Life from non-life is just too complex to happen by chance, no matter how many billions of years. It's like throwing all the parts of a car into a garage and expecting a fully assembled car to result.
Exactly! They want me to believe that we were created in a once in a gazillion chance from space dust and evolved from invertebrates that crawled out of the ocean.... Yeah no.... I can't even help but wonder and behold in awe at the landscapes of the world. You can't tell me all these things, created in perfect function with respect to one another, even the base functions of the human body, aren't made by an Almighty and benevolent God who has a knack and knowledge for building all things
It's not an assumption, is basic biology and thermodynamics. Things become less organized over time, not more. It takes EXTREME faith to believe that life began as some random sequence of events.
It doesn't even require belief to notice we are in a universe so vast it is for all intents and purposes infinite. I suspect it probably is in fact endless and never had a beginning. If that is true it proves your creation myth is a fairy tale and your god is the same as all the other gods: invented by people who could not fathom infinity.
The problem with all this discourse about theories and what is right and wrong is that not one person posits that there are things in this universe that are beyond human comprehension. Likely beyond the ability of humans to recognize. And other than things we already know we cannot see or hear without instruments (light waves, etc.)
What about things we don't even have enough brain capacity to even imagine? So beyond the scope of human existence.
That's a good point. I try to keep in mind that any beliefs I might have are bound to be obsolete or plain wrong when seen from a larger perspective. Ever wonder what life is like at the center of the galaxy?
It is impossible to traverse an infinite. If there existed an infinite number of days before today, then we would’ve never arrived at today. But we HAVE arrived at today, therefore the past is not infinite. The universe had a beginning.
If you stood on one bank of a river with an infinite number of stones between you and the other side, how long would it take to reach the opposite bank?
Fuck you on behalf of God. Because He is a gentleman and wouldn't tell you anything like that. He would likely tell you depart and off you go to die forever fucktard. Open your dumb fucking eyes and see we are bound for judgement, dumbass. Hope that's clear enough for you. But retards like you don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. You just have your ego. So fuck you.
Jesus' apostles were so convinced that He was God in human form that they died horrible deaths rather than recant their beliefs. The prophecies regarding Jesus are numerous, and virtually mathematically impossible to be coincidental. You really have to be stubborn to ignore all the truth of the Bible; as stubborn as I was until the age of 30!
I've read the bible- not the whole thing but pretty extensively. It just smacks of human hands, powerful people that want to make us dance. Control freaks. As for me, it's freedom or death
My God is infinite, without beginning and without end. Eternal. Uncreated. So yes, a universe that is so vast that it seems infinite to us, is likely to be finite to the creator of the same. I suppose it is a matter of perspective, ours vs God's.
You stated "It doesn't even require belief to notice we are in a universe so vast it is for all intents and purposes infinite"
I think I was agreeing with you that from a purely human perspective the universe appears to be infinite.
Time does not have any creative power at all. If you simply add more time you’re going to get more chaos, not order. Random events tend toward disorder (entropy). This is observable (2nd law of Thermodynamics).
Furthermore, It is impossible to traverse an infinite. If there existed an infinite number of days before today, then we would’ve never arrived at today. But we HAVE arrived at today, therefore the past is not infinite. The universe had a beginning.
But then he got this tweet, " ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA.
ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE.
USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE." and decided to change the destination to Burbank
We? I don’t plan on dying when you do. And have you actually been to Cape Canaveral? Have you seen the space rockets or shuttle up close? No? Well you should zip it about the DARPA paid for “faked the moon landing” type statements until you can 100% physically prove yourself we never went. Or until you can walk around NASA’s multi-billion dollar facilities in Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and California proving that none of that stuff is real, it’s all a hoax, and none of those Q-Clearance employees are all there doing Q-Clearance space sh1t.
I think there have probably been way more humans on the moon than we realize, and there are almost certainly a few bases on the far side. Humans have definitely been there.
However, I'm also prepared to believe that the video we saw of the first men walking on the moon may well have been faked/staged/recreated for public consumption, just in case something went catastrophically wrong or there were transmission problems.
Life from non-life is just too complex to happen by chance, no matter how many billions of years. It's like throwing all the parts of a car into a garage and expecting a fully assembled car to result.
Exactly! They want me to believe that we were created in a once in a gazillion chance from space dust and evolved from invertebrates that crawled out of the ocean.... Yeah no.... I can't even help but wonder and behold in awe at the landscapes of the world. You can't tell me all these things, created in perfect function with respect to one another, even the base functions of the human body, aren't made by an Almighty and benevolent God who has a knack and knowledge for building all things
Read Genesis-it IS all there...
my point exactly!
How do you know the universe is not teeming with life? It's shockingly stupid to make assumptions like that.
It's not an assumption, is basic biology and thermodynamics. Things become less organized over time, not more. It takes EXTREME faith to believe that life began as some random sequence of events.
I don’t have enough faith to be an Atheist.
It doesn't even require belief to notice we are in a universe so vast it is for all intents and purposes infinite. I suspect it probably is in fact endless and never had a beginning. If that is true it proves your creation myth is a fairy tale and your god is the same as all the other gods: invented by people who could not fathom infinity.
The problem with all this discourse about theories and what is right and wrong is that not one person posits that there are things in this universe that are beyond human comprehension. Likely beyond the ability of humans to recognize. And other than things we already know we cannot see or hear without instruments (light waves, etc.)
What about things we don't even have enough brain capacity to even imagine? So beyond the scope of human existence.
We think we know it all. Haha!
That's a good point. I try to keep in mind that any beliefs I might have are bound to be obsolete or plain wrong when seen from a larger perspective. Ever wonder what life is like at the center of the galaxy?
Look ma, muh eyes can see light years away! Can you believe it?!
It is impossible to traverse an infinite. If there existed an infinite number of days before today, then we would’ve never arrived at today. But we HAVE arrived at today, therefore the past is not infinite. The universe had a beginning.
How do you know?
If you stood on one bank of a river with an infinite number of stones between you and the other side, how long would it take to reach the opposite bank?
Or what if you just find yourself amidst the infinite number of stones?
What other side?
Fuck you on behalf of God. Because He is a gentleman and wouldn't tell you anything like that. He would likely tell you depart and off you go to die forever fucktard. Open your dumb fucking eyes and see we are bound for judgement, dumbass. Hope that's clear enough for you. But retards like you don't have eyes to see or ears to hear. You just have your ego. So fuck you.
Lol
Tell that to Him someday bro. It's not lol
lol
ok
Jesus' apostles were so convinced that He was God in human form that they died horrible deaths rather than recant their beliefs. The prophecies regarding Jesus are numerous, and virtually mathematically impossible to be coincidental. You really have to be stubborn to ignore all the truth of the Bible; as stubborn as I was until the age of 30!
I've read the bible- not the whole thing but pretty extensively. It just smacks of human hands, powerful people that want to make us dance. Control freaks. As for me, it's freedom or death
My God is infinite, without beginning and without end. Eternal. Uncreated. So yes, a universe that is so vast that it seems infinite to us, is likely to be finite to the creator of the same. I suppose it is a matter of perspective, ours vs God's.
Not sure what you are answering yes to. I don't think there was a creation event or a creator.
You stated "It doesn't even require belief to notice we are in a universe so vast it is for all intents and purposes infinite"
I think I was agreeing with you that from a purely human perspective the universe appears to be infinite.
What I mean is there is no end that we can detect and I think it is in reality endless or infinite.
More time = more chaos.
Time does not have any creative power at all. If you simply add more time you’re going to get more chaos, not order. Random events tend toward disorder (entropy). This is observable (2nd law of Thermodynamics).
Furthermore, It is impossible to traverse an infinite. If there existed an infinite number of days before today, then we would’ve never arrived at today. But we HAVE arrived at today, therefore the past is not infinite. The universe had a beginning.
Excellent. I love to hear someone who agrees!
Because the book told them so
It is wackadoodle to think this all magically happened. That is one crazy fantasy. The logical mind will find God.
Marine Science. (that narrows down the possible universities :) )
But then he got this tweet, " ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS, EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDING THERE. USE THEM TOGETHER. USE THEM IN PEACE." and decided to change the destination to Burbank
My God.....It's full of stars!
kek
Damn it, you beat me to the reference.
2010: The Year We Make Contact, a surprisingly watchable sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey.
More moon comms? Europa?
Mary, you're obviously suffering from some gender confusion. That's a DAD joke!
So THAT's where you get your dad jokes!
My daughter makes fun of my jokes all the time. Says they're corny. Pfft!
She won't admit it!
Groan!
Are you someone's uncle, Mary?
Of course!
🤣🤣🤣👊
Extra kek! Love it Mary
🤣🤣 good one!
Well, we're not allowed to know what's on our own moon, so why not learn about Jupiter's moon.
...Jupiters moon'S. Lots of them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moons_of_Jupiter
Is that the same studio they filmed the moon landing on?
Hard to take serious. Man can't feed and clothe the poor, but thinks he can conquer the galaxies.
Who gives a fuck about “Europa, a moon of Jupiter”.
We will die before this scrap gets there
… and before people prove that NASA (again?) faked the landing.
You plan on punchin' out in 6 years, pede?
We? I don’t plan on dying when you do. And have you actually been to Cape Canaveral? Have you seen the space rockets or shuttle up close? No? Well you should zip it about the DARPA paid for “faked the moon landing” type statements until you can 100% physically prove yourself we never went. Or until you can walk around NASA’s multi-billion dollar facilities in Florida, Texas, New Mexico, and California proving that none of that stuff is real, it’s all a hoax, and none of those Q-Clearance employees are all there doing Q-Clearance space sh1t.
I think there have probably been way more humans on the moon than we realize, and there are almost certainly a few bases on the far side. Humans have definitely been there.
However, I'm also prepared to believe that the video we saw of the first men walking on the moon may well have been faked/staged/recreated for public consumption, just in case something went catastrophically wrong or there were transmission problems.
Pumping money doesn’t prove success.
See: Ukraine.
Great. Another person we can send American money to.
Nice video, but doesn't explain how they plan to get past the firmament.
It's pretty easy to get past considering it doesn't exist lmao
Fake. Gay.
"All these worlds are yours, except Europa..."
2061: Odyssey Three
HERE WE GOOOOOOOOO
u/#aliens
I'm all for sending a probe to Europa as the chemistry we've seen from existing probes points to the possibility of life under the surface.
But it's difficult to take this sort of thing seriously when we ignore the non-human, intelligent life that's already been visiting Earth.
There is life everywhere in the universe, jusr like everywhere on Terra
If there is life elsewhere, there just as f’d up as us
I gave you constantly expanding and infinite # of updoots for this.