These types of thing always give me pause bout the plan because Jews are behind a lot of things wrong including the NGO’S that’s bringing all the illegals across and also in charge of all the major news media just to name a few
The book of revelation says that there will be a man that will rise up and claim peace, peace for all nations. I’m sorry, but this sounds a little bit antichrist-ish. I’m not saying he is, I’m just saying, we’re studying the book right now and it kind of lines up. I’m cautious about everything.
Some people tend to forget how often God said in the bible to "FEAR NOT for I am with you"..
Your fear feeds those you fear making those you fear stronger while making you weaker by weakening your connection to God.
Obviously our adversaries attack our hearts and minds 24/7 with tempting fear porn, including adversaries wearing Christian camo.
Consequently, rather than feeding fears, please consider heeding Your Fathers warning command to FEAR NOT.
Then focus on learning how to live the first words of the only prayer Christ taught us to say to Our Father " Fathef, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
Fortunately, Our Father made His will clear by saying it over and over and over again in the bible.
FEAR NOT for I am with you (and I LOVE you).
Perhaps start at the beginning rather than the end?
Who said I was afraid? I’m not fearful. So I’m not sure where you got that tone. I’m not worried at all. The more I see the world burn, the more excited I get that Christ is coming.
I love the lord with my whole heart, and yes, I have every day frustrations like everyone else, but being fearful of the future is not one of them.
I am a daughter of the king, I have the Holy Spirit living inside of me, and I look to God’s Word daily to guide me in the way He would have me go.
However, your advice is spot - for those who are fearful. This world is so full of fear porn, it’s just oozing from every MSM outlet. Sometimes that’s the only comment I make on a thread. Fear porn!
Thank you for being so gracious. Also thank you for asking a question.
From my experience, worry is typically a mild response to what is feared but is not yet fearful enough to be recognized as fear.
Consequently I went straight to the bibles advice about fear since I believed, based on your comment, that those words could be heard.
Unsurprisingly, the bible also warns about worry. For example, Christ commanded His followers "Let not your heart be troubled". In other words " Worry not" AND "Fear not". 😘
There are More requirements then seeking peace. Many men seek to bring peace. The anti Christ will be well liked I believe it says and will deny Christ. Amongst other things. Yes be cautious but also don't let seeking to have peace turn someone Into any anti Christ.
I'm praying for you. Revelation studies tend to get dark and bring down people. Make sure u are spending time reading positive stuff as well. Like the gospels maybe. Also remember the message of revelation is not the anti Christ or seeking to figure out who it is. The message is to remain in faith to Christ till the end. Whatever that may be. Jesus will come and he protects his flock
The anti Christ will be well liked, and will deny Christ. --- Remember the message of revelation is not the anti Christ or seeking to figure out who it is. The message is to remain in faith to Christ till the end. Whatever that may be. Jesus will come and he protects his flock
Oh, I agree with everything you just said. I’m not painting of wide brush, stroke. I’m just saying.
Also, I don’t find the book of revelation to be dark at all. We’ve been going through it with a fine tooth comb, and to be perfectly honest… I love studying this book. There is a lot to learn, and there’s a lot of mystery still there. But it’s been really interesting and the woman who’s doing the study really loves the Lord and is a great teacher and leader.
I am from the school of pre-TRIB. So I do not fear of the book of revelation, it literally states that if you study that book you will be blessed! So knowing that I will not be here during that time, makes it a much more enjoyable study.
But yes, I do feel bad for people who will be left behind, because they’re going to have a hard life for seven years. One of my plans is to get a Bible for my daughter, and leave her instructions in the event she is left behind. She was raised a Christian, and hopefully she will come back to the Lord. I don’t know if she truly ever accepted him because she completely denies Christ now. But I will be leaving a letter for her in a Bible, so she’ll know what to do when the time comes.
In the meantime, I’m praying for her salvation, so she doesn’t have to go through that horrific time.
Thank you for the encouragement and admonishment! Yes, I know there are a lot more other requirements for the antichrist, but I just find it interesting that Israel is crying, peace, peace, and the antichrist is supposed to bring peace to this world. But yes, they will deny Christ and Donald Trump does has not done that. Yet!
Have u ever looked Into the other camps (interestingly they all have scripture to support) or the cons of pre trib just curious
Shouldbt we seek to walk with Christ in such a way that we could endure the tribulation or anything thrown at us. Rather then just say oh we won't have to. Remember it's called the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" told to John in the spirit.
Just providing some counter thoughts hope they aren't taken negatively. Oh and I love that u wanna leave her a note.
Does it really matter what I think? No! God’s going to do with God’s going to do. Whether I’m taken in the clouds, or left here to suffer for another seven years, it really doesn’t matter what I think.
This is the way I look at it…
We are the bride of Christ! I know Christ is a gentleman, and I can’t imagine him, wanting to beat up his bride - before she gets there.
Those last seven years on earth are going to be horrific, and I can’t imagine Christ putting his church, his believers, through such horrific times. Also… If the Holy Spirit is removed at that time, then how can we be here. The Holy Spirit lives in us.
I find it fascinating that people would want to stay here and suffer longer, like we haven’t had enough suffering already. It’s almost as if we are used to the abuse now, and now people think that we deserve it and should stay longer for that last seven years so we could be as miserable as possible.
We don’t need to suffer to earn salvation. Works are great, and they are a fruit of our salvation, however, on the cross, he did say it is finished. I rest in that daily.
You know me, I’m not an optimist. But on this one thing, I’m standing my ground.
But really, it doesn’t matter what we think. God’s gonna do what he’s gonna do. Just like today and always.
NO ONE CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING.
This is a biblical reference, though, because it doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what his word says.
Two places. 2 Thess 2: 6-12. And Rev 3:10 Jesus Himself promises us that we will not have to go through the time (hour) of testing.
There’s more, but I’m sure you have other scriptures to refute mine. And then we could argue about it, and it wouldn’t matter what we think anyway.
And no, I’m not bothered that you are questioning my theology. This has been an age old question for centuries. Even the greatest theologians argue about this. You get to think what you wanna think, and I’ll think what I think, and in the end… It doesn’t matter. God’s gonna do with God’s gonna do.
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Romans 12:2
“Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
“He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son.” (Colossians 1:13)
“Set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:13)
“But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.” (Philippians 3:20-21)
Not gonna dispute anything you said just sharing some verse that I keep close to heart. It's important everyone keep seeking and come to truth on there own
All throughout the bible God poured out his wrath while also keeping his people safe. 😁
Got any verses on God keeping His bride safe during the Tribulation? I don’t mean the people who later believe and repent and are saved… I mean the church now. If there is mention of the church and instructions to the church from Revelation 4 and until she descends with Christ after chapter 19, please share it to those who are suffering and wondering why they’re being judged.
Got any Bible verses that show the judgment of the hour of testing is not the whole world?
We will never ever know the complete truth of the Bible. It’s just a fact. Theologians have been debating for years and years and years and years and years.
When we stand before, the lord, then we will know. I’m OK with that. I don’t need all the answers. I can barely manage the answers. I have right now. Lol!
It’s really their last chance to decide. And there will be money that will not. They will still scoff at the name of the Lord. Their hearts will be so hardened - but there will be some tribulation saints.
I sent the story to my Bible study leader. Here’s what she returned to me.
AC -antichrist
HS -Holy Spirit
Israel has been crying for peace for centuries. And yes, some day, someone, the future AC, will bring peace to the whole world with a signed, 7 yr contract between him and Israel. And we will be out of here before that happens.
Because of our HS, will recognize him. An uneasiness. And 2 Thess tells us, the AC to be, can’t begin operations until the HS is out of here. That’s us.
No one knows the who-who. But be watchful. Could be anyone.
But people like Hal Lindsey and other prophecy teachers, say, he’ll come out of the Roman Empire. The empire of Johns day or at its zenith when the empire went to the UK.
More mid-eastern? And he’ll be a gentile.
I was told to always keep you eye on Israel for events to come. And a rabbi there, is claiming to be the messiah, and doing miracles? Satan can do strange things too don’t forget.
Again, just be watchful. Keep the oil lanterns burning.
If Revelation studies get dark, they're reading the entire book incorrectly. Typically this means a futurist interpretive lens is assumed. Figurative language and symbolic numbers are all taken literal. Timelines are concocted on questionable interpretive methods. Present circumstances (every generation!) get shoe-horned into the text, etc etc.
Revelation was written to audiences who were already undergoing dark experiences, and the motivation for the visions and letters that make up Revelation was to bring encouragement and joy. Its essentially the state of affairs on earth and in the Church from heaven's point of view. No greater comfort.
Yes I personally have felt breif moments of heaven as if I am starting through a glass darkly. I have a very intimate relationship with Jesus in soul+mind+body. He is my best friend.
I agree to a degree. I have talked to many different people with different views on the book. Yes it gets dark because they take there focus off the fact it's called the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Hallelujah Praise Jesus. We love u
Well let’s see, who appears at the second coming? Christ and all these angels, yeah? Who do see when you die? Christ, abc all his angels, yeah? Good people go where and bad people go where during the second coming? And what happens to people when they die?
Christ was clear he wasn’t coming back physically, and to watch out for anyone who said he had or was, and yet he made it very clear his disciples would be seeing him soon enough, right?
Did he lie? No. More likely than not, the scripture was altered or misunderstood. Christian obsession with the last days and the second coming and the tea leaf reading they engage in at sunday school with the book of revelation has been going on quite a bit long enough for me thank you very much.
You want a prophecy that hasn’t come true yet? Read Habakkuk. If you want an end times prophecy that likely still applies and that we can actually look forward to and work toward? That’s where you should be looking if you ask me.
"17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled."
Notice the keyword GIVE, when you vote a president into power its a Transfer of Power from the People to the president since he represents you.
It literally tells you the beast has to come into power by voting him in & with this symbolism you are right to feel red flags going off, ignore the down votes and stand firm with Jesus, people tend to forget who's important at the end of the day, Man or God & the moment you mention going against a "Man" they like they'll try anything to bring you down. Remember God always comes before Man. We have a 4 year presidential system and the beast is to rule for 3 1/2 months which is real convenient for our 4 year system.
Keep your head on a swivel & if anyone is upset over this, You're the problem. God Always Wins.
Trump and RFK jr are the biggest threats to the establishment on either side of the aisle, however both have to be literally maximum Zionist in order to avoid the headaches and obstacles that come with being Israel-critical in modern western political systems.
This requires a lifetime of never criticising Israel, just due to the sheer logistics. It will be the generations after The Great Awakening that are finally allowed to put their countries first. It had to be this way.
But kudos to the Israelis for setting up the system, I mean you really have to hand it to them. Peerless.
Well said fren. This is a such an important dividing point. We need to keep this in mind or the synagogue of Satan will forever be able to hide amongst the true Jews
people 60 years ago had no idea. Much easier to turn us against each other if the slaughter of our brothers and sisters was a solution to all of our problems. Not gonna work this time Demons...
The game of chess can only last so long. The enemy is in check. The best is yet to come. Hallelujah we love you Jesus
LOL - did you read where no less in the christian forum last year I said I don't play chess the 'common' way. Nope, I assign whatever enemies my Opponent's pieces, & then I capture them 1 by 1 (altho for some odd reason I nearly always lose 1/2 my Knight/cavalry). Soon, as the king is naked, I make him Tap-dance around whatever perimeter before he is done ---- drug-Free effective stress-Reliever :) in usually under 2 minutes. Of course, Jesus' restful 😊 peace is THE best
it's bigotry of low expectations to think Israel isn't a Nation capable of running black ops or wanting to do what it sees as best for its nation. All other opponents be damned. That's how we roll in US.
fedbois gonna be big mad we love the jews but hate the synagogue of satan. probably why Israel is saved for last. too much alt right bitchute nazi shit.
As Q pointed out, they pit as many groups as possible against each other so everyone is too busy hating and fighting each other to pose any real threat to their power. I now refer to these divide and conquer campaigns as Heil Hegel PsyOps.
As Q pointed out, Evil has infiltrated, with varyiing degrees of success, EVERY country,organization and religion. As the bible points out, "ONLY God is good".
Finally, I've found a line from the Baga Vad Gita to be helpful, especially when encountering a person who's in the muh joos phase of their journey, "the name that can be named is not the name".
I'm very glad that Trump has been clear that Jesus Christ is greater than him.
Thank goodness, that Trump is humble before Jesus, & setting a good example for others to follow... This nation, & the world needs a Mass-return to God as our All...
Not only that, they accused Him of being an insane, bastard child out of wedlock, blasphemer who would commit suicide (John 8) and then they Him put to death.
He came once and was rejected as the prophets foretold. That stance imo ultimately led to the result that the temple was destroyed, traditional practices could no longer go on, rabbinic and talmudic teaching replaced the prophets, and now ironically Christians (the messianic Jews) are the ones trying to reform Judaism to accept that messiah and all the past He represented. Meanwhile, today, even now, there is a major protest in Jerusalem over a proposed law that the Knesset will vote on tomorrow. As I understand it, it will increase the power of their supreme court to overrule legislators. Sounds familiar and not good. Israel has many fractious parties that can only rule by compromise. The supreme court could become dictators as in some states here.
"the Jews" is a favorite wall to hide behind for the enemy. most Jews have no more of an understanding on what is happening & how to stop it, than anyone here on this board or of any other faith or religion.
the Jews are not the "chosen" people. everybody alive at the time Jesus Christ walked the Earth was "the chosen people". EVERY BODY.
HE chose that TIME & those people to arrive here & give us a second chance by defeating death.
we are ALL as big of sinners as those who killed Jesus. you either believe in HIM or you don't. You are either BORN AGAIN, or you aren't.
no good deeds get you into Heaven. You must be reconciled & Jesus is the only mediator.
the enemy will throw whatever lies he can think of & will hide behind whatever veil he can find, to trick, deceive & test us.
I put no faith into ANY man, that includes Trump. I put my faith 100% with my Lord & Savior Jesus Christ & God Almighty The Creator.
No president, no pope, no architect, no grand master of a lodge, no priest, no paster, no other "father" or "mother".... only HIM.
For those saying Christians won't receive tribulation, I guess those beheaded just kneeled to pray too quickly. Driving accidents involving logging trucks? Nope. The world will hate you and even behead you. Does that mean Christ's bride is beheaded? That is worldly thinking. We are to worship in spirit. The enemy cannot behead your spirit.
Revelation 20:4 KJV
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages.
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The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
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For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled.
18
The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
Why does this sound like the fall of America by those who wish to run her dry. It seems if this prostitute is America, as she has slept with many peoples of the earth, basically making alliances and breaking them and making new alliances. Then our demise is not only inevitable, but on purpose by the will of YAweh
Q=17, Revelation Chapter 17, Verse 17 : For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled.
Basically this states you have to vote the beast into power.
The "Mark" of the Beast could mean the "Mark" you make when selecting the President. Q Did state its going to be "Biblical" and has stated numerous times to "Read the Bible". This could be why & For that reason even if the chance is 0.0001% I'm not voting this Season because there is nothing more important than God & keeping the faith while dodging all these deception land mines.
These types of thing always give me pause bout the plan because Jews are behind a lot of things wrong including the NGO’S that’s bringing all the illegals across and also in charge of all the major news media just to name a few
The book of revelation says that there will be a man that will rise up and claim peace, peace for all nations. I’m sorry, but this sounds a little bit antichrist-ish. I’m not saying he is, I’m just saying, we’re studying the book right now and it kind of lines up. I’m cautious about everything.
Some people tend to forget how often God said in the bible to "FEAR NOT for I am with you"..
Your fear feeds those you fear making those you fear stronger while making you weaker by weakening your connection to God.
Obviously our adversaries attack our hearts and minds 24/7 with tempting fear porn, including adversaries wearing Christian camo.
Consequently, rather than feeding fears, please consider heeding Your Fathers warning command to FEAR NOT.
Then focus on learning how to live the first words of the only prayer Christ taught us to say to Our Father " Fathef, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
Fortunately, Our Father made His will clear by saying it over and over and over again in the bible.
FEAR NOT for I am with you (and I LOVE you).
Perhaps start at the beginning rather than the end?
Who said I was afraid? I’m not fearful. So I’m not sure where you got that tone. I’m not worried at all. The more I see the world burn, the more excited I get that Christ is coming.
I love the lord with my whole heart, and yes, I have every day frustrations like everyone else, but being fearful of the future is not one of them.
I am a daughter of the king, I have the Holy Spirit living inside of me, and I look to God’s Word daily to guide me in the way He would have me go.
However, your advice is spot - for those who are fearful. This world is so full of fear porn, it’s just oozing from every MSM outlet. Sometimes that’s the only comment I make on a thread. Fear porn!
Thanks for your valuable input!
Thank you for being so gracious. Also thank you for asking a question.
From my experience, worry is typically a mild response to what is feared but is not yet fearful enough to be recognized as fear.
Consequently I went straight to the bibles advice about fear since I believed, based on your comment, that those words could be heard.
Unsurprisingly, the bible also warns about worry. For example, Christ commanded His followers "Let not your heart be troubled". In other words " Worry not" AND "Fear not". 😘
Bottom line, God bless you anon. Bon voyage.
Wow I love this.
Starring through the glass darkly. Heaven is at hand !
There are More requirements then seeking peace. Many men seek to bring peace. The anti Christ will be well liked I believe it says and will deny Christ. Amongst other things. Yes be cautious but also don't let seeking to have peace turn someone Into any anti Christ.
I'm praying for you. Revelation studies tend to get dark and bring down people. Make sure u are spending time reading positive stuff as well. Like the gospels maybe. Also remember the message of revelation is not the anti Christ or seeking to figure out who it is. The message is to remain in faith to Christ till the end. Whatever that may be. Jesus will come and he protects his flock
Well said, Again :)
Oh, I agree with everything you just said. I’m not painting of wide brush, stroke. I’m just saying.
Also, I don’t find the book of revelation to be dark at all. We’ve been going through it with a fine tooth comb, and to be perfectly honest… I love studying this book. There is a lot to learn, and there’s a lot of mystery still there. But it’s been really interesting and the woman who’s doing the study really loves the Lord and is a great teacher and leader.
I am from the school of pre-TRIB. So I do not fear of the book of revelation, it literally states that if you study that book you will be blessed! So knowing that I will not be here during that time, makes it a much more enjoyable study.
But yes, I do feel bad for people who will be left behind, because they’re going to have a hard life for seven years. One of my plans is to get a Bible for my daughter, and leave her instructions in the event she is left behind. She was raised a Christian, and hopefully she will come back to the Lord. I don’t know if she truly ever accepted him because she completely denies Christ now. But I will be leaving a letter for her in a Bible, so she’ll know what to do when the time comes.
In the meantime, I’m praying for her salvation, so she doesn’t have to go through that horrific time.
Thank you for the encouragement and admonishment! Yes, I know there are a lot more other requirements for the antichrist, but I just find it interesting that Israel is crying, peace, peace, and the antichrist is supposed to bring peace to this world. But yes, they will deny Christ and Donald Trump does has not done that. Yet!
Have u ever looked Into the other camps (interestingly they all have scripture to support) or the cons of pre trib just curious
Shouldbt we seek to walk with Christ in such a way that we could endure the tribulation or anything thrown at us. Rather then just say oh we won't have to. Remember it's called the "Revelation of Jesus Christ" told to John in the spirit.
Just providing some counter thoughts hope they aren't taken negatively. Oh and I love that u wanna leave her a note.
Does it really matter what I think? No! God’s going to do with God’s going to do. Whether I’m taken in the clouds, or left here to suffer for another seven years, it really doesn’t matter what I think.
This is the way I look at it…
We are the bride of Christ! I know Christ is a gentleman, and I can’t imagine him, wanting to beat up his bride - before she gets there.
Those last seven years on earth are going to be horrific, and I can’t imagine Christ putting his church, his believers, through such horrific times. Also… If the Holy Spirit is removed at that time, then how can we be here. The Holy Spirit lives in us.
I find it fascinating that people would want to stay here and suffer longer, like we haven’t had enough suffering already. It’s almost as if we are used to the abuse now, and now people think that we deserve it and should stay longer for that last seven years so we could be as miserable as possible.
We don’t need to suffer to earn salvation. Works are great, and they are a fruit of our salvation, however, on the cross, he did say it is finished. I rest in that daily.
You know me, I’m not an optimist. But on this one thing, I’m standing my ground.
But really, it doesn’t matter what we think. God’s gonna do what he’s gonna do. Just like today and always.
NO ONE CAN STOP WHAT IS COMING.
This is a biblical reference, though, because it doesn’t matter what I think. It matters what his word says.
Two places. 2 Thess 2: 6-12. And Rev 3:10 Jesus Himself promises us that we will not have to go through the time (hour) of testing.
There’s more, but I’m sure you have other scriptures to refute mine. And then we could argue about it, and it wouldn’t matter what we think anyway.
And no, I’m not bothered that you are questioning my theology. This has been an age old question for centuries. Even the greatest theologians argue about this. You get to think what you wanna think, and I’ll think what I think, and in the end… It doesn’t matter. God’s gonna do with God’s gonna do. 🤣😂🤣😂👏👏👏
Romans 12:2 “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
“He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son.” (Colossians 1:13)
“Set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:13)
“But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.” (Philippians 3:20-21)
Not gonna dispute anything you said just sharing some verse that I keep close to heart. It's important everyone keep seeking and come to truth on there own
All throughout the bible God poured out his wrath while also keeping his people safe. 😁
Love you sis
Ps. You and Starseed get along great then don’t you. Lol. I’m happy you have somebody to talk to you about this.
Got any verses on God keeping His bride safe during the Tribulation? I don’t mean the people who later believe and repent and are saved… I mean the church now. If there is mention of the church and instructions to the church from Revelation 4 and until she descends with Christ after chapter 19, please share it to those who are suffering and wondering why they’re being judged.
Got any Bible verses that show the judgment of the hour of testing is not the whole world?
We will never ever know the complete truth of the Bible. It’s just a fact. Theologians have been debating for years and years and years and years and years.
When we stand before, the lord, then we will know. I’m OK with that. I don’t need all the answers. I can barely manage the answers. I have right now. Lol!
You are correct. Covenant theologians and others reject the rapture happening and for the purpose of removing the bride from the hour of testing.
They have the desire to remain in the earth because it is like a refinement in their eyes. But the reality is this:
The judgment was created by God as judgment upon unbelievers. The purpose is to, wait for it: ….Judge unbelievers!
Thank You!
It’s really their last chance to decide. And there will be money that will not. They will still scoff at the name of the Lord. Their hearts will be so hardened - but there will be some tribulation saints.
I sent the story to my Bible study leader. Here’s what she returned to me.
AC -antichrist HS -Holy Spirit
Israel has been crying for peace for centuries. And yes, some day, someone, the future AC, will bring peace to the whole world with a signed, 7 yr contract between him and Israel. And we will be out of here before that happens.
Because of our HS, will recognize him. An uneasiness. And 2 Thess tells us, the AC to be, can’t begin operations until the HS is out of here. That’s us. No one knows the who-who. But be watchful. Could be anyone.
But people like Hal Lindsey and other prophecy teachers, say, he’ll come out of the Roman Empire. The empire of Johns day or at its zenith when the empire went to the UK. More mid-eastern? And he’ll be a gentile.
I was told to always keep you eye on Israel for events to come. And a rabbi there, is claiming to be the messiah, and doing miracles? Satan can do strange things too don’t forget.
Again, just be watchful. Keep the oil lanterns burning.
If Revelation studies get dark, they're reading the entire book incorrectly. Typically this means a futurist interpretive lens is assumed. Figurative language and symbolic numbers are all taken literal. Timelines are concocted on questionable interpretive methods. Present circumstances (every generation!) get shoe-horned into the text, etc etc.
Revelation was written to audiences who were already undergoing dark experiences, and the motivation for the visions and letters that make up Revelation was to bring encouragement and joy. Its essentially the state of affairs on earth and in the Church from heaven's point of view. No greater comfort.
Some comments on interpreting Revelation: http://links.christreformed.org/irons/20220102-Interpreting-The-Book-Of-Revelation.mp3
Do u believe in the literal second coming?
Yes I personally have felt breif moments of heaven as if I am starting through a glass darkly. I have a very intimate relationship with Jesus in soul+mind+body. He is my best friend.
I agree to a degree. I have talked to many different people with different views on the book. Yes it gets dark because they take there focus off the fact it's called the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Hallelujah Praise Jesus. We love u
Correct. Revelation was fulfilled already. Ages ago. We have our own story to fulfill now.
The anti-Christ prophecy was fulfilled two millennia ago. Revelation is a history book now, not a prediction.
So u don't believe in a second coming?
Well let’s see, who appears at the second coming? Christ and all these angels, yeah? Who do see when you die? Christ, abc all his angels, yeah? Good people go where and bad people go where during the second coming? And what happens to people when they die?
Christ was clear he wasn’t coming back physically, and to watch out for anyone who said he had or was, and yet he made it very clear his disciples would be seeing him soon enough, right?
Did he lie? No. More likely than not, the scripture was altered or misunderstood. Christian obsession with the last days and the second coming and the tea leaf reading they engage in at sunday school with the book of revelation has been going on quite a bit long enough for me thank you very much.
You want a prophecy that hasn’t come true yet? Read Habakkuk. If you want an end times prophecy that likely still applies and that we can actually look forward to and work toward? That’s where you should be looking if you ask me.
I'm gonna have to re read Habakkuk I'm interested what u meant by that. Would u be willing to share more
It’s only two chapters. Great read.
Read Revelation Chapter 17 verse 17.
"17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled." Notice the keyword GIVE, when you vote a president into power its a Transfer of Power from the People to the president since he represents you.
It literally tells you the beast has to come into power by voting him in & with this symbolism you are right to feel red flags going off, ignore the down votes and stand firm with Jesus, people tend to forget who's important at the end of the day, Man or God & the moment you mention going against a "Man" they like they'll try anything to bring you down. Remember God always comes before Man. We have a 4 year presidential system and the beast is to rule for 3 1/2 months which is real convenient for our 4 year system.
Keep your head on a swivel & if anyone is upset over this, You're the problem. God Always Wins.
Thank you for saying this. Because that’s what I think. I think at the end of the day, God is in control. God, Womens! For sure.
We don’t know who or what he’s going to use for his plan to become complete.
That’s the plan I’m following!
Thanks God bless you and have a great day.
but muh Trump prophecies
Trump and RFK jr are the biggest threats to the establishment on either side of the aisle, however both have to be literally maximum Zionist in order to avoid the headaches and obstacles that come with being Israel-critical in modern western political systems.
This requires a lifetime of never criticising Israel, just due to the sheer logistics. It will be the generations after The Great Awakening that are finally allowed to put their countries first. It had to be this way.
But kudos to the Israelis for setting up the system, I mean you really have to hand it to them. Peerless.
Well the Jews missed King David's descendent....He was Jesus Christ. But HE will come again.
"The jews".
Obviously not all jews.
Example?
Christ.
Christ =/= Pharisees
Torah Jews =/= Talmud Jews.
Pray for or prey on?
"They want you divided. Divided you are weak. United you are strong. People united is their greatest fear" --- Q
Synagogue of Satan vs Jews
Well said fren. This is a such an important dividing point. We need to keep this in mind or the synagogue of Satan will forever be able to hide amongst the true Jews
people 60 years ago had no idea. Much easier to turn us against each other if the slaughter of our brothers and sisters was a solution to all of our problems. Not gonna work this time Demons...
Amen yep and they are running out of places to hide. Soon we will see who truly is a Jew and who simply hides behind the name.
I am looking forward to this day!
The game of chess can only last so long. The enemy is in check. The best is yet to come. Hallelujah we love you Jesus
LOL - did you read where no less in the christian forum last year I said I don't play chess the 'common' way. Nope, I assign whatever enemies my Opponent's pieces, & then I capture them 1 by 1 (altho for some odd reason I nearly always lose 1/2 my Knight/cavalry). Soon, as the king is naked, I make him Tap-dance around whatever perimeter before he is done ---- drug-Free effective stress-Reliever :) in usually under 2 minutes. Of course, Jesus' restful 😊 peace is THE best
Q never said anything about Jews in that context.
Only thing Q said that you included was “They want you divided. Divided you are weak. United you are strong. People united is their greatest fear"
He is using a Q post to explain how people tend to lump all Jews into same group which is what the enemy wants and uses to divide us
it's bigotry of low expectations to think Israel isn't a Nation capable of running black ops or wanting to do what it sees as best for its nation. All other opponents be damned. That's how we roll in US.
fedbois gonna be big mad we love the jews but hate the synagogue of satan. probably why Israel is saved for last. too much alt right bitchute nazi shit.
This is exactly it. We eliminate all other outlets then people will be forced to see the divide between synagogue of Satan and true Jews.
ThankQ, anon fren.
As Q pointed out, they pit as many groups as possible against each other so everyone is too busy hating and fighting each other to pose any real threat to their power. I now refer to these divide and conquer campaigns as Heil Hegel PsyOps.
As Q pointed out, Evil has infiltrated, with varyiing degrees of success, EVERY country,organization and religion. As the bible points out, "ONLY God is good".
Finally, I've found a line from the Baga Vad Gita to be helpful, especially when encountering a person who's in the muh joos phase of their journey, "the name that can be named is not the name".
Perhaps others will find this line helpful too.
Q told you to read the Bible, So in a way, they did.
I knew a Summers or Sommers many years ago in Facebook. Must have been 10 years ago or so.
I'm very glad that Trump has been clear that Jesus Christ is greater than him.
Thank goodness, that Trump is humble before Jesus, & setting a good example for others to follow... This nation, & the world needs a Mass-return to God as our All...
Not only that, they accused Him of being an insane, bastard child out of wedlock, blasphemer who would commit suicide (John 8) and then they Him put to death.
He did. He's here.
He came once and was rejected as the prophets foretold. That stance imo ultimately led to the result that the temple was destroyed, traditional practices could no longer go on, rabbinic and talmudic teaching replaced the prophets, and now ironically Christians (the messianic Jews) are the ones trying to reform Judaism to accept that messiah and all the past He represented. Meanwhile, today, even now, there is a major protest in Jerusalem over a proposed law that the Knesset will vote on tomorrow. As I understand it, it will increase the power of their supreme court to overrule legislators. Sounds familiar and not good. Israel has many fractious parties that can only rule by compromise. The supreme court could become dictators as in some states here.
Well that's not a good sign is it?
that is a yuge crown. Israel for last?
"the Jews" is a favorite wall to hide behind for the enemy. most Jews have no more of an understanding on what is happening & how to stop it, than anyone here on this board or of any other faith or religion.
the Jews are not the "chosen" people. everybody alive at the time Jesus Christ walked the Earth was "the chosen people". EVERY BODY.
HE chose that TIME & those people to arrive here & give us a second chance by defeating death.
we are ALL as big of sinners as those who killed Jesus. you either believe in HIM or you don't. You are either BORN AGAIN, or you aren't.
no good deeds get you into Heaven. You must be reconciled & Jesus is the only mediator.
the enemy will throw whatever lies he can think of & will hide behind whatever veil he can find, to trick, deceive & test us.
I put no faith into ANY man, that includes Trump. I put my faith 100% with my Lord & Savior Jesus Christ & God Almighty The Creator.
No president, no pope, no architect, no grand master of a lodge, no priest, no paster, no other "father" or "mother".... only HIM.
Worst Hitler EVER.
Upcoming at will be making a lot of people scream that Trump is anti-semitic. It's good he gets all the Jewish support he can now
4chan seething
Use common sense. Imagine the headlines if Trump refused.
Seems odd to pin an article that serves as a dinner bell for the Jew hater demographic.
For those saying Christians won't receive tribulation, I guess those beheaded just kneeled to pray too quickly. Driving accidents involving logging trucks? Nope. The world will hate you and even behead you. Does that mean Christ's bride is beheaded? That is worldly thinking. We are to worship in spirit. The enemy cannot behead your spirit.
Revelation 20:4 KJV And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Full video here, very long speech at the bottom:
https://www.jns.org/us-news/donald-trump/23/7/16/302653/
Because...
Bloodlines matter.
GEOTUS is literally GEOTUS.
Judah Zarah bloodline.
The red lion and red hand.
As in caught red handed (he caught them all)
He came like a thief.
He is the lion of Judah.
It's about the spirit that animates the avatar, just like Elijah in John.
Old wine in New wine skins.
Q is the beast.
Source: HowlerChimp
Does user name check out?
this is Revelation 17, can you be more specific?
https://web.mit.edu/jywang/www/cef/Bible/NIV/NIV_Bible/REV+17.html
Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled. 18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
Why does this sound like the fall of America by those who wish to run her dry. It seems if this prostitute is America, as she has slept with many peoples of the earth, basically making alliances and breaking them and making new alliances. Then our demise is not only inevitable, but on purpose by the will of YAweh
Q=17, Revelation Chapter 17, Verse 17 : For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to give the beast their power to rule, until God's words are fulfilled.
Basically this states you have to vote the beast into power. The "Mark" of the Beast could mean the "Mark" you make when selecting the President. Q Did state its going to be "Biblical" and has stated numerous times to "Read the Bible". This could be why & For that reason even if the chance is 0.0001% I'm not voting this Season because there is nothing more important than God & keeping the faith while dodging all these deception land mines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(1982_film) ?
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"Tells us".
Who is this " us"?
Those who are Legion? Those who serve the father of lies?
If so, Satan, I rebuke you. Be gone
What are u implying