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Sharyl Atkidson tells Gaetz FBI was going too. PLANT CHILD PORN on her husbands computer! She had an FBI agent tell her they have done that (twitter.com) 🚔 Crime & Democrats 💸
posted 2 years ago by Karmaskeeper81 2 years ago by Karmaskeeper81 +250 / -0
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– winn 35 points 2 years ago +35 / -0

All cyber crimes laws need to be rewritten to include mandatory forensic analysis, down to the machine code level or something, to show EXACTLY how illegal files are put on a computer, or network packets travel in a hack, etc, because it's probably pretty easy to wrongfully convict someone who isn't wealthy over a cyber crime.

"Oh, this file was on YOUR device, you are guilty!" or "This hack came from YOUR IP, guilty!"

edited in light of 40000's comment

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– Wtf_socialismreally 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Forensic evidence isn't going to cut it.

Why?

Because the government has backdoors at the hardware level (you can't convince me this isn't where CPU vulnerabilities weren't in play, for example. Also: see iOS backdoors) they can make anything happen the way they are fit.

Indeed, we know for a fact that the CIA has tools that can not only hide their presence in a cyber attack, but even misdirect and frame foreign nations.

It's simply very difficult to trust that sort of stuff on a drive nowadays unless corroborated by the users' actions, e.g. they are caught sneaking near children, participating in the creation of such repulsive content or selling/kidnapping children.

It's not good. It is definitely used to suppress voices they don't want, as obviously people passionate about protecting children and their innocence will jump down their throats if they are so much as accused.

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– winn 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Fuck. What do you think the solution could be??

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– lkjsdf9845 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You can't imprison people for possession of child porn since it's too easy to fake.

Instead, imprison people for molesting children, or making child porn, or soliciting kids for sex. Or even (maybe) for distributing child porn. But mere possession can't be a crime because it's too easy to abuse.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think the simplest way to deal with it is to use it as a supplementary charge, something that reinforces the other child abuse charges that they're accused of.

E.g. if someone is accused of child abuse, investigation could yield possession of it and then it could be used to reinforce the allegations of abuse.

It will still be possible to abuse by unsavories, but much less likely and will raise the bar and make it both more difficult to fight and more believable to begin with.

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– lkjsdf9845 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Agreed. Use it as an aggravating factor when there is evidence of other (real) crimes. I find CP as abhorrent as anyone else but clearly making it a crime in-and-of-itself results in abuse, since it's an easy way to frame innocent people and ruin their lives. (And clearly the FBI has been abusing that power).

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– Ecl1pseGST 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Ah. Yea. Meltdown and Spectre. The "vulnerabilities" that Intel "found" after selling 6 generations of CPU with them. My theory is they do this on purpose, and then if someone finds it Intel (AMD etc) go "oh wow that's terrible we will fix that right up!" and then replace it with a new backdoor.

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– angrysnowpede 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That's exactly the kind of total surveillance law the Establishment wants passed.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– AngelCole 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

You can fight it in court?? Are you offering to pay for the legal bills of those wrongfully charged. This could ruin someone financially as well as strip their freedom. Asking for an independent device audit of all those charged with these kind of crimes should not be a problem for those interested in justice, one way or another.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– OneMoreTim3 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Right. And there's no such thing thing as a heart attack gun, masks worked, the vaxx prevented COVID, Biden really got 80 million votes in the most secure election ever, men can be women by mere admission and the government doesnt have any special tech that we the people dont have access to as well.

Now lets take a break to get some more Kool Aid and go have the TV tell us what else to think.

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– 40000feet 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds cool man have fun.

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– deleted 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0
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– 40000feet 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Dunno how I could have expressed my opinion in any better way than using my own words. If you don't like it, that's fine. That doesn't make me wrong.

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– winn 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I obviously cant just rattle off cases, because they were convicted... furthermore, to fight it in court properly with forensics experts and such would cost a pretty penny, so unless you are wealthy that option would sadly be hard to achieve.

I'm just thinking within a logical hypothetical framework, I'll admit

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– kish-kumen 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's easier and cheaper to pay a digital crime syndicate to plant similar material on the judge (or jury members') devices and subsequently blackmail THEM.

You must keep patriotism hidden, or you will be targeted. As far as "the system" is concerned you must be above reproach.

It's a hard balancing act.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– winn 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That sounds quite dasting... got any links?

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– OneMoreTim3 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

So you are saying the poor currently have access to free forensic experts when charged in court?

Its hard to tell with that BS answer.

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– iideathyii 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

like we would hear of the ones who are innocent.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– AZTrumpette1776 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I'm sure the legal system has never gotten it wrong.

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– OneMoreTim3 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Tell us more about this database and our access to it...

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– 40000feet 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's called the sex offender registry, its public record. Interesting the movement is being influenced to switch from SaveTheChildren to SaveThePedophiles

i have to laugh, but it is sad how easily people are emotionally manipulated. Have your cry and come back when you be a serious person, or downvote and move along.

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– OneMoreTim3 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Your free database to forensically investigate whether people have been hacked by the FBI and had child porn placed on their PC is the sex offender registry?

Lol. Your colors have been shown. You have no clue what you are talking about and have now resorted to accusations.

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– 40000feet 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Project much?

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– Rotor 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

The so-called “rank and file” were involved in stealing our elections as well. All this shit doesn't go down unless teams of “little people” sell out for cash. Those are our neighbors, mind you...

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– OneMoreTim3 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Like pulling out suitcases in the middle of the night and restarting the count with 'your people'

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– TinkAnon 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

FBI should be dismantled and dumped on the trash heap of history.

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– Trumpternal 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Hi FBI, I'm sure you're here. Why have you chosen to side with evil?

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– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0
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– Trumpternal 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Sure appears to be.

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– ythehorses 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, I'm sure of it. His face is very clear 15 seconds into video.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I would say yes

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– inspoken 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Been saying this for years. It is incredibly easy to plant that. Years ago there was a evangelistic minister in some foreign language next to my friend's shop & it was growing fast. Next time I saw him it was gone, I asked what happened. He told me she (the minister) had child porn & that was it.

They can take anyone down

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– gloryhallelujah22 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

How do these people live with themselves?

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– ythehorses 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That's not surprising at all. Of course they do that.

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– Paul_Revere 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Is this supposed to be a shocking revelation? The Feds have been doing this for years.

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– Doobiedoo2 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Her book, "Stonewalled," will shock you.

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– Oblakhan 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Accuse and prosecute others for what they have done themselves.

Yep, rings true.

Lots of folks think the rank and file is innocent, and most of them probably are. However, there are those that would sell their souls for advancement, and they don't care who they have to screw to do it. So the rank and file are involved in this kind of operation, and the punishment for cops and agents that frame others should be the most severe of any on the books.

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– Cheesecakecrush 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

So, question: They just have guys who are comfortable transporting around child porn to put on other people's computers? The FBI keeps child porn?

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– kish-kumen 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's just another weapon to them, mate.

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– Flowers_for_Alger 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

As a spouse of a retired fed officer- the stories and things i have seen...this only confirms it- our Gov has been infiltrated by lying, greedy bad people...it's so endemic in every agency, recovery seems impossible- looks at Trump's cases...all they need now are dirty jurors. These Godless fucks are EVERYWHERE

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– CQVFEFE 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

IIRC forensic experts can usually discern footprints of planting evidence

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– Puddinhead 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Which forensic experts are willing to do that when the FBI can say they found child porn on their computer too?

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– operation_eland 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Not surprised at all. Certainly one thing I would recommend if you believe you may fall foul of the government is switch to Linux, it probably won't stop them if they are determined enough but it could slow them down. The way proprietary operating systems work is essentially Apple or Microsoft always are a back door super user into your system where as on Linux if so inclined you can see everything that runs on your system as its all open source and in theory any super user actions need your password and permission. My guess is the tools they have available are less sophisticated for Linux systems just because its such a small percentage of desktop users.

Of course there is relatively little you can do about your smartphone because ultimately whatever OS it runs the phone itself runs on the baseband and Apple and Google are full of back doors on top of that.

If you want to do something in secret for god sake don't take your phone and don't say anything around it you wouldn't want the FBI to know unless the battery is out - then think how many phones can you take the battery out of these days...

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– Tewdryg 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Sharyl Attkisson reveals this despicable practice that the FBI has been using for a very long time now. Her revelation is nothing new. Many political dissidents in the past have had their lives destroyed as a result of the FBI's widespread practice of bearing false witness.

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– Temon_and_Langerine 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Even Keith Raniere (iirc) was able to prove that they planted CP in his computer at trial.

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– DIAFhillary 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

"Which Federal Agent?" should have been the next question. Subpoena him immediately.

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– dec3169 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Don't take this wrong - I'm not discounting this in any way. I merely want to point out that is Louie Gohmert sitting beside Matt Gaetz. Louie resigned from the 1st District of TX to run for Texas AG in the 2022 election. He lost and is not in CONgress anymore. So - this video was done some time before January 3 2003 or Louie wouldn't be there.

That doesn't mean this is a fake - it just is not current. I'd love to know why.

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– GA_Logic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

That and accusing someone of being a human trafficker. That is the dirty tactics they use.

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– downwithuppish 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Remember when a member of Bill Gates staff at his home was found with it on their computer.

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