Not that I'm defending porn, but if, for example, a woman and man both knowingly and consensually engage in sex on camera for the purpose of selling it to make a profit, what part of that is a crime against humanity?
It's a crime against God. It is also sinful and degenerate to view it.
Why are 90% of porn producers jewish though?
Porn makes you weak and flaccid. It eliminates your will to live and thrive. It destroys families. Porn is absolutely a mechanism to placate you. Why is there so much free porn? Because you are the product.
Spot on. This persistent libertarian idea that "as long as two people consent to (x action), it's perfectly fine" is cancerous. Porn mentally and spiritually damages the people involved and all of those watching. Hurting yourself and others is an affront to God, and also a crime against humanity by hurting millions of people who partake. Let's not even get started on how many children (average of 12 for boys) who have completely had their view of people warped by pornography.
Just because it is voluntary doesn't mean it isn't a crime.
Edit: I always find it funny how conservatives and libertarians will generally agree with me until I bring the topic of porn. Interesting how defensive people get when it comes to watching a bunch of strangers fornicate. Do yourself a favor and watch some videos (plenty on YT) about the dangers of porn.
That figure has been updated to 7 yo for boys and 9 yo for girls. The internet made it younger. Smartphones and zero supervision made it incredibly young.
Steve Deace once said when you hear a preacher raging against a particular sin, it's the one he's struggling with.
We struggle with porn. I do. I'm one of those people you mentioned who was warped by it at the age of 12. Yet, the love/hate nature of the addiction is hard to break and acknowledge, not to mention the guilt of wanting to use it, the shame of giving in, the understanding that it's bad, yet doing it anyway.
Not everyone can admit that. So we end up turning into Gollum, simultaneously loving and hating the "precious."
Eh my girlfriend and I are long distance. Limited on things. Porn is good for her, and it's best to watch it on a site that will riddle you with viruses if you so much as click on the play button compared to Pornhub.
Once we move in together (after our lives are a bit more together, particularly mine as she is coming to live here) neither of us are going to have time for things like that anyway because we are going to be building a life together and that takes effort and commitment, not to mention it's pretty exhausting to be an adult without much direction.
Naw. Resisting gay marriage is understanding that marriage exists for a purpose involving reproduction and raising children, not getting a tax break from the government.
Hmm. Based on your comment it sounds like you'd be more comfortable in a theocratic oligarchy. The Christian ideas the US were founded on freedom of choice. Freedom to choose to follow God, freedom to choose what to partake in and not to... If you're not comfortable with people's freedom of choice, this isn't the "Christian" country for you.
This is how it appears to a third party reader of this convo: You're attacking a straw man and you're defending pervertedly watching strangers fuck on camera to get your jollies. Knight-errant is correct that porn is a weapon against morals and spirit. It's unjustifiable to defend watching porn as a Christian moral choice.
You seem to have a twisted understanding of the freedom that the Founding Fathers promoted. It had nothing to do with giving free license to be complete degenerates. Their idea of freedom was not about the freedom to spread pornography and consume such things. It was freedom to be unmolested by overreaching governments when it came to things like freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to defend one's own life.
This modern conception of freedom that you hold yourself wasn't introduced into out society until the 20th century by a bunch of sick "intellectuals" from the Frankfurt school.
Yep. It's funny how quickly the Constitution is flushed when religious morality butts its way in. That's why I walked away from Conservatism. While well meaning... Conservatives tend to pick their personal values over Constitutional freedom.
It's legal to drink yourself into a coma and smoke 8 packs of cigs a day, but it doesn't mean there aren't serious consequences. Dopamine is a drug and pornstars are dealers.
Quite the hostile response. Coomer aggression, perhaps? Specifically where in the constitution are you referring to that "religious morality" wants to override in regards to porn?
It also puts you out of fellowship with God, which then puts you out from under the special protection you have when you stay close to him, and prevents you from receiving the blessing you might have received. There are spiritual consequences both for you and your family.
Pretty harsh answer and not what I meant. I wasn't talking about salvation. But you can't be truly saved, still pursue sin, and expect to keep the same level of fellowship as if you are walking faithfully. "Can fresh water and salt water come from the same well?" If you are out of fellowship with God, how can you put on the whole armor of God for your protection from spiritual attack? I will have to think more about how to communicate this better. Thank you for challenging me.
I always felt like anti sex laws were just an antiquated way to control women. If you want to sell your hooch, the law shouldn't get in the way, morals should definitely but not the law.
Those laws are actually meant to control men by turning them into simps and forcing them into relationshits. In today's society, men would be much better off (and less at risk) if they could simply pay for sex as needed and spend the rest of their time focused on themselves and their goals.
Instead, to fulfil their biological urges, men have to waste (I mean "invest") their time and energy which has the net effect of promoting beta qualities and has probably aided the spread of the "nice guy" mentality.
There will always be people that are willing to sell their bodies. We're concerned with the countless victims that did not consent. Which is probably a high percentage.
That, in and off itself, may not support trafficking. But if it’s distributed through any of the major platforms it supports traffickers’ user numbers and ads.
Congratulations, I'm on the same path as you. Only back up to a week as of now after trying for a couple years. My longest so far has been between 30-40 days.
Pornography is being used to morally degrade our culture and I would prefer it be illegal or extremely expensive and hard to come by, as it was before the internet.
Odd that you went for the babies, but my point is, it was a way to get boobs in the public square. If you don't think artists aren't perverted, you've bought the biggest lie of human history.
More male shaming... you can't put the genie back in the bottle, unless you want to move to Saudi Arabia. Tho porn is still available there, its just underground.
Yeah it seems obvious to me the awful shit that's pushed. I stopped watching porn at the start of 'Rona. have only broke my rule maybe 5 times in the past 14 mos
Agreed. I'm just beginning to read the Bible as an adult for the first time in my life. The biblical moral grandstanding in threads like this is REALLY turning me off here.
If you want to throw in some Bible verses that's fine, but I should not have to scroll thru pages and pages of it, for an unrelated topic.
And how much of your time is spent on sports, tv, restaurants, community activities- look, point is, everything is designed for pacification. Moderation in everything is key. Porn is no more or less worse than other vices and distractions. It just seems that way because our society puts sex on a pedestal.
If you read the Bible, you'll know that there's a constant struggle between our flesh and God's will. Some things might "feel good," but we know that many of those things are wrong.
For instance, would you argue that cheating on your wife would feel good? I bet it would in the moment. But this is still wrong.
Are you saying that because Jesus saves us, that we are not to put effort into doing right by the Word of God? I'm a little confused by your series of questions.
Porn is no worse than say McDonalds. You know it's crap. You know you'll regret it afterwards... But you still do it anyway.
Sure playing with your kids in the park seems good. But that's time you could have spent volunteering at a homeless shelter or picking up trash. Instead you invest that time in your family? Selfish.
It's no more or less selfish than investing time into yourself. My point is, we blow this out if proportion.
I am well aware of the spiritual implications. The sin is more in consent and lack thereof. Consent changes everything. But if you really think that spanking it to a pair of boobs is somehow gonna keep you from God, then I feel sorry for you.
Ive gotten a closer relationship to God by praying directly and interpreting the Bible myself as opposed to reading the Bible and asking another human on what it means to me.
The obsession many here have with certain "sins" (if you even believe some of these things actually are sinful) is weird. Jesus told them that those who are without sin may cast the first stone, but I can imagine many around him being offended and kidding themselves saying "I'm throwing these stones out of love and to remind them about God."
Also I'm pretty sure Jesus came down to spread the gospel because people who were listening to fallen angels were using the scripture against the people, Jesus was there to remind everyone what it really meant to just love each other and witness God's power and love. Unfortunately people in power still listen to fallen angels use the old words to divide society.
One last thing, according to the small Russian sect of Christians, everyone here is sinning in God's eyes because they haven't castrated themselves. I bet they wouldn't be very welcome if they started posting that every other day on a fucking Q forum, but yet "God dislikes it when you touch your penis. God cries when two people have sex." posts are here all the time and bless you if you go against the hive mind. That's why people need to pray to God directly for advice, they will get the advice they need and it will apply to them specifically, not random internet strangers.
No, it is worse, because it is sin against the self. It drags the soul to the very lowest place it can go. Totally fleshly spirit, of the world. Totally. Heavy, heavy. Nothing spiritual or light, just ugliness and despair.
My deal is to promote open discussion of porn. I'm turfing every comment that's fallaciously wrong and based mostly on religious zealotry and interpretation.
You are more than welcome to contribute, but if you're looking for close mindedness, you are the one in the wrong site.
Watching porn (and masturbating to it) physically rewires your brain and completely fucks your reward circuits. Have you ever thought about why you are so vehemently defending degeneracy?
Because I'm a Jeffersonian Republican who believes in individual Liberty and freedom of choice. Yeah it's degenerate. Most everything in our culture is. Even religion can be degenerate.
Porn no more rewires your systems than smoking. It's not impossible to educate and awaken people with facts, but to insinuate that it literally changes your physical brain is stupid. Porn should have warning labels same as cigarettes and alcohol and better education on the illusion should happen. But banning it? No.
Going Camaro, so in your "openness", do you also embrace bestiality? Just curious, (since animals and children) cannot either consent or escape? Sounds like "your deal" is more along the lines of "do what thou wilt" or some other satanic pedophile bullshit, so fuck you.
So not only is your evidence anecdotal, but you can't even contribute your findings to the group... Why bother saying anything at all?
You're basically like the "leakers" in the Whitehouse citing anonymous sources... Ironically enough, if you kept the people you know anonymous, I would still give it fair consideration.
Power and control through any means is their greatest weapon.
Otherwise, thank you for sharing the practical effects of no fap. No it's not easy because in reality you're fighting something you can't overcome: yourself and your own desires. So stop fighting. Accept that your a human who likes sex and wants to have sex. Then figure out what matters to you and do or refrain from what you feel you must. Again, emphasis on personal choice and real life observable differences.
Let's be realistic boys, how about we aim for the achievable goal of only watching porn that existed before 2021. No demand for new porn achieves the same effect, and this is at least something people might actually do.
Dont get me wrong, happy to see porn die, just living in reality.
I only watch hopium porn these days... I highly suggest it... you will come so hard from rewatching hillary getting thrown into that van on repeat.... Im talking drenched... ;) love ya patriots...
All consensual porn is legal. As it should be. You should make the choice for yourself not to partake. Not control others because you can't control yourself.
What I meant is that it really isn't a choice, since everything on TV, social media, a lot of what comes from entertainment is hyper-sexualized. It's almost as if there is no escape from it!
I've stopped over a year ago, used to enjoy comics but artists keep using minors claiming they're "adults" used to never rarely see that now its common. then I started finding dark rabbit holes on popular porn sites without even looking for them.
now I follow and contrubute to threads that discuss how degenerate porn is getting. people are noticing and don't like it.
ph has also been caught with cp on their site, amd their mansion just went up in flames. somehow I don't think that was coincidence
Just want to say how odd it is that all OP has to do is say "stop watching porn" and all the cucks come out of the woodwork to aimlessly argue over the Constitution and Christianity. Lol, seriously? How old are we?
Former port addict here. This can't be said enough. That's a reality that could really help people quit. However given my own sensitivities to it I can't help but stress to show mercy on the addicts too. It is absolutely a shame that they contribute to the consumption of another persons trauma, however I know from the place of a former porn addict; I think they need a graceful approach too. It is in fact an addiction. The gratification of ejaculation does substitute real sexual desires. Doesn't justify it; but it's true. Porn gives the lonely soul a pretty little lie that robs people of having genuine God approved sexual intimacy with a spouse. And the worst part is it preys on the lonely soul desperate for intimacy as well as someone who was themselves exposed to pornografic content at a young age. I myself was 10 the first time I was exposed to porn and can recall (though I am not certain because it was a more foggy memory) of sexual situations that occurred with an older cousin. Pretty sure at one point I fondled her breasts. It's a hard memory to process because it's broken up but the fact remains that some people hooked on porn were themselves taught and exposed to porographic perversions of sex at such a young age that it's warped their minds. People can say what they want but when you're raised in it, it does change the way you think. Just like abusing hard drugs... truly any substance someone becomes dependant on. Anyways I'm not here to disregard your post friend. It's true and needs be said; I just hope that you and everyone else on this board doesn't get into the trap of shaming these people (addicts) into changing. I recently confided on this board about slipping back into self gratification (absent of porn but still masturbation). If not for the prayers and love from this community I might have fallen away for good. But the prayers, reproof, and love shown from our Christian brethren and sisters revived me enough to get up, repent and continue pushing toward the goal which is Jesus Christ. Whom has already saved me but is now sanctifying me and all of us that are His. I'm not disagreeing with your post; just don't forget to love those hooked in that, friend. It is in fact an addiction no less than cocaine/heroin.
God bless you in Jesus name and you have my updoot for bringing up awareness of it. It is a very important topic. Amen
Yea I can't really watch porn as since I got older i would think "Man, this is someone's daughter" and I'd feel really bad. As for the the no fap superpowers people are espousing I'm gonna call bull but it might be different for everyone. I also wonder how much these the guys were jacking it if it really was affecting their lives so much.
When you quit jerking off to porn, miracles can happen. You become more like you dipped in you sauce. You'll suddenly realize how insanely perverted you've been and how it only gets worse as you fall deeper down the pit. It's also very rewarding to have one woman to channel all of your energy into. Get a good woman and start a family. It's the only way we're gonna overcome The World.
I used to be OK with porn because of libertarian attitude and wOmEn EmPOwErMeNt but the science and current situation we're in shows how destructive it can be. It's also not protected under the 1st amendment and everyone knows that was not the founders' intent.
Sex perversions turn people antisocial, misanthropic, and insatiable. Normal porn has the same effects on the brain as cocaine, and certain personalities will seek out more extreme porn until they get to the point of child abuse. We're told to tolerate the perverted or else we're the unforgivable bigots. Everything is turned upside down, and we sit around wondering how the left will get society to accept pedophiles. Porn is a great cultural tool to make that happen.
The legal porn industry is definitely a front for human trafficking and child abuse and the money eventually flows into the black market stuff.
Not that I'm defending porn, but if, for example, a woman and man both knowingly and consensually engage in sex on camera for the purpose of selling it to make a profit, what part of that is a crime against humanity?
It's a crime against God. It is also sinful and degenerate to view it.
Why are 90% of porn producers jewish though?
Porn makes you weak and flaccid. It eliminates your will to live and thrive. It destroys families. Porn is absolutely a mechanism to placate you. Why is there so much free porn? Because you are the product.
Spot on. This persistent libertarian idea that "as long as two people consent to (x action), it's perfectly fine" is cancerous. Porn mentally and spiritually damages the people involved and all of those watching. Hurting yourself and others is an affront to God, and also a crime against humanity by hurting millions of people who partake. Let's not even get started on how many children (average of 12 for boys) who have completely had their view of people warped by pornography.
Just because it is voluntary doesn't mean it isn't a crime.
Edit: I always find it funny how conservatives and libertarians will generally agree with me until I bring the topic of porn. Interesting how defensive people get when it comes to watching a bunch of strangers fornicate. Do yourself a favor and watch some videos (plenty on YT) about the dangers of porn.
That figure has been updated to 7 yo for boys and 9 yo for girls. The internet made it younger. Smartphones and zero supervision made it incredibly young.
That's a shame, though I'm not surprised. The inevitable consequence of making porn free and readily available at the click of a button.
The only porn that was ever worth watching is vintage 80s Taiwanese VHS costume-drama comedy-porn. Everything else was boring and stupid.
Steve Deace once said when you hear a preacher raging against a particular sin, it's the one he's struggling with.
We struggle with porn. I do. I'm one of those people you mentioned who was warped by it at the age of 12. Yet, the love/hate nature of the addiction is hard to break and acknowledge, not to mention the guilt of wanting to use it, the shame of giving in, the understanding that it's bad, yet doing it anyway.
Not everyone can admit that. So we end up turning into Gollum, simultaneously loving and hating the "precious."
Eh my girlfriend and I are long distance. Limited on things. Porn is good for her, and it's best to watch it on a site that will riddle you with viruses if you so much as click on the play button compared to Pornhub.
Once we move in together (after our lives are a bit more together, particularly mine as she is coming to live here) neither of us are going to have time for things like that anyway because we are going to be building a life together and that takes effort and commitment, not to mention it's pretty exhausting to be an adult without much direction.
Deace isn't Jewish.
Naw. Resisting gay marriage is understanding that marriage exists for a purpose involving reproduction and raising children, not getting a tax break from the government.
I think a Middle Eastern Muslim dominated country would be a better fit for you.
No thanks, I prefer Christian countries.
Hmm. Based on your comment it sounds like you'd be more comfortable in a theocratic oligarchy. The Christian ideas the US were founded on freedom of choice. Freedom to choose to follow God, freedom to choose what to partake in and not to... If you're not comfortable with people's freedom of choice, this isn't the "Christian" country for you.
This is how it appears to a third party reader of this convo: You're attacking a straw man and you're defending pervertedly watching strangers fuck on camera to get your jollies. Knight-errant is correct that porn is a weapon against morals and spirit. It's unjustifiable to defend watching porn as a Christian moral choice.
It has more to do with self control. Christianity is about self control, not having a theocratic government dictate what your moral code is.
Porn is bad. There arent any justifications for it.
You seem to have a twisted understanding of the freedom that the Founding Fathers promoted. It had nothing to do with giving free license to be complete degenerates. Their idea of freedom was not about the freedom to spread pornography and consume such things. It was freedom to be unmolested by overreaching governments when it came to things like freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to defend one's own life.
This modern conception of freedom that you hold yourself wasn't introduced into out society until the 20th century by a bunch of sick "intellectuals" from the Frankfurt school.
I'm off the belief that the boner should be saved for real life usage. Call me crazy. If you're that bored take a walk.
Man... I wish my sex drive was triggered by boredom...
Yep. It's funny how quickly the Constitution is flushed when religious morality butts its way in. That's why I walked away from Conservatism. While well meaning... Conservatives tend to pick their personal values over Constitutional freedom.
It's legal to drink yourself into a coma and smoke 8 packs of cigs a day, but it doesn't mean there aren't serious consequences. Dopamine is a drug and pornstars are dealers.
I wouldnt argue that it is illegal. Not one bit. Legal and moral dont mean the same thing.
No where in the Constitution does it say you have the right to watch porn.
Funny how you are all about the 1st amendment until Christians start expressing their views of what is moral and what isn't.
Which amendment would porn fall under?
Quite the hostile response. Coomer aggression, perhaps? Specifically where in the constitution are you referring to that "religious morality" wants to override in regards to porn?
It also can destroy your wealth, just look at OnlyFans.
It also puts you out of fellowship with God, which then puts you out from under the special protection you have when you stay close to him, and prevents you from receiving the blessing you might have received. There are spiritual consequences both for you and your family.
Pretty harsh answer and not what I meant. I wasn't talking about salvation. But you can't be truly saved, still pursue sin, and expect to keep the same level of fellowship as if you are walking faithfully. "Can fresh water and salt water come from the same well?" If you are out of fellowship with God, how can you put on the whole armor of God for your protection from spiritual attack? I will have to think more about how to communicate this better. Thank you for challenging me.
I still feel like you are distorting what I meant, but I don't have the time to argue about it today.
I always felt like anti sex laws were just an antiquated way to control women. If you want to sell your hooch, the law shouldn't get in the way, morals should definitely but not the law.
Those laws are actually meant to control men by turning them into simps and forcing them into relationshits. In today's society, men would be much better off (and less at risk) if they could simply pay for sex as needed and spend the rest of their time focused on themselves and their goals.
Instead, to fulfil their biological urges, men have to waste (I mean "invest") their time and energy which has the net effect of promoting beta qualities and has probably aided the spread of the "nice guy" mentality.
There will always be people that are willing to sell their bodies. We're concerned with the countless victims that did not consent. Which is probably a high percentage.
Consent is key.
That, in and off itself, may not support trafficking. But if it’s distributed through any of the major platforms it supports traffickers’ user numbers and ads.
Yeah but daddy has the good good.
You pay with your soul.
No you don't.
Are you jerking it right now?
You'll figure it out sooner or later.
Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
Congratulations, I'm on the same path as you. Only back up to a week as of now after trying for a couple years. My longest so far has been between 30-40 days.
Did 150 days myself. It's worth it, but must be for the right reasons and you can't fight your urges. You must accept them.
Oh, I wish so many men weren't so hooked on porn. It makes dating men very stressful.
God Bless you and please pray for continued strength to fight the demons who will tempt you.
Pornography is being used to morally degrade our culture and I would prefer it be illegal or extremely expensive and hard to come by, as it was before the internet.
Possession -> jail time
Production -> capital punishment
Sex has morally degraded all cultures. Do you really believe renaissance art wasn't porn?
How many dicks did those renaissance babes usually have inside them in those paintings?
Odd that you went for the babies, but my point is, it was a way to get boobs in the public square. If you don't think artists aren't perverted, you've bought the biggest lie of human history.
I said babes...
Which are depicted as prepubescent children...
wtf get help bro
I'm not the one arguing in favor of public display of child porn. Which babes can technically fall under.
More male shaming... you can't put the genie back in the bottle, unless you want to move to Saudi Arabia. Tho porn is still available there, its just underground.
Where did this commenter mention men?
hahaha this made me chuckle but seriously good for you fren!
Yeah it seems obvious to me the awful shit that's pushed. I stopped watching porn at the start of 'Rona. have only broke my rule maybe 5 times in the past 14 mos
Not all porn is a result of human trafficking. That's like saying "buying guns supports gun violence".
It's sad no one here wants to have a productive, raw and real discussion. Instead it's condemn and cower in the corner with your Bible.
Agreed. I'm just beginning to read the Bible as an adult for the first time in my life. The biblical moral grandstanding in threads like this is REALLY turning me off here.
If you want to throw in some Bible verses that's fine, but I should not have to scroll thru pages and pages of it, for an unrelated topic.
Excellent! The bible is fantastic!
God bless you fren. Hey we can disagree about thing like this its fine. Remember though that when it clicks for you it'll be fantastic!
My question is. Do you feel good about yourself after watching porn?
I have not yet found a church worthy of getting money.
Do not remove the splinter from your brothers eyes lest your remove the mote from yours first.
I dont have a computer.
Every follower of Christ is supposed to spread the gospel.
Anyways God bless you fren. I pray we all find our way.
Not all of us here are Bible thumpers.
And how much of your time is spent on sports, tv, restaurants, community activities- look, point is, everything is designed for pacification. Moderation in everything is key. Porn is no more or less worse than other vices and distractions. It just seems that way because our society puts sex on a pedestal.
Found the coomer ?
Jk I see your point, but f porn. It sucks
See how that makes no sense? Porn in moderation won't hurt you.
Porn isn't a necessary step in getting off though
This doesnt hold water...
I.e. pizzagate. This sick shit they do makes them feel good.
If you read the Bible, you'll know that there's a constant struggle between our flesh and God's will. Some things might "feel good," but we know that many of those things are wrong.
For instance, would you argue that cheating on your wife would feel good? I bet it would in the moment. But this is still wrong.
Are you saying that because Jesus saves us, that we are not to put effort into doing right by the Word of God? I'm a little confused by your series of questions.
Depends on the porn, but no I'm not gonna argue against the degeneracy.
It sucks that you are being truthful and it hurts their view of God, so you get downvoted to death.
Porn is no worse than say McDonalds. You know it's crap. You know you'll regret it afterwards... But you still do it anyway.
Sure playing with your kids in the park seems good. But that's time you could have spent volunteering at a homeless shelter or picking up trash. Instead you invest that time in your family? Selfish.
It's no more or less selfish than investing time into yourself. My point is, we blow this out if proportion.
I am well aware of the spiritual implications. The sin is more in consent and lack thereof. Consent changes everything. But if you really think that spanking it to a pair of boobs is somehow gonna keep you from God, then I feel sorry for you.
Ive gotten a closer relationship to God by praying directly and interpreting the Bible myself as opposed to reading the Bible and asking another human on what it means to me.
The obsession many here have with certain "sins" (if you even believe some of these things actually are sinful) is weird. Jesus told them that those who are without sin may cast the first stone, but I can imagine many around him being offended and kidding themselves saying "I'm throwing these stones out of love and to remind them about God."
Also I'm pretty sure Jesus came down to spread the gospel because people who were listening to fallen angels were using the scripture against the people, Jesus was there to remind everyone what it really meant to just love each other and witness God's power and love. Unfortunately people in power still listen to fallen angels use the old words to divide society.
One last thing, according to the small Russian sect of Christians, everyone here is sinning in God's eyes because they haven't castrated themselves. I bet they wouldn't be very welcome if they started posting that every other day on a fucking Q forum, but yet "God dislikes it when you touch your penis. God cries when two people have sex." posts are here all the time and bless you if you go against the hive mind. That's why people need to pray to God directly for advice, they will get the advice they need and it will apply to them specifically, not random internet strangers.
No, it is worse, because it is sin against the self. It drags the soul to the very lowest place it can go. Totally fleshly spirit, of the world. Totally. Heavy, heavy. Nothing spiritual or light, just ugliness and despair.
I bet they eat shrimp too, how shellfish.
It's like they haven't even read the Bible.
Definitely not wrong, this needs to be bumped up
OP made a statement with no source material. It's an opinion, not fact.
So this is always a fun one, the "he didn't source it" argument. Me giving my opinion that his opinion is not wrong, doesn't make it a fact by any stretch of the imagination. But since Google is hard, here: Explanation of the link between the two https://nbc-2.com/news/2021/01/12/heres-how-your-porn-habit-could-be-helping-human-sex-traffickers/ Some random site with similar information https://fightthenewdrug.org/by-the-numbers-porn-sex-trafficking-connected/ A shit website that has a similar concern about how bad it is https://www.huffpost.com/entry/want-to-stop-sex-traffick_b_6563338 Lawsuit that sheds some more light on a direct instance bbc.com/news/technology-55333403
Not sourcing isn't an argument. It's simple fact.
These are some interesting reads, but I am 100% certain the porn isn't going away once all human trafficking is ended.
Found the porn producer.
What is your fucking deal? You're turfing every single comment. You might want to rethink whether or not you belong here.
My deal is to promote open discussion of porn. I'm turfing every comment that's fallaciously wrong and based mostly on religious zealotry and interpretation.
You are more than welcome to contribute, but if you're looking for close mindedness, you are the one in the wrong site.
Watching porn (and masturbating to it) physically rewires your brain and completely fucks your reward circuits. Have you ever thought about why you are so vehemently defending degeneracy?
Because I'm a Jeffersonian Republican who believes in individual Liberty and freedom of choice. Yeah it's degenerate. Most everything in our culture is. Even religion can be degenerate.
Porn no more rewires your systems than smoking. It's not impossible to educate and awaken people with facts, but to insinuate that it literally changes your physical brain is stupid. Porn should have warning labels same as cigarettes and alcohol and better education on the illusion should happen. But banning it? No.
Going Camaro, so in your "openness", do you also embrace bestiality? Just curious, (since animals and children) cannot either consent or escape? Sounds like "your deal" is more along the lines of "do what thou wilt" or some other satanic pedophile bullshit, so fuck you.
Yeah, but those thing are illegal. Porn isnt. Kinda taking the discussion in a different direction.
So... OP said porn contributes to trafficking. Not that trafficking is the source of all porn.
You can always tell who the degenerate losers are in the comments when this topic comes up.
Porn destroys the consumers as well as the producers.
It wrecks lives.
So does fast food. So does buying from a store or restaurant.
I've seen it ruin lives, I'm not saying it for brownie points.
Can you provide examples?
I can but I won't.
I'll just say that for some people it escalates until it is an addiction, and an addiction which can wreck lives.
I'm sure you can find out about porn addiction with a quick search
So not only is your evidence anecdotal, but you can't even contribute your findings to the group... Why bother saying anything at all?
You're basically like the "leakers" in the Whitehouse citing anonymous sources... Ironically enough, if you kept the people you know anonymous, I would still give it fair consideration.
kek
My life doesn't suck.
shut the fuck up and go read some of that material
"Watch Tiny Stepsister GET DESTROYED and bred by BBC while her WHITE HUSBAND WATCHES"
Surely theres no agena here Goy!!
so youve never heard of rule 34?
Power and control through any means is their greatest weapon.
Otherwise, thank you for sharing the practical effects of no fap. No it's not easy because in reality you're fighting something you can't overcome: yourself and your own desires. So stop fighting. Accept that your a human who likes sex and wants to have sex. Then figure out what matters to you and do or refrain from what you feel you must. Again, emphasis on personal choice and real life observable differences.
Also 100% agree with ending human trafficking.
Yup^
Let's be realistic boys, how about we aim for the achievable goal of only watching porn that existed before 2021. No demand for new porn achieves the same effect, and this is at least something people might actually do.
Dont get me wrong, happy to see porn die, just living in reality.
And use observable, tangible facts to encourage less use. Get people to experience a better life when they break the illusion.
I only watch hopium porn these days... I highly suggest it... you will come so hard from rewatching hillary getting thrown into that van on repeat.... Im talking drenched... ;) love ya patriots...
Biden gone wild on the stairs. One of my favorites.
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How many girls do you think you watched were trafficked as children and knew their life as parents, or not as sex slaves.
Think about that next time you wank to porn
Better stop listening to pop music then...and Disney shows...and pretty much anything involving Hollywood.
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Porn is obvious and in your face. You don't see porn stars (Yes, even Stormy Daniels) virtue signaling about how fucking woke and wonderful they are.
Hollywood pretends to be something that they are not - which is anything better than (and in many cases much worse) the porn industry.
The "casting couch" exists for a reason.
Uhm. Yeah thats what weve been promoting haven't we? Stop seeing movies with shitty actors, stop supporting music from shitty people, etc?
I'm gonna guess hardly any of them.
you are on greatawakening.win.... and you cant grasp the idea of children being trafficked?
And what about couples who watch porn to be fruitful?
Wow, that’s disgusting dude.
why would you watch porn when you could have sex?
They need new partners
Someone said in this thread that anime art is protected by the 1A.
All consensual porn is legal. As it should be. You should make the choice for yourself not to partake. Not control others because you can't control yourself.
It isn't a choice, it's addictive. Research the effects on one's body when placated by porn. In reality, this is why some things shouldn't be abused.
What I meant is that it really isn't a choice, since everything on TV, social media, a lot of what comes from entertainment is hyper-sexualized. It's almost as if there is no escape from it!
As a shameless male, I can confirm that simulated nudity works fine too.
I’m almost 1 year free of porn. Life is so much better without it! Stop using porn, you don’t need it!!!
Yes!
I've stopped over a year ago, used to enjoy comics but artists keep using minors claiming they're "adults" used to never rarely see that now its common. then I started finding dark rabbit holes on popular porn sites without even looking for them.
now I follow and contrubute to threads that discuss how degenerate porn is getting. people are noticing and don't like it.
ph has also been caught with cp on their site, amd their mansion just went up in flames. somehow I don't think that was coincidence
Link on the mansion bit? I thought we don't even know who owns MindGeek for sure
I am working at overcoming porn addiction. This video was very helpful to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gf2QQ63CUw
Just want to say how odd it is that all OP has to do is say "stop watching porn" and all the cucks come out of the woodwork to aimlessly argue over the Constitution and Christianity. Lol, seriously? How old are we?
How does watching Riley Reid get repeatedly blacked contribute to that?
If you're gonna watch it, make some with your hubby or wife, and then watch that.
That's what the ex and I used to do. It was fun and kept the marriage interesting. It also kept us from "wondering," if you get my meaning.
Former port addict here. This can't be said enough. That's a reality that could really help people quit. However given my own sensitivities to it I can't help but stress to show mercy on the addicts too. It is absolutely a shame that they contribute to the consumption of another persons trauma, however I know from the place of a former porn addict; I think they need a graceful approach too. It is in fact an addiction. The gratification of ejaculation does substitute real sexual desires. Doesn't justify it; but it's true. Porn gives the lonely soul a pretty little lie that robs people of having genuine God approved sexual intimacy with a spouse. And the worst part is it preys on the lonely soul desperate for intimacy as well as someone who was themselves exposed to pornografic content at a young age. I myself was 10 the first time I was exposed to porn and can recall (though I am not certain because it was a more foggy memory) of sexual situations that occurred with an older cousin. Pretty sure at one point I fondled her breasts. It's a hard memory to process because it's broken up but the fact remains that some people hooked on porn were themselves taught and exposed to porographic perversions of sex at such a young age that it's warped their minds. People can say what they want but when you're raised in it, it does change the way you think. Just like abusing hard drugs... truly any substance someone becomes dependant on. Anyways I'm not here to disregard your post friend. It's true and needs be said; I just hope that you and everyone else on this board doesn't get into the trap of shaming these people (addicts) into changing. I recently confided on this board about slipping back into self gratification (absent of porn but still masturbation). If not for the prayers and love from this community I might have fallen away for good. But the prayers, reproof, and love shown from our Christian brethren and sisters revived me enough to get up, repent and continue pushing toward the goal which is Jesus Christ. Whom has already saved me but is now sanctifying me and all of us that are His. I'm not disagreeing with your post; just don't forget to love those hooked in that, friend. It is in fact an addiction no less than cocaine/heroin.
God bless you in Jesus name and you have my updoot for bringing up awareness of it. It is a very important topic. Amen
Yea I can't really watch porn as since I got older i would think "Man, this is someone's daughter" and I'd feel really bad. As for the the no fap superpowers people are espousing I'm gonna call bull but it might be different for everyone. I also wonder how much these the guys were jacking it if it really was affecting their lives so much.
When you quit jerking off to porn, miracles can happen. You become more like you dipped in you sauce. You'll suddenly realize how insanely perverted you've been and how it only gets worse as you fall deeper down the pit. It's also very rewarding to have one woman to channel all of your energy into. Get a good woman and start a family. It's the only way we're gonna overcome The World.
Hentai! Lol
I haven't looked at porn since I had the awakening! Just feels weird
Come on. Does gun ownership condone criminal gun violence and weapons trafficking? Obviously not all porn is evil because of some bad actors.
Lol no, have fun with that
I used to be OK with porn because of libertarian attitude and wOmEn EmPOwErMeNt but the science and current situation we're in shows how destructive it can be. It's also not protected under the 1st amendment and everyone knows that was not the founders' intent.
Sex perversions turn people antisocial, misanthropic, and insatiable. Normal porn has the same effects on the brain as cocaine, and certain personalities will seek out more extreme porn until they get to the point of child abuse. We're told to tolerate the perverted or else we're the unforgivable bigots. Everything is turned upside down, and we sit around wondering how the left will get society to accept pedophiles. Porn is a great cultural tool to make that happen.
The legal porn industry is definitely a front for human trafficking and child abuse and the money eventually flows into the black market stuff.
It’s okay I’m more of a hentai guy. /s
No real man needs porn.