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whats with this whole "trump isnt our savoir" BS? im starting to see this exact talking point pop up in a few places. like no. Desantis needs to stay in florida (media.greatawakening.win)
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– WhyAserverWasBuilt 59 points 3 years ago +59 / -0

It's a republican establishment narrative.

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– catchlightning 40 points 3 years ago +40 / -0

This, and it makes DeSantis even more questionable

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– thephantom1979 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

I don't trust Ron 100%. I just cannot trust Lawyers.

They are shills for rich people. Lawyers exist to protect the assets of rich people. They also exist to find ways to use the legal system to STEAL the assets of other people.

Ron is doing what he is doing. Simply because Trump is in FL.

Take a look at all the other red states. None of them are doing what Ron is doing.

That's because Trump doesn't live in their state.

If Trump was in Texas.

I bet the governor there would be a DeSantis type.

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– ChronicMetamorphosis 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Your intuition is correct. Let me tell you something that bothers me about DeSantis.

Trump left and went silent for a bit, but did you notice DeSantis during that period? He started talking like Trump and using the same hand gestures. It felt phoney, but we were so starving for a win that I think many didn't notice.

As soon as the talking point became DeSantis instead of Trump, all the Never Trumpers I knew jumped on the DeSantis train. I knew something was up.

Then I found out about his Yale secret society ties to The St Elmo Society. St Elmo was one of the oldest fraternities at Yale aside from Skull and Bones. Again, I wanted to remain hopeful, but the phoniness on camera made me do a gut check.

His name used to be listed on the Wikipedia page for St Elmo Society, but it has been removed. Why would it need to be removed?

I dont trust him. He could very well be Mike Pence 2.0


  • Archived Wikipedia article from 2021

Be sure to look under the "Membership" section.


  • Wikipedia article from today

Poof. He's gone from the Membership section now.


According to FBCoverup.com, it was changed on May 16, 2022, 1:52pm EST). You can see their pdf here

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– thephantom1979 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I am glad I am not the only one that noticed how Ron now moves his hands like Trump.

This is for surely coached.

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– CirclebackGinger 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yup, I’m sorry. I don’t trust anyone who was previously a politician. He says things that sound great and he does things that seem great. However, I don’t trust that he would keep it up in Washington and I also think there’s something to be said that Trump lives in Florida. I need to research Ron’s voting record while he was in Washington. That’s always VERY telling. Don’t listen to their words, look at and believe their voting record. If I remember a childhood proverb correctly I believe it says that in so many words “actions speak louder than words”.

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

While in DC Ron voted for TPP and to grant Fast Track Authority; something Trump was railing against when Ron voted for it.

As an ambitious young career politician from Florida, after Trump crushed both Jeb and Rubio in Florida then became President, the savvy move was to align with rather than openly oppose Trump.

Rons backed by Wall Street, Hedge Funders, Koch Bros, the Chamber of Commerce that reps Multi National Globalists and Team Bush who belonged to the same Yale frat he did. In contrast to Trump, only about 6% of Rons money comes from small donors.

As Florida's Guv he's ok because his success depends on him being Trumpian at a state level. However as POTUS, he'd be a Bush/Rubio.

That's why early this year Establishment CONservative Inc, including Benji Shapiro, started hyping Ron as a better choice than Trump for 2024. Hyping Ron is a passive aggressive way to undermine Trump while pretending to be MAGA.

Since MAGA is still young, once they take out Trump; the creator, leader and protector of the MAGA Movement, they can infiltrate and co opt it like they did the Tea Party.

I try to pay attention to the Establishment Cons anti Trump/pro Ron narratives so I can develop counters. Sundance at The Conservative Treehouse is a great resource. I read his Twitter thread each day on the news aggregator site Rantingly.com and highly recommend that others do too.

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– CirclebackGinger 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Wow! I’m sorry, I’ve been out of the country (US) and I’m just now catching up on GAW. Thank you for your explanation and taking the time to break it down! I’ve always been skeptical of Ron since he was in Congress before being governor and it’s nice to know I’m not completely crazy for questioning him. ☺️ I can’t wait to share all of this with my coworker b/c we’re always debating whether Ron really is like Trump or a “Rino in MAGA clothing” like so many are in the Republican Party.

What are your thoughts about Kari Lake? I don’t know anything about her donors and I know some people have been skeptical b/c she used to vote Democrat and voted for Obama, but if I’m remembering correctly, she’s never held a political office position before and that gets my potential support faster than anything else. She was in the news media, which is almost as bad as being a politician 😆, but it was more on a local level and it seems like she left the media over them becoming straight propaganda pushers. So far, I like her better than Ron and would trust her as Vice President/President over him, buuutt I generally never fully trust politicians so we’ll see. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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– Dashmoomoo 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Interesting.

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– WhoBuiltTheCagesJOOO 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You shouldn’t trust any politician, ever. Light shining on them, always.

It’s the only way.

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– CirclebackGinger 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This! 👍🏻

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– LBTrumplican2 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

They are pushing DeSantis because they think he will be easier to manipulate. Trump is a brick wall to the RINOs' agendas. That doesn't mean DeSantis is one of them.

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– Riggs99 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

There was some stuff about quietly adding in laws to force jabs on people. Red flag laws etc.

MAGA is Trump. There is no Republican party worth a damn. There is MAGA and then everyone else.

But after 6 more years of Trump...Kari Lake is fire....and Trump did say she was going to be the greatest govenor in the US not 'in the top with Desamtis'. But the greatest. And she certainly acts like it.

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– CirclebackGinger 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

IIRC, she’s never been a politician before like Trump. Her run for Governor is her first political race just like when Trump ran for president. I’m all about the newbies. Give us more non-politicians and take the dried up, milk toast people back, we don’t want them anymore. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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– AlgaeBanquet 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes! She's a future president for this exact reason.

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– FlySciFiGuy 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I don’t think it makes Desantis questionable. Is he perfect? No, but he’s doing a heck of a lot more than any other governor (I’m unfortunately stuck with Abbot).

Yes the establishment is gunning for Desantis, but I think it’s out of sheer desperation to get someone other than Trump in control of the GOP. They’re just asking themselves: “who is the most popular conservative who isn’t Trump?” And going with it. No strategy, pure desperation. And unless I’ve missed something, I haven’t seen much of Desantis sucking up to GOPe. I don’t think it’s his fault RINOs are trying to use him to get rid of Trump.

TL;DR: Desantis is probably good and should stay where he’s doing his best work: in Florida. Trump deserves the WH and leadership of the GOP, but that doesn’t require throwing Desantis under the bus.

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Rons "doing a heck of alot more than any other governor".

Are you sure of that? Perhaps you've been lead to believe this by Ron hyping Conservative media who also ignore or minimize what's going on in other states?

Con Media tends to go for feels over reals just like most media does. They want to make people emotionally attached to a politician and their image rather than attached to their actual policies and ability to achieve them.

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– Strelnieks 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

It's the doomer T_D r/conspiracy narrative. They've been parroting this exact "way of thinking" for a few yrs now.

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– yldngo 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Correct. This is an attempt to infiltrate and establish a narrative because they have no other option to play. Cast Trump as a anti-Christ narcissist. Try to tie him to bad things. Tell us we should distance ourselves from him. Promote whoever might be our next option for the time being. This glows.

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– AwakeJesusisComing21 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

A way to cause division in the Patriot community.

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– Peekay8 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Exactly. If we stay alert to division tactics, we will see the every day. I notice them constantly.

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– MAG768720 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

It's the never-Trump RINO's.

He won the 2016 election.

He won the 2020 election.

He will win again.

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– ZerroDefex 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Anytime someone brings up DeSantis over Trump for 2024 I tell them to just come out as fair-weather fake MAGA already.

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– ChronicMetamorphosis 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

My response is to agree:

Definitely DeSantis for Floridas Guv in 2024. MAGA needs more MAGA states and more MAGA governors if we're going to drastically reduce the size and power of DC. And Rons inspiring example as a state guv helps make that happen.

Since the kids only 43 years old, only people who secretly want to undermine MAGA would be pushing him out of Florida so quickly and trying to convince good hearteds to help them.

Finally I add my Trump Swamp Removal Insurance counter narrative:

No matter what the Swamp does there are only two choices for POTUS in 2024:

TRUMP 2024 or TRUMP 2024. Father or Son. Eric or Don. Four more years or eight.

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– thephantom1979 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

That’s because the Establishment wants another lawyer in office. Ron would be pressured to take the sides of all these others lawyers.

They don’t want Trump because he can’t be controlled by them!

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– Vapourface 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Reminder that DeSantis entered the stage literally impersonating Trump mannerisms. He has dialled it back now a bit, but at first I thought he wanted the SNL gig. Can you fully trust someone who does that, knowing that it is a technique of influence being deployed?

Caution with DeSantis, and especially this angle. Trump originated the style, DeSantis merely uses it.

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– MarkusCincinnatus 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

“He lured his supporter to Washington DC and then let them rot in jail without a word.”

Everyone knows it’s illegal to go to Washington DC.

“If you are still caught up on Trump, it's because you're trapped in ideological thinking and/or celebrity worship.”

Most of the social pressure that I’ve already resisted and laughed at was more sophisticated than this attempt.

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– Cozette 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Notice the mind reading psychiatrist technique used in this psyop; if you still support Trump "its because you're still tRaPpEd in ideological thinking and/or cEleBriTy wOrsHiP".

And of course, they just want to help free Trumpies by getting them to support the sane choice, Florida's 43 year old Guv, Ron. 😂😂😂😂

#Cult45

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– AngelCole 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Jesus is my Savior. PDJT is working as an anointed for The Lord to do His work on earth.🙏 I feel like maybe PDJT was telling us Desantis is a rino by including him in a group of known RINOS. Either that or he's just giving Ron cover.

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– PaulRevere01 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

https://litter.catbox.moe/xycj6x.jpeg

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– 1Markseeker 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

...and Desantis supports Trump. Sooooo

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

How are you defining "support"?

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– TaQo 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

"Dear 'Republican' commenter - suck our collective big dick".

Trump was never our savior...but he IS still, 100% legally our commander in chief and president. That's a fact. It's all spelled out in EOs, ceremonial military actions and understanding that all the drama you see coming out of the 'democracy' of a foreign territory, aka DC, is theatre. 2 presidents for two territories...one is a shit hole democracy and the other is our constitutional republic. Guantanamo is expanding as we speak...2023 could be the year all your dirt bag crooks get a vacation there.

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– MICHIGANisRED 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I hope you plug in your phone. Don't want to miss anything here on GAW.

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– Recyclops 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Narrative and Messaging provided by "Shills, Haters, Idiots & Trolls INC."

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– youknowthething76 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Give me Trump or give me death

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– RealCleanUpPhilly 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The war against the great options is a tactic of divide and conquer. It's a shill narrative since there is no indication DeSantis is running for another office.

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– Oblakhan 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Fuck these assholes. Trump owns the Republican party and they know it. If Desantis is a plant he'll announce his run for President, and then you'll know to run from him.

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– UnidentifiedWhiteMan 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Obvious division tactic.

Also being pushed by MOSSAD AJ.

Ron's already said he won't run against Trump.

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– ravonaf 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Fuck those RINO pieces of shit. No. It's Trump or bust. There is NO ONE else I trust.

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– Caprica777 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I’ve been seeing a lot of conservative talking heads lately going cold on Trump.

Really pisses me off.

The only one I know for sure is full MAGA is Bongino. There must be others?

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– JSSS 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I live in Florida and dont want to loose Desantis. Maybe in 2028 though.............

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– Marius 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Trying to make trouble.

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– FlySciFiGuy 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Literally no one was saying that Trump is our savior before this, at least certainly not in the biblical sense. He’s definitely done more to save us from the Deep State than any other president before, but again, not the same thing.

The people saying “Trump isn’t our savior” are fighting a mindset that doesn’t exist. Truly bizarre.

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– photobuf 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Divide the MAGA----same democrat/rino BS

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– FondueFerret 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Trump isn't our savior. We can only be saved through Christ. That being said... Why did Trump support the vaccines and hasn't rescinded his support since? Why didn't Trump pardon at the least, Assange? He was asked to on numerous occasions and there is 0 doubt about Assange being a hero and kept incarcerated in horrific circumstances under no real charges? Why hasn't Trump spoken out about the J6 prisoners more? We have to be able to answer these questions honestly and to our best ability - especially because it's Trump! The man is not infallible, he is no God (as far as I know), so we must be honest with ourselves.

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– Notimportant81 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Did you read the post and comments about China dust? Opens the door for expanded thinking.

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– FondueFerret 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Is that the self-assembling nano material? I may have seen it. What expansion of possibilities here did you have in mind ?

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– Notimportant81 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nope. Different. China dust.

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– FondueFerret 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well, alright. Are you going to elaborate or did it not have anything to do with the questions we need to answer about Trump?

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– Notimportant81 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't know how to copy and paste on this phone. Just search china dust and two threads come up.

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"We have to".

No " we" dont and neither do you.

"We can only be saved through Christ".

If you actually believe this then at this point in our war with the forces of evil wouldn't you be totally focused on praying for Trump and increasing your ability to allow God to work with you and through you 24/7 rather than playing armchair general?

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"We must be honest with ourselves".

Please practice what you preached. Focus on you. Pray for everyone else.

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– FondueFerret 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nonsense. We must be honest about Trump, otherwise we are a personality cult. If you disagree with this and think we should turn a blind eye when it comes to Trump and his shortcomings, you're delusional.

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– Misschelle 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I like Kari Lake

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– PaulRevere01 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I like tacos and samies can you make me sum... bahahaha

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– magavoices 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have a flow chart for figuring out who I can trust.

Is the name Trump? No? Ok, I don't trust them.

I might tolerate them. I might even vote for them if they're the best option. But trust? No.

When the dust settles, I expect the military to leave us with a system that doesn't require us to trust politicians because there are multiple layers of checks preventing them from abusing power.

In the meantime, Trump is the only option.

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– TrumpLovinChildOfGod 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Listen closely to everything…this is the new Republican Party Narrative. The UniParty is coming out from under their veil of deception, and you can see it everywhere! I call them on it quite regularly!

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– FreedomFlowerDelta 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

GEOTUS EternaI

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– Pbman2 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't trust him,looks like they are building him up.

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– NavVetMN 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Divide and conquer, sounds like the old playbook, divide race, divide religion, divide the sexes, divide the children from the family, divide by class, divide political affiliation, divide men and women, divide the family unit. and on and on

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– VetforTrump 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Who is this clown, I've seen the most liberal people I've known that he was a good president on the economy. Couple liberals who retired young because of trumps economy are now seeking work again. Also, I'm not a republican an and never will be again.

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"Conservatives aren't as smart as they'd like to believe".

Amen. From my experience, MAGA former Bernie bros and OG liberal truth seekers are faaaar more savvy about most of Trumps issues. They only lag behind on some cultural issues that, before Trump, were the only issues Conservatives seemed to be focused on.

Conservatives often totally ignored all the things OG liberals were rightfully concerned about like Deep State corruption, the Surveillance State post the Patriot Act, Big Pharma, Big Ag, Multi National Corps etc.

When we listen to each other and work together we are an amazing team.

#GandalfTrump #WWG1WGA

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– Ltlgeneral64 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You're not even a GOOD troll.... Must be lowering starting troll pay... It shows...

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– Yungsheets 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

PJW on YouTube just uploaded a video where he polled his viewers and In that Trump won by a small margin.

I think a lot of people are worried about Trumps age.

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They're worried about Trumps age because they're being psyoped to worry about Trumps age.

Genetically, Trumps 70s are most peoples 50s. In other words, physically, hes in his prime especially because he never drank, smoked or did drugs.

Mentally, like all high IQ inquisitives, Trumps also kicking into his mental super saiyon phase. Now is when everything he's learned and experienced starts coming together. Its a time of endless insights, light bulb moments and Eurekas.

Finally, like some creative geniuses throughout history, Trump actually THRIVES on 4 hours of sleep a night and working the other 20 hours. That's just how he's wired. These rare geniuses also seem to be uniquely optimistic and to come alive when under stress that would shatter most people.

Muh "worried about his age". If talking about the 43 year old Florida kid, Ron, then me too. I'm worried about his youth AND his lack of experience. Among other things.

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– Yungsheets 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Hey I was just relaying the message I didn't say I agreed with the sentiment lol

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They'll demonize anyone running as a Republican even if they're a Uniparty Republican like Bush, McCain or Romney.

The difference is the demonization of Uni party Republicans will be a scripted WFW show to con the voters. They won't actually try to DESTROY a Uniparty Republican like they are Trump who poses a REAL threat to the Swamp.

People will either decide to return to fake political feels provided by career politician actors or theyll stick with reals If they want reals, than thats ONLY Trump or one of his sons at this point in our war.

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