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Before Visoski re-takes the stand (scheduled for 14:30), Judge Nathan brings up again the unidentified juror who'd have to travel between Christmas and New Years.
Maxwell's lawyer Pagliuca: We'd like to know which juror it is, or at least if they are an alternate.
Judge Nathan: I think I have to excuse the juror, if they can't cancel or move the trip. I'll step down.
Clerk Ms. Williams: All rise!
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Judge Nathan returns and says: I asked but it seems there is no way to change or move the trip. So I have excused Juror Number 58. The other jurors are ready. Please bring the witness into the box.
Larry Visoski, in the plexiglass witness box, says, "I'm OK."
Assistant US Attorney Maurene Comey: May the witness remove his mask?
Judge Nathan: Yes.
AUSA Comey: Good more, Mister Visoski. What assistants did Mr. Epstein have other than Ms. Maxwell?
Visoski: There were many.
AUSA Comey: Did Ms. Maxwell have assistants?
Visoski: She did.
AUSA Comey: Can you name some assistants?
Visoski: There was a Kimberly and, of course, Sarah Kellen.
AUSA Comey: Is that Ms. Kellen?
[Exhibit is a woman in a bright green dress]
Visoski: Yes.
AUSA Comey: What's this?
Visoski: The entrance to Mr. Epstein's Zorro Ranch... There is a triple-wide trailer with a faux Western facade. We had a runway and a hangar for our aircraft.
AUSA Comey: How many acres was Mr Epstein's ranch?
Visoski: Ten thousand acres.
AUSA Comey: Did you ever go into the main residence.
Visoski: Yes. To pick up luggage, and install electronics. Mr. Epstein was a real audiophile. He also had a home theater with a drop-down screen. He had a little family room off to the side.
AUSA Comey: Turning now to Mr. Epstein's island, what was it called?
Visoski: Little St. James. It was a regular destination. I also flew the helicopter, from St. Thomas to Little St. James. Also, more electronics installation.
AUSA Comey: How else could you get there?
Visoski: Boat.
AUSA Comey: OK, where did you meet Ms. Maxwell?
Visoski: She had a three bedroom apartment, I installed electronics there too. Then she bought her own townhouse.
AUSA: Why did you go there?
Visoski: Luggage.
AUSA Comey: Did Ms. Maxwell ever fly the helicopter?
Visoski: Many times.
AUSA Comey: And what are these photos?
Visoski: That's Mr. Epstein in front of his plane.
[The plane is black and Epstein is standing in front of it in a yellow windbreaker, with a smile.]
AUSA Comey: For Mr. Epstein, did you ever fly to Traverse City, Michigan?
Visoski: Yes. Must have been summer or Fall, cherry season.
AUSA Comey: Where did you pick up his luggage?
Visoski: The Interlochen School of Music [Center for the Arts]
AUSA Maurene Comey: I offer into evidence this stipulation, that the dates of birth of these individuals are correct. We are submitting these under seal. Let the jurors pick up the binders under their chairs, to see the sealed exhibits. But don't open it.
Judge Nathan: And don't put them on the screen. Paper only. [Pause] I need glasses.
AUSA Comey: Government Exhibit 12... Mr. Visoski, is this the name of the female singer you remember being a passenger on Mr. Epstein's plane?
Visoski: Yes.
AUSA Comey: We'll call her Jane. How did you meet her?
Visoski: Mr. Epstein brought her to the cockpit. She had piercing powder blue eyes. AUSA Comey: Do you remember Virginia Roberts?
Visoski: Yes. A shorter woman with dirty blonde hair.
AUSA Comey: Nothing further.
Judge Nathan: You may cross examine.
Maxwell's lawyer Christian R. Everdell: You started working for Mr. Epstein with Dave Rogers, correct?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And he let you use the restroom?
Visoski: Yes. Like I need to now.
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Judge Nathan: OK, looks like it's time for our mid-morning break.
Everdell: One last question before we break - did you walk through the cabin?
Visoski: Yes, in the Gulf Stream.
Everdell: Take a break.
Clerk: All rise!
30 Min Recess
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Judge Nathan: I hope you had a pleasant and TIMELY break, jurors. You may proceed.
Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: I trust you're feeling better.
Visoski: Much better.
Everdell: So you walked through the Gulf Stream to use the restroom, correct?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: If Mr. Epstein were engaging in sex acts with underage girls he probably would have told you not to leave the cockpit, correct?
Objection!
Judge Nathan: Overruled.
Visoski: Correct.
Everdell: So this was before cell phones, and you were using beepers, correct? Visoski: Yes. I'd recognize Mr. Epstein's number.
Everdell: And you'd mostly hear about flights from Ghislaine if she was going to be on them, right?
Visoski: Mostly.
Everdell: So former President Bill Clinton flew on the plane, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And you were told to clean up.
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: But some passengers, you were never told the names, right?
Visoski: Correct.
Everdell: I want to ask you about a few specific flights. You mentioned Interlochen, the arts center. Did you know that Epstein himself attended the summer camp, when he was a child?
Visoski: I was not.
Everdell: On your flights to Interlochen, wasn't Itzhak Perlman on one?
Visoski: Yes he was.
Everdell: And Epstein had a cabin there, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And you flew Mr. Epstein to Columbus, Ohio to see Les Wexner, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And the women we're calling Jane, you knew her real name, right?
Visoski: I do.
Everdell: And beyond the striking blue eyes, you have said she had large breasts, right?
Visoski: She was a mature woman.
Everdell: I'm sorry, we're having a choreography issue.
Judge Nathan: Can we move past it without sending the jurors back into the jury room?
Everdell: Yes, as long as I can return to it.
Judge Nathan: We'll just take a five minute break now.
Clerk: All rise!
5 Min Recess
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Jury returns late.
Judge Nathan: Well at least you're getting your steps in. Please proceed.
Everdell: So there were others in Epstein's world who had the same name as the person we are calling Jane?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: Like sealed exhibit LV3a and LV3b
Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Are you familiar with Prince Andrew?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And he flew on Mr. Epstein's plane, right?
Visoski: He did.
Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Are you familiar with Annie Farmer?
Visoski: I've heard the name. But I don't know of any record.
Everdell: Put up LV4 and LV5. Mr. Visoski, do you see the documents, with names?
Visoski: Yes.
Judge Nathan: Admitted under seal.
Everdell: The person we're calling Kate, her real name is on LV4, right?
Visoski: I don't remember that name at all.
Everdell: You've mentioned Bill Clinton, Itzhak Perlman, Prince Andrew... Did Donald Trump fly on Epstein's plane?
Visoski. Yes, he did.
Everdell: And John Glenn and George Mitchell flew on Epstein's plane, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And Kevin Spacey?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: After first staying in a hotel, did Mr. Epstein put you up in an apartment?
Visoski: Yes. At 301 East 66 Street. Sarah Kellen stayed there too. And the person who's name we can't say, LV3a.
Everdell: But not Jane, right?
Visoski: I did not see Jane.
Everdell: The green sports car, who gave it to Mr. Epstein?
Visoski: Les Wexner.
Everdell: And Mr. Epstein gave you 40 acres of land in New Mexico, on which to build your home?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And he paid your two children's college tuition?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: He cared about your daughters when they were in college, right?
Visoski: And even when they were younger.
Everdell: And Mr. Epstein had back problems and needed massages, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: He used 10,000 Waves Studio in Santa Fe, yes?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And when he met him, Epstein's girl friend was Eva Andersson-Dubin, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: And Ms. Maxwell just worked for him?
Visoski: It seemed that way.
Everdell: Later, whatever personal relationship existed between Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell fizzled out, right?
Visoski: Yes, in the 2000s.
Everdell: And Epstein brought in others, like personal assistant Sarah Kellen, right?
Visoski: Yes.
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Everdell: And later Ghislaine was in a relationship with Ted Waitt, CEO of Gateway Computers, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: She introduced you to Mr. Waitt's pilot, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: Good time for a break.
Judge Nathan: Done.
Recess
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Epstein's pilot Visoski still on the stand. AUSA asks Judge to tell court arts not to sketch some witnesses.
Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, you may continue with your cross examination of Mr Visoski. And Mr. Visoski, I remind you that you are under oath.
Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: People liked to go hiking on the Zorro Ranch, right?
Visoski: Yes.
Everdell: But since there were snakes, one needed boots, right?
Visoski: Yes, that would be preferred.
Everdell: And you never saw Ghislaine looking pregnant, did you?
Visoski: I never did.
Everdell: And Ghislaine seemed like a nice person to you, did she not?
Visoski: She did.
Everdell: And you have two daughters - and you let them ride horses with Ghislaine, right?
Visoski: I did.
Everdell: You saw nothing in 30 years that made you think Mr. Epstein was an abuser, right?
Visoski: I did not.
Everdell: Nothing further.
Judge Nathan: Re-direct.
AUSA Maurene Comey: Did you let your 14 year old daughter massage Mr. Epstein?
Visoski: I did not.
AUSA Comey: Nothing further. And we call our next witness, "Jane."
Judge Nathan: I order the sketch artist not to accurately depict the witness. AUSA Comey: What is Government Exhibit 12, under seal?
"Jane" - It is my birth certificate.
AUSA Comey: How old were you when you first had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein?
Jane: 14.
AUSA: Who was in the room?
Jane: Ghislaine Maxwell.
AUSA: Do you see her here?
Jane: Yes. There. In sort of a beige turtleneck.
AUSA: She has identified the defendant.
AUSA Comey: What type of work did your father do?
Jane: He was a musical composer. Then he died of leukemia. His employer had canceled his health insurance without him knowing. We essentially went bankrupt and had to move out.
AUSA Comey: When you were at Interlochen, did you meet a couple?
Jane: Yes. The woman had a dog and the man said they were big benefactors. They asked for my mother's phone number. A landline.
AUSA Comey: When you visited, what do you remember about spending time at the pool?
Jane: There were four woman and Ghislaine, all topless and some of them were naked. I was shocked. I hadn't seen that before. Maxwell would ask me if I had boyfriends.
AUSA Comey: Did Epstein begin to pay for things for you?
Jane: Voice lessons. Clothes. Things for school.
AUSA: Did Ms Maxwell give you some advice?
Jane: That if you fck them you can always fck them, they're sort of grandfathered in. I didn't know what it meant
AUSA: What did they tell you about their social circle?
Jane: Donald Trump. Bill Clinton. Mike Wallace.
AUSA: How was the house decorated?
Jane: Art, sculptures. Pictures of famous people, presidents. I thought some of the art was odd - naked women, creepy animals
Pseudonymous witness "Jane" - Epstein took me into the pool house. He proceeded to masturbate on me. Then he went into the bathroom & cleaned himself & acted like nothing happened. I'd never seen that before.
AUSA: Did you keep spending time with them?
Jane: Yes.
Pseudonymous witness "Jane" - Jeffrey [Epstein] proceeded to masturbate again. Ghislaine was rubbing on him, kissing on him.
AUSA: How old were you?
Jane: Fourteen.
AUSA: What was Ms. Maxwell's demeanor like?
Jane: She was very casual, like this was entirely normal. I was confused. When you are 14 you have no idea what is going on.
AUSA: Did Jeffrey Epstein touch you?
Jane: Yes. Everywhere.
AUSA: Did you touch Mr. Epstein?
Jane: [pause] Everywhere.
AUSA: I'm sorry to ask you this, but did he use sex toys?
Jane: Yes. Like those back massagers. They were painful. He did it anyway.
AUSA: Did Maxwell touch your body?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: How often did these things happen?
Jane: Every time I visited his house.
AUSA: Did you travel to his other homes?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: We'll back back to that. When other people were present, how did incidents start?
Jane: Jeffrey would say, follow him.
AUSA: Follow him where?
Jane: To his bedroom. Or to the massage room. He would get on the massage table and it would sort of turn into this orgy.
AUSA: How often was Maxwell present?
Jane: I can't give a precise number.
AUSA: During the incident when you were 14, was Maxwell in the room? Jane: Yes.
AUSA: When you were 14, 15 and 16 how many times did you travel with them?
Jane: About ten times. To NYC, and New Mexico. On Jeffrey's plane.
AUSA: What kind of art work did they have?
Jane: Yes, it was weird. Animal heads. Naked women. Orgies. It didn't seem very unusual at this point.
AUSA: How did you feel, in the New York house?
Jane: Like someone was always watching you.
AUSA: What would Epstein asked you to do?
Jane: To straddle his face. To pinch his nipples.
AUSA: Were there times that Maxwell was present?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: In the NY house, where did this happen?
Jane: In the massage room.
AUSA: On the trip to New Mexico, where did you spend most of your time?
Jane: On the ranch. It was in the middle of nowhere.
AUSA: Did anyone come into your room?
Jane: Yes. Someone came in and said, Jeffrey wants to see you and escorted me to see him.
Jane (sobbing) I did not want to go see him.
AUSA: Who told you Epstein wanted to see you?
Jane: Don't know. I had to fly back to Florida to go to school. I took a commercial flight. But I was only 15 and didn't even have a [drivers] learner's permit.
Jane: So I couldn't get on the flight back to Florida, having no ID. I freaked out. But Maxwell helped solve it. She talked to someone & I got on the plane.
AUSA: What was your home life like at the time?
Jane: We were losing our home. We moved into a pool house.
Jane: My mom was enamored by the idea that these affluent people were taking an interest in me --
Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Hearsay!
AUSA: It's for the effect on the listener.
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Judge Nathan: You may ask that question. But not what the mother said.
AUSA: Could we approach?
Judge Nathan: The jurors' snacks are here. Let's take a 10 minute break.
10 Min Recess
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[CONTINUED PART 2]
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Judge Nathan: Jurors, you will hear what the witness' mother said. That is not offered for the truth of the matter asserted, but for the impact on the witness. You may proceed.
AUSA: What did your mother say?
Jane: That I should be grateful for their attention.
AUSA: Did you tell your siblings about the abuse?
Jane: No. I was ashamed. And I had a manic-depressed mother who didn't know how to cope. [sobs] It seemed hopeless.
Jane: I spoke to my school guidance counselor, who then called my mother. My mother told me, You don't talk about what happens at home and embarrass us.
AUSA: Jane, what kind of work do you do now?
Jane: I am still an actor. I got work in LA. But I didn't know how to trust, how to reciprocate.
AUSA: When did you stop being in touch with Jeffrey Epstein?
Jane: In 2002. I fell in love with someone.
Jane: Epstein kept calling me and saying he wanted to see me, that I needed to be grateful to him, that my mother was living in one of his apartment. Do you want me to continue?
AUSA: Was that the last time?
Jane: Yes.
AUSA: Later did you tell the man I'll call Matt about Epstein?
Jane: Yes. Not in detail. But I did. By then you saw Epstein on the TV all the time. He had been arrested.
AUSA: Did the FBI interview you in September 2019?
Jane: Yes.
Jane: May 2019.
AUSA: Did you sue Ghislaine Maxwell?
Jane: Yes. In 2020.
AUSA: And the Epstein Victims' Fund?
Jane: Yes. They awarded me $5 million. Of that, I got approximately $2.9 million.
AUSA: Would the verdict in this case impact that?
Objection!
Sidebar.
They're back.
AUSA: Would a verdict here impact that?
Jane: No.
Judge Nathan: This is not a legal opinion.
AUSA: Why do you want to be anonymous?
Jane: Because I work in Hollywood and victim shaming is still the norm.
AUSA: No further questions.
Judge Nathan: Ms. Menninger you may cross examine.
Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: You waited 20 years to complain, correct?
Jane: Correct.
Menninger: Two full decades before your first report to the police. By then Mr. Epstein was dead, correct?
Jane: Correct.
Menninger: And you had two personal injury attorneys with you. Mr. Glaxman and Mr. Workman. And AUSA Moe.
Jane: Yes.
Menniger: In the 20 years, you spoke to several people close to you. To the person we're referring to as Matt. Your sister Camilla-
Objection!
There is a sidebar.
Now they return.
Menninger: You told one of your older sisters, right?
Jane: Right.
Menninger: But you didn't mention Ghislaine Maxwell, correct?
Jane: I don't know.
Menninger: You have four older sibling?
Jane: One older sibling, three older half siblings.
Menninger: Show the witness 3509-008.
Objection! She'd just reading document not in evidence. She can refresh -
Menninger: I'm not refreshing, I'm impeaching.
Judge Nathan: Well, you're not impeaching yet, Ms. Menninger. The objection is sustained. I'm going to reach the document to myself.
Menninger: You told Ms. Moe you lived in the same house --
US: Objection! No foundation.
Menninger: I wasn't going to ask for the street address, I was going to ask if she knows it, where the country club is.
Jane: I don't know. I've never been to a country club.
Menninger: I'd like to show the witness another sealed document.
Jane: I recognize my mother's signature and mine. But I don't recognize the document.
Menninger: What do you believe this document to be?
AUSA: Objection!
Judge Nathan: Sustained.
Menninger: How about this page?
Judge Nathan: You should do this on paper, I always thought that was a better idea, not the screen. So this is J-5? And the question is, do you recognize the document?
Jane: I do. It's the application for Interlochen camp.
Menninger: And is your signature on the 2d page?
Jane: Yes. It's dated 5/7/94.
Menninger: Before you met Jeffrey Epstein, right? Did you apply for financial aid or scholarship?
AUSA: Let them offer it into evidence. Under seal.
Judge Nathan: So ordered.
Menninger: You did not apply for aid.
Jane: I guess not. I was a child.
Judge Nathan: It's 5 o'clock and we're going to break.
Clerk: All rise!
Jury leaves.
Judge Nathan: No communication on substance between US and witness, since she's under cross. Be seated.
Judge Nathan: We have some matters to take up.
AUSA: The defense never showed up these documents. It violated Rule 16. Maxwell's lawyer: The rule does not apply.
AUSA: Then it's not admissible.
Judge Nathan: It's one page of J-36? How does it impeach?
Defense: It shows the street she lives on.
Judge Nathan: It's a current photo. It is not impeaching.
AUSA: It's in violation of Rule 16. We would ask that the Court direct them to produce it forthwith.
Defense: But today's we've seen, and you've admitted, a photo of the Epstein home today.
Judge Nathan: But they had a witness saying it's fair and accurate representation.
AUSA: We'll brief it. [and we'll report on it]
Judge Nathan: Both sides should put in letters by 9 pm (2am GMT) tonight. Now we have to deal with the identifying information.
AUSA: We will speak with the defense about it, this evening.
Judge Nathan: The witness is on cross, do you agree they can talk to her? Then raise it to me in a letter tonight.
AUSA: We'll confer right after the court day today and submit letters by 10 pm (3am GMT).
Judge Nathan: Fine.
AUSA: "Matt" will be the next witness.
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Judge Nathan: So I'll await your letter today.
Court Adjourned.
Nice job! The MSM is going to be forced to report all of this. It is going to get out there, and if they don't report on it they will have questions to answer for it, and lots of them.
[EXTRA DETAILS c/o Adam Klasfeld]
The government just called the witness known by the pseudonym "Jane." Her story loomed large during the prosecution's opening statement.
Epstein's pilot remembered her as the girl with the "piercing powder blue eyes."
Judge Nathan just instructed the courtroom sketch artists not to depict her. Reminder:
The U.S. Attorney's office has requested that reporters observe journalism ethics norms not to ID people who say they're survivors of sexual assault.
"Jane" just said that she was sexually assaulted by Epstein "more than once" when she was 14 years old. Asked who was most frequently in the room when she says Jeffrey Epstein sexually assaulted her, she replies: "Ghislaine Maxwell."
A photograph of her at the age of 13 is submitted under seal. She testifies about her father's death from leukemia, her family's economic difficulties and then pivots to her studies at Interlochen, a renowned arts academy in Michigan.
(Epstein's pilot talked about this camp in the morning session. Prosecutors alluded to it in openings.) "Jane" is describing meeting Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein for the first time. "Jane," describing her thoughts the first time she metEpstein and Maxwell:
"They seemed very friendly. I thought they were a married couple. They seemed very inquisitive." Asked how she would go to Epstein's house, "Jane" says: "Jeffrey would send his chauffeur for me."
Q: Did you have a driver's license at the time? A: No. "Jane" recalls visiting Epstein's pool and seeing "at least four women and Ghislaine," remembering them being "topless." "Some" of them were naked, she said.
She recalls Maxwell telling her:
"Once you've fucked them, you can always fuck them again because they've been grandfathered in."
"Jane" recalls laughing because she didn't know what the word "grandfathered" meant. "Jane" gives some examples of famous people they boasted about being associated with: "Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Mike Wallace." She says she was 14 years old when she first had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein.
Q: Can you describe to the jury what happened when he took you inside the pool house? She says he pulled his sweatpants down, pulled her on top of him, "proceeded to masturbate on me" and then left.
"I was frozen with fear," she says. "I had never seen a penis before." Another instance, she says that Epstein and Maxwell started to fondle each other and casually giggling about it in front of her.
"Jane" says she was 14 at the time. Asked how Epstein liked to be massaged, "Jane" says that he liked to be massaged "hard" — "twisting his nipples hard, rubbing his feet hard," she says. "Jane": "It's all these mixed emotions when you're 14. You don't know what is going on."
"He would touch my breasts. He would touch my vagina."
Q: Did you touch Epstein's body? A: Yes.
Q: Where did you touch his body? A: Everywhere.
The prosecutor, apologizing for having to ask the q-, asks about Epstein and sex toys.
"Jane": "He liked to use vibrators, which were of different sizes. He liked to use the back massagers, which were really painful."
"He would put it on my vagina, even if I said that it hurt." "Jane" says that other people were sometimes present during her abuse.
"She would start taking her clothes off, and Jeffrey would get on the massage table." And it would turn into this "orgy." "Jane" testifies that she was also abused in New York.
"If it wasn't an orgy in the massage room, it was in Jeffrey's bedroom," where she says she would typically be alone with him, "Jane" says. This abuse also happened when she was 14, 15 and 16, she adds. She gets audibly emotional saying: "I felt my heart sinking into my stomach."
Asked why, she voice cracks as she replies: "Because I didn't want to see him."
Brief, 10-minute recess.
She said her mother was "enamored" of this idea that "these wealthy, affluent people took an interest in me."
"They must think I'm special, and I should be grateful about the attention that I'm receiving." She says she didn't tell her mother about any sexual abuse because she felt ashamed, thought it was her fault, and was in a household when you didn't speak unless spoken to.
"I was afraid that I would be in trouble if I said something," she says. Assistant U.S. Attorney Alison Moe asks her if she considered self-harm. She replies yes, her voice cracking as she describes things seeming "hopeless."
She spoke to a school guidance counselor about her sadness, she said. She said her mother slapped her and told her she shouldn't tell anyone about her feelings and what's going on at home. "Jane" about Maxwell and Epstein's attention: "Initially, I felt special. I didn't have much support or attention at home." Asked about the long-term impacts of her experiences with Epstein and Maxwell, "Jane" asks: "How do you navigate a healthy relationship with a broken compass?"
"I didn't know what real love was supposed to look like."
"It ruined my self-esteem, my self-worth," she adds later. "Jane," on why she is testifying anonymously:
"Victim shaming is still very present until this day."
Cross-examination begins
The first question, summarized, is: You waited 20 years to report to law enforcement? The defense attorney is asking a series of questions about where "Jane" lived and where she went to school. She appears to be trying to undercut testimony about her family's financial struggles when she says she met Maxwell and Epstein.
Court adjourned
Cross-examination continues on Wednesday.
Amazing work and time you are putting into this, thank you.
TLDR version?
You are asking for a TLDR of the TLDR cmon bruh
It took me less than 10 minutes to read. Do yourself a favor and read it unfiltered.
20 years of orgies with little kids.
Thanks for this Patriot…an amazing amount of work. I’m sure everybody’s grateful 😎👍🏽
Yes we are!
You did an excellent job. Thank you - the details already sicken me. Can't fathom how much worse it is going get, even though I already know. JE and GM are disgusting pieces of crap.
Excellent effort, fren. May the hammer fall . . . .
things usually don't go "well" when DS actors wish someone well... maybe he was trolling?
Did anyone else double take at that? kek
I went back and reread to make sure
outstanding post!
Cheers patriot great work.
If I was the juror, I’d say fuck that trip!
I think that juror just wants out of the trial.
Coward. Poor thing can’t handle the truth?
I think it has more to do with some people not wanting to join the circus. These high profile cases can really disrupt a juror's life.
One of the most powerful men in the world was suicided over this. I don’t blame a juror for not wanting to be suicided as well
A thought of something. I know the relationship between prosecutor and a DS name, but could this possibly be a Comey we could trust?
I'm not convinced yet, but there's no evidence to the contrary, either.
I'm right there with ya. The name brings immediate distrust, for good reason, but at the moment she certainly doesn't seem to be going about prosecution in a manner indiciative of trying to paint Maxwell in a good light. We'll see if things continue this way...
Her not having the pilot clarify what flight(s) Trump was on seems to indicate she is more than happy to have people thing Trump was on flights to the island.
My thoughts exactly
She was the same person in charge of investigating the missing security video of Epstein’s cell during his death. Nothing ever came of that and it is still officially classified as a suicide.
Bro, wow, keep this up - you are a fucking hero for posting all of this on here. Just to keep it on record on a .win is huge. Thank you.
There is already enough testimony here to convict Maxwell for many counts of statutory rape. The only issue is whether the jury finds "Jane" credible. If so, then Maxwell will be guilty.
Maxwell and her attorney see the risk clearly. She must be afraid of going to prison for life. This is about when her attorney starts plea bargaining.
Thats why the entire defense is memory experts to discredit any and all witness testimony.
They know they cant really fight it, so their only choice is to try and discredit the hell outta them.
Thanks for your invaluable service!
Everdell: I'm sorry, we're having a choreography issue
What the actual f does that mean in this instance?
From https://www.mcmanislaw.com/blog/2017/choreography-for-the-courtroom---part-two-the-performance
The rehearsals are over and the morning of the big performance has arrived. Emotions are high and the anxiety in the air is thick. It is time to execute what you have been practicing and hope you receive a standing ovation from the crowd, or in this case a judgment in your favor from the judge or jury. Here are a few tips to keep your performance on point as the trial unfolds:
FOLLOW YOUR LEADER The attorneys are the lead actor and choreographer of your show. What they say goes. When presenting exhibits digitally during trial you will run into issues with objections from opposing counsel about displaying images or documents before a foundation is laid for the document. It is important to follow your attorney’s lead and not to pull exhibits off the screen or put them up until instructed to do so. This ensures that the attorney is in control of what is displayed or not displayed during their case – not you or opposing counsel. When a judge makes a ruling on displaying an exhibit, you should still wait for your attorney to give you confirmation to remove or display the exhibit. By not making hasty moves after a ruling, you and the attorney can get back on the same page before moving forward.
BE THE LIAISON In theater, sometimes your lead actor needs to be able to focus on their role and not get distracted socializing with their other cast members. In trial, this may become true between your attorney and the client. It is always good to know from your attorney if they can juggle the responsibility of client management at the same time as trial presentation. If your attorney prefers to focus on the case then the paralegal needs to be ready to jump in and keep the client calm and happy while the attorney works their magic. This is not a knock on the client, but instead a strategic move to ensure that the client gets the best results possible. Make sure the client knows you have nothing but their best interest at heart and that is why they may or may not have contact with the attorney directly during the court proceedings. In the end, if the attorney can focus on the case and present a strong and well supported argument with no distractions then everybody wins!
BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING Be prepared for a witness to make a statement that sends your case flying in a different direction than initially planned. This means that different exhibits maybe used during direct or cross-examination and you will have to be quick to ensure your presentation is seamless even though it is different than what you had practiced. Teamwork with your attorney will play a huge factor in your ability to go along with these changes as though they were planned. Make sure you have an open line of communication from the beginning of trial preparation with your attorney and that you are on the same page when it comes to the case. Once you are in synch, the two of you can begin to develop non-verbal or short statement cues to use at trial. These non-verbal or short statement cues will be instrumental in keeping both of you on track with the new plan without alerting the judge, jury or opposing counsel to the sudden change in plans.
Just like in theater, the show must go on even when the trial is not going the way you thought it would. By ensuring good communication with your attorney from the beginning and knowing your exhibits, paralegals can give a brilliant performance regardless of the circumstances. Trial preparation can be a crazy time but once you put all the pieces together, it really is fun to watch your attorney display their brilliance on the trial stage and know that you were an integral part of the performance. Stay calm and remember to have some fun!
Emily Brady is a paralegal at McManis Faulkner. She assists attorneys in all practice areas. Throughout discovery and trial preparation, she supports the legal teams with research and documentation and is also called upon to help with case management and scheduling. Outside of the office, Emily can be seen singing and dancing in local theatre productions
And I'm curious why he was asked if Dave allowed him to use the restroom, then he responded yes like I need to now. It seems like an out of place question, almost seems like a code.
Am I the only one seeing that the prosecutor SUCKS ass?
Like father like daughter. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Big shout out to OP. This is the fastest way to digest this case, you’re doing God’s work! 👌🏻
Where did this come from if you don't mind me asking good sirs
Inner City News and Adam Klasfeld (Twitter)
I meant like link wise bro thx anyway
Thank you for taking he time to post this. Much appreciated!
This is gripping! I wish I was a juror! Hard to imagine the kid that keeps returning but they’re so young that they don’t see that it can end AND her Mother is dumb as a stick!😡
I think it is an excellent example though of how people like this choose their victims. The mother was ID'd to be the vulnerable one due to her being a recent widow, their financial situation, etc. Not excusing it, because she really failed her daughter. And on a certain level, I think she knows that and can't face it.
Noticed the defense is trying to out the witness by slyly saying the older sister's name.
Thank you StenogAnon!
I've been to 10000 waves in Santa Fe. Not for massages, hot and cold soaks in winter. Great stuff
so trump did fly on the plane? did we already know this?
Yes he readily told FBI when they were first investigating Epstein. Never went to Little St. James though - those are the real flight logs we want to see.
We knew he got on a flight in one of epstein's planes to catch a ride from Florida to NYC
Yep had been known, he did not travel to little st James island like the vast majority of other passengers though
Yes.
NB: Not difficult to find.
May I ask who here?
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Its also worth noting thats shes a professional actor
Yeah that's a no doubter. She had to know it was going to leak.
Shes bragging about getting her five year old jabbed on Twitter.