Who picked the fruit before the mass immigration started? There were always immigrants. It’s not that there won’t be immigration and people looking for jobs. Trump made it clear they will be coming in legally. Robot fruit pickers aren’t a bad idea either.
Correct. All the farms around me use labor that are all green carded not illegal. They're not about to risk their livelihood over some illegals. The left is retarded.
The H2A visas do. Unfortunately, there are many employers who hire "migrant workers" who usually don't have a legal basis to be here. The H2A's come, do their job and then go back home.
why do I have to pay such inflated prices to universities? can't they hire illegal aliens as college professors? why do I have to pay so much for doctors and lawyers? can't we just use illegal aliens? why do we need any regulations at all now? can't we just ignore them all?
This reminds me of Kelley Osbourne popping off about who's gonna clean Trump's toilets with no immigrants. She didn't even realize how racist that sounded. And here they go again.
Right? They don't even realize that they sound racist in their own meme. They're basically saying Mexicans are only for low paying cleaning and picking jobs.
Show me how we did without all the illegals. As far as I can remember, we did just fine.
The problem isn't the work, it's the wages. Something these twats don't understand.
I have worked in the construction field for a long time and I can tell you the issue with illegals-RICH people take advantage of illegal labor, not the middle class. But it's the middle class that gets beaten down. And obviously it trickles down to the poor.
Business owners pay cheap labor, which in turn hurts real carpenters like myself by basically eradicating the pay scale.
If illegals began to demand the same pay as their legal counterparts, what would happen?
Here's a hint to the twats: Business owners would have to pay fair rate across the board. And more lower and middle class people would accept the so called "degrading" jobs because THEY CAN NOW MAKE A LIVING FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY" FFS./
The left are not really for fair wages, are they??
Hidden in the debate is the agenda to make BOTH parents work for ONE living wage! "Feminism" made women think it was to their benefit to be wage slaves too.
Plays right into the communist agenda to break up the family. etc.
OH construction jobs were NEVER jobs that the middle class would not do!
Those jobs were STOLEN from them. Just as good manufacturing jobs were STOLEN from them by moving the jobs overseas.
Exactly. A huge chunk of MAGA wouldn’t be complaining about “why is produce so expensive now?” but instead cheering that finally it is possible to sell produce at a fair price.
Trying to sell the message that crime by illegals helps support the nation. Like how rapists, thieves and murderers enrich cities. And how domestic violence is great for families. And how every dollar of political money laundering helps support domestic industry and local jobs and wages.
Leftists are a one-trick pony and that trick is crime. And that pony needs a trip to the glue factory.
Obviously they have no idea how we live out in flyover country. I think I’ll put on “A Country Boy Can Survive” and cut greens from my winter garden, then get focused on building a new chicken tractor.
Automation and Mechanization: The agricultural sector has been steadily moving towards more automation. Even labor-intensive crops are increasingly being harvested by machines. For instance, technologies for harvesting fruits like berries and nuts are advancing, reducing the dependency on manual labor. This could mitigate labor shortages and keep food prices stable or even reduce them due to efficiency gains.
Domestic Labor Market: There's an argument that American workers could fill these roles if wages were adjusted to be competitive. With unemployment at various levels, there's a pool of labor that could be tapped into, particularly if jobs in agriculture were made more attractive through better wages, benefits, or working conditions. The idea is that with the right incentives, the workforce gap could be filled by legal residents or citizens, potentially without a significant increase in food prices.
Economic Adjustments: If labor costs do rise due to fewer workers, the market would adjust. Farmers might switch to less labor-intensive crops, invest in labor-saving technology, or increase efficiency through other means. The increase in wages might be absorbed by higher productivity or offset by other savings in the production process. This adjustment could keep increases in food prices minimal or within market tolerance.
Imports and Market Dynamics: The U.S. already imports a significant portion of its produce. An increase in domestic labor costs could be balanced by an increase in imports from countries where labor is cheaper. Additionally, market dynamics might lead to a shift in consumer behavior towards less labor-intensive produce or domestically mechanized crops, thus maintaining price stability.
Long-term Economic Health: There's also an argument for the broader economic implications. Mass deportation might reduce immediate labor costs but could lead to economic disruption. However, proponents of stricter immigration enforcement argue that the long-term benefits of legal control over the workforce could lead to more stable economic conditions, potentially offsetting any short-term increase in food prices. This perspective suggests that a regulated labor market might eventually stabilize or even lower costs through better planning and resource allocation.
Many pay a premium for organic foods. A premium for fair-trade coffee.
Why wouldn't we want to pay the market price for food without exploiting labor??
How can anyone justify lower food costs for the average consumer by exploiting labor?
Yes everyone needs to eat. Europeans have long used a higher percentage of their income for food than the US. You get what you pay for.
More made in China stuff? Or better food? IDK??
The poor who cannot afford food even now, well there is charity and numerous programs. Maybe the poor will not be so poor, when market wages are paid for labor.
One answer to these types of messages from the Left:
Yes, illegal labor reduces prices...but slave labor would reduce them more. Perhaps we should allow economic migrants, if they're desperate enough, to sell themselves into slavery for 5-10 years, to get that green card and access to our welfare system.
Yup, they are in that group as well. Funny thing is, the blacks that moved up and moved on are doing quite well. It's the ones belly aching about it that stay put in poverty
LBJs Great Society planned to keep them voting dem for 200 years. Mostly by taking the father out of the home, so the woman could get welfare for her and the children.
And it's a trap. The black people I know that have done well in life figured it out and got away from it as quickly as they could. It's an amazing difference in life with the right perspective.
Tried that argument. It’s correct, but it doesn’t work.
By “doesn’t work”, not only does it not work on liberals/leftists but it doesn’t work on conservatives buying slave labor products to save a few copper-plated zinc discs.
The key takeaway for me from this is that they have no understanding of the MAGA mindset, at all, they're projecting again.
For example, if the net result of deporting all those illegal immigrants was that people had to pick their own produce or pay more for it (because no-one is being paid slave wages any more because they'd be deported if they complained etc.) then MAGA would just do one of the following (not exhaustive list):-
Pick their own fruit and appreciate being outside and in-touch with nature/their food again
Work harder to earn more money to pay the additional cost, knowing that this supports the economy
Come up with a way to make fruit picking cheap without using slave labor
You are exactly right! They demand people work for slave-rate wages.
Dems are true to their heritage:
The southern plantations used slaves for the same reasons. Slavery was on the way out. Until the cotton gin permitted BIG COTTON.
"The invention of the cotton gin caused massive growth in the production of cotton mostly in the South. Cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. . . . the region became even more dependent on plantations that used black slave labor with plantation agriculture becoming the largest sector of its economy."
Oh, and was it the middle class wiping down dirty hotel glasses instead of replacing them with actual clean ones? The Left is gay and that’s never been funny.
Now some on the left also clean their own toilets and mow their own lawns, and claim compassion for supporting illegal immigration.
BUT if they support illegal immigration!!, they are complicit in human trafficking!! and the use of these human beings as underpaid labor! Which ALSO means underpayment for the labor of themselves and their neighbors, not to mention POC.
We cannot let the "compassionate" ones off the hook for their ill-advised policies which cause HARM to both the illegals coming in under the cartels, and American families who only want to earn a decent living for their families.
Hahaha, you act like we have never done this. Hahahaha, I had to do all of this growing up. I still do after 40 years. You Elites are so dumb you don't even know what labor is. Go suck on a latte.
OH they will suck on a latte while the Mexicans etc. clean their toilets and mow their lawns etc. for the lowest wages they can pay for the most recent and desperate of trafficked people.
Well, I do pick my vegetables, I do cut my own grass, and since my dad was a roofer, I can do that too. Even my own plumbing and electrical. Give me a rafter square, and I'll frame the whole damn house! So mass deportation doesn't affect me at all. As for a hotel room, don't use them. Tent works fine for me. Besides, growing food requires I be here full time, so even camping isn't happening right now.
YES it IS a good way to expose them! And they ARE again saying it out loud . . .
I am now picturing memes in my head:
Denver Mayor vows to protect illegal immigrants with his police and citizen volunteers!
So that the Denver elites do not have to clean their own toilets or mow their own lawns!
Denver citizens are now to be the poor rebel sons, whose families did not own slaves, drafted to protect the institution of slavery, out of misplaced loyalty to the dem Party hegemony??
HA! I don't think the citizens will fall for it. WHO are these mayors kidding?? Are they that out of touch??
“work as a hotel cleaner” would make more sense, but in flyover country, whites do work as hotel cleaners, so it’s not that scary.
The meme also couldn’t make up its mind. Should it have people at the grocery store checkout complaining about expensive produce, or should it have people saving money by picking their own produce in the field but for some reason still complaining about the expense? The illustration suggests that the white produce pickers are finding price tags in the field. The meme was composed by an unorganized mind, and it looks like AI, lol.
If this whole meme is supposed to be scary, it’s counterproductive. Pick food in a nice landscape with fit, non-commie white women at a 3:2 ratio? Where do I sign up? How fast do you need the illegals out of the way?
I already do my own mowing and roofing, lol. Lazy commies projecting.
Do liberals know how to start a lawn mower, clean or fix their house or car? Too busy on their iphones paying $10 for a cup of coffee at commie starbucks. The house down the block will no longer have 5 familes and 15 kids in it anymore as well.
The pickers have green cards and won’t be affected by deportation. They only come for seasonal jobs. The dems are dumb, crooked but dumb.
Yeah, and they can’t meme. Then there is this: https://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1860288580993581112?s=61
Who picked the fruit before the mass immigration started? There were always immigrants. It’s not that there won’t be immigration and people looking for jobs. Trump made it clear they will be coming in legally. Robot fruit pickers aren’t a bad idea either.
The seasonal workers are not coming in illegally.
Need to call it a gym-membership ----- fruit pickers workout.
Yea, saw that yesterday, it’s an amazing piece of machinery. I wonder if it just works on apples or if it can be used for other produce.
Well if AI is so smart…..
yes
Correct. All the farms around me use labor that are all green carded not illegal. They're not about to risk their livelihood over some illegals. The left is retarded.
The H2A visas do. Unfortunately, there are many employers who hire "migrant workers" who usually don't have a legal basis to be here. The H2A's come, do their job and then go back home.
why do I have to pay such inflated prices to universities? can't they hire illegal aliens as college professors? why do I have to pay so much for doctors and lawyers? can't we just use illegal aliens? why do we need any regulations at all now? can't we just ignore them all?
HA! And you are merely extending their own logic!
Come on, don't be ridiculous. If Haitians were in the medical field, it would be in veterinarian medicine.
Hahaha 😆
on LI, I think many are run by haitians...
Why has the crime rate gone down so much?
Why did the rents all get cheaper?
How come wages are suddenly up?
Why are the streets so much cleaner? 🤷🏼♂️
kek. "Bidens policies finally kicking in!"
When the perspective is so retarded the perspective must be explained you know its a Libtard meme
Also when the worst possible horror they can imagine is the idea that you might have to do a bit more work.
This reminds me of Kelley Osbourne popping off about who's gonna clean Trump's toilets with no immigrants. She didn't even realize how racist that sounded. And here they go again.
https://youtu.be/0m5S91y3fL8
It was one of the cringiest moments on TV ever!
I still find it hard to watch.
This is so demeaning isn't it!
They demean everyone, but most of all, themselves.
Right? They don't even realize that they sound racist in their own meme. They're basically saying Mexicans are only for low paying cleaning and picking jobs.
George Lopez: "so ask yourself, what can BROWN do for?"
Show me how we did without all the illegals. As far as I can remember, we did just fine.
The problem isn't the work, it's the wages. Something these twats don't understand.
I have worked in the construction field for a long time and I can tell you the issue with illegals-RICH people take advantage of illegal labor, not the middle class. But it's the middle class that gets beaten down. And obviously it trickles down to the poor.
Business owners pay cheap labor, which in turn hurts real carpenters like myself by basically eradicating the pay scale.
If illegals began to demand the same pay as their legal counterparts, what would happen?
Here's a hint to the twats: Business owners would have to pay fair rate across the board. And more lower and middle class people would accept the so called "degrading" jobs because THEY CAN NOW MAKE A LIVING FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILY" FFS./
It is so obvious that it should not need saying.
The left are not really for fair wages, are they??
Hidden in the debate is the agenda to make BOTH parents work for ONE living wage! "Feminism" made women think it was to their benefit to be wage slaves too.
Plays right into the communist agenda to break up the family. etc.
OH construction jobs were NEVER jobs that the middle class would not do! Those jobs were STOLEN from them. Just as good manufacturing jobs were STOLEN from them by moving the jobs overseas.
You're correct on all points.
And the worst part is the line that gets regurgitated- "You're not going to do that job!!"
What they mean is, they aren't going to do that job.
Because they're, by design, lazy pieces of shit.
and they want the job done FOR THEM by sub-par wages!
Exactly. A huge chunk of MAGA wouldn’t be complaining about “why is produce so expensive now?” but instead cheering that finally it is possible to sell produce at a fair price.
Get bent, commies.
Trying to sell the message that crime by illegals helps support the nation. Like how rapists, thieves and murderers enrich cities. And how domestic violence is great for families. And how every dollar of political money laundering helps support domestic industry and local jobs and wages.
Leftists are a one-trick pony and that trick is crime. And that pony needs a trip to the glue factory.
They aren't done beating that dead horse. Leftists are scum of the earth and they will never stop their quest for power and control. Pure evil!
Obviously they have no idea how we live out in flyover country. I think I’ll put on “A Country Boy Can Survive” and cut greens from my winter garden, then get focused on building a new chicken tractor.
They had a hard time giving up their slaves as well.
It worked out fine....
Leftists are such racists.
They really are!
Grok output:
Automation and Mechanization: The agricultural sector has been steadily moving towards more automation. Even labor-intensive crops are increasingly being harvested by machines. For instance, technologies for harvesting fruits like berries and nuts are advancing, reducing the dependency on manual labor. This could mitigate labor shortages and keep food prices stable or even reduce them due to efficiency gains.
Domestic Labor Market: There's an argument that American workers could fill these roles if wages were adjusted to be competitive. With unemployment at various levels, there's a pool of labor that could be tapped into, particularly if jobs in agriculture were made more attractive through better wages, benefits, or working conditions. The idea is that with the right incentives, the workforce gap could be filled by legal residents or citizens, potentially without a significant increase in food prices.
Economic Adjustments: If labor costs do rise due to fewer workers, the market would adjust. Farmers might switch to less labor-intensive crops, invest in labor-saving technology, or increase efficiency through other means. The increase in wages might be absorbed by higher productivity or offset by other savings in the production process. This adjustment could keep increases in food prices minimal or within market tolerance.
Imports and Market Dynamics: The U.S. already imports a significant portion of its produce. An increase in domestic labor costs could be balanced by an increase in imports from countries where labor is cheaper. Additionally, market dynamics might lead to a shift in consumer behavior towards less labor-intensive produce or domestically mechanized crops, thus maintaining price stability.
Long-term Economic Health: There's also an argument for the broader economic implications. Mass deportation might reduce immediate labor costs but could lead to economic disruption. However, proponents of stricter immigration enforcement argue that the long-term benefits of legal control over the workforce could lead to more stable economic conditions, potentially offsetting any short-term increase in food prices. This perspective suggests that a regulated labor market might eventually stabilize or even lower costs through better planning and resource allocation.
Many pay a premium for organic foods. A premium for fair-trade coffee.
Why wouldn't we want to pay the market price for food without exploiting labor?? How can anyone justify lower food costs for the average consumer by exploiting labor?
Yes everyone needs to eat. Europeans have long used a higher percentage of their income for food than the US. You get what you pay for.
More made in China stuff? Or better food? IDK??
The poor who cannot afford food even now, well there is charity and numerous programs. Maybe the poor will not be so poor, when market wages are paid for labor.
Clueless dolts.
I do care for crops.
Learn to farm, useless Leftists.
It is beneath them, I guess . . .
They for got to add, 'who is gonna snatch my purse, rape my kids, etc...'
Do they not realize this is modern day slavery?
Apparently not. We need to use meme cannons with giant red pills. Relentlessly.
Every time I see a liberal made meme I sit there scratching my head, wondering what the punch line is.
One answer to these types of messages from the Left:
Yes, illegal labor reduces prices...but slave labor would reduce them more. Perhaps we should allow economic migrants, if they're desperate enough, to sell themselves into slavery for 5-10 years, to get that green card and access to our welfare system.
Indentured servitude. I have ancestors who did that to come to America legally.
Yup, but the Irish don't cry about it, we just moved up and on
Same with the Germans.
Yup, they are in that group as well. Funny thing is, the blacks that moved up and moved on are doing quite well. It's the ones belly aching about it that stay put in poverty
LBJs Great Society planned to keep them voting dem for 200 years. Mostly by taking the father out of the home, so the woman could get welfare for her and the children.
And it's a trap. The black people I know that have done well in life figured it out and got away from it as quickly as they could. It's an amazing difference in life with the right perspective.
Tried that argument. It’s correct, but it doesn’t work.
By “doesn’t work”, not only does it not work on liberals/leftists but it doesn’t work on conservatives buying slave labor products to save a few copper-plated zinc discs.
The key takeaway for me from this is that they have no understanding of the MAGA mindset, at all, they're projecting again.
For example, if the net result of deporting all those illegal immigrants was that people had to pick their own produce or pay more for it (because no-one is being paid slave wages any more because they'd be deported if they complained etc.) then MAGA would just do one of the following (not exhaustive list):-
Pick their own fruit and appreciate being outside and in-touch with nature/their food again
Work harder to earn more money to pay the additional cost, knowing that this supports the economy
Come up with a way to make fruit picking cheap without using slave labor
I'm thinking #3 myself.
You are exactly right! They demand people work for slave-rate wages.
Dems are true to their heritage:
The southern plantations used slaves for the same reasons. Slavery was on the way out. Until the cotton gin permitted BIG COTTON.
"The invention of the cotton gin caused massive growth in the production of cotton mostly in the South. Cotton production expanded from 750,000 bales in 1830 to 2.85 million bales in 1850. . . . the region became even more dependent on plantations that used black slave labor with plantation agriculture becoming the largest sector of its economy."
Some of the harvesting machines are impressive
yes
Why is produce so expensive now...when you can just turn the illegals into your personal slaves? 🙄
What is wrong with the left?
Oh, and was it the middle class wiping down dirty hotel glasses instead of replacing them with actual clean ones? The Left is gay and that’s never been funny.
PS from OP:
Now some on the left also clean their own toilets and mow their own lawns, and claim compassion for supporting illegal immigration.
BUT if they support illegal immigration!!, they are complicit in human trafficking!! and the use of these human beings as underpaid labor! Which ALSO means underpayment for the labor of themselves and their neighbors, not to mention POC.
We cannot let the "compassionate" ones off the hook for their ill-advised policies which cause HARM to both the illegals coming in under the cartels, and American families who only want to earn a decent living for their families.
Hahaha, you act like we have never done this. Hahahaha, I had to do all of this growing up. I still do after 40 years. You Elites are so dumb you don't even know what labor is. Go suck on a latte.
OH they will suck on a latte while the Mexicans etc. clean their toilets and mow their lawns etc. for the lowest wages they can pay for the most recent and desperate of trafficked people.
If no-one wants to pay living wages for those jobs, those jobs don't need doing. The free market has spoken.
Well, I do pick my vegetables, I do cut my own grass, and since my dad was a roofer, I can do that too. Even my own plumbing and electrical. Give me a rafter square, and I'll frame the whole damn house! So mass deportation doesn't affect me at all. As for a hotel room, don't use them. Tent works fine for me. Besides, growing food requires I be here full time, so even camping isn't happening right now.
Good going! Dad said my granddad was a "genius with a square" -- used to build barns.
When non-contributing zeros get the sack of reality drug across their faces...
hairy sack of magic...
When modern demoKKKrat memes meet real history: "But who's going to pick the cotton?"
Well, Democrats are the party of slave owners.
Poor Democrats. What will you ever do without their slave class of illegals?
Here's an idea, learn to adjust, just like you did when the republicans took your black slaves. No KKK this time. Okay?
...it's almost like minimum wage laws are idiotic and arbitrary...
seriously, though, why did they revive this terrible argument?
This is the way they think. They believe they are entitled to labor without paying its worth.
and yet they're the ones always arguing to increase the minimum wage.
BUT illegals who are paid under the table do not get necessarily get the minimum wage.
precisely, undermining their "compassion" and "equity" arguments, by advocating for effectively a permanent underclass.
underclass precisely to serve them!
yeah, but they can't say that out loud, it kind of undermines their whole schtick, so pointing it out is a good way to expose them.
like I said, I don't know why they dug up this shitty old argument.
YES it IS a good way to expose them! And they ARE again saying it out loud . . .
I am now picturing memes in my head: Denver Mayor vows to protect illegal immigrants with his police and citizen volunteers!
So that the Denver elites do not have to clean their own toilets or mow their own lawns!
Denver citizens are now to be the poor rebel sons, whose families did not own slaves, drafted to protect the institution of slavery, out of misplaced loyalty to the dem Party hegemony??
HA! I don't think the citizens will fall for it. WHO are these mayors kidding?? Are they that out of touch??
These clowns don’t know the purpose of a hotel.
“work as a hotel cleaner” would make more sense, but in flyover country, whites do work as hotel cleaners, so it’s not that scary.
The meme also couldn’t make up its mind. Should it have people at the grocery store checkout complaining about expensive produce, or should it have people saving money by picking their own produce in the field but for some reason still complaining about the expense? The illustration suggests that the white produce pickers are finding price tags in the field. The meme was composed by an unorganized mind, and it looks like AI, lol.
If this whole meme is supposed to be scary, it’s counterproductive. Pick food in a nice landscape with fit, non-commie white women at a 3:2 ratio? Where do I sign up? How fast do you need the illegals out of the way?
I already do my own mowing and roofing, lol. Lazy commies projecting.
What do the hats say under “WEIRD”?
I could not figure out why the hats say WEIRD and could not read the rest of the text.
Get ready for mass genocides.
Do liberals know how to start a lawn mower, clean or fix their house or car? Too busy on their iphones paying $10 for a cup of coffee at commie starbucks. The house down the block will no longer have 5 familes and 15 kids in it anymore as well.
"The house down the block will no longer have 5 familes and 15 kids in it anymore as well."
As far as we can tell, they don't care about the living conditions of their cheap labor.
They only care when we try to kick them out. muh racist