I agree with you. We can't NOT go vote - otherwise we hand it to these assholes with absolutely no recourse. We must not only vote, but turn out in record numbers as never before! Also there have been MANY precincts, counties and states in general who have tightened up their voting laws tremendously, cleaned up their voter rolls, etc. and have taken steps to secure the next election, even if they haven't done anything about 2020. Not voting is giving up, and handing a victory to these scumbags. I won't be a part of that - I'm voting in every election no matter what. I can't complain about the fuckers cheating if I don't vote.
Hand them what they already took right before your eyes? All voting does now so provide an air of legitimacy. I struggle to imagine that you're not shilling.
OP did a bang up job explaining his rationale… did you even bother reading it?
It boils down to this: if we hadn’t voted in droves in 2020, we’d be screwed. The whole “election fraud isn’t real” narrative of the left would have won outright.
If we sit out 2022, they don’t even have to cheat to win - they’ll win legitimately and we’ll have zero recourse.
So, two pieces of advice:
Quit being an ignoramus
Don’t call people shills simply because they see things a different way than you do. That’s leftist tactics bullshit, and you need to be better than they are.
I read it thoroughly. How else would I recognize it for the absolute dipshit dreck that it is? Yeah, it was needed for 2020 to show absolute proof of the rigging. It is no longer needed. I don't need a second video of a murderer doing his thing before I hang him.
No one ever again wins legitimately until 2020 is fixed. We are a conquered, occupied country, and they will happily pacify you cowards with elections as long as you're willing to keep playing that game. Not me. If there is a plan, let it unfold. Otherwise, bring the pain. The quicker we bring it to a head and have it resolved, the better.
Me an ignoramus? Be glad I'm wasting my time on this retarded thread. I provide a rare ray of light in the context of such idiocy!
I did not insist it was shilling. I allowed for the possibility of stupidity and ignorance being the cause. That, however, exhausts the options. Why don't all you "let's vote harder next time" morons come play poker with me weekly? Keep on this track and I'd own you more thoroughly than Biden does already!
Ha! If you only knew! But we certainly won't make progress turning this into more of a "pissing contest", will we?
In any case, let's set the rest aside for a moment. In retrospect, I let my frustrations get the better of me today. I maintain my general position, but I acknowledge that my behavior left some to be desired. We all have our own opinions. I am confident I could make my case much more convincingly, but I am spread a bit too thin presently to do it justice. I probably should have abstained from posting in this thread at this time.
Unless something changes, I will not be voting until the rigging and fraud has been addressed, up to and including the 2020 election. In truth, I believe the fraud goes much farther back, and it is truly a mess to untangle. We all need to work together on untangling all of that, and there are bound to be some heated discussions. But particularly when I do not have time to make my position clear, I should probably abstain from overly passionate reactions.
So our differences on this topic remain, but I sincerely apologize for my tone. It was disrespectful, and I should have been more humble.
If this is the case, supporting republicans anyway will give them no incentive to change. They know they’ll win so it doesn’t look obvious. Democrats will keep power just barely and even let a change of power from time to time and we go on.
You are being "fucking stupid". They already won. The voting game is over. We have way more evidence than needed to conclusively prove fraud. More proof is only more damage to the country. There are principles in law about claiming you were cheated while continuing to do business: it implies you don't really think you were cheated.
I fear you're falling into the mistakes I made in this thread: letting your frustrations and emotions get the better of you. I have already apologized in several places which perhaps you have not seen. So, again, I should have abstained from this thread earlier. I wasn't able to give a proper account of my perspective and was not at my best. I'm sorry for that.
To your point, briefly, I would argue that you are playing like checkers. It is an old adage in the USA that we have three boxes to maintain our rights and freedoms: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. We're past the ballot box, and voting does nothing but harm, in my opinion, until 2020 and all other fraud/rigging is thoroughly addressed. I will not participate in rigged games, be they checkers or nth-dimensional chess. God willing, we still have opportunity to address the treason and tyranny via the jury box, probably military tribunals. Further, there is precedent in law which basically indicates that by continuing to participate in something you are implying that your grievances have already been addressed. At this point, taking local control, hoping for the best, and preparing for the worst sends the right message. Continuing to vote in rigged elections communicates that you are a willing participant in the rigged, fake voting.
You're entitled to a different opinion, and I might at a later date make a more substantive post on the matter, which may or may not convince you.
I might add that, in a sense, you cannot vote until the elections are secured and the previous fraud/rigging is addressed. The very definition of voting does not allow for pretending to vote while someone/something else actually decides and your "vote" means absolutely nothing. Anything to gain from showing strong in a rigged election was already gained. Doing it over is a fool's errand, in my opinion. Frankly, I thought that so obvious that it provoked me to misbehave earlier.
Don't mistake my being emphatic when the house is on fire as me not being kind. Call it tough love. But my goodness! To think we need MORE evidence of election rigging is to downplay the ample existing evidence! To do that is to slide in the direction of the Marxist narrative! This is not the time to buy into their lies and play their games! This is the time to stand strong, to hold the line! How can you not see this?!
2020 was as blatantly stolen as you're ever going to see. If there is a plan, 2020 was enough to set it off. If there is not a plan, accelerate. Better they get their fight before they're ready for it. We only win with God. Don't pretend you can wrestle with the Devil yourself to fix the evil in the world.
I wish you well, too. All of you, even if some be shills. We are all God's children. But we are not all the best at strategy. Resetting to the 2020 field is a mistake that will cost us dearly. If there is a plan, as we all hope, let them, too, know that we demand 2020 be fixed! That is the law of the land! No plan that allows such fraud to stand is itself Constitutional. 2020 MUST be fixed before any voting.
Yes, telling people to play along with sham voting in an enemy controlled country standing in place of your dead country, thus legitimizing it, is either foolish or shilling.
The cheaters already had their free win, and so far there has been very little consequence. There are promising appearances of trends, all of which could be wholly manufactured to keep you complacent. If there is a plan in place, which we all hope, it does not need you to vote again in rigged elections. If it does, it is a stupid plan. If that is the plan, I say go accelerationism. It will bring war before they've fully consolidated their position.
Your argument is basically to repeat November 3rd, 2020, forever. Win, get the results as if you lost, then cry about it while a foreign, illegitimate power runs your country into the ground.
17 days ago, you say?! 17?!?! Jk! :D But I suggest you check again. If you see the same still, you might want to call it to the attention of the mods. There are very few people here who arrived before me. It is true I lurk mostly, but there have been posts and numerous comments.
Interesting aside: you suggest ignoring those who disagree with you and present no argument. I saw the same on an anti-Q Reddit forum and marveled at the willful ignorance. It is a sad thing to see it here. It is a sad thing to see anywhere. The divisive tactics must be effective.
Finally, as I said elsewhere, I should not have posted in this thread today. I did not have time to make my best case, and I let my frustrations get the better of me. I cannot promise it won't happen again, but I apologize for that and will try to do better.
Edit: If anyone would like to pay me to post here, I could use the money! But I require that I only post what I wish! ;p
Not voting is fucking stupid. Then they can win without even having to cheat. It’s the equivalent of some guy breaking into your house and threatening to rape your wife and you just saying “well he’s already in here, might as well not even try to stop it.”
Being a dewy eyed republican voter in this day and age is like being a battered woman who keeps going back to their abusive boyfriend and expecting him to change.
Yeah because this time our votes will be so overwhelming that we will beat the algorithm right? Instead of adhering to the same policies that got us here, we need to focus our energy on getting the republican governors and legislatures of each red state to overhaul our voting system. Implementing voter ID, banning smart machines, implementing stringent punishments for cheaters, integrating blockchain technology-whatever it is-we need a full proof system. For the first time in our history the states are finally fighting back and it's working. How many have fought these covid mandates, overturned abortion laws, or adopted constitutional carry? This is how we take back America, through the states' power. If we don't demand a change in how we conduct our elections, there won't be anymore real republicans in power and we will never have a free republic again.
How are you going to do that? If they were elected via fraud, why would they listen to what their constituents want?
You are stupid if you think they will listen, if you also believe they got there falsely.
Don’t stop voting. That’s your bare minimum duty. If he hits you on the cheek, give him your other also. Don’t back down like a bitch, ceding the entire territory. Make the enemy have to increase their fraud; it increases the chance that they will pay for it. If you back down it gives them a claim and decreases the chance to effectively zero that they will be brought to justice.
Yup good way to change it is prove fraud first. If people are still voting its because they trust voting right? Way to get them to stop is to prove fraud first so they find it meaningless to vote. So according to your logic we should vote otherwise how else will people realize they should stop?
Fraud has been proven. Most people know the election was stolen. It is not time to vote, it is time to hold our representatives' feet to the fire and demand an overhaul in the system.
Exactly. Make them steal it in a way that is obvious. Don't give it to them. Look how relatively little power the Dems have despite controlling House, Senate, and Presidency. That is becuase the steal they conducted to get there was do obvious that the People simply aren't giving them the due respect for the positions.
You make a very good point - they had to shut down the count because they were so overwhelmed with our turnout the first time, they had to reassess and really double down - they were sloppy for that reason. Time will tell, I suppose, but it's stuff like that which I am hoping will expose them. No we should never just hand it to them. Plus there are so many states and localities which have tightened up their voting laws - nobody was expecting this the first time around. Now they are. I seriously pray that this makes a difference.
And it feels like they didn't even expect actually to pull off the steal, look at how disorganized they'd been so far and it explains why they pushed the least likeable and least competent of all their candidates as they didn't want to risk what they think are their stronger ones as they expected to lose anyway.
How will doing it all over again help, exactly? In order to get people to vote again - and have confidence in the voting system - we need to SEE the safeguards implemented into the voting system.
Until then, doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is the very definition of crazy.
If we don't vote, we hand the victory to them, without them having to cheat. That's how doing it all over again will help - it retains our right to demand justice. As the classic saying goes, "if you don't vote, you have no right bitching about the result". I for one will not hand these assholes a victory, and it's the very least we can do. There's nothing crazy about it.
Personally, I don't give a shit what you do. If you give a fuck about your country, you'll vote. If you are worried about the safeguards in place, research them yourself. If you need safeguards to do your civic duty in this country, then you sound like a whiny little bitch. If you don't support or believe in the Plan, then what are you doing here?
If you need safeguards to do your civic duty in this country, then you sound like a whiny little bitch.
Not fair. If someone legit feels their vote has zero value because election fraud, that's a position worth taking seriously and discussing IMO, rather than merely assigning it a negative label.
Honestly I hope they're caught before then, and I can assure you that I am just as pissed off about it - we're on the same side, fren. I hate these fuckers and I hope they either hang or get put against a wall for what they've done to our country. But consider this - if every republican citizen in this country threw up their hands and said fuck it, I'm not gonna vote because they're going to cheat - well then they don't have to cheat, and they will be even more smug and shitty about it than they were before, and what can we do then? Then we have absolutely nothing to say at all when they win. At least now we can say they cheated. If we give up and refuse to vote, we can then honestly say, they won. Then there's nothing to investigate, and nobody to be held accountable. I don't ever want that to happen, because then there is truly no recourse. These fuckers don't deserve for us to hand them our country. At least at this point there is the hope they'll be caught and answer for their crimes, things put back right again, etc. We need that, don't you think?
"..things put back right again, etc. We need that, don't you think?"
Of course!
"At least now we can say they cheated"
We can already say this, though. Our Civic Duty has been hijacked- and we all know it.
Here's another idea. How about all the Freedom lovers show up at the polls and block them. Not allowing ANYONE to vote. If no one can vote and then all of a sudden their guy gets MILLIONS of votes, we can then say "they DEF cheated!" Now what? We're right back in the same boat we are in now. Who steps in? The Military? Me and you with our own guns? Do we legitimately storm the capital this time and take it over and never give it back?
I guess I'm just not following how another rigged election will somehow "do the trick."
We have all the evidence we ever need already. Why can't we just start dispersing all of it on TruthSocial.com for all to see? I don't know...this is DEF a good discussion to have. And there are valid points to be made on both sides. I would like to hear from some of the others in here reading what they think too...
You are a tool, buddy. You go pretend to vote all you want. The real patriots will be preparing for the potential hard times ahead. Operation Prove the Fraud took place in 2020 and was a huge success. Now is time to fix it. Pretending to vote is not voting. You don't have the option to vote til 2020 is fixed. You get it? Quit being stupid and acting proud of it. If you want to be stupid, be stupid quietly. Unless you're shilling to normalize voting in rigged elections...?
If we end up winning this war, it’ll be in spite of people like you.
If every patriot thought like you, we’d lose 100% of the time, because you can’t win a fight if you don’t participate.
If every patriot thought like the guy you called a tool, then there’d be 120m patriot votes that their cheating machine would have to deal with. Maybe we don’t win this cycle, but if none of us vote we’ll never win any cycle, you dolt.
You are a fool! You are dead weight that people like me have to carry to victory while you sit on your fat ass crying and repeating failed efforts from the past. Go waste your vote on some RINO and legitimize this fraud for your children/grandchildren. May as well go join the CCP while you're at it, you absolute mouth-breathing, window-licking, coward of a moron!
I deleted my previously reply that was made in kind. It is beneath me to exchange vulgarities, especially with a stranger on the internet. I hope that perhaps upon reflection you will decide to do likewise.
As I have said elsewhere, I posted today when I was rushed and very frustrated. I did not make my best case, and I am not proud of my behavior: least of all in the profane response to you which I just deleted. So for now we can agree to disagree. I may post a more honorable discussion of my perspective in the future. In short, I apologize for stooping to exchanging vulgarities and for not abstaining from the discussion until I was better prepared to discuss with greater respect and a more humble nature.
2020 does not need to be fixed for elections to be secure. All we need for elections to be secure is to remove from power and punish all the bad actors and to implement proper election security. Neither of those acts requires anything to be done about 2020.
Now we SHOULD fix 2020, but it's not a hard requirement.
Wrong! As long as 2020 stands, the country is dead. We are an occupied country, presently, and we have no certainty that that will change any time soon. We HOPE it will via Q or whatever, but we do not know it. We may actually end up having to do things as many already have begun to do. Time is better spent preparing and doing than pretending to vote in fake elections.
Towards people like that, yes. I'm not going to entertain people who call me stupid and talk to me like that. Want to have a civil conversation or debate and show some respect? No problem. He got what he had coming to him, and that's all the time I have for someone like that.
No, it is stupid. Utterly and completely stupid. Reading things like this I understand how the elite is able to break people and force them to conform even while they fantasize that they're somehow resisting. Any true patriotic position is certainly not to legitimize by participating in fraudulent elections!
I am going to keep voting but we can’t wait until the midterms to fix the country. The jab mandates are only going to intensify and they’re coming after the children soon.
I understand it’s not about me or my timeline but I guess people like me in blue states are about to be in living hell like Australia if we have to wait until 2022.
Indeed. You’ll also probably need proof of vaccination to vote in 2022 in Blue States. I feel like this whole “don’t ever stop voting, we can collect more proof of fraud next year” mode of thinking is terrible for morale. But, it also may be a psychological war tactic for the enemy, making them think they have until at least then end of 2022. At least I hope so. Because the vaccine passport is in full swing and by Nov of 2022, their plan will be that much further along. It’ll be kind of hard to vote if they won’t let you into the polls because you’re a pureblood.
Maybe they could, but maybe they couldn't. The algorithm relies on way too much physical work in order to run obfuscated. They obviously didn't change anything with the California recall which is why thousands of people showed up to the polls and told they had already voted.
Right, and they got away with it again in California. No one in power gives a rat's ass if you cry and whine online. They clearly do not care if you obviously win elections in decisive landslide victories. Biden is a joke, and here we sit a year in and you fools are talking about voting?! If this is some brilliant plan -- to repeat November 2020 over and over again -- then just pack it up. The country is dead. Even if Q saves the day, you lemmings will march off another cliff before a single generation passes. If voting in rigged elections like a buffoon is the solution going forward, I think I might vote: for the obvious deep state candidate. If there is no effective plan in place, if the military is thoroughly cucked, I say accelerate. As Churchill said, if you find yourself going through Hell, keep going! Push through! Bring it to a head and have done with it! I wish I could play cards for money with you people advocating for this. I'd cheat and rob you blind and know that you'd just come back with MORE money which I would TAKE and you'd do NOTHING but try to bring more SUCKERS to my table!
and here we sit a year in and you fools are talking about voting?!
Is that all anyone here is talking about? You must have your boards confused.
The old controlled opp narrative "your vote doesn't matter, so don't bother voting" doesn't apply anymore, so spare me it.
You are ignoring the elephant in the room: the massive amount of evidence of voter fraud that exists now which has never existed before. And that evidence exists because everyone who follows Q went out and voted in 2018 and 2020, and we will do it again in 2022+ with or without you.
This evidence has forced some critical states to pass new voter laws such as voter ID laws and other states to perform forensic audits to produce even more evidence which has already led to some arrests. So already the field has changed yet you are pretending nothing has happened and you go on to pretend nothing else will happen, despite the evidence that things are happening and changing with more changes coming.
The media is frantically censoring and trying to hide this massive amount of evidence, but anyone who is watching sees it failing because more evidence keeps coming out which is leading to more eyes on and more changes being made. Ratings of the propaganda stations continue to nose dive while new platforms are coming up that are not being censored which is helping get more people aware of the issues. There are still battles in the courts on-going. Some will fail, some will succeed. A massive case is coming from some state AGs with evidence that is undeniable, and today a sheriff is going to expose even more fraud.
So no, the country is not dead and there are more people than ever rising up to push back against this tyranny. It was shown in 2020 that when we turn out strong to vote, the Dominion cheating algorithm can't handle it. You say they updated the algorithm to fix this, then why didn't they update it after fraud was detected in 2018? They did nothing to change it, and rode it again in 2020, having to cheat even more because of the turn-out, and produced even more evidence that will get nailed to their coffin.
You go ahead and try and accelerate your own doom while the real patriots here continue to fight, stand up, and vote with or without you. We will win and you will lose.
There are a lot if lessons to be learned from the 2020 election. MAGA came very close to defeating an unprecedented and possibly unsustainable level of election fraud. So close that it made the election fraud fraud painfully obvious. The people who deny the election fraud are either actively practicing deceit or willful ignorance.
Not turning out in 2022 plays right into the hands of the DS. They can declare victory with wide, comfortable margins that will require little if any fraud. But massive turnout on the day of election is what causes them the biggest problem. That is what exposed the fraud in the 2020 election.
When 12 million new MAGA voters showed up, pushing our numbers to 74 million the DS freaked out and created 14 million new, pretend voters to give Biden his 81 million vote total. A number anyone with a teaspoon of honesty and sanity knows is not possible or true.
Bottom line. Protest now. Pressure GOP State and Federal Reps now to fix the 2020 election. Simultaneously red pill people and recruit new, real, living, breathing, legal, MAGA voters. That way if we sadly get to November of 2022 without 2020 fixed, we can make the DS miserable with vote totals that either beat the fraud or make it even more obvious.
And let’s recruit candidates to primary RINOS. Our message should be Fix 2020 or get primaried.
The benefit is that RINOs realize they can't take our support for granted anymore when they just turn around and support the uniparty, leaving us in the dirt. Trump wasn't telling us not to go vote for Dems, he was telling us not to go vote for republicans who are already elected but won't get off their asses and fix what's broken
Why do you think that the steal was so obvious? Because many were told to vote, and Democrats had to pull all the stops which made them sloppy for the masses to realize that something is off.
There are multitudes of people that are now involved at the precinct level all over the country, specifically to counter election shenanigans. They are going to have A LOT harder time pulling off this again. We have eyes and boots on the ground just about everywhere now.
If you are concerned your vote doesn't matter, get involved and help in your local area to make damn sure that it does. It's not enough to just vote. It's the vote counters that ultimately matter most.
Why is it legit to assume he meant 2022 when the question was asked in April 2018 and Q responded midterms will be secured? The anon was very obviously asking about 2018.
I’ve been voting in CA for at least 40 years, every election even when my vote was canceled by illegals voting. I can’t help the cheating, I’m only responsible for doing the right thing, so nothing is going to stop me now.
I agree. I HATE the fact they abuse my vote -- but it's all we have. I want to vote and with my whole being I want it to be honestly counted. I live in NY - my vote has never mattered.
I'm praying we have a full forensic audit going on on live tv DURING the entire election process, narrated by Mike and Doug Dr Frank and the Cyber Ninja team.
Putting my ballot into to that machine is gonna be so heartbreakingly hard... like I'm sending a puppy to Fauci
While the GA crowd will do their due diligence and vote, there are an enormous amount of disenfranchised Americans out there that aren’t going to vote because after Biden ‘won’ they figured f$&k it…
Voting is a long ways away. Lots can happen in that time to light a fire under people. I would posit a lot has already happened and many are at their precipice already. Voting is about all most people can do and feel like they're doing SOMETHING
My only question is this.. At what point do we say voting doesnt work if we continue to have the illusion of elections? Of course we all realize 2020 was not an election. If nothing is fixed then 2022 wont be an election either. When exactly do we say voting in selections only gives legitimacy to the illusion of an election?
Take a pic of your marked ballot before you hand it in? If enough would do it, it might make it more difficult for them to cheat. I don't know if we could do it and maintain the secret ballot though, but maybe a way can be found. Let's start working on it. Somehow let's secure these elections on our own if our leaders won't.
Dr Frank's opinion on this today..> "As I am speaking to groups around the country, people are asking me whether they should vote... since the system is so corrupt.
ABSOLUTELY.
Until we get back to "Voting Amish" (all paper, no electricity), our only recourse is to overwhelm the manipulating algorithms.
To illustrate, if there are only 100 eligible voters in a community and they all vote, then there is no credit line of phantom voters remaining to manipulate... no one would believe the outcome if there were 120 ballots received...
Where we get into trouble is when the real turnouts are only 50% of eligible voters, allowing the bad guys to stuff the ballot boxes with phantom ballots.
Everyone needs to vote... and encourage their friends to vote.
We the people have to reclaim our role as the real government."
He is hard at work on the Supreme Court case. He has a valid point here I think.
From April 2018: Will election fraud be revealed soon? Q: Yes midterms are safe.
Where do we get the idea he wasn't talking about the 2018 midterms???? That 's very obviously what the anon was asking about. The midterms weren't safe. And 2020 WASN'T safeguarded guaranteed, as we were promised. So, whatever Q and Q+ have up their sleeve, it HAS to include explanations of these discrepancies.
Also, good luck convincing MASSES of Republicans to go out and stand in line in the cold and rain to vote—as a form of theater and sneaky setting up of the DS for another round of sweeping landslide election victories (only THIS time they'll REALLY get busted, right???!!!)—if they KNOW 2020 has not been addressed and the voting system has NOT been completely overhauled to a state of trustworthy security.
It is categorically, absolutely, positively, not going to happen. Human nature says fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on you again, but boy I'm onto you this time. Fool me thrice, hell, I'm just a blithering brain-dead idiot who deserves to get bent over.
If 2020 is not vindicated and the election system in all 50 states completely torn down and overhauled (hint: there is probably not enough time for this now) the People will NOT show up in the kind of numbers you're envisioning, even if theoretically and conceptually they should.
Get out and vote. Trump wouldn't have left the WH if he didn't have a plan. Surrendering the presidency and the country to an administration he knew stole the election without a real plan would be considered the most cowardly act of our history. Therefore Trump has secured the 2024 election.
Get out and vote. Trump wouldn't have left the WH if he didn't have a plan. Surrendering the presidency and the country to an administration he knew stole the election without a real plan would be considered the most cowardly act of our history. Therefore Trump has secured the 2024 election. Can't wait to vote Trump in 2024.
Had me until the 2024.
We will not have a country left if this regime is allowed to persist another three-plus years, unless martial law is declared and we are openly living under military rule while the election systems across all 50 states get completely overhauled.
This is all fine and good and I agree with your reasoning, but we are resorting to having to fight known cheaters. This is truly insane world if we are admitting that they are cheating, they know they cheat, we know they cheat, then know that we know they cheat, yet we are going to just accept it and move on with voting as usual? No, "someone has to go to prison Ben."
Democrats don’t care if you know they cheat. It doesn’t show them anything and now that they know, they will just work harder to avoid doing what they did last time.
Laugh all you want. If you knew what you were laughing at you probably wouldn't be. I mean unless you like fascism, communism, and the loss of your freedom.
I'm voting - to NOT vote is to let them win. They may cheat true. Giving up is not an option. EDIT: Too bad we don't have a physical board at voting polls where we can also mark who we voted for. Idgaf who knows who I cast my vote for tbh.
What gets me is - we have republicans in federal office right now. They could be working to solve this, but they aren't. More and more of them are starting to say the election wasn't rigged at all. And given what we know about the dominion scam, shouldn't we be asking ourselves how they made it past the rigging?? It tells me that some of them have to be in on it, and I see no benefit in voting for them.
I'm in Missouri. I'm lucky that we have Hawley who at least seems willing to fight for us. But why in the world would I vote for Blunt?? What does that signal to him?
Don't forget to vote for local elections! I have one next week. Find a way to keep your eye on that. People on that level can't cheat as much. They're barely used to anyone showing up at all for elections, and often run unopposed.
I tend to agree with you, but playing the devils advocate, wouldn't the enemy see people gathering by the slew on Truth and ramp up their cheating methods?
The people he is currently not reaching on Twitter will not follow him here.
Yes because none of them ever would read any of his tweets when he was on Twitter, let alone follow him and be among the first to respond to each message from Trump.
Vote so they HAVE to cheat and can't claim a legitimate election.
Vote BIG so they have to cheat BIG
Vote so they don't use your name and registration for THEIR purpose. That's like gutting your corpse and wearing you as a mask to bring in the guy that's gonna fuck you and America in the ass.
Vote to leave no doubt in your mind in conscience that you did everything the right way and are justified in every regard. Anti Trump protestors looked like clowns when they raged and when asked if they voted they'd say no.
We have to vote but the D party has figured out how to guarantee a win every time. They don’t get the final results from their “D party string hold” until they know how many votes to manufacture
Of the four boxes I have control over two after being silenced on the soap box and not having access to the jury box. I’ll keep hitting the ballot box until I have no other option but the last box.
hardly a majority no more. we are being crumbled as time goes on. The 2 independents are really Democrats, some Republicans are useless RINOS, and the 2 Republicans we did have, we lost in another Democrap rigged election.
Now what?
I agree with you. We can't NOT go vote - otherwise we hand it to these assholes with absolutely no recourse. We must not only vote, but turn out in record numbers as never before! Also there have been MANY precincts, counties and states in general who have tightened up their voting laws tremendously, cleaned up their voter rolls, etc. and have taken steps to secure the next election, even if they haven't done anything about 2020. Not voting is giving up, and handing a victory to these scumbags. I won't be a part of that - I'm voting in every election no matter what. I can't complain about the fuckers cheating if I don't vote.
👆This pede gets it.
:) thanks, fren! We can't hand this shit to them, they're too smug as it is.
They've owned it and you for decades.
We won't survive till 2024 unless it's under martial law.
Hand them what they already took right before your eyes? All voting does now so provide an air of legitimacy. I struggle to imagine that you're not shilling.
Wow, you’re so lost.
OP did a bang up job explaining his rationale… did you even bother reading it?
It boils down to this: if we hadn’t voted in droves in 2020, we’d be screwed. The whole “election fraud isn’t real” narrative of the left would have won outright.
If we sit out 2022, they don’t even have to cheat to win - they’ll win legitimately and we’ll have zero recourse.
So, two pieces of advice:
Quit being an ignoramus
Don’t call people shills simply because they see things a different way than you do. That’s leftist tactics bullshit, and you need to be better than they are.
I read it thoroughly. How else would I recognize it for the absolute dipshit dreck that it is? Yeah, it was needed for 2020 to show absolute proof of the rigging. It is no longer needed. I don't need a second video of a murderer doing his thing before I hang him.
No one ever again wins legitimately until 2020 is fixed. We are a conquered, occupied country, and they will happily pacify you cowards with elections as long as you're willing to keep playing that game. Not me. If there is a plan, let it unfold. Otherwise, bring the pain. The quicker we bring it to a head and have it resolved, the better.
Me an ignoramus? Be glad I'm wasting my time on this retarded thread. I provide a rare ray of light in the context of such idiocy!
I did not insist it was shilling. I allowed for the possibility of stupidity and ignorance being the cause. That, however, exhausts the options. Why don't all you "let's vote harder next time" morons come play poker with me weekly? Keep on this track and I'd own you more thoroughly than Biden does already!
Dunning-Krueger much?
Ha! If you only knew! But we certainly won't make progress turning this into more of a "pissing contest", will we?
In any case, let's set the rest aside for a moment. In retrospect, I let my frustrations get the better of me today. I maintain my general position, but I acknowledge that my behavior left some to be desired. We all have our own opinions. I am confident I could make my case much more convincingly, but I am spread a bit too thin presently to do it justice. I probably should have abstained from posting in this thread at this time.
Unless something changes, I will not be voting until the rigging and fraud has been addressed, up to and including the 2020 election. In truth, I believe the fraud goes much farther back, and it is truly a mess to untangle. We all need to work together on untangling all of that, and there are bound to be some heated discussions. But particularly when I do not have time to make my position clear, I should probably abstain from overly passionate reactions.
So our differences on this topic remain, but I sincerely apologize for my tone. It was disrespectful, and I should have been more humble.
If this is the case, supporting republicans anyway will give them no incentive to change. They know they’ll win so it doesn’t look obvious. Democrats will keep power just barely and even let a change of power from time to time and we go on.
If you don’t vote, they won’t even have to cheat. Don’t be fucking stupid.
You are being "fucking stupid". They already won. The voting game is over. We have way more evidence than needed to conclusively prove fraud. More proof is only more damage to the country. There are principles in law about claiming you were cheated while continuing to do business: it implies you don't really think you were cheated.
No, it implies that you’re not a bitch who is going to just give up. This isn’t a game of fucking checkers, you fuck.
I fear you're falling into the mistakes I made in this thread: letting your frustrations and emotions get the better of you. I have already apologized in several places which perhaps you have not seen. So, again, I should have abstained from this thread earlier. I wasn't able to give a proper account of my perspective and was not at my best. I'm sorry for that.
To your point, briefly, I would argue that you are playing like checkers. It is an old adage in the USA that we have three boxes to maintain our rights and freedoms: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box. We're past the ballot box, and voting does nothing but harm, in my opinion, until 2020 and all other fraud/rigging is thoroughly addressed. I will not participate in rigged games, be they checkers or nth-dimensional chess. God willing, we still have opportunity to address the treason and tyranny via the jury box, probably military tribunals. Further, there is precedent in law which basically indicates that by continuing to participate in something you are implying that your grievances have already been addressed. At this point, taking local control, hoping for the best, and preparing for the worst sends the right message. Continuing to vote in rigged elections communicates that you are a willing participant in the rigged, fake voting.
You're entitled to a different opinion, and I might at a later date make a more substantive post on the matter, which may or may not convince you.
I might add that, in a sense, you cannot vote until the elections are secured and the previous fraud/rigging is addressed. The very definition of voting does not allow for pretending to vote while someone/something else actually decides and your "vote" means absolutely nothing. Anything to gain from showing strong in a rigged election was already gained. Doing it over is a fool's errand, in my opinion. Frankly, I thought that so obvious that it provoked me to misbehave earlier.
Heart of a warrior. Patience of a Saint. God bless you.
Don't mistake my being emphatic when the house is on fire as me not being kind. Call it tough love. But my goodness! To think we need MORE evidence of election rigging is to downplay the ample existing evidence! To do that is to slide in the direction of the Marxist narrative! This is not the time to buy into their lies and play their games! This is the time to stand strong, to hold the line! How can you not see this?!
2020 was as blatantly stolen as you're ever going to see. If there is a plan, 2020 was enough to set it off. If there is not a plan, accelerate. Better they get their fight before they're ready for it. We only win with God. Don't pretend you can wrestle with the Devil yourself to fix the evil in the world.
I wish you well, too. All of you, even if some be shills. We are all God's children. But we are not all the best at strategy. Resetting to the 2020 field is a mistake that will cost us dearly. If there is a plan, as we all hope, let them, too, know that we demand 2020 be fixed! That is the law of the land! No plan that allows such fraud to stand is itself Constitutional. 2020 MUST be fixed before any voting.
Telling people to vote thereby forcing the cheaters to cheat super hard making the fraud clam easy to make as it's demonstrably true = shill
Telling people not to vote thereby giving the cheaters a free win where we can't complain about fraud because they didn't steal it = not a shill
Honk honk 🤡
Yes, telling people to play along with sham voting in an enemy controlled country standing in place of your dead country, thus legitimizing it, is either foolish or shilling.
The cheaters already had their free win, and so far there has been very little consequence. There are promising appearances of trends, all of which could be wholly manufactured to keep you complacent. If there is a plan in place, which we all hope, it does not need you to vote again in rigged elections. If it does, it is a stupid plan. If that is the plan, I say go accelerationism. It will bring war before they've fully consolidated their position.
Your argument is basically to repeat November 3rd, 2020, forever. Win, get the results as if you lost, then cry about it while a foreign, illegitimate power runs your country into the ground.
RealTrumpsThirdTerm started commenting 17 days ago and has no posts. I believe RealTrumpsThirdTerm is a paid shill. Ignore him/her.
17 days ago, you say?! 17?!?! Jk! :D But I suggest you check again. If you see the same still, you might want to call it to the attention of the mods. There are very few people here who arrived before me. It is true I lurk mostly, but there have been posts and numerous comments.
Interesting aside: you suggest ignoring those who disagree with you and present no argument. I saw the same on an anti-Q Reddit forum and marveled at the willful ignorance. It is a sad thing to see it here. It is a sad thing to see anywhere. The divisive tactics must be effective.
Finally, as I said elsewhere, I should not have posted in this thread today. I did not have time to make my best case, and I let my frustrations get the better of me. I cannot promise it won't happen again, but I apologize for that and will try to do better.
Edit: If anyone would like to pay me to post here, I could use the money! But I require that I only post what I wish! ;p
Not voting is fucking stupid. Then they can win without even having to cheat. It’s the equivalent of some guy breaking into your house and threatening to rape your wife and you just saying “well he’s already in here, might as well not even try to stop it.”
Make them fight.
I voted and it didn't count. Repeating stupid shit is stupid.
You’re stupid.
Being a dewy eyed republican voter in this day and age is like being a battered woman who keeps going back to their abusive boyfriend and expecting him to change.
Force a change in the system first.
You won’t force a damn thing if you don’t vote which gives them a legitimate claim of being the majority of voters without even having to cheat.
Yeah because this time our votes will be so overwhelming that we will beat the algorithm right? Instead of adhering to the same policies that got us here, we need to focus our energy on getting the republican governors and legislatures of each red state to overhaul our voting system. Implementing voter ID, banning smart machines, implementing stringent punishments for cheaters, integrating blockchain technology-whatever it is-we need a full proof system. For the first time in our history the states are finally fighting back and it's working. How many have fought these covid mandates, overturned abortion laws, or adopted constitutional carry? This is how we take back America, through the states' power. If we don't demand a change in how we conduct our elections, there won't be anymore real republicans in power and we will never have a free republic again.
How are you going to do that? If they were elected via fraud, why would they listen to what their constituents want?
You are stupid if you think they will listen, if you also believe they got there falsely.
Don’t stop voting. That’s your bare minimum duty. If he hits you on the cheek, give him your other also. Don’t back down like a bitch, ceding the entire territory. Make the enemy have to increase their fraud; it increases the chance that they will pay for it. If you back down it gives them a claim and decreases the chance to effectively zero that they will be brought to justice.
Well, you certainly live up to your username.
Yup good way to change it is prove fraud first. If people are still voting its because they trust voting right? Way to get them to stop is to prove fraud first so they find it meaningless to vote. So according to your logic we should vote otherwise how else will people realize they should stop?
Fraud has been proven. Most people know the election was stolen. It is not time to vote, it is time to hold our representatives' feet to the fire and demand an overhaul in the system.
I'm not. I don't need a government. Not one with Biden or one with trump. I only need to be left the fu k alone.
...And make sure your based friends vote too.
Yep, now is not the time to become complacent. Good point!
NEVER become complacent again, actually :)
Exactly. Make them steal it in a way that is obvious. Don't give it to them. Look how relatively little power the Dems have despite controlling House, Senate, and Presidency. That is becuase the steal they conducted to get there was do obvious that the People simply aren't giving them the due respect for the positions.
You make a very good point - they had to shut down the count because they were so overwhelmed with our turnout the first time, they had to reassess and really double down - they were sloppy for that reason. Time will tell, I suppose, but it's stuff like that which I am hoping will expose them. No we should never just hand it to them. Plus there are so many states and localities which have tightened up their voting laws - nobody was expecting this the first time around. Now they are. I seriously pray that this makes a difference.
And it feels like they didn't even expect actually to pull off the steal, look at how disorganized they'd been so far and it explains why they pushed the least likeable and least competent of all their candidates as they didn't want to risk what they think are their stronger ones as they expected to lose anyway.
"...turn out in record numbers as never before"
We did this in 2020.
How will doing it all over again help, exactly? In order to get people to vote again - and have confidence in the voting system - we need to SEE the safeguards implemented into the voting system.
Until then, doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results is the very definition of crazy.
If we don't vote, we hand the victory to them, without them having to cheat. That's how doing it all over again will help - it retains our right to demand justice. As the classic saying goes, "if you don't vote, you have no right bitching about the result". I for one will not hand these assholes a victory, and it's the very least we can do. There's nothing crazy about it.
"If we don't vote, we hand the victory to them, without them having to cheat"
If we DO vote, then they cheat again and declare victory. Now what?
We already know they cheat. We already have enough evidence against them.
The time has come for those with the power and resources to stop these criminals.
Want me to vote? Show me the safeguards put in place...
This sounds a lot like saying "We need ONE more election to catch them!"
I mean, common...really?
Personally, I don't give a shit what you do. If you give a fuck about your country, you'll vote. If you are worried about the safeguards in place, research them yourself. If you need safeguards to do your civic duty in this country, then you sound like a whiny little bitch. If you don't support or believe in the Plan, then what are you doing here?
Not fair. If someone legit feels their vote has zero value because election fraud, that's a position worth taking seriously and discussing IMO, rather than merely assigning it a negative label.
"If you don't support or believe in the Plan, then what are you doing here?"
lol...okay, bud. I can appreciate your gusto, so I'll let a comment like this one slide.
So what you're saying boils down to "We just need ONE more election to catch these criminals!"
Correct?
Honestly I hope they're caught before then, and I can assure you that I am just as pissed off about it - we're on the same side, fren. I hate these fuckers and I hope they either hang or get put against a wall for what they've done to our country. But consider this - if every republican citizen in this country threw up their hands and said fuck it, I'm not gonna vote because they're going to cheat - well then they don't have to cheat, and they will be even more smug and shitty about it than they were before, and what can we do then? Then we have absolutely nothing to say at all when they win. At least now we can say they cheated. If we give up and refuse to vote, we can then honestly say, they won. Then there's nothing to investigate, and nobody to be held accountable. I don't ever want that to happen, because then there is truly no recourse. These fuckers don't deserve for us to hand them our country. At least at this point there is the hope they'll be caught and answer for their crimes, things put back right again, etc. We need that, don't you think?
"..things put back right again, etc. We need that, don't you think?"
Of course!
"At least now we can say they cheated"
We can already say this, though. Our Civic Duty has been hijacked- and we all know it.
Here's another idea. How about all the Freedom lovers show up at the polls and block them. Not allowing ANYONE to vote. If no one can vote and then all of a sudden their guy gets MILLIONS of votes, we can then say "they DEF cheated!" Now what? We're right back in the same boat we are in now. Who steps in? The Military? Me and you with our own guns? Do we legitimately storm the capital this time and take it over and never give it back?
I guess I'm just not following how another rigged election will somehow "do the trick."
We have all the evidence we ever need already. Why can't we just start dispersing all of it on TruthSocial.com for all to see? I don't know...this is DEF a good discussion to have. And there are valid points to be made on both sides. I would like to hear from some of the others in here reading what they think too...
You are a tool, buddy. You go pretend to vote all you want. The real patriots will be preparing for the potential hard times ahead. Operation Prove the Fraud took place in 2020 and was a huge success. Now is time to fix it. Pretending to vote is not voting. You don't have the option to vote til 2020 is fixed. You get it? Quit being stupid and acting proud of it. If you want to be stupid, be stupid quietly. Unless you're shilling to normalize voting in rigged elections...?
If we end up winning this war, it’ll be in spite of people like you.
If every patriot thought like you, we’d lose 100% of the time, because you can’t win a fight if you don’t participate.
If every patriot thought like the guy you called a tool, then there’d be 120m patriot votes that their cheating machine would have to deal with. Maybe we don’t win this cycle, but if none of us vote we’ll never win any cycle, you dolt.
You are a fool! You are dead weight that people like me have to carry to victory while you sit on your fat ass crying and repeating failed efforts from the past. Go waste your vote on some RINO and legitimize this fraud for your children/grandchildren. May as well go join the CCP while you're at it, you absolute mouth-breathing, window-licking, coward of a moron!
lol you're right. not only do they rig, but they switch your votes. it's like the more you DO vote, the better you make it for them.
Dude go fuck yourself.
I deleted my previously reply that was made in kind. It is beneath me to exchange vulgarities, especially with a stranger on the internet. I hope that perhaps upon reflection you will decide to do likewise.
As I have said elsewhere, I posted today when I was rushed and very frustrated. I did not make my best case, and I am not proud of my behavior: least of all in the profane response to you which I just deleted. So for now we can agree to disagree. I may post a more honorable discussion of my perspective in the future. In short, I apologize for stooping to exchanging vulgarities and for not abstaining from the discussion until I was better prepared to discuss with greater respect and a more humble nature.
2020 does not need to be fixed for elections to be secure. All we need for elections to be secure is to remove from power and punish all the bad actors and to implement proper election security. Neither of those acts requires anything to be done about 2020.
Now we SHOULD fix 2020, but it's not a hard requirement.
Wrong! As long as 2020 stands, the country is dead. We are an occupied country, presently, and we have no certainty that that will change any time soon. We HOPE it will via Q or whatever, but we do not know it. We may actually end up having to do things as many already have begun to do. Time is better spent preparing and doing than pretending to vote in fake elections.
Nasty fuckin attitude you got there.
Towards people like that, yes. I'm not going to entertain people who call me stupid and talk to me like that. Want to have a civil conversation or debate and show some respect? No problem. He got what he had coming to him, and that's all the time I have for someone like that.
please go
Tbh we don't have the time to wait that long. Look how quick everything has turned to shit
No, it is stupid. Utterly and completely stupid. Reading things like this I understand how the elite is able to break people and force them to conform even while they fantasize that they're somehow resisting. Any true patriotic position is certainly not to legitimize by participating in fraudulent elections!
every time we go vote we leave evidence that can be collected and used against these voter fraud cia fbi doj ccp obama demons. so yeah go vote.
All the evidence ever needed was collected in the 2020 election. Why do we need more?
Nicely put! :)
No one/no situation will ever prevent me from casting a vote.
We got one coming up, very low attendance expected... to replace our KY rep who died of pancreatic cancer.
Ain't gonna let Louisville or Lex (blue) to get by without a fight.
I’d say they only way I wouldnt vote is if I were dead, but…
Pretending to vote in rigged elections is not voting. You've already been prevented from voting.
Casting a lawful vote is not "pretending"... rigged elections or no. It is my right and duty as a citizen.
Do as you wish but, do not impose your opinion on me.
I am going to keep voting but we can’t wait until the midterms to fix the country. The jab mandates are only going to intensify and they’re coming after the children soon.
I understand it’s not about me or my timeline but I guess people like me in blue states are about to be in living hell like Australia if we have to wait until 2022.
My governor is gonna institute mandates full on once he gets in. He hasn't because he wanted to appeal to the moderates.
Why would he do that? They still feel the need to play the game for a reason.
Murphy?
Yes sir
Amen
Indeed. You’ll also probably need proof of vaccination to vote in 2022 in Blue States. I feel like this whole “don’t ever stop voting, we can collect more proof of fraud next year” mode of thinking is terrible for morale. But, it also may be a psychological war tactic for the enemy, making them think they have until at least then end of 2022. At least I hope so. Because the vaccine passport is in full swing and by Nov of 2022, their plan will be that much further along. It’ll be kind of hard to vote if they won’t let you into the polls because you’re a pureblood.
Don't forget the only reason Florida and Texas didn't flip to Biden was because of the huge turn-out for President Trump.
The Dominion vote cheating machine's algorithm can get overwhelmed if there are too many ballots for the real winner.. it can't keep up.
We must all continue to vote.
Of course they won't bother to fix their algorithm /s
This thread is an embarrassment and belongs in a Fox News comment section.
Maybe they could, but maybe they couldn't. The algorithm relies on way too much physical work in order to run obfuscated. They obviously didn't change anything with the California recall which is why thousands of people showed up to the polls and told they had already voted.
Why is this thread an embarrassment?
Right, and they got away with it again in California. No one in power gives a rat's ass if you cry and whine online. They clearly do not care if you obviously win elections in decisive landslide victories. Biden is a joke, and here we sit a year in and you fools are talking about voting?! If this is some brilliant plan -- to repeat November 2020 over and over again -- then just pack it up. The country is dead. Even if Q saves the day, you lemmings will march off another cliff before a single generation passes. If voting in rigged elections like a buffoon is the solution going forward, I think I might vote: for the obvious deep state candidate. If there is no effective plan in place, if the military is thoroughly cucked, I say accelerate. As Churchill said, if you find yourself going through Hell, keep going! Push through! Bring it to a head and have done with it! I wish I could play cards for money with you people advocating for this. I'd cheat and rob you blind and know that you'd just come back with MORE money which I would TAKE and you'd do NOTHING but try to bring more SUCKERS to my table!
Is that all anyone here is talking about? You must have your boards confused.
The old controlled opp narrative "your vote doesn't matter, so don't bother voting" doesn't apply anymore, so spare me it.
You are ignoring the elephant in the room: the massive amount of evidence of voter fraud that exists now which has never existed before. And that evidence exists because everyone who follows Q went out and voted in 2018 and 2020, and we will do it again in 2022+ with or without you.
This evidence has forced some critical states to pass new voter laws such as voter ID laws and other states to perform forensic audits to produce even more evidence which has already led to some arrests. So already the field has changed yet you are pretending nothing has happened and you go on to pretend nothing else will happen, despite the evidence that things are happening and changing with more changes coming.
The media is frantically censoring and trying to hide this massive amount of evidence, but anyone who is watching sees it failing because more evidence keeps coming out which is leading to more eyes on and more changes being made. Ratings of the propaganda stations continue to nose dive while new platforms are coming up that are not being censored which is helping get more people aware of the issues. There are still battles in the courts on-going. Some will fail, some will succeed. A massive case is coming from some state AGs with evidence that is undeniable, and today a sheriff is going to expose even more fraud.
So no, the country is not dead and there are more people than ever rising up to push back against this tyranny. It was shown in 2020 that when we turn out strong to vote, the Dominion cheating algorithm can't handle it. You say they updated the algorithm to fix this, then why didn't they update it after fraud was detected in 2018? They did nothing to change it, and rode it again in 2020, having to cheat even more because of the turn-out, and produced even more evidence that will get nailed to their coffin.
You go ahead and try and accelerate your own doom while the real patriots here continue to fight, stand up, and vote with or without you. We will win and you will lose.
There are a lot if lessons to be learned from the 2020 election. MAGA came very close to defeating an unprecedented and possibly unsustainable level of election fraud. So close that it made the election fraud fraud painfully obvious. The people who deny the election fraud are either actively practicing deceit or willful ignorance.
Not turning out in 2022 plays right into the hands of the DS. They can declare victory with wide, comfortable margins that will require little if any fraud. But massive turnout on the day of election is what causes them the biggest problem. That is what exposed the fraud in the 2020 election.
When 12 million new MAGA voters showed up, pushing our numbers to 74 million the DS freaked out and created 14 million new, pretend voters to give Biden his 81 million vote total. A number anyone with a teaspoon of honesty and sanity knows is not possible or true.
Bottom line. Protest now. Pressure GOP State and Federal Reps now to fix the 2020 election. Simultaneously red pill people and recruit new, real, living, breathing, legal, MAGA voters. That way if we sadly get to November of 2022 without 2020 fixed, we can make the DS miserable with vote totals that either beat the fraud or make it even more obvious.
And let’s recruit candidates to primary RINOS. Our message should be Fix 2020 or get primaried.
I saw someone also ask a great question: what benefit do we get by NOT voting? I don't see a single one other than a self-righteous pat on the back.
The benefit is that RINOs realize they can't take our support for granted anymore when they just turn around and support the uniparty, leaving us in the dirt. Trump wasn't telling us not to go vote for Dems, he was telling us not to go vote for republicans who are already elected but won't get off their asses and fix what's broken
That’s actually true. They would panic they will be out of their positions and lose everything
I'll always vote
Vote people, don't be idiots.
Why do you think that the steal was so obvious? Because many were told to vote, and Democrats had to pull all the stops which made them sloppy for the masses to realize that something is off.
There are multitudes of people that are now involved at the precinct level all over the country, specifically to counter election shenanigans. They are going to have A LOT harder time pulling off this again. We have eyes and boots on the ground just about everywhere now.
If you are concerned your vote doesn't matter, get involved and help in your local area to make damn sure that it does. It's not enough to just vote. It's the vote counters that ultimately matter most.
AZ 2018 midterms were definitely not legit. Was Q referring to 2022 midterms?
Why is it legit to assume he meant 2022 when the question was asked in April 2018 and Q responded midterms will be secured? The anon was very obviously asking about 2018.
I’ve been voting in CA for at least 40 years, every election even when my vote was canceled by illegals voting. I can’t help the cheating, I’m only responsible for doing the right thing, so nothing is going to stop me now.
I feel your pain. My wife and I still vote.
You cancel an illegal voting. Better way to think about it. Godspeed
I agree. I HATE the fact they abuse my vote -- but it's all we have. I want to vote and with my whole being I want it to be honestly counted. I live in NY - my vote has never mattered.
I'm praying we have a full forensic audit going on on live tv DURING the entire election process, narrated by Mike and Doug Dr Frank and the Cyber Ninja team.
Putting my ballot into to that machine is gonna be so heartbreakingly hard... like I'm sending a puppy to Fauci
While the GA crowd will do their due diligence and vote, there are an enormous amount of disenfranchised Americans out there that aren’t going to vote because after Biden ‘won’ they figured f$&k it…
Voting is a long ways away. Lots can happen in that time to light a fire under people. I would posit a lot has already happened and many are at their precipice already. Voting is about all most people can do and feel like they're doing SOMETHING
My only question is this.. At what point do we say voting doesnt work if we continue to have the illusion of elections? Of course we all realize 2020 was not an election. If nothing is fixed then 2022 wont be an election either. When exactly do we say voting in selections only gives legitimacy to the illusion of an election?
My line is 2020. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
Take a pic of your marked ballot before you hand it in? If enough would do it, it might make it more difficult for them to cheat. I don't know if we could do it and maintain the secret ballot though, but maybe a way can be found. Let's start working on it. Somehow let's secure these elections on our own if our leaders won't.
Dr Frank's opinion on this today..> "As I am speaking to groups around the country, people are asking me whether they should vote... since the system is so corrupt. ABSOLUTELY. Until we get back to "Voting Amish" (all paper, no electricity), our only recourse is to overwhelm the manipulating algorithms. To illustrate, if there are only 100 eligible voters in a community and they all vote, then there is no credit line of phantom voters remaining to manipulate... no one would believe the outcome if there were 120 ballots received... Where we get into trouble is when the real turnouts are only 50% of eligible voters, allowing the bad guys to stuff the ballot boxes with phantom ballots. Everyone needs to vote... and encourage their friends to vote. We the people have to reclaim our role as the real government."
He is hard at work on the Supreme Court case. He has a valid point here I think.
From April 2018: Will election fraud be revealed soon? Q: Yes midterms are safe.
Where do we get the idea he wasn't talking about the 2018 midterms???? That 's very obviously what the anon was asking about. The midterms weren't safe. And 2020 WASN'T safeguarded guaranteed, as we were promised. So, whatever Q and Q+ have up their sleeve, it HAS to include explanations of these discrepancies.
Also, good luck convincing MASSES of Republicans to go out and stand in line in the cold and rain to vote—as a form of theater and sneaky setting up of the DS for another round of sweeping landslide election victories (only THIS time they'll REALLY get busted, right???!!!)—if they KNOW 2020 has not been addressed and the voting system has NOT been completely overhauled to a state of trustworthy security.
It is categorically, absolutely, positively, not going to happen. Human nature says fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on you again, but boy I'm onto you this time. Fool me thrice, hell, I'm just a blithering brain-dead idiot who deserves to get bent over.
If 2020 is not vindicated and the election system in all 50 states completely torn down and overhauled (hint: there is probably not enough time for this now) the People will NOT show up in the kind of numbers you're envisioning, even if theoretically and conceptually they should.
Must. Fix. 2020. Period.
This 1000%
I tried to say this up above, but got downvoted into oblivion.
Get out and vote. Trump wouldn't have left the WH if he didn't have a plan. Surrendering the presidency and the country to an administration he knew stole the election without a real plan would be considered the most cowardly act of our history. Therefore Trump has secured the 2024 election.
Can't wait to vote Trump in 2024.
Had me until the 2024.
We will not have a country left if this regime is allowed to persist another three-plus years, unless martial law is declared and we are openly living under military rule while the election systems across all 50 states get completely overhauled.
This is all fine and good and I agree with your reasoning, but we are resorting to having to fight known cheaters. This is truly insane world if we are admitting that they are cheating, they know they cheat, we know they cheat, then know that we know they cheat, yet we are going to just accept it and move on with voting as usual? No, "someone has to go to prison Ben."
https://youtu.be/co4EsnwAM1Q?t=110
I had to laugh out loud. Hilarious comment.
Democrats don’t care if you know they cheat. It doesn’t show them anything and now that they know, they will just work harder to avoid doing what they did last time.
Laugh all you want. If you knew what you were laughing at you probably wouldn't be. I mean unless you like fascism, communism, and the loss of your freedom.
If the arrests havent happened by 2022, I will continue to prepare for civil war, it will be our only chance.
I'm voting - to NOT vote is to let them win. They may cheat true. Giving up is not an option. EDIT: Too bad we don't have a physical board at voting polls where we can also mark who we voted for. Idgaf who knows who I cast my vote for tbh.
The California recall election was blatantly stolen because nothing has been done to stop it.
I expect the same thing to happen to the gubernatorial race in Virginia.
While I agree that we must continue to vote, I think we can continue to expect the elections to be stolen.
Very very few states have started 2020 audits. The legislatures know very well if they can drag their feet long enough they can run the clock out.
What gets me is - we have republicans in federal office right now. They could be working to solve this, but they aren't. More and more of them are starting to say the election wasn't rigged at all. And given what we know about the dominion scam, shouldn't we be asking ourselves how they made it past the rigging?? It tells me that some of them have to be in on it, and I see no benefit in voting for them.
I'm in Missouri. I'm lucky that we have Hawley who at least seems willing to fight for us. But why in the world would I vote for Blunt?? What does that signal to him?
Don't forget to vote for local elections! I have one next week. Find a way to keep your eye on that. People on that level can't cheat as much. They're barely used to anyone showing up at all for elections, and often run unopposed.
I live in a town of 5000 and we're having mayor and city council elections next week. Yeah, I'll be voting.
I tend to agree with you, but playing the devils advocate, wouldn't the enemy see people gathering by the slew on Truth and ramp up their cheating methods?
Yes because none of them ever would read any of his tweets when he was on Twitter, let alone follow him and be among the first to respond to each message from Trump.
Yes, absolutely and they won’t even remotely use the same methods as last time.
Vote because WHO THE FUCK KNOWS!
Vote so they HAVE to cheat and can't claim a legitimate election.
Vote BIG so they have to cheat BIG
Vote so they don't use your name and registration for THEIR purpose. That's like gutting your corpse and wearing you as a mask to bring in the guy that's gonna fuck you and America in the ass.
Vote to leave no doubt in your mind in conscience that you did everything the right way and are justified in every regard. Anti Trump protestors looked like clowns when they raged and when asked if they voted they'd say no.
A Vote takes literally no effort or time.
Just vote.
Glad to hear this patriot.
You can vote, sure.
Just don't be surprised when they steal it, and start to act accordingly.
Duh
I will vote but i will sure as hell raise hell about the voting machines. If dominion is being used
We have to vote but the D party has figured out how to guarantee a win every time. They don’t get the final results from their “D party string hold” until they know how many votes to manufacture
Trump won in 2016. “They did’nt think she’d lose. “ We can win! VOTE !!!!!!’
Trump won even bigger in 2020 and here we are
I feel your frustration but like I say winning global wars ain’t easy but we are winning! Sounds trite but keep the faith. We already won!
Of the four boxes I have control over two after being silenced on the soap box and not having access to the jury box. I’ll keep hitting the ballot box until I have no other option but the last box.
Yeah, and it fucking sucks to move it lol.
Dangerous disinfo then, because it could very easily backfire on us.
hardly a majority no more. we are being crumbled as time goes on. The 2 independents are really Democrats, some Republicans are useless RINOS, and the 2 Republicans we did have, we lost in another Democrap rigged election. Now what?