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Attempted suicide rates among those identifying as transgender more than doubled after receiving a vaginoplasty - Journal of Urology (twitter.com) 🌭 SUDDENLY NOT SURPRISED
posted 2 years ago by Excelsior 2 years ago by Excelsior +221 / -0
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– DCGRITS 38 points 2 years ago +38 / -0

Because mental illness is the problem, not their genitalia. The surgery didn’t fix the problem.

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– Sadness 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

erm, the surgery made the suicide rates worse.

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– DCGRITS 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

yes because the individuals thought it was what they needed and afterwards realize it not only didn’t make them feel better but also it permanently ruined their body. The reason the weren’t happy wasn’t a physical one it was a mental one which was never corrected.

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– What-Me-Worry 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Can we start treating them for Parasites like Toxoplasma Gondii first to see if their mental state improves? Maybe a couple rounds of IVM, FenBen, or HCQ to see how they are feeling?

It is well documented that T Gondii can alter behavior and studies show that it can develop into Schizophrenia, Alzheimer's and depression.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

YES. Absolutely right!

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– ZerroDefex 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

And those who try to "de-transition" don't receive any government-mandated insurance money, they're cut off as soon as they reverse course.

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– enough_of_the_racism 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

If they had a vaginoplasty and then want to detransition, do they get an addadictomy?

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– stevethefish76 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

u/#kek

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– The_Knight_of_sunset 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Maybe because they realize that not only were their illnesses not cured, but they permanently damaged/destroyed their bodies for a lie.

Also, I heard that the smell will be persistent and awful. The stench must be enough to drive anyone to death.

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– Rardog900 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Fake vaginas get maggots

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– Yeetthedems 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

It’s definitely because they know they’ve mutilated themselves. Having to take care of such a wound for the rest of ones life would be enough to make someone off themself.

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– BigMuddyMama 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, it is apparently a permanent poop smell. Horrible!

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Basically their new vag is formed from bowel. And sometimes there is also accidentally some skin with hair follicles that are up to far in the fake labia so hair is growing out of the new hole. Surgeons creating fake vaginas should go to prison for mutilating a mentally ill human being. I can certainly imagine why a recipient could end up wanting to die.

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– ZerroDefex 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Who would have thought cutting off your dick and still being miserable would push one over the edge?

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– NanoKhuma 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I'm sure you would too if you got a surgical hole that

•Requires a plastic dialator shoved painfully in for ~3-8 hours a day or risks closing up. No doing it while watching TV either, you have to maintain constant pressure inwards. •Has a very high risk of creating a hole into the intestines, letting shit just fall through your new front hole. •Constantly oozes a mixture of hair and smegma, regardless of how well you can clean it, and causes the smell of death. •Completely kills sex drive, and any enjoyment from sexual acts. •You have to be constantly vigilant over your new hole, lest it fills with granulation tissue or just prolapses and falls out.

All for the low low price of upwards of $50,000.

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– LetsG0Brandon 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

"Tilapia and maggots" something salty regularly says

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– CMAnon 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

And the doctors performing these butchering procedures should lose their medical licenses. Failure to abide by their Hippocratic oath is the least of their transgressions. Criminal manslaughter is more appropriate.

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– What-Me-Worry 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Josef Mengele enters the chat. 🚪🚶‍♀️

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– LetsG0Brandon 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Manmade horrors beyond comprehension?

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– What-Me-Worry 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Seems we are living that horror show now on a daily basis.

It's pushed right in our face and they are mocking God.

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– Sadness 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Do no harm

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– Excelsior [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Agreed. Here's a list of at least some of them in the US:

https://www.transhealthcare.org/usa/

This website also lists surgeons worldwide who do these procedures

https://www.transhealthcare.org/

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– BerlinWallCrosser 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

You get depressed when you realize that the permanent solution you just committed to is not really the solution.

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– Brent75 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I would find it quite depressing that I can’t write my name in the snow, dirt, or sand while peeing. Or just pee anywhere. It would be like being in pissprison. Plus I’d feel like a neutered male dog, forever lazy cut off from my testosterone flow.

Uhhhh shit….. I just openly typed these not-so-deep thoughts didn’t I? Dammit again! Kek!

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– bigsix 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

pissprison u/#coffeespit

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– Brent75 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

😂🤣😂🤣

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– The_Knight_of_sunset 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

And that the persistent smell of rotting flesh and bodily waste will drive anyone more insane. It could kill someone.

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– DCGRITS 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

exactly.

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– stevethefish76 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

And that "Jazzy" kid or whatever TF that boy's name is, he was the poster child of tranny children after he got his mutilation operation as a child, had his own reality show, etc. I hadn't even heard of this person until lately because I don't live in America and fortunately missed out on that crap. Now he is in a total malaise, having to wake up at 3am every morning to dilate, etc. I'd consider suicide too if I was in that terrible situation.

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– Excelsior [S] 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

“Attempted suicide rates among people who identified as transgender more than doubled after receiving a vaginoplasty, according to a peer-reviewed study published in The Journal of Urology.

The study analyzed the rates of psychiatric emergencies before and after gender-altering surgery among 869 males who underwent vaginoplasty and 357 females who underwent phalloplasty in California from 2012 to 2018.

Researchers found the rates of psychiatric emergencies were high both before and after gender-altering surgery, with similar overall rates in both groups. However, suicide attempts were markedly higher in those who received vaginoplasties.”

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I suspect they also think this will make them more attractive and desireable to people they would want to date, and are very disappointed when they find out its the opposite reaction.

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– patriot68 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Imagine thinking having your natural male junk replaced with a hole that doesn't smell right will solve your mental anguish.

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

They tell themselves the most bizarre lies too. For example, they have convinced themselves that theres a huge supply of “tranny chasers”, and that everyone loves tranny porn, and therefore they will get all the sex they could ever want.

In reality, it makes people vomit.

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– BigMuddyMama 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I also just read that Brazillian Butt Lifts come with a bad smell, too. Imagine being a dude who thinks getting a big butt and fake coochie will make life better, but all it attracts are flies and dog noses.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Why would a butt lift cause that? That's just implants for ass checks, like boob ones are implants

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– BigMuddyMama 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Doctors aren't sure why. BBL's are usually fat transfers from other parts of the body and the fat gets purified before being injected into the butt cheeks. The thought is that because of the bigger butt, it could make it harder to wipe the area clean as it is harder to reach back there. Physical implants in butts are bad because they can rupture.

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– TNBanjoMan 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Their day of visibility will soon be a day of miserability.

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– farpointpatriot 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

KEK! Clever

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– Bedminster 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Obviously Trumps fault!

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– Sadness 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Nah Russian didinvormation akshully. It's their fault for being transphobic.

/s

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– lovemyGod 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The amount of hormones they have to take, on top of living with the results of full castration and a life long physical deformity that does not make you what you thought it would, is of course a mental illness. Estrogen is powerful. When I went through the change (menapause) I took hormones for awhile due to crazy hot flashes every 20 minutes. After being on the initial dose, I remember driving in my car and being overwhelmed with sadness, I was weeping for no reason and had sad sad thoughts. I called my doc because I knew something was not right, and she immediatly lowered the estrogen, it was like someone turned the light on in a dark basement. Now, I am a woman, just think of the amount of estrogen a man has to take to feminize himself, probably 4x what I took for hot flashes. Gender dysphoria is a thought disorder, and to hell with doctors who comply in this.

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– Stephanie1 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

So are doctors trying to make a penis into a vagina and expect it to function like a vagina?

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yep. They split the dick like ya do a weenie on a bun, then invert it into space made by moving around the colon

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– Stephanie1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You'd think that would scare the "woman" out of any man thinking of doing that

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– Moose_Antlers 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Man, I truly hate low effort posts like this.

What I expect is a link to the research so I can look at it myself and see if it's legit or not. I'm a health professional, so if I see a claim like this, I have to be able to cite it and discuss it with patients, so I can't just read the headline. I have to do the work of actually reading and considering the paper.

What I got:

  • A link to some pundit's Twitter (guess who I think posted this anonymously)
  • A tweet with a screen cap of a headline
  • No actual link to the Epoch Times headline he screen capped
  • An article which itself is gated behind a demand for registration and/or payment
  • No actual reference to the actual research
  • No archive link to bypass the paywall

All I got is some random person's screen cap.

So I go to the journal's page directly. Search for key words used in the Epoch Times headline yields no results. No original research, no abstracts, no editorials. (It's a terrible search engine, like most of them, they're too specific, and of course OP didn't give any damn details). Ok, I'll just manually go through the current issue and see if something looks right. Too bad, no love. Only one looks reasonably close and it's paywalled. <3

So, try Google. Again, key word search for key words in the ET title. This time I get results. Google curates this kind of thing, but we all know their bias, so naturally it's recent, but not "this month" recent. I get a whole set of pages of "research" (low quality observational studies straight off the WPATH citation list, because pro-trans cheerleading, right? right?) none of which actually shows a rise in suicide rates. Bing's just as bad. Maybe I'll have to try Yandex, but at this point I've wasted far more time and energy than I want to chasing this goose, that I'm no longer interested.

I hate low effort posts like this. I need data, not outrage sensationalism and clickbait. This isn't good enough.

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– Excelsior [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/rates-of-suicide-attempts-doubled-after-gender-reassignment-surgery-5616167?src_src=partner&src_cmp=TheChiefNerd

https://www.auajournals.org/doi/10.1097/JU.0000000000001971.20#T1

The links were right below the original tweet. All you had to do was scroll down.

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– r_u_srs_srsly 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think this one falls under the "too obvious to be true" category

I know this to be true

you know this to be true

every healthcare professional knows this to be true

but we also know damn well no one would have the balls to publish that. They'd be canceled, fired, discredited, and the journal would be forced to retract it. It's just too hot.

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– Proud17Peasant 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"Maybe I'd have more friends if I didn't have a penis."

 5 months later:

"Why doesn't anybody love me?"

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– DMJT70 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Who woulda thought cutting your penis off would make one suicidal? Hmmmm…/s

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– magaphraust 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Buyer's remorse times a million!

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– orangetastic1 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's all fun and games until they hack off your junk.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– erefernow 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

What a sad but I surprising statistic

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– MAGA_mandalorian 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Its a bird! no its a plain! ITS CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT!!!

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– hunterscrackpipe1 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Body Dysphoria is a documented mental illness. It's too bad that the left killed off a lot of the mental health facilities back in the 80's.

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