shared stands. Please see my reply to TheDollarGeneral and feel free to chime in with your thoughts on the basic question I posited; at what point do Christians stand against evil? Or as Christians, should we ignore the evil of world and focus solely on those we know and love? What would Jesus want us to do?
It's 20 minutes. Plus, I don't believe that Tate believes anything he says. He might. He also might be bullshitting, because that is who he is.
If you want me to comment on the substance, give me a summary.
We should stand against evil. Always.
Ah shit. It is 20min. Corrected. Thank you.
It’s difficult to summarize without having watched the video. But I appreciate the input nonetheless.
But the Son and father are also seen as one in the same. Don’t get me wrong, I’m Christian, but with my eyes wide open, God is God is God, including his born earthly form of Christ, or His Son. But God regardless of religious book is the one and same God. Just different human points of view and faith towards the same Being, the 1 true God to all.
I appreciate that you view it like that. You're entitled. But to the way I see things, none of what you have re-recited contradicts what I am saying.
I firmly believe in a higher standard where the contradictions are resolved, but I understand that not everyone sees that.
The fact that Christ is the doorway, and the key to salvation does not preclude the truth that God has worked in myriad ways to being all of humanity to Christ.
Why did the Father prepare the Israelite nation for 2000 years before sending Jesus? Random? No reason?
The truth of our Christian history is that our theological deliberations for the past 2000 years are limited. Failure to recognize that puts one, I believe, in the very serious danger of becoming those who actually hinder the work of God instead of advancing it, as Jesus himself warned:
On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
Thanks for responding.
You completely missed the anon's point: Not ALL of these religions actually follow the SAME god.
See Rev 3:9 as an example.
I did not miss the anon's point. I disagreed with it; specifically, the anon's particular theological viewpoint.
Theology doesn't save. Christ does.
I agree with you, actually, but I do think that all people of faith COULD unite behind the idea of the one thing all free persons want to experience - being left alone.
The problem is, there are psychopaths in this world who will just NOT leave people alone.
We must first recognize this FACT OF LIFE.
Then, we must DO something about it by shining light on these assholes, and then putting them in prison.
That takes ACTION, not merely faith.
yeah, the psychopaths who won't leave people alone end up in elected and unelected positions and positions of power such as running social media companies.
Yes haha! Then there is that too. ;)
This is what we don’t need right now, being divisive. This is what God is trying to get across. Listen outside the box Anon. It’s time to accept we whom believe in thee 1 God, all love or have faith in the same God period. No other explanation needed.
Stop with the New Age beliefs.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
But only if you follow the New Testament. For 2 of our largest God following religions, and many even Christian sects, they do not fully go in full faith of Christ alone being the only way.
But all of them regardless of sect, follow the Old Testament which only has 1 God. The Father if you will. That’s what I’m getting at as a joining point. Upon God himself outside of Christ, John, Paul, Mohammad, James Smith, etc. the commonality of all 1 God religions/sects is God himself. It is the tie that should bind. But instead humanity has chosen to discount each other up all the way to killing each other periodically over the differences in belief/faith, when at the center of it all is 1 dude, 1 God only. Not 4, 5, or 600 different variants, but one and the same God.
Whether you follow the new testament or not is irrelevant. Jesus is lord of all.
Agreed.
I disagree. Jesus is God is what I'm "dividing" off of. Dont even go down that road.
Is this censorship?
I have a direct relationship with God and no relationship with Jesus or any other human-constructed intermediary.
I have no religion, New Age or otherwise.
Awakening involves accepting some unpleasant truths ... unpleasant, only at first, perhaps.
Jesus is “human-constructed???” That is illogical on so many levels.
A character in a book written by human scribes (in Hebrew, I understand).
You offer not one example of illogicality, just a spray of ...... nothing.
( "It's illogical because
it isandeveryone knows it" ) ?I'll take the downvotes as slings and arrows. Thanks!
Downvotes will be the least of your worries, my friend. Jesus is returning soon, and this time around will be a time of His wrath.
Oh, noes ... (h)e's put you in charge of dispensing (h)is wrath.
I guess I picked on the wrong zealot 😜
Brother, what we need more than anything is truth. I must qualify my statement and I pray to do it in love because I know what I’m capable of.
Truth—the very nature and essence of eternal, objective, and moral truth—comes from God the Creator, Savior, and author of Scripture (the Bible). It stands alone and is self-authenticating. Any ideology, religion, or text (all others than Scripture alone) that contradict God and His Word are unacceptable and must be rightly rejected. The exclusivity of God and His truth, then, are by nature, set apart in division from all others.
Islam, for example, does not believe in the God of the Bible nor the Bible. The distinction between Christianity and Islam (which is not a denomination of Christianity) is the subject of atonement. Atonement is the covering over and total removal as of sin by way of the death of the Son of God in His sacrifice to atone for our sin. Islam, however, utterly rejects both the concept and necessity of atonement. Exhibit A (sauce): https://www.gotquestions.org/same-God.html
In Islam, Jesus, or P’bu, was merely a prophet (not divine and not the Son of God) and according to their eschatology (theology of the end of the age) P’bu returns to correct the Christians on this matter. Furthermore, the Mahdi (and Dajjal, his cohort) return to “shatter crosses,” the cross being the very instrument of the sacrificial death of Christ in Christian text, the Bible.
Given Islam is diametrically opposed to atonement and rejects Trinitarian theology (even in their Shahada—there is only “one God”), therefore Islam is not qualified as a denomination since it is an entirely different religion altogether. God, by nature of Himself, according to His truth, would never violate logic, reason, or truth. Nor would He contradict or deny Himself.
I understand the urgency of people from every religion among humanity needing to hold fast together against the deep state, but our trust and faith is the very foundation and hope on which all human history hinges and stands upon. Consequently, even to the fine details of Q, the U.S., our history, our future, and the far-reaching implications and ripple effects to the ends of the earth (regarding the deep state, swamp, Satan etc.), we must, as Christians, not abandon our highest duty and calling to trust in Christ alone and proclaim the gospel.
The concept of division by the sword (faith in Christ dividing families, friends, loved ones etc.) extends even to the conclusion of human history regarding wars, rumors of wars, and nations rising up against each other, regardless of where precisely that lands on our perceived respective timelines and order of events (as they occur in Scripture). I urge you, brother ❤️, to seriously consider what it means to stand firm on and for the truth, God’s truth, His Word, and His promises. Our hope is in Christ alone. God bless you.
This should motivate us:
Romans 10:10-14 (ESV)
10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?
There is another hopeful movement, and that is unraveling Islam. It grew from the anti-Trinitarian Christians in Petra and was further perverted to serve the aims of some very wicked men. The proto-Koran was a book of hymns to Jesus. Check it out, this is a linguistic research which was suppressed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/8120819527?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
All the modern stuff is built on rumors and fantasy and if this isn't major satanic effort I don't know what is. Instead of hating on the Muslims we should be praying for mercy for them in their deception.
There are others like him. Personally, I think the appeal of Islam is its (surface) unity and dogmatism. You can't question it, therefore you are spared thinking about it. Just do what you are told (the five pillars) and hope for mercy at judgement. No need to worry if you are doing enough, or doing it right, because Allah makes no promises, it's all up to him.
Imo the Koran is the weakest thing in Islam, full of contradictions, all messed up because of the doctrine of abrogation, but I know one person at least who admires its construction because he doesn't understand the abrogation and the fact that the regular Koran is not in order of its "revelation" (also very questionable because the man generally known as Mohammed may not have been named that (Qotham) or even existed). There are lofty, poetical passages, those are what people notice and remember.
On abrogation, which is basically hacking the Koran to suit the narrative:
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/105746/abrogation-in-the-quran-and-the-order-of-its-soorahs-and-verses
Example (so it's a wiki, you can look up the surahs yourself): https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Abrogations_in_the_Qur%27an
Look down to the second table, which starts with 2:115 changed sometime in the 1500s to 2:144. It refers to the qibla, which shows the direction to pray. The oldest qiblas pointed to Petra. By this later date Mecca had been invented, and I think that's a fair description, so all the qiblas had to be redirected. Thus the Koran had to be changed.
A Muslim actually put the Koran in reverse chronological order which shows the effect on the whole of abrogations (The Meaning of the Glorious Koran, still quite available.) Here's an article about it on a very anti- site : https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/01/understanding-abrogation-the-koran-in-reverse-chronological-order/
This is a modern effort in the same direction, which shows that the result is not such a nice handbook. It was immediately banned in England. I immediately bought a copy and all you can find on Robinson now is a book called Enemy of the State. Worth a hunt. Tommy Robinson, “Mohammed’s Koran – Why Muslims Kill For Islam” which was published in July 2017.
I can tell you why, though. First the Koran tells believers to do it, this is a fruitful field of contradictions. More important is Islamic eschatology. Remember Islam was originally Christian. They also hold to the idea that in the last days, Jesus will return and slay evil, especially the Jews, and then a Caliphate will again rule over Jerusalem. Well, there's only one Jesus, no substitute possible. But He will have a very important companion, the Mahdi (or Mehdi), and this will be a military commander. Anyone could be the Mahdi! Remember Al-Baghdadi? He was the latest one. So killing for Allah could be a stepping stone for someone to usher in the apocalypse.
Yeah, I’d heard about the changes in the direction of prayer before, but everything else is new info to me. Thanks for the deep dive. I still believe Islam is not compatible with western Christian culture, but given all the LGBT culture of today, who would want to be? But I digress, the point is that Islam is a dangerous religion once you scratch below the surface. It does a great job at controlling people though so it’s no surprise the deep state loves it.
I just discovered a site, zlib.pub, where you can download Robinson's book for free, and another one kicking the hornets nest Did Mohammed Exist? by Robert Spencer, new edition. Islam isn't Christian but it could not even exist without Christianity and Judaism. Jesus and Mary take up a huge part of the Koran. What stumps so many people is the idea of the Triune God. If Jesus were not divine in nature, or at least equal in authority and power, it would certainly change things. Personally I think there are plenty of instances in the Old Testament that allow a triune interpretation, and even some in the Koran, another area of contradiction..
Here’s a truth for you. (ALLAH). Doesn’t mean GOD OF ISLAM. Because Arab Christians and Arab Jews call God ALLAH also it’s the ARABIC equivalent of GOD.
Arabic-speaking Christians call God Allah. That may be jarring to modern day US Christians (who tend to think of Allah as “the god of Islam”), but the term existed in the Arabic world long before Islam arrived on the scene, and it is the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew word Elohim.
English is about 1500 years old. Arabic is over 2500 years old.
Splitting hairs and changing the context in which I referred to God (from the perspective of Muslims who are not Christians) does not somehow make your statement a legitimate or meaningful response or rebuttal to what I said.
My overall argument is the denial of the Trinity and the necessity of atonement, not names and titles of different cultures as relating to God.
In your argument, people who believe in Christ as Savior use the title Allah in accordance with their language and culture. In my argument, devout Muslims reject Jesus as Savior and the need for atonement.
The nature and spirit of debate depends on listening, interpreting, properly representing opposing views, and then responding to those statements and beliefs.
Devote Muslims believe that Jesus is a miracle human being born from the Virgin Mary and spoke in infancy. Just because he was a miracle doesn’t give him divinity for example Adam was created not Born therefore he should be considered Divine before Jesus but he’s not he’s just a human being flesh and bones who got the miracle of is a prophet of (God) Allah.
In Islam prophet Jesus is the longest living human being in existence he’s still alive and never died on the cross. Muslims Believe that GOD (Allah) cast another miracle on Jesus by ascending him to heaven and replaced him with a replica, the Jews thought they crucified Jesus but he’s still alive in heaven. And in due time he will come back to strike the anti christ. “المسيح الدجال” and unite All Christians and Muslims under one religion Islam.
The word Islam means “surrenderance” you surrender your body and soul to the will of God (Allah) and testify that Mohamed is the messenger of Allah. the Quran calls Christians the misguided and Jews the people that GOD is angry at them. The first verse in the Quran says it. “الفاتحة”.
Even the Quran mentions that in day of judgement Christians will go to Jesus and say but you said you’re the son of God Jesus denies it and says it’s the devil who put this idea in your head and I never claimed to be the son of god.
I just wanted to point out the the misconception the God is different than Allah in both religions.
Saying GOD or Allah references the deity for all Ibrahimic religions
Jesus repeatedly claimed to be God, it's why the Jews tried to stone Him multiple times. By rejecting Jesus' divinity, they imply Him to be a liar.
And in denying His death they deny the very reason Christ came to earth, by His own statement. Thus they make Christ and His disciples liars again.
Why do they say Jesus was a good man or good prophet when they deny everything that He is known to have said? If Christ is not God and did not die on the cross, then Jesus is either a madman or a liar, neither of which are congruous with being a good prophet.
Let's assume for sake of argument that Arabic Christians and early Christians used "Allah" to refer to the Christian God. (Early Christians would not have used Allah, they would have used the Greek Theos). That still does not mean that Islam and Christianity worship the same god. The difference in doctrine between the two religions, plus the vast difference in character between their respective deities, excludes the notion that they worship the same god, unless God is completely schizophrenic. Just because "God" and "Allah" both refer to omnipotent deities does not mean they refer to the same deity. Things that are different cannot be the same.
Others can say by accepting his death you say the GODs and their “Off springs” can be killed by their own creations “Humans”
If both religions fight against pedophilia and transgenderism I don’t see why we can’t look past our differences and unite hand in hand against this evil that’s destroying us slowly. Both religions want to protect their children and co-exist. Same GOD different GOD does it really matter? Religion is supposed to teach you how to co-exist with one another not find GOD because anyone can find proof of the existence of a higher power “GOD” even non-religious people. You might think this way but every Arab Christian, Arab Muslim And Arab Jew believes that it’s the SAME GOD. If you believe Islam is your enemy they don’t think that way in the Middle East and they co-existed for centuries way longer than the Vatican itself or our country’s existence. All three religions originated from that same region. Who are we to make differences? They believe in Jesus’s miracle birth to the Virgin Mary. They believe in Adam and Eve They believe in Moses they Believe in Noah and the Ark. they all believe in the same GOD but in Arabic they call him Allah. That’s a fact people here in the states need to accept. Not accepting this fact is arrogance at the highest level because we are not the center of Christianity nor Judaism or Islam. And believe me GOD doesn’t need us to defend him. We’re not his agents. It’s not a dick measuring contest. when judgement day arrives GOD IS THE ULTIMATE JUDGE (Jesus’s father not Jesus himself) and btw All 3 religions believe in judgement day just like they believe in heaven and hell.
The United States of America is the land of freedom where you can practice your religion and beliefs freely.
I believe that history is tainted by fake Imams, Priests and Rabbis with agendas to politicize religion and stir hatred amongst us.
You didn’t get the chance to live in the Middle East I did and I’m speaking from my experience. I speak both Arabic and English fluently.
And the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Here this is Genesis 1:1-5 in Arabic:
Google translate it if you don’t believe me.
Allah (God) mentioned 6 times in the Arabic version opposed to 5 in English.
الله = Allah = GOD
1 في البدء خلق الله السماوات والارض. 2 وكانت الارض خربة وخالية، وعلى وجه الغمر ظلمة، وروح الله يرف على وجه المياه. 3 وقال الله: «ليكن نور»، فكان نور. 4 وراى الله النور انه حسن. وفصل الله بين النور والظلمة. 5 ودعا الله النور نهارا، والظلمة دعاها ليلا. وكان مساء وكان صباح يوما واحدا.
Sorry the truth hurts, deal with it on your own. The Holy bible was written in Arabic before it was written in English. Not my problem you can’t accept facts.
We do not believe in the same God. The same God believes in us: Father, son, and Holy Spirit. We do not determine who God is. God determines who we are.
Why does this new age cabal ideology get stickied. They will try to trick us all to join together and follow "God" together.
Funny how carnally anti one world order unity folks, fall for God uniting the world without Christ as the centerpiece. Which is the new world order in a nutshell lol
Your words were in my heart and mind before I found your comment. That gives me great comfort. It is the correct view that you’ve stated from 30,000 feet. ❤️
Yes
There's a lot of New Age stuff in the Q movement cloaked in Christianity
Such as?
This post, for starters.
Hidden secrets in our DNA.
The religious fervor with which people trust the plan and associate Q with God.
Wwg1wga
Why do so many Christians limit their concept of God to what is written?
Holy though the Old & New Testaments are, they do not describe all aspects of God or his creation.
Because only the Bible has been proven to be authentic, reliable, infallible, and the inspired Word of God.
Every other religion, including Judaism, Islam, Roman Catholicism, JW’s, and Mormons, all contain doctrine that directly contradicts the Bible in some way. And if two different sources contradict each other, then both cannot be true. According to the rules of logic, A and not A cannot both be true at the same time.
If God is all powerful and all knowing, then we can trust Him to give us all the information we need regarding spiritual matters. Chasing other sources because you think God is hiding some secret knowledge from you is fruitless and dangerous. In fact, that idea is precisely the lie that the serpent told Eve.
God did indeed give us everything we need to guide us; it is written on our hearts.
What you say relies on many assumptions of the mind.
God has given each person a conscience, and innate knowledge that He exists, but that conscience is often corrupted or ignored for men to pursue their own lusts. That is why He gave us His written Word, which is a more permanent and objective source of revelation.
“This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” Hebrews 10:16
"I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” Jeremiah 31
"And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts." 2 Corinthians 3:3
"Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life." Proverbs 4:23
"For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus." Romans 2:14-16
There are many passages such as this, which paint a broader picture than the one you cite. God has written everything we need to know on our hearts, like a map. Conscience is the compass within our minds. A person can go their whole life without picking up a bible, and still be welcomed into the kingdom of heaven.
Setting aside the fact that the modern bible is far different from the original writings and has been altered many times, literal interpretation leads to all kinds of pitfalls. Every passages must be considered in the context of the whole.
The context of these verses matters.
Hebrews 10 is quoting Jeremiah 31, and the context of these passages taken together is talking specifically about those who have been born again, those who have accepted Christ as their Savior. If you have not accepted Christ, these verses do not apply. The same goes for 2 Corinthians 3. That rules out the Muslims and Jews, as both groups reject Christ as Lord and Savior.
Furthermore, Jeremiah and Hebrews speak of God writing His law in our hearts. His Law is the written Word. So if someone claims that God has laid something on their heart, but it contradicts scripture, then what the person is claiming is not of God, but of their own imagination.
Proverbs 4 admonishes us to guard our hearts precisely because they are deceitful and wicked. Lastly, Paul's argument in Romans 2 is for why all men are condemned under sin, because everyone knows to some degree what is right and what is wrong. Yet still they are not saved, because many men will still reject God.
OP's assertion is that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same God. This is patently false, as the teachings of all three religions are mutually incompatible. Either God is completely schizophrenic and self-contradictory, or only one religion at most is true.
I disagree with some of your interpretations, most significantly your assertion that the Word of God specifically refers to written word.
This isn't a place for debating interpretations though, and there's really no point.
I believe it is very important to have an open mind when interpreting scripture, and to always remember that the corrupt influence of man has added, changed, and removed many things.
Jesus is God. You sound like their new age one world religion talk.
I agree, but I dont trust the churches.
Went to the local megachurch and the “Pastor” invited a guest “Pastor” to speak. He was a black dude. Nobody thought anything about it until he started speaking and his “sermon” was all about how the local police harassed his son.
WTF?
It was right after the whole “I Can’t Breathe” and George Floyd is a saint bullshit.
The local cops were more likely to ignore or be overly polite to anyone black much less pull them over and rough them up for no reason.
It was all I could do to not stand up and start yelling bullshit!
My duty as a Christian is to spread the Good News, that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, and he has given us a path for eternal life, all we have to do is follow his simple rule of Love, and to HIM as GOD. However, I do not believe God the Father, who created all, would condemn to hell a person who was raised in another faith, from birth, who also believed that their faith was the true path. Perhaps they do not get to share eternity, but I do not think they get sent to hell. Sinners who do not repent, who choose sin willingly, are damned. Not some child born in a country that suppresses Christianity and calls it evil. When Christ comes again, all who have died will have another chance to accept him, those who died in ignorance, in slavery, even in sin, will have one more chance to come into the embrace of the Lord Jesus.
I think the important thing as a Christian is not to elevate our belief as if it even matters. We don't get to decide. We don't get to dictate that - ONLY GOD. What happens after life is God's domain alone. But stating to others that "I believe" someone goes to hell or "I believe" no one goes to hell - well, it's pure folly. It's nonsense. Best to concentrate on what is clear in the Bible - how we are to live, and how we are to treat others, and how we are to share the good news - the Gospel.
All men go to God through Christ, but I think He makes efforts we don't know about to get them. It does not have to mean "All men go to God through Christ as I understand Him in my church."
People can only receive God's free gift of eternal life by believing in Jesus Christ.
Acts 4:12 - “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”
Johhn 14:6 - Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me."
We need to see people organize. Something to consider. When evil is winning it will also be on the opposing team.
The road is narrow. Jesus is the way.
I respectfully disagree my friend...wholeheartedly disagree! This sounds all warm and fuzzy and Kumbaya-ish, but it's not true. God doesn't need to need those who refuse the deity of His One and Only Son to accomplish His purpose. I do agree that Christianity (true Chrisitanity...God's true Church) is growing and that the gates of hell will not overcome it, but this idea that God is "joining forces" with the likes of false gods is heretical and totally against His nature. He cannot do it.
Now He may use them to accomplish His purposes similar to the way God used the Romans to destroy Jerusalem in 70AD, but God didn't join forces with them. In that instance, both the Romans and the Jews were the enemies of God and they BOTH were eventually destroyed. The same in this case...true, Biblical Christianity will ultimately take over the entire world (without Islam, or any other false religion).
I hope it doesn't seem like I am splitting hairs here, but It's important to understand that God isn't a Multi-cultural God. It's His way and His way only and if your belief system or culture doesn't recognize His Son and His Deity and what He did on the cross and that He rose from the dead...then that belief system is anti-Christ and will have no part in the Kingdom of God on this earth or in Heaven. As Jesus said, "I Am The Way, The Life and The Truth and NO ONE comes to the Father except through ME!" I know this really upsets people, but I didn't say it...Jesus (God the Son) said it...and He historically rose from the dead to prove it!
Ecumenicalism is not Scriptural! Jews rejected the one and only Messiah, Muslims worship a false God (Satan actually), the many religions of the world worship false gods who cannot see, speak, hear, or move and are powerless. The so called "christian" cults also worship "another Jesus" ( who is false).
If its Biblical, that means one of the many outcomes of the Great Awakening will be Muslims and Jews and Hindus converting to Christianity. If it is uniting religions, then it isn't biblical so you are saying Q is wrong.
Q is never religious specific except on God period. He may call out certain events that are religiously connected, but Q never singles out a religion that is a must, except in naming God to follow and have faith in.
Not trying to be confrontational, but your original post got me to digging so I thank you for that. Biblical implies the Christian Bible only. Q+ is Trump who is Christian. Drop 4541 is very Christian, it even includes Christ.
Ya. Ya missed the mark here bro. There are not many gods. There is one God.
It's generally fair to say Jews and Christians worship the same God, altho we disagree on whether Jesus was his son or the promised Messiah. I dont think it's accurate at all to include Islam. After researching the subject I'd say the most likely identity of "Allah" is a tribal moon god from Mohammed's hometown. When he decided to take his religion global he didnt have the writing chops to invent the lore from scratch so he plagiarized existing religious texts.
This is why I can’t “coexist” with Muslims. The entire belief system is based on the fact that Muhammad couldn’t read or write and he had his “wise men” take parts of already existing religious texts to create his own. It’s all a farce.
The main premise of the article is correct.
The Body of Christ is not an organization, it's not a human organization, the Body of Christ is an organism, a spiritual body. Jesus Christ arose from the dead, now the Spirit of Christ is in humanity through faith and spiritual rebirth.
That's the powerful sword of God that says I will no longer be governed by corruption of any sort. My government is Jesus Christ conquering all humanity.
Jesus answered "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the father except through me."
It DOES matter what God we believe in, Jesus made this explicitly clear. Do not water this down.
Here is an awesome resource That is available for people that want to know what the bible really is all about. This is something people can get together around.
https://bibleproject.com/
There is a reason there are many "religions". The common theme is an understanding that there is something besides us.
So in that sense I can see what you are saying.
Still religion is religion. Religion as NOTHING to do with God. It is a box we construct to fit the idea of a god into. There are many boxes to fit the gods we want to worship.
The cabal has their god(s) that they worship. Those gods are not the same as the God of the bible. There is no common ground between them.
We are NOT called to religion. We are INDIVIDALLY called to seek God. That is where truth is. We were created by Him and we were designed by Him to have a relationship with Him. That is where we find purpose, peace, understanding.
We are also called to seek him with others that are also seeking him. Matthew 18:20 For where two or three gather together IN MY NAME, there am I in the midst of them. it is important to seek others in your walk with God.
That has been twisted to mean church. Nothing wrong with church unless you allow church to replace God.
I will do my best to seek the God of the bible. I will encourage others doing the same. I understand that God has changed me over the years. I cannot expect others to be at the same place on this path that I am. So I am very careful judging. For the measure we judge is the measure we will be judged (Matt 7:2)
Still there is some common ground that all true seekers have.
Understanding that God's plan is this. We are forgiven for any and all trespasses. because He had His Son pay the price for us. When we walk with Jesus God sees us though His son. So In that we are perfect. That is our starting point
Pretty much everything else is just religion.
I was saying that religion has nothing to do with God. Not the other way around.
We are called to a personal relationship With God. Almost always religion replaces that personal relationship with the "good things" that the religion talks about.
I am not saying that all religion is bad. But the bottom line is this. Religion is man made and like everything else man made tends to draw in power to itself.
While churches don't preach this in practice this is what happens. the leaders of the church teach something on Sunday (or whatever day) and for many they have replaced seeking God with listening to the professionals at the church. The church gets more power over people from that. I am not saying that the leaders of the church are planning it that way. It is just the very nature of man made things.
BTW the ancient Israelite's were being shown a way that was different from everyone around them at the time. God reached them where they were at and showed them the way forward. The people still failed to even follow that.
We are called to a personal walk with God. Religion attempts to structure that walk. It sounds noble but as always the devil really is in the details. In many cases the structure takes over. Because it is easier to trust the structure that you can see and feel than to trust God who you can't see.
We can’t get a single minister or pastor of any denomination to come to school board meetings and speak against porn in the public school libraries. There’s not a single minister or pastor who will lead his flock in public demonstrations the way that black churchmen did in the civil rights movement.
So, please let me know when they “really fight back “.
It must start somewhere. And it is, and will grow in near time.
I just watched The Pope's Exorcist and think it's worth watching as predictive programming, which should perhaps be called devil's required warning programming.
It is hard to put aside the arrogance of man. God must help.
I pray that God helps us.
🙏🏻🔥
Too bad your effort to show any hope of movement toward sense or moral unity immediately got hijacked into a "they are all going to hell" thread. Is that righteousness or lack of faith in God to work out a way to save a maximum number of souls?
People may not believe that they love the same God, but there's only One Prime Creator, Universal Mind, The Great Mystery...
...and because there are so many cultures and traditions and races on the planet, there will be a number of different pathways to God. It isn't such a stretch to think that God chooses different forms to appeal to different cultures. Certainly, that doesn't mean we can't respect the faith of another.
Spirituality is exactly that...the Spirit that animates all Life, in one web of Creation. The One surely does not want us to be going at one another over which image we have of who God is.
Thanks for sharing these articles. Wonderful to see people fighting back. The Breitbart article contains a good phrase… “They are woke resistant…” (referring to Muslim immigrants.) I see arguments here about your beliefs, and I want to say I agree with your statement above. All who love God banding together is a wonderful thing.
Why is anyone calling this new age? It boils down to...
Between Christians, Jews, and Muslims, the majority of the US shares roughly similar views on the LGBT agenda because of the shared roots of being Abrahamic religion.
The only thing different is the concept of God. Jews are still waiting for a messiah. And honestly, some of you less than awakened Christians circle jerk Paul as hard as Muslims do Muhammad.
But here is my real position, we do not need theocracy to change public discourse. Religion has nothing to do with why the LGBT agenda is harmful or why we need to protect children. It is best to present this position as a logical, fact baaed argument because liberalism is as unhinged and baseless as the worst religion
I pray that this happens in the UK as well, our churches and vicars slavishly follow the government line.
I’m Christian and myself believe in Christ our God. But it’s really sad when people of all the same God miss the point of the main post. For those that get the post, will not flame further. For those that flame the post or this response, I won’t need to say any more beyond.
Numerically speaking, God cannot be anything other than totality, or ONE. Some religions (or religous interpretations) thrive on division, so will naturally have a hard time with this concept.
Dont forget, there may be some good priests out their, but the church are majority pedo faggots…. Follow them at your own peril…
Nearly all of them are pedos, abused children abusing children. The church is probably the largest pedo ring on the planet. They go to great lengths to protect their pedos.