Although her family are all conservatives, she ended up being the loud mouth liberal in the bunch.
She is my youngest brother's wife. And generally gets along with everyone but she came over today for lunch and we got into it. Here's how it went.
Her: Have you seen the latest numbers?
Me: yea. What about them?
Her: Maybe you should think about getting the vaccine and talking the rest of the family into it instead of being an anti vaxxer.
Me: I don't make their decisions. But since you want to talk about numbers, let's talk.
(At this point I asked her very simple questions to end this quickly)
Me: how many people in ICU are terminal patients dying from chronic illness who also happen to have covid?
Her: uhh I don't know.
Me: If someone dies or is hospitalized/ICU within 14 days of getting the second dose labeled as a covid?
Her: I don't know.
Me: why are there more deaths this year than last year if the Delta variant has a higher rate of transmission but less deadly?
Her: what do you mean?
Me: Why are states and nation's with early mass vaccination numbers seeing a higher total and rate in vaccinated for hospitalized and dead than unvaxxed?
Her: More people are vaccinated
Me: I specifically said rate. Explain.
Her: unvaccinated are spreading and causing mutation
Me: so 100% of the planet needs to get vaccinated?
Her: I don't know. Maybe.
Me: what other "vaccine" required 100% of the planet to get it?
Her: uhhh I don't know
Me: None. What happens to a population after being locked down for nearly 2 years without socializing, minimal exercise and binging on junk food and alcohol? What happens when they open up again? What happens to a person's immune system when depressed?
Her: uhh what does that have to do with anything?
Me: you're not welcome around my children or in my home until you smarten up. I've already texted my brother. Time to leave
I've had it with these people. I genuinely can't take their stupidity anymore.
She’s brainwashed with the Rockefeller Protocol.
You're all in once you've decided to take on enough debt to purchase a house so of course they're brainwashed. Slavery takes on many forms.
Correct.
“You can take your fear and get the fuck away from my family.”
This is why it's so important to the Cabal that everyone go into debt. You won't fight back against them because you'll be too pre-occupied trying to financially survive.
And it seems few doctors have the courage to question their training or the medical establishment. VERY few if one goes on "how many have spoken up against the establishment lies? How many are prescribing HCQ/zinc or ivermectin/zinc?"
Good point. Also, some people become doctors for prestige and money, not compassion for their fellow man.
Most doctors are being threatened with revocation of their license which would render 12+ years of college and graduate debt WASTED. Of COURSE they fall in line!
That is not a reason to kill everyone and those doctors will be spending their lives in prison when this is over. So what did they get by keeping their jobs and how many died because they were cowards?
There is absolutely no other explanation. We were supposed to have a Labor Day pool gathering at our home tomorrow...end of summer and all that...but husband found out that he was in the company of someone who tested positive for covid and since they were together 5 days ago in a meeting, our daughter who is a brainwashed medical professional said she wouldn't attend.
Me: "But you're vaccinated, so what's the problem?"
Her: "Well, there are breakthrough cases and it could still spread".
Me: "So the vax doesn't work?"
Her: "Well it's not that it doesn't work, it's just that there are some breakthrough cases....
Me: "Oh, OK. THAT makes sense..."
Yeah it couldn't possibly be the foreign unnatural substance you had injected into your body that's making you sick. Must be some other thing in the air that no one can prove exists.
We're getting the all-time lesson in "you can't fix stupid".
Either that or "Here's your sign"...
You should be pushing her to stay away from those who are sick. She's killed her immune system.
Not a bad idea. But none of us are sick. Some people are brainwashed beyond all logic.
You were packing the sword of truth, and slayed those dragons of lies!! Good on ya OP!!....
Try it with any libtard. They have no answers
This has been my method with the most success as well. Just ask them questions and it's like you're jump starting their brain. Doesn't always work but it's the least confrontational way to open eyes and if they lose their cool it just proves
Nice quote.
Yep 100%. Stay calm and collected. Then when they start going into reee mode, point out their aggression."with you getting so angry, I think this cult thing may be unhealthy for your mental health".
Good quote.
All of the ones in my life have basically been stunned into total denial and/or silence. Going to a party tonight. This should be interesting. A few libs I know in the crowd I only see once every few years.
That's an easy one. Just shame them. "What are you doing at a party? Don't you know there's a pandemic? You're selfish"
They really knew what they were doing calling it project mockingbird. These little mockingbirds repeating everything questioning nothing.
Any well informed moral conservative can beat any liberal on pretty much any subject. They don't know anything - they don't even know history. And that includes liberals who are actual historians. When it comes to politics they have a dead zone.
I'm glad you stayed strong, for both you and your kids!
I cut her off from the kids cause she's childless and our kids are like her own in her eyes. She truly loves them but now she will feel the pain of being cut off like we are from society for believing in something
Love = injecting them with poison?
Lol to libtards yes
You could show HER a bit of love in return, and send her one of those nice t-shirts that say "ALL OF THE LAB ANIMALS DIED" :P
good for you on attacking her in an area that she should be better prepared then you are... dont cut off family unless they make the situation to tense to deal with....most of what's being done right now has the aim of having us at each others throats.... corvid is more dangerous in the social aspect of society turning us all against each other.
She's a doctor???
Family physician. She's also an idiot.
Just does what she's told, never questions, zero curiosity, and please don't put anything in context.
That’s the training paradigm for sure.
When you realize a Pharmacist literally is 10 times more knowledgeable about your health you can see where Rockefeller Medicine comes in - and pharmacists just want to make sure your prescriptions don’t immediately kill you so you can keep coming back.
I come across a ton of red piled pharmacists that advise people not to fill and to instead take another remedy. They tell this “this is cheaper and works just as well” which is essentially never ever a lie, too
So true. Am a nurse, work with a bunch of doctors who are just idiots. One track mind of whatever their specialty is and don’t care about the person. I actually witnessed an infectious disease doctor yesterday, tell a concerned wife asking questions about patient’s disease process, “you’ll have to ask someone else, I’m only good for figuring out which antibiotic to give.” WOW. Meanwhile my uncle who is a pharmacist, Born again Christian, prepper, un-vaxxed and is the most based person I know.
Spot on / you are so blessed to have that uncle.
The Dr Chickensratch-on-LSD handwriting should be enough to make anyone weary. It’s like deep down their soul is saying “don’t write any of this incriminating anything down…”
Sell devices in the OR...I've seen surgeons I would not let operate on a dog that bit me...
still trust the [ medical cabal ] .../? if there is a next time u see her, ask if she was " hooded " at graduation from med school ...
I love this post. Its nice to know In not alone. My daughter in law is a new physician. She too is a complete idiot. Not a real doctor at all. Just follows all the ama, fda, and cdc guidelines for ALL patients. A fuking robot can do her job. Total libtard commie trash. Infected my son with that communist ideology.
I personally know multiple well respected doctors. They can’t balance their own damn check book or figure out how to book a trip on their own but they can do some of the most complicated surgeries on your heart/brain.
Skilled/educated doesn’t always mean brilliant.
🤡🌎
similar position with my family, its like theyre refusing to actually think and use logic
You did not go far enough. Her being a physician should know that unvaxinated cannot create variants. Variants are created with mass vaccinations. If she doesnt know that she should not be a doctor. You didnt mention how many are dying or crippled for life with the vaccine. You didnt mention it was a bio weapon. WTF you had the opportunity and should have gone way further.
The reason why I didn't bother with the first point you mentioned was because she would respond with "aLl vAcxiNes hAve sIde EffEctS". And if I had gone bioweapon, that people like us are aware of, she would have called me a conspiracy theorist. I stumped her through logic and numbers.
Your questions were excellent and a physician ought to be able to answer them. It's shocking she was stumped on so many. Sadly she probably won't remember any long enough to get the idea even accidently, let alone through curiosity.
I think I planted a seed. It's basic math and I didn't even really dive deep into the missing stats and lack of transparency. She'll be back with questions.
Once they get curious, they can see for themselves. The problem seems to be getting them to question the narrative.. Good luck.
I agree! The VAERS numbers bear you out! I'm hopeful she will be back with questions and that she will see the light on this.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=0EA814B248CD05515D8F046ED42F
inquimous and I agree that the questions are excellent, as well.
You did great.Other commenters are correct. This is her trade and she is not doing well at it. She should question and know some of these things
Would it really have made a difference with this woman? She was already lost after OPs first question.
Its nuts just how deeply even doctors are indoctrinated. "Well the journal article said it was good!!!??" Well golly gee now who can argue with that?
List 3 of your recent accomplishments in detail, specifically why your actions led to the accomplishment, and then we'll take turns telling you why you didn't go far enough.
Beta.
What do you call the person that graduated at the BOTTOM of their class in Medical School?
Doctor. Just because they are one, doesn’t mean they’re the brightest. 😬
Dang. Well done O.P. 🎤 drop
AAAAAAAAAWESOME....keep it up....your info you shared with her...as well as her lack of answers WAS THE PERFECT TEE-UP for the "good riddance" dictate....STAY STRONG and thanks for "sharing"....
Always, fren. Glad I could share
“Ummm, duh, ummm. Well, I’m smart because I’m a Dr, and you’re dumb because you’re not, and so you have to listen to me because I’m right even though I don’t have an answer for any of your questions! And it’s your fault because you’re not supposed to have questions because I’m the smart one!”
Precisely
I pictured you doing the Trump gif after each one of her answers. “Wrong”.
Hahah wish I had that life sized gif
She's not even half as bad I reckon
She really sounds like a moron.
You have no idea
Hey, look at it this way, at least you just have to deal with one, and have the entire rest of the family to lean on to, it would be way worse the other way around.
trust me.. I know... I still don't know how I managed to maintain sane, I'm the only one who sees truth..
Well played fren. Seriously well played. These people are fucking retarded.
I would leave a door open for meeting in a Zoom call, or for e-mail, or text messages. And if you have any mutual friends who are based and in the medical profession, I would encourage you to tag their info and send it to her. Don't give up on her, but don't cave on the children issue. I definitely would not let her watch any of my children alone for even a New York minute.
She loves our kids and that's why I cut her off. She needs to feel what it's like to be cut off like her bosses and tyrant friends are doing
I understand the idea of being concerned she'll show the kids her 'love' by getting them vaccinated, especially since she's already pressuring you to be vaccinated while showing ignorance of the very real risks involved. And as a physician, she ought to be more concerned with the potential risks of a vaccine that was rushed. She doesn't seem to have a full on god-complex, but considering you an anti - vaxxer is an issue. Whether your children are vaxxed or not is your (and your spouse's, if you are married) business alone. I stand by my statement though: You can have a family Zoom call, e-mail or text message- but no contact with the kids, even in these formats, without your supervision!
Maybe if she's somewhat openminded, I would share this somewhat wise advice: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507587-covid19-vaccine-safe-coronavirus/) I would also wait for her to contact you and have some rules ready for how you will handle contact from her. What would she need to say to clear the air enough for you to be open to her communicating with you? (Or agree to , maybe even in writing)
Leave her alone w them she might show her love w jab
She knows what would happen if she did that.
It doesn't matter what happens to her (although I find your aggressive/threatening tone concerning).
You have one job: PROTECT THE CHILDREN
Not punish people that you have allowed to harm them.
You're a sweet kid
Someone tells you to take poison, then burn that bridge. Don't be nice about it, no matter their intentions.
I feel you Fren, talking to rocks and expecting an intelligent conversation is getting too exhausting.
One of the last one's i'll do. Unless she comes back and begins telling me things I don't have access to wanting to be redpilled.
At least she said "I don't know."
I have terrible difficulty getting any liberal to admit any kind of ignorance on their part.
She's not full blown libtard. Just a dumb ass who got indoctrinated at med school and university
Ditto
If the vax works why do the unvaxxed have to be excluded from society?
Better question. If the "vaccine" works, why do the "vaccinated" have to wear masks in places where the "unvaccinated" aren't allowed? So far, the only thing they can do is enter buildings that we can't lol
Just stop talking about politics with family. When my braindead liberal uncle comes to visit with my cousin, we just agree to not talk politics during the visit.
It's very simple.
Not worth falling out with family over.
It was worth it. This time, it was worth it.
Man, your brother must be blind/deaf/dumb too. How could someone live in the same household as that?
That’s absolutely brutal to deal with when talking about family. My next weekend will likely look similar and I plan to ask the same questions.
This part stands out: "Her: unvaccinated are spreading and causing mutation"
This is a fundamental lack of understanding of basic epidemiology. Mutations occur naturally and those mutations flourish when medication isn't killing every strain. And we already have substantial data that it's the vaccinated that are carrying significantly higher viral loads. In many cases they're literally superspreaders.
The phrase "leaky vaccine" has become part of our lexicon. A leaky vaccine is not substantively different from what humans have caused with bacteria and our overuse of protein-specific antibacterial soaps and not taking the full run of prescribed antibiotics. There's a good reason when your doctor or vet tells you to make sure you take the entire run of antibiotics they've prescribed for you or your pet. Resistant bacteria survive and then become the majority when only a partial dose is taken.
This twat should have her medical license revoked and sent back to pre-med. Fear and television have cooked her brain.
More than ever, I've come to realize doctors are not particularly bright. They work very hard to memorize and regurgitate, but not an original idea in most.
Physicians don't seem to know much outside of the protocols of their specialty. They're just as confused and illogical as anyone else.
Bravo!
Their answers are always “I don’t know but vaccine good, covid bad”
So over these people.
Excellent.
Kicked her right in the cult puss...nice work!
There's a lot of great questions there, ones that should have easy answers if the vaccine narrative was legitimate. Another one I like to ask is, Why did some people say, "I'm not taking that shot just because DJT says it's safe," notably the current fake VP. However, now that the current regime recommends it, the same people lined right up and got it. It's the same vaccine, so what's different now? Also, has the FDA approved it's use yet, other than the EUA? The answers you get might as well come out of Brian Stelter's mouth
Those are great logic questions lol. I have actually tried to get these answers from different doctors and none of them are able to provide one.
Hell yeah !