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I Shut My Vax-Pushing Dr. Up! ℹ️ ⚔️ Info Warfare ⚔️ ℹ️
posted ago by NOT_ADMIN ago by NOT_ADMIN +562 / -0
  • I went in for a yearly checkup with my doctor.

  • Me: I caught covid about a month ago

  • Dr. did you get a PCR test when you had symptoms?

  • Me: No.

  • Dr. Then how would you know you had covid.

  • Me: I was around someone with covid, I then had the same symptoms of covid such as loss of smell and taste.

  • Dr.: You should get the vaccine then.

  • Me: I have natural immunity now, I no longer need the vax.

  • Dr: The vaccine is better than natural immunity.

  • Me: Explain to me, biologically - how you could claim any vaccine could produce a stronger immune system than the virus itself.

  • Dr.: ...

  • Me: Even a perfect vaccine could only produce an immune response equal to the virus with the hope that the vaccine would have less risk associated than catching the virus.

  • Dr. You should still get the vaccine because we don't know how many antibodies your body produced, if you get the vaccine your body can then produce more antibodies to protect you from covid.

  • Me: 🔥 Now that I have natural immunity, I am much less likely to get bad symptoms from covid (just like the vaccine claims to do) if I catch it again. 🔥

  • Dr.: ...

  • Me: 🔥 This means there isn't really any benefit to getting the vaccine versus just waiting to get the virus again, there is actually now an added risk of getting a side-effect from the vaccine.🔥

  • Dr.: But you might not have even had covid.

  • Me: Well then give me an antibody test for covid.

  • Dr.: Well the antibody tests aren't as accurate as the PCR tests are. Antibody tests arent determinative if you have covid, PCR tests are.

  • Me.: The PCR tests are not accurate and should not be used to diagnose covid.

  • Dr.: ... Okay we can do the antibody test.

  • Test comes back positive.

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Benitosuavee1 115 points ago +115 / -0

It’s very frustrating talking to doctors about not wanting the vaccine. It’s worse when you realize they have done zero research and aren’t capable of independent thought.

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BasedInFact 53 points ago +53 / -0

It's like talking to a car salesman. That's all they do - sell cars. For one brand. And so many have no clue about the cars they're selling.

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ChronicMetamorphosis 9 points ago +9 / -0

Astute analogy.

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y000danon 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yes. MDs, when you understand what they actually learn, cease to be impressive.

%90 of them don’t do shit but read from a script to write a “script”.

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Phishhed44 4 points ago +4 / -0

I like that ☝🏼

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MuckeyDuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

True, follow the matrix, you have this, and this symptom, follow the line over to drug x. We don't have a healthcare system, we have a system that manages sickness.

Think about the psychiatrist, or as the are called today, mental health professionals. They are the biggest dope dealers on the planet.

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y000danon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. If the system wasn’t rigged OxyContin would have never happened.

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Cpleb 6 points ago +6 / -0

One minor flaw...the car salesman at least knows they’re selling you crap ...

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BasedInFact 3 points ago +3 / -0

What are you buying? Every new car I’ve bought (4) has been really good.

Doctors spend decades in training and certainly have keen awareness they are now peddling death and lies.

So car salesmen get no love, including from me, but they’re coming out way ahead of the widely-crooked medical profession by my count.

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y000danon 1 point ago +1 / -0

#nailedit

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SeeAreJay 22 points ago +22 / -0

C's get Degrees. These people are narrow minded to the point of blindness

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nobilisbellum 20 points ago +20 / -0

Doctors are just highly paid bureaucrats

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polish_snausage 18 points ago +18 / -0

They are Highly indoctrinated and heavily in debt ... makes them easy to manipulate. The residency period they go through is very MK Ultra-like.

The ones that got in for the $$ are completely owned.

The ones that got in it to help people are a Huge blessing, they are the ones Rising Up now

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OGpat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Spot on.

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polish_snausage 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or killed. They would rather you die to increase their non-jabbed numbers.

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GA-Peach-Patriot 10 points ago +10 / -0

Doctors are just highly paid bureaucrats

I hesitate to lump all doctors into this category the same way I hesitate to lump all teachers into CRT generators. Nearly 15 years ago my dad was diagnosed with a terminal brain tumor and told to get his affairs in order. Presently, my dad is alive, well, and cancer-free. A very good doctor saved his life.

I get what you're saying though and generally avoid all things medical like the plague.

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101flyingpig 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you. I know great doctors and I was a great teacher. It is so good to not be constantly blamed or accused. Teachers like me are part of the answer.

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GA-Peach-Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

As a fellow educator, (retired), it is so nice to be in the company of great teachers. I'd like to think I had a hand in molding more than a few lives for the better over the last 30 years. We are not all lost. God bless, fren.

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nobilisbellum 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair point. I was generalizing, but there are, of course, some good doctors just like there may be some good bureaucrats out there somewhere. They got fooled and sucked into the system. They didn’t start like that.

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Cpleb 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s a fair assessment. I think it’s just a reflection of how close minded people are as a whole. Not just doctors. But doctors are highlighted bc we have a “medical” situation right now.

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MuckeyDuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

I 1976 I was in a head-on collision. Broke my hip in 10 places. I had a great Orthopedic surgeon who put me back together with one well placed rod that pulled all my bones back into place. With a lessor doctor, I would be crippled for life.

I remember once going on a follow visit. He took xrays. Then when he came in to view the xrays, I remember him standing there, just staring at the xray, and saying out loud, almost like he forgot I was in the room, "Damn I did a good job." He told me that when he showed his peers what he had done, they told him it was impossible. He was very proud of the job he did on me.

He had long retired, but I called him a few times just to thank him for for what he did for me.

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queue-anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

What did the doctor do to save his life?

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GA-Peach-Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well he was a "third opinion" surgeon who said he could remove the tumor from a location in the brain that the previous two had said was not possible. I guess at that point my dad figured he had nothing to lose by putting his trust in door number three. He underwent the surgery for a successful removal of the tumor. The other 2 docs weren't even willing to try. The body is a miracle machine blessed to us by the grace of God. But this doctor gave me more time with my dad and I am forever grateful.

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AngelArmy0980 4 points ago +4 / -0

No they are grifters for Big Pharma.

They are no longer doctors and we need to stop treating them as such.

They have been taught in their indoctrination centers, how to THINK about scientific matters. They are not taught ABOUT scientific matters..

This is why they can cure no disease and are only capable of treating symptoms, because that’s all big pharma allows them to think about..

They are getting paid 90 dollars to administer vaccines. They can make 1500-2500 per hour just administering vaccines..

They don’t even administer the vaccine. The nurse or MA does…

They are grifters and they have no special knowledge, just a Rx pad.. that’s all that makes them useful..

I say this based on experience. They murdered my mother-she had cancer..

Incompetent morons.

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ChronicMetamorphosis 2 points ago +2 / -0

they are getting paid 90 dollars to administer vaccines. They can make 1500-2500 per hour just administering vaccines..

Do you have a good source for the $90 info? This is a good red pill for someone I know.

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AngelArmy0980 1 point ago +1 / -0

I will try to find the article..

I’m sorry..

I read a lot of stuff.

Should have saved it..

But I’ll find it. It’s now my mission!

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MuckeyDuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

From what I show, Medicare only pays out $40.00 for administering each dose.

That's what Medicare pays. Like the eyeglasses that are advertised for 79.99 that always end up being $300.00 or more.

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MuckeyDuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here is where you probably saw the $90.00 info. But it's AUS not USA.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/meanwhile-in-australia/

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y000danon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Makes sense. There is a reason even grocery stores want to admin them. Pretty soon there will prob be vaccination door to door “salesmen”

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ghostclown 8 points ago +8 / -0

Doctors and Lawyers and other such professions are rewarded by this crappy system we live in. They aren't going to rock the boat.

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Wtf_socialismreally 4 points ago +4 / -0

My physician decided to be afraid as fuck of COVID-19 and basically refused to see people more than one day a week.

I'll go back to him when this all blows over and see how he feels.

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Wtf_socialismreally 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hm, I'm not so sure that's true. It depends. I don't proclaim to know everything about every ailment and how to treat them.

I do know that for certain things, they are misled and are totally politicized though

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Infidel440 59 points ago +59 / -0

I recently had to do a phone appointment with my VA appointed doctor. She asked me a bunch of medical questions and then got on the vax. I had to school her in opposition to the BS she thought she knew. I had her speechless at one point and then she said in exasperation “Well, it sounds like you don’t really need a doctor then?” I replied, “No, I really don’t and the only reason we’re having this conversation is because it’s required to have an appointment with you on an annual basis to keep my VA benefits”

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ATLAS_ONE 28 points ago +28 / -0

The entire medical profession is built on a mountain of government regulation designed to provide doctors with the greatest return for minimal work. Just a bunch of box ticking sheep that are trained to toe the line rather than to provide medical care.

The amount of times I've had to see a doctor about a condition I already diagnosed myself just to get a prescription is staggering. They say its under the guise of public safety, but really a bunch of doctors got together and used state power to ensure you have to pay them $100 to get permission to buy a $5 drug.

And don't get me started on specialized medicine. I've experienced horrible appointments that I have complained about and refused to pay for. Their response? "We'll just bulk bill it". Which in Australia means they will just charge Medicare and not charge you any excess. So they still get paid with borderline Medicare fraud.

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MuckeyDuck 16 points ago +16 / -0

Sad but true, box ticking sheep. But it was not always like that, as you know.

My doctor when I was a kid, was a real doctor. He would put his two fingers on your chest, tap them and listen to the sound with a stethoscope. He would look at your tongue, finger nails, eyes, in your ears, check your reflex, do all those kind of diagnostic things. I heard stories of big city doctors that could not find out what was wrong with someone, and yet he was able to make the determination.

He was also a good friend of the family. I grew up right across from the little three room doctors office, so any time I had an issue, I just walked across the street.

Unfortunately, he took up with this woman that shot and killed him.

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MuckeyDuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

If this happened to my son, or wife, lord help the son of a bitch that did it.

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

My childhood Dr had a full blown medical office adjacent to the medical library in his home. No Nurses. The few vaccines I got given right there (mid 60’s). When I came down with Mumps he came to our home each day until I was better, carrying his little black bag. 30 miles North of Boston, in Stoneham Mass.

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MuckeyDuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

Those old timely doctors understood medicine, and how things worked, and cared about their patients.

I am the youngest of five, born 66 years ago today, and the same doctor, not this one though, one across the stateline in Ga, brought all five of us into the world.

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Phishhed44 3 points ago +3 / -0

HAPPY BIRTHDAY 🎉🎊 PATRIOT!!! 💕

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MuckeyDuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks much.

Something I've remembered since probably 15:

Age does not depend upon the amount of accumulated birthdays, yet the elasticity of our spirit, and the vigor of our mind.

If we've left our dreams behind, and hope is cold
If we cease to look ahead, if our ambitions fires are dead
Then we are old.

But, if in life we take the best
And if in life we keep the just, and still hold love
Then no matter how the years go by
No matter how the birthdays fly
We are not old.

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

I love that Fren...saved 💕🙏

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Michelleobamasnuts 7 points ago +7 / -0

This. I realized it was all a sham when I was 12, sick with strep throat for the second time two months apart, yet they still needed to shove a swab in the back of my throat to confirm it was strep. My testimony, the visual state of my throat, and high fever weren’t enough confirmation. I tried to fight it, questioned it, but was told I either had to have the test done or go home. Being 12 and with added pressure from my mom, I succumbed. Test normally took 10 mins for a result, but the doctor was back in less than 5 because my strep was so severe it was already turning positive. This made me start questioning whether or not I even needed their medication to “cure” strep and I’ve been chasing red pills ever since…

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

Thats absolutely awesome.

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Trumpette2020 13 points ago +13 / -0

This is so accurate with the VA! Doctors hate how they wasted tons of time and money for us to end up schooling them. Oh the irony

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polish_snausage 3 points ago +3 / -0

My regular doctor got all pissy and passive aggressive after I told her I was seeing a Functional Doctor... like I was cheating on her. Very weird.

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GaIIowBoob 3 points ago +3 / -0

Functional medicine has some odd opposition. Doctors are mostly sub specialized, the idea of a total view approach might threaten a few small minds.

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Wtf_socialismreally 2 points ago +2 / -0

It minimizes their efficacy, it makes them think you doubt their knowledge/skill and for some the fact that you aren't spending money with them is upsetting.

Makes sense I guess.

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polish_snausage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well we did break up... I'm not going back- she's a vax pusher

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Pqbqcq 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm looking for a cost effective way to get labs and want to use the Functional Medicine approach also. We have a Chiropractic Dr. But she does not offer this service.

Do you know any group who can do functional tests online and interpret the results? Their is one Functional in my town but cost is over $1k....There are a lot of online lab test places just looking for a good one.

It would be awesome if Americas Frontline Dr.s could offer this! We used them to get 2 scripts HCQ!

Thanks in advance.....WWG1WGA

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paperairplanes 2 points ago +2 / -0

I used Canaryclub.org about 7-8 years ago and they were good. I remember getting comprehensive results. They do saliva tests for hormones and neurotransmitters.

If you're allowed to order blood tests without a requisition in your state you can also order the ones you're interested in and just google the results. There are a lot of websites that have good information, its all in how you search.

I find the paleo, keto, and carnivore communities the most helpful. As terrible as Reddit is, if you ask for help with this on the zerocarb and carnivore forums you'll get very helpful replies. You can also just do a search on those forums or on the keto forum and find plenty of info. I personally don't like the keto community as much, but it can be helpful for straight-up info.

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Pqbqcq 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank u/paperairplanes I will check them out and appreciate your detailed experience!!

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ImBillCurtis 45 points ago +45 / -0

You should still get the vaccine because we don't know how many antibodies your body produced, if you get the vaccine your body can then produce more antibodies to protect you from covid.>

Get a new doctor immediately. This one is insanely incompetent and doesn’t understand freshman level immunology.

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ImBillCurtis 20 points ago +20 / -0

Your memory B cells and CD4/8 T cells are what matters here. Antibodies don’t matter for shit.

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MuckeyDuck 17 points ago +17 / -0

This is good article is from Sept 12, I just read through it.

It goes into some detail about how, and why the vaccine is shutting down our immune system. It is the first article that actually shows the mRNA code and how it was modified to keep the vaccine from being destroyed when injected, and suggest the designers should have considered the question:

"but what would be the consequences of switching off that important early warning system?"

It also goes on the talking about the reason we are beginning to see cancers that were in remissions killing people.

Summary:

Summary

Changes to key parts of the mRNA code in SARS-CoV-2 vaccines may be causal in changing the innate immune response via toll-like receptors. Toll-like receptors are important components in defence against infection and downstream effects may also include inhibition of CD8 T cell response. CD8 is a vital part of the immune system’s ability to eradicate infection and cancer. Those changes may be reflected in recent reactivated Varicella Zoster infections although specific mechanisms are unclear at the moment. Anecdotal reports of significant uptick in cancer presenting to medical consultants may be consistent with aberrant toll-like receptor and dendritic cell changes leading to an inhibition of the anti-cancer CD8 effector response. Further data are required but the prospect of an altered CD8 response to infection and cancer is very concerning and should prompt urgent investigation.

One might be forgiven for asking: surely someone must have cautioned against doing that? And isn’t that why new drug/vaccine products are supposed to be thoroughly tested before they are given to large populations?

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ImBillCurtis 8 points ago +8 / -0

Thanks for this. I’ll look into it in the AM. I stoped reading covid stuff when the vaccines became a bigger issue. Much appreciated

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rooftoptendie 6 points ago +7 / -1

yo, I just perused your post history, so I wanted to ask you: Out of all the doctor clips and science-people interviews you've seen about rona or vaxxes... what doctors have you noticed DO know what they're talking about completely... and what doctors might be full of shit or somewhat full of shit?

Youre in a better position than most to discern the 'truthiness' of a med-type when you hear them talk, I would imagine.

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ImBillCurtis 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sure.

  1. Mike Yeadon - I trust him first and foremost. You don't work in pharma/biotech for this long and throw away your entire career unless you've seen some things that you know are abhorrent. The way he speaks about other R&D scientists, the FDA, and companies tells me he has a lot of experience and reached the same conclusions I do.

  2. Bret Weinstein - (believe it or not). He talks about, and does a good job dancing around, some of the oddities of COVID going back to Feb/March 2020. He initially pointed out the codon issue furin cleavage site on the spike protein. (TLDR: this is a statistical indicator it was modified in the lab). Seeing how batshit scared and hesitant he became when talking about the vax issues on his Darkhorse podcast and to Joe Rogan, he knows what's up.

  3. Pretty much everyone at Americas Frontline Doctors: Simone Gold, Pierre Kory, Stella Immanuel. Simone Gold referenced an article published in Lancet that was used as proof that HCQ was ineffective. I looked up the articles she mentioned in both her symposium. She wasn't lying

As far as MDs, they're about 10% hit, 90% miss. If they mention using steroids or NSAIDs for treatment of COVID, you should run. Any MD should be presenting evidence like a scientist, not a school teacher. If don't understand it, look it up and train yourself to understand as much as possible. So if they talk down to you, find a new one.

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rooftoptendie 3 points ago +3 / -0

this is so awesome, thank you kind fren!!

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TDWRefuge 5 points ago +5 / -0

Anyone remember the Anon from this board that posted about a family member/friend dying from cancer after taking the vaccine? This explains a lot

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ImBillCurtis 3 points ago +3 / -0

You may have inadvertently stepped into a rabbit hole here: Acknowledgments This work was supported by National Institutes of Health grants AI060505, AI50484, and DE14825. Hello NIH and Bayhe-Dole Act

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MuckeyDuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't understand much about the Bayhe-Dole Act from what I've just read.

One thing that struck me was this statement: “asserts that university research is ‘skewed’ toward marketable products and not basic research”

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah I’m not too familiar either but I was fixated on the author of your article and the number of patents tied to his name.. and the suspicious relationship to Moderna. Look how long ago his research was.

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MuckeyDuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

Look how long ago his research was.

Does research results on targets that do not change over time have a shelf life.

I have an encyclopedia set from the 1800's. I can look up information on the chemical element Iron, and the 1800's information is still valid. It's still atomic number 26 after all these years.

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

A lot of these patents go back to 2006 for the exogenous mRNA research.. sounds a lot like our own government had a vested interest in this...

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Thanks for the advice, yup already looking lol.

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ImBillCurtis 12 points ago +12 / -0

I’m not a doctor. Just have a BS in biochem and work in pharma. But your doctor should be able to explain this off the tip of their tongue.

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queue-anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

They only know what drugs to give out for certain symptoms. That's about all most know. They irritate me to no end. 90% of the time I know more than the doctor just based on me doing research before I go in.

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

My experience, too. I've been really lucky and found doctors (that I expected to prescribe some expensive drugs) push anti-inflammation and holistic medicines. Not just GPs, but ENTs/dermatologists.

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queue-anon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice, i wish i could find those. insurance wont' cover holistic doctors.

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ImBillCurtis 2 points ago +2 / -0

You may want to price a few out. It might be worth it, and even cheaper in the longrun.

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impera 3 points ago +3 / -0

100% concur. The meta around this conversation is that the doctor is shitty and you should try and find better. Why take advice from people who are far less well informed than yourself?

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crystaliis 20 points ago +21 / -1

An educated populace is a powerful weapon.

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JackieDaytona74 17 points ago +17 / -0

If there's one thing I've learned from the Corona Virus plandemic, it's that there's a shitload of quacks out there.

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McSimply 9 points ago +9 / -0

And many of them are wearing white coats or scrubs.

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InmatesRunTheAsylum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maybe more spineless than anything else.

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JackieDaytona74 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh there's plenty of that to be sure. But I think we've all been guilty at times (myself included) of far overestimating the medical and general cognitive abilities of the doctor's we place our trust in.

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InmatesRunTheAsylum 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've experienced that first hand more times than I care to admit.

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metapriest 11 points ago +11 / -0

Would be good if someone put together a short authoritative (scientific papers) document that we could print out and hand to doctors.

Maybe also include the Nuremberg Code and the Hippocratic Oath at the end.

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Quixotic 9 points ago +9 / -0

And don’t forget. Most people develop immunity without developing antibodies.

Antibodies are something your immune system only develops if it deems something enough of a threat to reserve critical real estate in your immune system.

If your immune system made antibodies for every threat, your blood vessels would explode. There wouldn’t be any room for red blood cells.

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Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is almost exactly how it went at my physical in August. It was like pulling teeth to get him to write orders for antibodies test so it would be covered by my insurance.

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CarrieDodson17 6 points ago +6 / -0

$$$Follow the$$$

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ChazzleDazzle 7 points ago +7 / -0

Frauds in white coats

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Pharmaceutical drug pushers

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Dashmoomoo 9 points ago +9 / -0

Monsters in lab caots*

Fixed that for ya. They are complicit. #rope

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Dashmoomoo 8 points ago +8 / -0

Argh typos!

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nothingberg 6 points ago +6 / -0

We need to start calling MDs and finding which ones are basically red pilled and not morons

we need a network of functional, non-lemming-shill-fraud MDs

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Patriot_Perks 2 points ago +2 / -0

The ones that don’t accept insurance are far more likely to be open minded.

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101flyingpig 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't forget nurse practitoners. My husband's NP is ex-military. We love him. Not a vaccine pusher. Made arrangements with local pharmacy to get enough ivermectin for his patients. He gave him a prescription for ivermectin just in case he gets it again.

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Cabal-Bot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I actually was thinking to do research on a couple that are ‘in network’ for me. Both me & my husband need new primaries- both have retired. I would love to see what they post on social media- were they Trump haters? That’s a red flag lol

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Qanaut 5 points ago +5 / -0

Great write up!

This should give a few folks around here a good script to go by when they go see their doctors for their checkups this fall.

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Dragonwarlord 5 points ago +5 / -0

What do you call someone who graduates at the bottom of their class in medical school?

Doctor.

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Cabal-Bot 4 points ago +4 / -0

I remember years ago my daughter had mono - it had been going around school and some of her friends. She had symptoms so I took her to the doctor & they did a rapid test and said it’s negative. I asked if they could do a blood test and they said no. Two weeks later she breaks out in a rash- I look it up and sure enough it can be one of the signs of mono left untreated. I call up the doctors office and tell them. They say a rash isn’t a symptom- I said yes it is!! Not a typical one but it is- look it up. I said do the damn blood test! They were reluctant- I said why won’t you just do the damn blood test- what is the big deal? They reluctantly did it- called me 2 days later- yep -she has mono. These medical professionals think they know all or what’s best. This is why when you get a major diagnosis to always always always get a second & third opinion before agreeing to any surgery or course of treatment. And make sure those opinions are not all friends.

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biblegirl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Making sure the opinions are not all friends. This is so true. My mom just experienced this and point blank asked her nurse “do you really think if I go to X after going to Y, that they will contradict their friend?” and the nurse said “you have a point.”

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Graceunderfire 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. It's a species level tragedy and we are fucked if this isnt addressed.

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GenPattonT 4 points ago +4 / -0

Great story🩸. Can I use it with my Dr? Thank you

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes! Are you coming up for an appointment soon?

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GenPattonT 5 points ago +5 / -0

Had one. Dr said we were in great health at our yearly physical 9/24/21. Husbands job because of DOD Contracts must have all employees vaxxed. We called our Dr Friday for exemption. She said we should have been vaxxed months ago due to our age 67,69 because we are at high risk. Going to try talking to her again.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

PM me

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GenPattonT 1 point ago +1 / -0

How?

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Greekish 1 point ago +1 / -0

Click on his name. Then, under the right-hand column banner [About NOT_ADMIN] you should see "send a message".

(This is for a laptop. I don't own a smartphone.)

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Patriot_Perks 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you can find a concierge doctor, they’re far more likely to get it.

It will cost you, but it will be worth it.

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KarateBob 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't give a shit if I have antibodies or not.

I'm not afraid of diseases pushed by the MSM.

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400DollarHandcart 3 points ago +3 / -0

Should have told him to fuck right off. Listen to my heart, check my blood, and refill my blood pressure meds and I’ll see you next time.

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DCGRITS 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unfortunately they are getting kickbacks from vaccines just like they do the medications they prescribe. They are no longer concern about taking care of their patients but rather taking care of their pockets.

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CMAnon 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is not an unusual interaction with a doctor. In fact, it is typical. Those of us who have been following the science know more about Covid than most physicians. We are much more aware of the vaccine side effects and the superior natural immunity most of us have from getting Covid, even mild cases. These doctors do as they are told without thinking. They read the headlines in medical journals who get the majority of their funding from big pharma and never question anything. These are the people we entrust with our lives. In many ways they are simply an extension of Pfizer, J&J, etc. and don't even know it.

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ditzee58 3 points ago +3 / -0

The PCR tests will end in December. This is according to the CDC. Cannot believe your doc would still be pushing this test. Apparently, he isn't keeping up with the latest information.

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SherryLusk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Is your doctor just brain dead, or is he getting some kind of kickback to push this nonsense.

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Analophigus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good!! Now fire him and stay the hell out of the hospital.

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Vlad_The_Impaler 3 points ago +3 / -0

Your doctor sounds like a fucking idiot.

Get a new doctor.

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blacksmith21 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sounds like it’s time for a new Doc.

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ChronPaul420 2 points ago +2 / -0

Luckily I witnessed cancer/chemo ravage a man who literally looked like a Gollum like skinny shell of a man he used to be….truly horrifying to see at 12, but my Mom cured herself from cancer and if I ever get that shit it’s Gerson Therapy and high dose TCH oil aka (RSO) (Latest studies from Israel show thc kills cancer cells) - Chemo is worse then Cancer

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can verify☝🏼 RSO & CBD CAN cure many of (some) cancers. ALL cancers tho...still awaiting proof of that(?). I made my own RSO and utilized it along with several other treatment protocols.

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ChronPaul420 2 points ago +2 / -0

Amen! RSO and the Gerson Therapy are my go to for cancer

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Phishhed44 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gerson works. There’s several therapies now and majority are old knowledge come-back to the fore. New ones too thanks to covid...possibly the only positive thing to result from Chyna-virus.

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TennDenise 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think all the Frontier Doctors and Nurses need to form their own hospitals throughout the country so that "we the people" who have been blessed with "common sense" have a place we can go to for medical care without being harrassed, interrogated and put on a list! I pray each day that I stay healthy enough to get thru all this BS without requiring a hospital (or doctors) visit.

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Kelcius 2 points ago +2 / -0

How many doctors do we actually know who are not on board with this covid vaccine garbage? Seems like 98% of them are all in it

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ChronPaul420 1 point ago +1 / -0

They have always been pharmacy shills

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Eph612 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yay! You won that argument hands down! Hubby and I both recently saw our Dr in separate appointments and I was astonished that the subject of the vax, or even COVID, never came up with either of us. I even have a vague recollection of her agreeing with me when I said something about still having to wear these damn masks. I think we may actually have found a Dr who’s not buying into the BS.

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agent1212 2 points ago +2 / -0

instead of this lip wiggling, just ask if he would bet his life that the vaccine is safe and effective, make him sign a paper stating so, if not, why should you bet yours?

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Mountaing8 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Dr is a liar or stupid. PCR tests are not specific for COVID at all. That fact has been all over the place.

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nothingberg 2 points ago +2 / -0

You shouldn't use that doctor again. Find another doctor and show them this and then if they laugh and agree with you, then THAT is your new doctor.

You have no more time left to suffer fools

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Surfsup 2 points ago +2 / -0

My God, get a different doctor. What a sad fuck, that guy. He/she should lose his/her license for even CLAIMING a vaccine is better than your immune system!

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Camden105b 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, and this is just ONE of many subjects that they have been taught wrong for decades! Another is cholesterol and thyroid.

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Jkshaffe 1 point ago +1 / -0

My mom was going through Chemo and she woke up one morning incoherent. I took her to the doctor that day and the nurse checked with the doctor and he said she was just tired and to just go home and take a nap. She died that night from septic shock syndrome. She had an infection from the hospital when getting her shunt. Doctor was an ass before and after. My sister happened to meet the nurse, years later at a school my sister taught at and they struck up a conversation. The woman was the nurse that had told my mom to go home and take a nap. She quit after that from her guilt but the doctor was a jerk and had no guilt. Doctor didn't care if she lived or died. He had such a bad attitude with no empathy and shouldnt have been a Doctor.

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Island_Photo 1 point ago +1 / -0

These days doctors are trained, not educated.. I think i would rather take my chances with a veterinarian (who has had to develop an understanding of the digestive, respiratory, circulatory, immuno-response systems of several species) than with the current crop of prescription writers... Oh for the days of the country doctor who was more well rounded!

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Joys1Daughter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well played fren!

Get a new doctor immediately. Search for a Naturopath or Doctor of Osteopath. Blessings!

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y000danon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well played.

I am thinking this year I skip health insurance and go full off the reservation.

It’s extortion after this shit I don’t want any part of it

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FreeinFL2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Perfect dialogue.

However, everyone needs to know you do NOT need a doctors order or permission to get antibody testing. Go to Labcorp website, make sure they have a location close to you and order a test. Insurance pays

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Fikkan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your doctor is incompetent.

He may have been good enough at memorizing shit to pass med school and his hospital training, but he has displayed a stunning lack of ability to reason or think on his own.

Sounds like a walking, talking, medical malpractice waiting to happen.

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Quasar 1 point ago +1 / -0

genuine question: why should we not get a PCR test?

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BabylonNTing 1 point ago +2 / -1

Because they are using the common cold for the baseline, and ramped up cycles to ensure a positive, but decreased cycles as soon as FUbiden got into office.

The FDA recalled test because of this, but still use anyways all the way to December. Suddenly, they now have test that can differentiate between flu and cv. How convenient...

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101flyingpig 2 points ago +2 / -0

I tested twice positive when not sick. I tested negative once when I did have COVID. Worthless test.

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BabylonNTing 0 points ago +1 / -1

Not worthless to them!

Test is rigged, has a chemical on q-tip already known to cause cancer, and wouldnt doubt (just a theory of mine based on their prior evil intent) it collects DNA about a person bypassing 23 and Me all together.

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Hamiltonranch 1 point ago +1 / -0

A simple no thank you has always worked for me

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Lorenzo72 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have had several conversations with my doctors, concerning the vax. This is what I simply say, do you know what is in the vax, normally they cannot tell you. Then from being on this site for so long, I list them, then I give them my final speech. I have posted this before, you know doc the pharmaceutical companies have protection against lawsuits( unless you can prove intentional negligence), do you have enough malpractice insurance when the shit hits the fan, and your patients start to sue you, for pushing the vax? They all look at me and shut up. I will say everyone I’ve said that to, after they stop talking, you can see them thinking. As far as I concerned, job done.

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VoatAnon1984 1 point ago +1 / -0

I trust a used car salesman more that a general physician.

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Warrior_of_Virtue 1 point ago +1 / -0

You should follow up on this by telling your doctor:

  • his trying to talk you into the vaccine is highly unethical
  • his lack off knowledge is, at least, highly unprofessional
  • what he was trying to do might get him in trouble, Nuremberg-style
  • you will never go to him again
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manxom 1 point ago +1 / -0

so why do you still have this doctor in your life?

you are a patient, not a hostage.

you are a customer who can, and should, take their money to someone else. when we all do that, these people either learn to change, to shut up, or just plain leave--all of which are the things we need.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are correct, I am looking around now for another.

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manxom 1 point ago +1 / -0

excellent!

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PlatosCave 1 point ago +1 / -0

You showed that drug dealer!!

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JustSayIt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mainstream doctors are nothing more than pharmaceutical peddlers. They are just blindly following their training. Your dialog with him could be easily predicted by the dogma he was trained to follow.

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retardmonkey 1 point ago +1 / -0

I then had the same symptoms of covid such as loss of smell and taste.

This gets me every fucking time. I've only ever seen people get covid describe it as a mild inconvenience.

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ChronPaul420 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep smoked weed the entire time I had it

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TheUpsetter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most doctors just follow the protocols their hospital gives them, very few actually read research or question anything. I’ve met and known hundreds of doctors, most are no smarter than average.