This is a preemptive warning that I will be treating any "Juan O Larpin" type comments the same as we do "Two Weeks" comments.
If you cannot raise your analysis to the level of Game Theory, and the Moves and Countermoves of the Deep State and Q Team, then do not comment.
If you have a legitimate counter-analysis to what Juan and Nino are discussing, please share your thoughts, but do so constructively, and avoid low effort character attacks.
Osavin and the dolts around him have been making grandiose claims and datef-fagging so hard for so long I'm surprised anyone here takes anything they say seriously.
I'll rag on Juan O'Larpin all I want because he has outright peddled bad information before which turned out to be dead wrong in retrospect. I'll wait until he actually has a good track record of his information being solid then I can take him seriously.
Since when are we commanded by moderators to accept non-anons word as fact unless we can do an in-depth study of their current content?
Challenge accepted, I guess.
At 1:14 Juan makes a statement of fact, Trump can now be prosecuted because of paperwork he personally saw was "signed".
I'm sorry, but statements of fact like this with zero sauce are not valid. It's a major "trust me bro" statement that could have been elaborated on for so much more ...
What kind of document, filed where? Some Judge? What court or jurisdiction?
How does he have access to such a type of document?
Does he believe this because he saw it himself, or did someone tell him about it?
What is the agenda of the person who told them this?
Don't know. Sauce not provided.
If the answers to the above questions are "sorry that info is too secret and would get people in trouble", then he shouldn't have been stating it in the first place.
At 5:35 Juan states that FBI coordinated with Trump two weeks prior to him being raided, that Trump brought them in and showed them how everything was being stored at Mar a Lago.
What a major "trust me bro" statement of fact. Literally no one else I'm aware of has made such a statement? What is Juan's connection to Trump in that he's the only one in the world who was privy to such information?
How convenient for Juan that every statement of fact he makes is completely non-verifiable.
And here is where the danger comes in.
People who love Juan simply assume he's part of the Q team, because that's the only way he could know these things is if he has insider access. They assume he's the voice of Q because he's an insider and he's somehow been given permission to spill the beans on all this super-insider stuff.
People are well within their full rights to call Juan a larp, based on the above alone.
Now, why are mods stickying non-anons and demanding that we listen to them before we can criticize them? I already knew Juan makes wild statements of fact that are non-verifiable (by design). Why did I have to completely set aside all my prior well-informed opinion about Juan and listen to his current drivel in order to respond to him?
The Q movement is about information, not celebrity. Demanding we accept the word of a celebrity is the antithesis to the anon movement.
The last few days its been mostly mods pinning their own posts with a very select few daily posts peppered in. It could be argued they are steering the conversation(s). Now we're being told to not voice opposition.
Thank you Chron. Many of us detest unwaivering Paytriot cheerleading. It's good to know we have at least one mod who isn't drinking their kool aid and approaches the content with questions rather than blind acceptance.
How about anyone (Mods AND general Juan Supporters) posting his drivel be required to post sauce supporting the said content?
The problem is there would be no Juan posts.
Thinking strategically, IF in fact Juan has insider info…and IF he is on the Q team (or has ties to it) and he is out here telling us Patriots and any normie who’ll listen how the hotdogs are being made THEN that’s just a dumb plan.
Why on earth would you alert the enemy to your weaknesses and vulnerabilities?
And if he’s “leaking” this “real world info I know cuz I’m an insider bro” then he is in fact a traitor to the cause….and remind me never to include Juan in a bank robbing heist cuz he’d get us all caught.
What a major "trust me bro" statement of fact. Literally no one else I'm aware of has made such a statement? What is Juan's connection to Trump in that he's the only one in the world who was privy to such information?
Actually, on this point, DJT himself did explain that, as I think Kash did as well. However, in my recollection this was NOT simply 2 weeks prior, but months prior. JS's statement that this was 2 weeks prior raised a flag for me.
I would find it exceedingly hard to take seriously any anon or pede who think JS is part of Q operation.
Also, the lack of sauce and verifiable/deniable details I find rather ..... well, red-flaggish.
HOWEVER, I also agree with OP u/Qanaut assertion that he did NOT tell us to accept anything or such. He simply warned against lazy attacks, and exhorted us to make comments constructive and not low effort.
The things Juan says are 1) unverifiable, 2) only he's saying them, 3) implies that he's just as much of an insider as Q.
Take, for instance, that Juan states that the FBI visited Mar a Lago and Trump showed them where all the documents were and how they were being safely kept. Then the FBI says "not being kept safe enough" and gave Trump new locks to keep them safe.
Work out the hundreds of implications if what Juan is saying is real. It would mean he's an insider that is as close to Trump as Q. But there's no proof of any of it other than "trust me bro".
Can you even name some piece of information that Juan told anons that was
critical information that we needed to know
actually verifiable that it can be proven the prediction came true
represents one of his many "trust me bro" statements where he's the only one saying it?
To me it just seems like Juan presents himself like Q, but without the proofs.
I believe Anons fundamentally misunderstand the value of Juan and Nino's conversations.
It isn't about verifying information, or proving something 'correct' or 'incorrect', its about GAME THEORY, and learning how to analyze the moves and counter moves available to the Deep State and the Cabal on the great board of chess we are witnessing play out throughout the world.
There is no right or wrong in a game of chess, there are only possibilities for the next move. The only ultimatum in a game of chess is when a check mate has occurred. Before the checkmate, it is a delicate dance of moves and counter moves. The Cabal may take a Rook, the Q team may take a Bishop, on and on the game will go; piece after piece being removed until only a few are left.
Juan presents possible moves on the chess board. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because a move is available to a master chess player, doesn't mean that move will be taken immediately, or even at all. Sometimes an available move is not taken in favor of a more favorable move. Sometimes the Game Theory demands that a player deliberately not act on a favorable move in order to gain an advantage at a later point in the game.
Anons have this notion that people like Juan should be held up to Godlike standards, and that their predictions must come true, or else they are larpers, or con artists. Anons need to shoulder the burden of analysis in these matters. In the same breath Anons ridicule Juan for not giving them clear answers, and then lambast him when the moves and counter moves he theorized about haven't come to pass.
For a more in depth discussion on Game Theory, see my post titled:
Ok, let's talk about game theory. What advantage is gained by telling the Q community "I'm the only one who is sharing this information, Trump may or may not be arrested soon."
Thus far, we've been told we're watching a movie and that patriots are in control. We've been told by Q that Trump is safe. Anons have also speculated that Trump is also currently (secretly) still the president.
The idea that Trump can be arrested negates all three above points. Patriots would not be in control, Trump is not safe, and a sitting president cannot be arrested so he must not be the president.
Unless the plan is to have Trump arrested. But, if that's the case, even then Juan is still incorrect, because he's presenting the cabal as being in power enough to arrest Trump, but in reality it would be Trump allowing himself to be arrested as part of the plan.
I contend that if Trump is arrested
the foreknowledge of the arrest has no value
that Juan isn't shown to be having any particular insight, because he stated it might or might not happen covering every possible outcome
that the reasoning behind the arrest would be different than Juan suggests, as Juan suggests its because the cabal is wielding power, whereas the real reason is that it's a feature of the plan to move people closer to the precipice
I have a post I am working on that will explore the possibility of a President Trump arrest. I believe it is entirely possible for President Trump to be arrested, while also being protected by Patriots. The two are not mutually exclusive.
the foreknowledge of the arrest has no value
I would tend to disagree on this one. I think the foreknowledge of an arrest of President Trump gives Anons the time needed to sow peace and calm within the community, and anticipate the happening, so as to avoid civil unrest and the sparks of civil war. More on this in my upcoming post though!
Juan is still incorrect, because he's presenting the cabal as being in power enough to arrest Trump
Okay... I typically do not like Jesus metaphors, but hear me out on this one... (by the way, I'm not comparing Trump to Jesus, only the contextual situation they both found themselves in...)
Jesus knew ahead of time that he would be arrested, and yet he still let it happen. He told his followers that this would happen, and that they must let it happen. The Romans were not more powerful than Jesus. Jesus allowed the Romans to arrest him in order to gain an advantage for humanity.
It is very possible that the White Hats themselves will be the ones who arrest President Trump, and pin the happening on the Democrats. He can be insulated with Patriots while the narrative unfolds that it was the Democrats who arrested him. The narrative must be built that the arrest of a former President is not only possible, but has already occurred, thus giving precedence when Biden, Obama, and Bush are all arrested for their treason.
Legally, there is no need for a precedence, but narratively there needs to be a set up.
I could go on and on about this topic, but I'll save the rest of this discussion for a more comprehensive post on the matter. Look for this post in the coming days before election. I would really like to continue this discussion!
How much have you looked into everyone involved with Juan?
Field McConnel… Ryan Pendergrass, Chris Hallett, Randi Erikson, Timothy Holmseth, David Straight…. I am asking because if not, I can elaborate. Do you know who Madyson Marquette is?
You know.. people said the same thing you’re saying now about Lin Wood, Patrick Byrne, Sydney Powell and crew… we all know how this ended up. They all called each other out as deep state plants.
Then the professor came out.. he’s a deep state plant to apparently.. how many influencers have been called out by each other as deep state plants? Almost all of them even Ron Watkins.
What did all these people do leading up to the election? In hindsight, do you see how they were trying to build a base by dripping intel? Go back and read all of the posts about Ron Watkins and you’ll see what I am talking about. Everything he said and did was “wait till this bombshell happens and it’s all over”.
I’m not saying everything needs to be accurate or happen as predicted. But just go back and read how they were interacting with everyone leading up to the election.
The content they’re discussing might have some of the truth behind it but that doesn’t mean anything when we know what this tactic is.
He’s talking about game theory but did you consider he’s the one playing it?
Have you heard about this? Not saying true or not but there’s a lot of backstory behind it.
JUAN O'SAVIN NAMED AS [EVIL] INTEL OPERATIVE ASSIGNED TO PREVENT EXPOSURE OF CPS CHILD KIDNAPPINGS
Disclaimer: Not intended to be a Juan O Larpin comment.
I'll admit I have a bias against O'savin. Which is why I tend to avoid or not bother with stuff he comes out with.
I think some serious discussion of how reliable or useful he is, or where he is coming from as a commentator, etc., would be useful (not in this thread), but I'll be the first to admit that such discussions tend to quickly devolve into unabashed expression of subjective like/dislike, hack and slash back and forths, rather than more dispassionate objective review and criticism.
For this reason, I actually appreciate that the Qstranaut stickied his pre-emptive warning.
Moreover, I am actually tempted this time to take another listen to Osavin and review the content, and possibly review my standing impressions, something I've not been inclined to do since 2021, based on what I listened to and ingested that year from Osavin (and associates).
Fingers crossed, this comment is not deleted into the ether.
I think some serious discussion of how reliable or useful he is
Historical information he provides is invaluable. In this video he explains how the USSR was taken down using Rubles, and how Russia is now doing the exact same thing to the West right now - revenge is best served cold.
The information he provides about symbology is very useful aswell.
He also provides hints towards possible moves coming up - but people who take them literally always become very angry when it does not happen. These possible moves are part of moving chess game, but more importantly, it provides targeted disinfo to the Cabal as well.
I made a list of things he said in a comment elsewhere in this post, which did not happen - important to keep this in mind when listening to him.
One of the biggest reasons why I found him compelling originally was because he was the only source who prepared us that Biden will end up getting inaugurated.
107 is not for everyone. You need huge amount of discernment to get value out of his videos.
Thank you for the cliff notes version! Not sure I'm going to have time to watch the video. Juan does certainly know his history and seems to be a font of information!
There is more stuff I hadn't put in that. There is also some very interesting stuff about Nixon and Operation Paperclip and John Trump. Haha, you will definitely not miss it now, right?
Yeah I actually put it on 1.75x speed and listened to it in the school pickup line today. I'm always amazed at the amount of facts in that guy's head that he can just rattle off on a whim. I can barely remember yesterday in my personal life lol. I'm really quite jealous.
Update: Well, I listened to the video (rip and then listen as audio) with only about 5 mins at end not finished yet.
Some interesting points certainly I'd like to reflect on.
Some I personally think are only 70% of the picture, but there are some interesting takes he has.
His style, however, I find troublesome. As someone wrote, a LOT of "trust me on this" type of statements. In other words, he doesn't seem to honor the need for his audience to be able to check, verify themselves, which I personally don't like. It does seem a bit ... cavalier.
I might take a look at more of his discussions with Nino. Maybe. I was glad I made listening to this a thing in my schedule.
I guess my take-away is that people always need to remember that no one is perfect, but also that lack of perfection doesn't mean lack of value. Appreciate what you can, find value where you can.
I'm very interested in him and have a few theories but not totally sure. His historical info and breath of understanding on a variety of topics is much more in interesting than his lack of ability to predict dates that everyone seems to get hung up on imo.
It was Juan that explained that the Blackhawks in LA were not there on a practice run. He pointed out things like the Kevlar slings, the fact that there were two helicopters, one that took away a dirty bomb, one that took away a bioweapon. The helicopters left in different directions and one was seen being hosed down later not far away and videoed. I watched the videos.
This happened when Pelosi was meant to be going to the ME taking with her 93 family members. Schiff was along for the ride. 45 denied her the fuel for the Military plane. Her suitcases were piled up outside her office. Whose district was these bombs in?
That same week one of the biggest drug busts happened with a direct link to El Chapo. The port where is happened was in the same area. I listen to lots of independent sources and at the time no one was mentioning it. Except Juan
The RV that exploded in Nashville. The building it was parked outside of was APP. The very building that held the servers that was used in the theft of the election. BTW where’s Gina?
Melania’s dresses. Most were comms. He speaks of her fondly stating no other woman would cope with the things the left did to her. She is always gracious and dignified.
The most upsetting thing he said was a week before the inauguration he said on Ninos that Biden would be inaugurated. There are just too many things like AF1 taking 45 and Melania home while Biden had to hire a plane to take him to his own inauguration.
For those that like to call Juan names etc., that’s your prerogative. But doing research also means doing research on those that you feel threatened by. Could it be his faith that triggers you? Juan has the most amazing gift to reach in and use God’s Word to teach. Listen to his teachings on Nebuchadnezzar and Adam and Eve. I’ve been a Bible believing Christian for decades and no teachings under any Pastor could explain God’s Word like he does.
Since that happened and I have listened to him, he’ll say something to add more credence to what he first said. After I wrote that post yesterday, I sat down and listened to it and once again he mentioned the location and a couple of other bits I hadn’t heard him say before. The street it happened on and while that seems like nothing, it’s the way he says it as if it’s embedded in his mind because he knew what went down at that time. It was late and hubby and I had just herded our soooooo excited, candy fuelled Granddaughters out the door (we are in Oz so got it here before you guys) 6am Tuesday here - so when I get a chance today, I’ll go and enjoy the soft Spring weather and have another listen.
The only thing I really fret about is 45 and the ‘arrest’. I heard this from Juan - in a round about way, hinting but not saying it - while he was speaking to Nino around a year ago. Nino lost it but after calming him down, didn’t give dates or timeframes or anything. Juan seemed surprisingly calm. My only concern is the DS can get at him in such a vulnerable situation. 🙏🏼
Juan does a fairly good job of explaining the phenomenon in this video.
He is very clear in his communications that we are in a dynamic game of chess with pieces on the board, possible moves and counter moves in the future, and that we are playing a waiting game as to who will move which pieces first.
He mentioned in this episode how there are a lot of folks out there who are looking for a "gotcha" moment to discredit him. They want to pin a date on a prediction of his, and when that date comes to pass without a happening, use that non-happening as a character attack to prevent others from looking into what he is discussing. It is a cheap tactic, and one that Anons should be able to see through at this stage in the game.
Juan never discusses events in relation to dates. He always discusses events in relation to the moves and countermoves available on the chess board. What he talks about today may not come to pass this week, or this month, or even this year. He is simply laying out a possible avenue that the Deep State and Cabal might take going forward.
People take his words literally and get angry that what he said did not happen. But it's all part of targeted disinfo towards Cabal who follows him (I am guessing) to confuse them. He always hints at these events, never tells it happens, but people assume it will happen.
Example:
Trump will be inaugurated in April 2021
Biden and Kamala will have a messy fallout during Thanksgiving 2021
Jan 20, 2022 will trigger some kind of disclosure due to Law of War one year checkpoint.
Correct. Juan provides both information and disinformation at the exact same time. Game theory 101. Anons that don’t study how Game and String theory work will certainly not get him, and rush to discredit his “suggestions” of events.
You beat me to posting my two favorites! :) :) Great info in this video Anons! Listen to what is said, what isn’t said, and suggested Anons. Juan talks in Game/String theory at times so please pay attention. WWG1WGA.
Yes. Because they’re suggestions of “possible events” Clif High is another that talks in Game Theory. Not at the level Juan does, but Clif also says and doesn’t say suggested possible outcomes.
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I LIKE hearing from other people with viewpoints that I may not have considered. Whether they are "loved" or "despised" (even based on what they've said in the past), I want to hear it.
We're in an ACTIVE WAR, shit changes, and there is a plan - but we know it can change based on the battlefield situations. I don't need anyone telling me whether to consume information or not. I'll THINK FOR MYSELF, thank you very much.
Anything O Savin says never comes to fruition, If they were to arrest Trump it won't be after the mid terms, But they won't arrest Trump it will create a shit storm and they know it, they are better off with the threat of arresting him and that is as far as it goes. O Savin is full of shit plain and simple and Nino thinks he is god.
His talk are suggestions of if and or, or what if’s. Yes it’s hard to track if one has never in-depth studied Game and String Theory. Because Juan talks in suggested Code and most people, 95% or so have no clue what Code talking is. I was very confused on him as well at first. But after a few months of Game and String Theory study, I get more of his said and unsaid suggestions of events.
Because some info comes from a higher power shall we say. Some things will be disclosed. Other things not at this time. Plus I have to write things out, check it, add sources if needed and so on. Takes a little time but I’m busy with my wife and kids until Tuesday.
I can't stand these guys who constantly spit out numbers after any sentence. If you can't speak like a normal human when getting your point across, I have no time for you.
Not sure when I started listening to Juan. Maybe the beginning of this year. I’ve always understood he is not part of the 4am meeting and etc. with Trump. It does seem he has a political affiliation that is high up in the ranks with well known politicians. Never have sat their and said “This guy is apart of Q!! He works with Trump!!!”. He just doesn’t provide stuff like that.
I do enjoy his symbology talk and when he speaks upon the bible and the cabals religion. Probably has to be the more interesting to me at least.
Bro I bet nesara's gonna give us a billion, trillion, 750 million dollars in our bank accounts tomorrow! And medbeds will heal us all and muh snake venom in the water because Juan O Savin said it. 😂🤭
Juan never said these things, just to put you on point. And if he did I’d like to see the sauce. Because that’s more Simon Parks stuff than Juan. Just saying because I’ve listened to every Juan video since he emerged.
According to some of the doctors from FLCCC med beds ARE being used. I don't remember the video but one of them was involved in making them available and setting up clinic or offices to make them available. It was quite interesting when they were discussing how they were being used and who could benefit.
I really don't understand the downvotes and laughing. I know what I heard. This may not be what you are all talking about and laughing but this is an example of Tesla medbeds...
I hope to get my Juan post up tomorrow y’all, if I feel up to it. I think I stayed out too late on Halloween handing out candy to all the crumb crunchers and tweens haha. Woke up sick the next morning running 100+ since. Got a bug somehow. So I didn’t work on it at all. But I didn’t forget and am not meaning to neglect your hungry minds. Much love and respect. WWG1WGA.
Great historical explanation on U.S. collapsing the ruble (begins at about 19:34) comparing to what is happening currently with the dollar.
Can someone elaborate on what is happening now with the dollar and ruble? Thanks!
This is a preemptive warning that I will be treating any "Juan O Larpin" type comments the same as we do "Two Weeks" comments.
If you cannot raise your analysis to the level of Game Theory, and the Moves and Countermoves of the Deep State and Q Team, then do not comment.
If you have a legitimate counter-analysis to what Juan and Nino are discussing, please share your thoughts, but do so constructively, and avoid low effort character attacks.
So no opinions are welcome.
Osavin and the dolts around him have been making grandiose claims and datef-fagging so hard for so long I'm surprised anyone here takes anything they say seriously.
I'll rag on Juan O'Larpin all I want because he has outright peddled bad information before which turned out to be dead wrong in retrospect. I'll wait until he actually has a good track record of his information being solid then I can take him seriously.
Since when are we commanded by moderators to accept non-anons word as fact unless we can do an in-depth study of their current content?
Challenge accepted, I guess.
At 1:14 Juan makes a statement of fact, Trump can now be prosecuted because of paperwork he personally saw was "signed".
I'm sorry, but statements of fact like this with zero sauce are not valid. It's a major "trust me bro" statement that could have been elaborated on for so much more ...
Don't know. Sauce not provided.
If the answers to the above questions are "sorry that info is too secret and would get people in trouble", then he shouldn't have been stating it in the first place.
At 5:35 Juan states that FBI coordinated with Trump two weeks prior to him being raided, that Trump brought them in and showed them how everything was being stored at Mar a Lago.
What a major "trust me bro" statement of fact. Literally no one else I'm aware of has made such a statement? What is Juan's connection to Trump in that he's the only one in the world who was privy to such information?
How convenient for Juan that every statement of fact he makes is completely non-verifiable.
And here is where the danger comes in.
People who love Juan simply assume he's part of the Q team, because that's the only way he could know these things is if he has insider access. They assume he's the voice of Q because he's an insider and he's somehow been given permission to spill the beans on all this super-insider stuff.
People are well within their full rights to call Juan a larp, based on the above alone.
Now, why are mods stickying non-anons and demanding that we listen to them before we can criticize them? I already knew Juan makes wild statements of fact that are non-verifiable (by design). Why did I have to completely set aside all my prior well-informed opinion about Juan and listen to his current drivel in order to respond to him?
The Q movement is about information, not celebrity. Demanding we accept the word of a celebrity is the antithesis to the anon movement.
The last few days its been mostly mods pinning their own posts with a very select few daily posts peppered in. It could be argued they are steering the conversation(s). Now we're being told to not voice opposition.
I agree, that's bullshit. I take plenty of hits when I post opposing opinions.
I'll fight to the death for you guys in modchat on this one.
I couldnt agree with you more, magavoices.
Thank you Chron. Many of us detest unwaivering Paytriot cheerleading. It's good to know we have at least one mod who isn't drinking their kool aid and approaches the content with questions rather than blind acceptance.
That is NOT what I wrote.
Open your eyes, and read very slowly next time.
I asked for HIGH EFFORT, and CONSTRUCTIVE discussion. No Mod will ever tell you that you have to believe anything, or accept anything at face value.
Uh oh, Critical Thinking in the House!
EVERYTHING Juan says is sauceless.
How about a reverse challenge???
How about anyone (Mods AND general Juan Supporters) posting his drivel be required to post sauce supporting the said content?
The problem is there would be no Juan posts.
Thinking strategically, IF in fact Juan has insider info…and IF he is on the Q team (or has ties to it) and he is out here telling us Patriots and any normie who’ll listen how the hotdogs are being made THEN that’s just a dumb plan.
Why on earth would you alert the enemy to your weaknesses and vulnerabilities?
And if he’s “leaking” this “real world info I know cuz I’m an insider bro” then he is in fact a traitor to the cause….and remind me never to include Juan in a bank robbing heist cuz he’d get us all caught.
Anyway, just my two shekels.
Magavoices, You earned my Updoot Fren!
Seems we shouldn't accept anyone's word as fact unless they have supporting proof.
Actually, on this point, DJT himself did explain that, as I think Kash did as well. However, in my recollection this was NOT simply 2 weeks prior, but months prior. JS's statement that this was 2 weeks prior raised a flag for me.
I would find it exceedingly hard to take seriously any anon or pede who think JS is part of Q operation.
Also, the lack of sauce and verifiable/deniable details I find rather ..... well, red-flaggish.
HOWEVER, I also agree with OP u/Qanaut assertion that he did NOT tell us to accept anything or such. He simply warned against lazy attacks, and exhorted us to make comments constructive and not low effort.
Since when did any moderator command you to accept anything?
I requested HIGH EFFORT, and CONSTRUCTIVE discussion.
I swear, some of our Anons are as bad as liberals when it comes to seeking out things to be offended by that do not exist.
Shouldn't you respond to the criticism though?
The things Juan says are 1) unverifiable, 2) only he's saying them, 3) implies that he's just as much of an insider as Q.
Take, for instance, that Juan states that the FBI visited Mar a Lago and Trump showed them where all the documents were and how they were being safely kept. Then the FBI says "not being kept safe enough" and gave Trump new locks to keep them safe.
Work out the hundreds of implications if what Juan is saying is real. It would mean he's an insider that is as close to Trump as Q. But there's no proof of any of it other than "trust me bro".
Can you even name some piece of information that Juan told anons that was
To me it just seems like Juan presents himself like Q, but without the proofs.
I believe Anons fundamentally misunderstand the value of Juan and Nino's conversations.
It isn't about verifying information, or proving something 'correct' or 'incorrect', its about GAME THEORY, and learning how to analyze the moves and counter moves available to the Deep State and the Cabal on the great board of chess we are witnessing play out throughout the world.
There is no right or wrong in a game of chess, there are only possibilities for the next move. The only ultimatum in a game of chess is when a check mate has occurred. Before the checkmate, it is a delicate dance of moves and counter moves. The Cabal may take a Rook, the Q team may take a Bishop, on and on the game will go; piece after piece being removed until only a few are left.
Juan presents possible moves on the chess board. Nothing more, nothing less. Just because a move is available to a master chess player, doesn't mean that move will be taken immediately, or even at all. Sometimes an available move is not taken in favor of a more favorable move. Sometimes the Game Theory demands that a player deliberately not act on a favorable move in order to gain an advantage at a later point in the game.
Anons have this notion that people like Juan should be held up to Godlike standards, and that their predictions must come true, or else they are larpers, or con artists. Anons need to shoulder the burden of analysis in these matters. In the same breath Anons ridicule Juan for not giving them clear answers, and then lambast him when the moves and counter moves he theorized about haven't come to pass.
For a more in depth discussion on Game Theory, see my post titled:
“Do emotions affect critical thinking?,” — “Do not let personal desires take over,” — “Emotions cloud judgement,” — “Emotions cloud logic,” “Events > Dates,” — “Logical thinking and strategy should always be applied,” "Game theory," — “Moves and countermoves,” — “Future proves past.”
Ok, let's talk about game theory. What advantage is gained by telling the Q community "I'm the only one who is sharing this information, Trump may or may not be arrested soon."
Thus far, we've been told we're watching a movie and that patriots are in control. We've been told by Q that Trump is safe. Anons have also speculated that Trump is also currently (secretly) still the president.
The idea that Trump can be arrested negates all three above points. Patriots would not be in control, Trump is not safe, and a sitting president cannot be arrested so he must not be the president.
Unless the plan is to have Trump arrested. But, if that's the case, even then Juan is still incorrect, because he's presenting the cabal as being in power enough to arrest Trump, but in reality it would be Trump allowing himself to be arrested as part of the plan.
I contend that if Trump is arrested
Otherwise, Juan is negating Q.
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I have a post I am working on that will explore the possibility of a President Trump arrest. I believe it is entirely possible for President Trump to be arrested, while also being protected by Patriots. The two are not mutually exclusive.
I would tend to disagree on this one. I think the foreknowledge of an arrest of President Trump gives Anons the time needed to sow peace and calm within the community, and anticipate the happening, so as to avoid civil unrest and the sparks of civil war. More on this in my upcoming post though!
Okay... I typically do not like Jesus metaphors, but hear me out on this one... (by the way, I'm not comparing Trump to Jesus, only the contextual situation they both found themselves in...)
Jesus knew ahead of time that he would be arrested, and yet he still let it happen. He told his followers that this would happen, and that they must let it happen. The Romans were not more powerful than Jesus. Jesus allowed the Romans to arrest him in order to gain an advantage for humanity.
It is very possible that the White Hats themselves will be the ones who arrest President Trump, and pin the happening on the Democrats. He can be insulated with Patriots while the narrative unfolds that it was the Democrats who arrested him. The narrative must be built that the arrest of a former President is not only possible, but has already occurred, thus giving precedence when Biden, Obama, and Bush are all arrested for their treason.
Legally, there is no need for a precedence, but narratively there needs to be a set up.
I could go on and on about this topic, but I'll save the rest of this discussion for a more comprehensive post on the matter. Look for this post in the coming days before election. I would really like to continue this discussion!
THIS! 👆
How much have you looked into everyone involved with Juan?
Field McConnel… Ryan Pendergrass, Chris Hallett, Randi Erikson, Timothy Holmseth, David Straight…. I am asking because if not, I can elaborate. Do you know who Madyson Marquette is?
You know.. people said the same thing you’re saying now about Lin Wood, Patrick Byrne, Sydney Powell and crew… we all know how this ended up. They all called each other out as deep state plants.
Then the professor came out.. he’s a deep state plant to apparently.. how many influencers have been called out by each other as deep state plants? Almost all of them even Ron Watkins.
What did all these people do leading up to the election? In hindsight, do you see how they were trying to build a base by dripping intel? Go back and read all of the posts about Ron Watkins and you’ll see what I am talking about. Everything he said and did was “wait till this bombshell happens and it’s all over”.
I’m not saying everything needs to be accurate or happen as predicted. But just go back and read how they were interacting with everyone leading up to the election.
The content they’re discussing might have some of the truth behind it but that doesn’t mean anything when we know what this tactic is.
He’s talking about game theory but did you consider he’s the one playing it?
Have you heard about this? Not saying true or not but there’s a lot of backstory behind it.
JUAN O'SAVIN NAMED AS [EVIL] INTEL OPERATIVE ASSIGNED TO PREVENT EXPOSURE OF CPS CHILD KIDNAPPINGS
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nZf3Pjdv0oOR/
the only comment in this thread worth reading.
Disclaimer: Not intended to be a Juan O Larpin comment.
I'll admit I have a bias against O'savin. Which is why I tend to avoid or not bother with stuff he comes out with.
I think some serious discussion of how reliable or useful he is, or where he is coming from as a commentator, etc., would be useful (not in this thread), but I'll be the first to admit that such discussions tend to quickly devolve into unabashed expression of subjective like/dislike, hack and slash back and forths, rather than more dispassionate objective review and criticism.
For this reason, I actually appreciate that the Qstranaut stickied his pre-emptive warning.
Moreover, I am actually tempted this time to take another listen to Osavin and review the content, and possibly review my standing impressions, something I've not been inclined to do since 2021, based on what I listened to and ingested that year from Osavin (and associates).
Fingers crossed, this comment is not deleted into the ether.
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Historical information he provides is invaluable. In this video he explains how the USSR was taken down using Rubles, and how Russia is now doing the exact same thing to the West right now - revenge is best served cold.
The information he provides about symbology is very useful aswell.
He also provides hints towards possible moves coming up - but people who take them literally always become very angry when it does not happen. These possible moves are part of moving chess game, but more importantly, it provides targeted disinfo to the Cabal as well.
I made a list of things he said in a comment elsewhere in this post, which did not happen - important to keep this in mind when listening to him.
One of the biggest reasons why I found him compelling originally was because he was the only source who prepared us that Biden will end up getting inaugurated.
107 is not for everyone. You need huge amount of discernment to get value out of his videos.
Should I do a piece on Juan and tell what I know?
I think as far as it can be:
evidence-based
relatively dispassionate (aka not emotionally charged purely for rhetorical effect)
fair objectivity with disclosure of, or admission to, any held biases
Generate further points for examination and discussion,
Then, sure!!!!
For sure.
YES!! Do it! u/Brent75
I regret that I have but one updoodle to give for this comment.
~ Nathan Anon
Thank you for the cliff notes version! Not sure I'm going to have time to watch the video. Juan does certainly know his history and seems to be a font of information!
There is more stuff I hadn't put in that. There is also some very interesting stuff about Nixon and Operation Paperclip and John Trump. Haha, you will definitely not miss it now, right?
Yeah I actually put it on 1.75x speed and listened to it in the school pickup line today. I'm always amazed at the amount of facts in that guy's head that he can just rattle off on a whim. I can barely remember yesterday in my personal life lol. I'm really quite jealous.
Yes, but that info has been known for a while, he was not the first to come out with it.
Yes, I agree.
His historical information is always very informative.
I do enjoy listening to him use the symbology, historical analysis and try not to stick to any timelines he states as "fact".
Update: Well, I listened to the video (rip and then listen as audio) with only about 5 mins at end not finished yet.
Some interesting points certainly I'd like to reflect on.
Some I personally think are only 70% of the picture, but there are some interesting takes he has.
His style, however, I find troublesome. As someone wrote, a LOT of "trust me on this" type of statements. In other words, he doesn't seem to honor the need for his audience to be able to check, verify themselves, which I personally don't like. It does seem a bit ... cavalier.
I might take a look at more of his discussions with Nino. Maybe. I was glad I made listening to this a thing in my schedule.
I guess my take-away is that people always need to remember that no one is perfect, but also that lack of perfection doesn't mean lack of value. Appreciate what you can, find value where you can.
Discernment? Yeah, I think so.
I’ll discuss with the team how much I’m going to disclose about Juan.
Did you make the post?
I'm very interested in him and have a few theories but not totally sure. His historical info and breath of understanding on a variety of topics is much more in interesting than his lack of ability to predict dates that everyone seems to get hung up on imo.
Yes I’ll write up on Tues. Busy with my family today on Halloween haha.
Looking forward to reading it.
Thanks u/Brent75
https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6zdrzN7/kid-by-the-side-of-the-road-theo/
Thanks…I’m grabbing a nighttime tea to read
Let us know when its up, please? Pedes on the other side of the world, can often miss a whole 12-hour swathe of posties.
First piece is up:
https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6zdrzN7/kid-by-the-side-of-the-road-theo/
Sounds good - have fun!
https://greatawakening.win/p/15K6zdrzN7/kid-by-the-side-of-the-road-theo/
I look forward to it. Thanks!
It was Juan that explained that the Blackhawks in LA were not there on a practice run. He pointed out things like the Kevlar slings, the fact that there were two helicopters, one that took away a dirty bomb, one that took away a bioweapon. The helicopters left in different directions and one was seen being hosed down later not far away and videoed. I watched the videos.
This happened when Pelosi was meant to be going to the ME taking with her 93 family members. Schiff was along for the ride. 45 denied her the fuel for the Military plane. Her suitcases were piled up outside her office. Whose district was these bombs in?
That same week one of the biggest drug busts happened with a direct link to El Chapo. The port where is happened was in the same area. I listen to lots of independent sources and at the time no one was mentioning it. Except Juan
The RV that exploded in Nashville. The building it was parked outside of was APP. The very building that held the servers that was used in the theft of the election. BTW where’s Gina?
Melania’s dresses. Most were comms. He speaks of her fondly stating no other woman would cope with the things the left did to her. She is always gracious and dignified.
The most upsetting thing he said was a week before the inauguration he said on Ninos that Biden would be inaugurated. There are just too many things like AF1 taking 45 and Melania home while Biden had to hire a plane to take him to his own inauguration.
For those that like to call Juan names etc., that’s your prerogative. But doing research also means doing research on those that you feel threatened by. Could it be his faith that triggers you? Juan has the most amazing gift to reach in and use God’s Word to teach. Listen to his teachings on Nebuchadnezzar and Adam and Eve. I’ve been a Bible believing Christian for decades and no teachings under any Pastor could explain God’s Word like he does.
So we have proof that the military took away a dirty bomb and a bioweapon?
Since that happened and I have listened to him, he’ll say something to add more credence to what he first said. After I wrote that post yesterday, I sat down and listened to it and once again he mentioned the location and a couple of other bits I hadn’t heard him say before. The street it happened on and while that seems like nothing, it’s the way he says it as if it’s embedded in his mind because he knew what went down at that time. It was late and hubby and I had just herded our soooooo excited, candy fuelled Granddaughters out the door (we are in Oz so got it here before you guys) 6am Tuesday here - so when I get a chance today, I’ll go and enjoy the soft Spring weather and have another listen.
The only thing I really fret about is 45 and the ‘arrest’. I heard this from Juan - in a round about way, hinting but not saying it - while he was speaking to Nino around a year ago. Nino lost it but after calming him down, didn’t give dates or timeframes or anything. Juan seemed surprisingly calm. My only concern is the DS can get at him in such a vulnerable situation. 🙏🏼
You are on it. You’ve been reeeally listening to what he says and doesn’t say, but suggests.
Awesome post! u/MatildaJ
Pepefarrm remembers all these things also!
yea, i dont understand all the 107 hate going around. its strange cause no one else seems to get that much flack
Juan does a fairly good job of explaining the phenomenon in this video.
He is very clear in his communications that we are in a dynamic game of chess with pieces on the board, possible moves and counter moves in the future, and that we are playing a waiting game as to who will move which pieces first.
He mentioned in this episode how there are a lot of folks out there who are looking for a "gotcha" moment to discredit him. They want to pin a date on a prediction of his, and when that date comes to pass without a happening, use that non-happening as a character attack to prevent others from looking into what he is discussing. It is a cheap tactic, and one that Anons should be able to see through at this stage in the game.
Juan never discusses events in relation to dates. He always discusses events in relation to the moves and countermoves available on the chess board. What he talks about today may not come to pass this week, or this month, or even this year. He is simply laying out a possible avenue that the Deep State and Cabal might take going forward.
People take his words literally and get angry that what he said did not happen. But it's all part of targeted disinfo towards Cabal who follows him (I am guessing) to confuse them. He always hints at these events, never tells it happens, but people assume it will happen.
Example:
Trump will be inaugurated in April 2021
Biden and Kamala will have a messy fallout during Thanksgiving 2021
Jan 20, 2022 will trigger some kind of disclosure due to Law of War one year checkpoint.
Trump will be arrested last week
Elections will be pushed back (yet to see).
can you put together a similar list of all the things hes said that DID happen?
Correct. Juan provides both information and disinformation at the exact same time. Game theory 101. Anons that don’t study how Game and String theory work will certainly not get him, and rush to discredit his “suggestions” of events.
I will put this episode, the previous one, here, because its a great episode as well: https://rumble.com/v1qblfi-juan-o-savin-where-was-the-trump-arrest.html
You beat me to posting my two favorites! :) :) Great info in this video Anons! Listen to what is said, what isn’t said, and suggested Anons. Juan talks in Game/String theory at times so please pay attention. WWG1WGA.
This post rocks! 💥 Love game theory!
I approach Juan in much the same way I approach Clif High. I won't bet on his predictions, but I do appreciate his insights.
Yes. Because they’re suggestions of “possible events” Clif High is another that talks in Game Theory. Not at the level Juan does, but Clif also says and doesn’t say suggested possible outcomes.
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I LIKE hearing from other people with viewpoints that I may not have considered. Whether they are "loved" or "despised" (even based on what they've said in the past), I want to hear it.
We're in an ACTIVE WAR, shit changes, and there is a plan - but we know it can change based on the battlefield situations. I don't need anyone telling me whether to consume information or not. I'll THINK FOR MYSELF, thank you very much.
Another guy with a deep, gravely voice claiming a 1-step removed or an actual personal connection to Trump.
Anything O Savin says never comes to fruition, If they were to arrest Trump it won't be after the mid terms, But they won't arrest Trump it will create a shit storm and they know it, they are better off with the threat of arresting him and that is as far as it goes. O Savin is full of shit plain and simple and Nino thinks he is god.
His talk are suggestions of if and or, or what if’s. Yes it’s hard to track if one has never in-depth studied Game and String Theory. Because Juan talks in suggested Code and most people, 95% or so have no clue what Code talking is. I was very confused on him as well at first. But after a few months of Game and String Theory study, I get more of his said and unsaid suggestions of events.
Why stammer around just say it and quit talking in codes.
Because some info comes from a higher power shall we say. Some things will be disclosed. Other things not at this time. Plus I have to write things out, check it, add sources if needed and so on. Takes a little time but I’m busy with my wife and kids until Tuesday.
I can't stand these guys who constantly spit out numbers after any sentence. If you can't speak like a normal human when getting your point across, I have no time for you.
Not sure when I started listening to Juan. Maybe the beginning of this year. I’ve always understood he is not part of the 4am meeting and etc. with Trump. It does seem he has a political affiliation that is high up in the ranks with well known politicians. Never have sat their and said “This guy is apart of Q!! He works with Trump!!!”. He just doesn’t provide stuff like that.
I do enjoy his symbology talk and when he speaks upon the bible and the cabals religion. Probably has to be the more interesting to me at least.
Bro I bet nesara's gonna give us a billion, trillion, 750 million dollars in our bank accounts tomorrow! And medbeds will heal us all and muh snake venom in the water because Juan O Savin said it. 😂🤭
Juan never said these things, just to put you on point. And if he did I’d like to see the sauce. Because that’s more Simon Parks stuff than Juan. Just saying because I’ve listened to every Juan video since he emerged.
I think charlie ward said that.
According to some of the doctors from FLCCC med beds ARE being used. I don't remember the video but one of them was involved in making them available and setting up clinic or offices to make them available. It was quite interesting when they were discussing how they were being used and who could benefit.
😂🤣
I really don't understand the downvotes and laughing. I know what I heard. This may not be what you are all talking about and laughing but this is an example of Tesla medbeds...
https://www.teslabiohealing.com/collections/tesla-medbed-center-services
I hope to get my Juan post up tomorrow y’all, if I feel up to it. I think I stayed out too late on Halloween handing out candy to all the crumb crunchers and tweens haha. Woke up sick the next morning running 100+ since. Got a bug somehow. So I didn’t work on it at all. But I didn’t forget and am not meaning to neglect your hungry minds. Much love and respect. WWG1WGA.
Best wishes to feel better soon!
The first summary is up.
Great historical explanation on U.S. collapsing the ruble (begins at about 19:34) comparing to what is happening currently with the dollar. Can someone elaborate on what is happening now with the dollar and ruble? Thanks!
Huh last time I checked this board was very anti JFK Jr 🤷♂️
My comment stands