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This is why people fear saturated fat (Another lie, which was used to fuel the high cholesterol scare in the late 1960s.) (twitter.com)
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– lovecymru 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

DS has been trying to kill us for a looong time

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– TSearch 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I’m glad I never gave up lard and butter!

I remember for a while Doctors and Scientists were scratching their heads over what was being called the French Paradox. The French has diets much higher in fat and a much lower instance of heart disease. I notice France was conveniently left off the chart.

Unfortunately there had been a full court press to demonize the idea there is a French Paradox snd to convince the French to abandon their traditional diet.

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– igoape 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

I like bacon and don't see any point in frying it in oil when I have lard to hand.

The condemnation of fats was due to a very successful advertising campaign by the sugar industry IMHO.

As for margarine, I believe its one molecule away from plastic.

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– stevethefish76 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You are right, but the part about margarine being one molecule away from plastic is a common talking point that doesn't do much. Lots of stuff ar one molecule away from something. Take hydrogen and oxygen, two highly explosive gases, and you get water.

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– igoape 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's bit more than a talking point...

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– LongTimeListener 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Big shampoo was behind margarine?

Joke if you couldnt tell. Perhaps a bad one. But I chuckled.

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– Munchaussen 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

See Ancel Keys. Gary Taubes exposed this in Nature magazine. Keys didn’t include France because it was contrary to his theory. Nina Teicholz has a excellent book explaining the SAD and it’s purposeful harm.

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– FtheNWO 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

What kind of fat do humans make ourselves when we consume excess calories? Saturated fat. If it was so harmful and pathogenic would that be the case?

We also have the ability to create monounsaturated fat from saturated fat via the SCD1 enzyme, as needed.

Beware of lard and chicken fat. Those are monogastric animals so their fats tend to have high levels of O6 polyunsaturated fats when they are fed non appropriate grains. Cattle do better even when fed grains.

One hypothesis as to why Americans have become obese is the much higher consumption of O6 linoleic acid, which are unstable and quickly decay to 2-AG and Anandamide which activate cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2. Similar to marijuana smoking causes the 'munchies'. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1038/oby.2012.38

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– photobuf 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Eat REAL BUTTER, cold pressed Olive oil, cook with Avacado oil and get away from anything fried!

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– Ausernamegoeshere 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Avoid seed oils (corn, peanut, sunflower) Avoid olive oils you dont know the provenance of (most olive oil in the US is corn oil).

Fried foods are fine, if they are fried in butter/lard.

Avoid breads with enriched flower. Make your own bread without enriched flour.

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– photobuf 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Always read the label!

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– Ausernamegoeshere 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I dont have time to read the whole label, just give me the gist. ;)

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– photobuf 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Product of China, Product of Peru, Product of WHATEVER. Get USA if possible.

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– ForgetMePls 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

But fried in tarrow is Good

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– ForgetMePls 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

sorry, tallow. Super tired tonight.

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– tool 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Lard, butter, cold extracted olive oil. I banned everything else from our household. There's enough crap in the shit they sell to our children, but when I cook, I use the fats above. Step by step getting away from their poison.

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– LoneWulf 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Some sauce:

https://paleoleap.com/saturated-fat-cover-up/

"Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27071971/

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– smartbaum 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You need saturated fat and full spectrum sunlight together. Why? UVB light converts sulfated cholesterol in the skin to sulfated Vitamin D3. Boom. Almost like living and eating like our ancestors could be a thing!

P.S. I butchered my first pigs a month ago and just made chicharrones / cracklings in the kitchen today... wow. WOW.

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– LongTimeListener 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Same shit they did with the climate change "hockey stick" graph. They cherry pick data to fit their preferred propaganda.

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– BurtMcGirt 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Same thing they are doing with ChatGPT.

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– TrumpsTower 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

stay away from fried foods and vegetable oil

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– Jas77 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I still remember when they removed transfats in the late 90s. I remember the taste of a can of Pringles changed forever. They never tasted right since.

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– Deaf_MAGA_Pede 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"American Dad" did an episode on trans fat. It was "Live and Let Fry" episode where Stan Smith, a CIA agent, finds out his office is pulling trans fat out and all of a sudden there's a trans fat ban in his hometown. So Stan got desperate and start smuggling trans fat into his hometown and his boss is on to him as the boss starts asking questions about trans fat.

Stan then have his son, Steve, smuggle trans fat but Stan's boss is also on to Steve so Steve pedals home on his bike while consuming trans fat out of the container and experience a heart attack like symptom (angina).

Basically it's just an episode that's supposed to be funny and all, but also teaches a lesson that trans fat is still bad, which is why it should stay banned.

https://americandad.fandom.com/wiki/Live_and_Let_Fry

I used to like American Dad as well as Family Guy but after 2016, it got cucked so bad, I stopped watching them all (American Dad is off air now but Family Guy is still running I believe).

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– ForgetMePls 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nor McDonald's fries!

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– Grr8fulp8riQt 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

They also pushed low fat diets as a way to profit from byproduct since we use the fatty creamy parts of milk, for example, for yogurt and sour cream. That leaves tons of 'low fat milk'...AKA, BYPRODUCT that no old schoolers would give a damn about. So they started up the impropaganda...

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– Donny_Fiasco 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Check out how they changed the food pyramid in 1976 {around that time}

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– sk39999999 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

wait until people learn about how they demonized tobacco

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– smartbaum 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nicotine has a psychostimulatory effect on the CNS at low doses via enhancing the actions of norepinephrine and dopamine in the brain. Anything that increase either increases voltage as can be measured by EEG. Anything that increase voltage increase the "DC electric current" in the brain.

A. Clark MA, Finkel R, Rey JA, Whalen K: Lippincott's Illustrated Reviews: Pharmacology. Baltimore/Philadelphia: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins; 2008.

B. Silvette H, Hoff EC, Larson PS, Haag HB: The actions of nicotine on central nervous system functions.Pharmacol Rev 1962, 14:137–173.

Nicotinamide, also known as niacinamide and nicotinic acid amide, is the amide of nicotinic acid (vitamin B3/ niacin). Nicotinamide is a water-soluble vitamin and is part of the vitamin B group. Nicotinic acid, also known as niacin, is converted to nicotinamide in vivo, and though the two are identical in their vitamin functions, nicotinamide does not have the same pharmacologic and toxic effects of niacin, which occur incidental to niacin’s conversion. Thus nicotinamide does not reduce cholesterol or cause flushing, although nicotinamide may be toxic to the liver at doses exceeding 3 g/day for adults. The body can synthesize niacin from the essential amino acid tryptophan, but the synthesis is extremely slow; 60 mg of tryptophan are required to make one milligram of niacin. For this reason, eating lots of tryptophan is not an adequate substitute for consuming niacin. As serotonin synthesis is reliant on tryptophan availability, inadequate dietary intake of vitamin B3 may also therefore lead to depression. Depression is a low DC current state. In cells, niacin is incorporated into nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD) and nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate (NADP), although the pathways for nicotinamide and nicotinic acid are very similar. NAD+ and NADP+ are coenzymes in a wide variety of enzymatic oxidation-reduction reactions.

It was discovered in 1941 that a solution of nicotine in the presence of oxygen could be converted to nicotinic acid (niacin). Both oxygen and UV light irradiation were required for this reaction to occur...

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja01846a026?journalCode=jacsat

Therefore, exogenous nicotine ingestion combined with sunlight exposure and fresh air / oxygen can have heaping health benefits. Do not ingest through a smoke / inhaling device (esp if living indoors / high latitudes), since that promotes pseudo hypoxia and threatens to negate the nicotine benefits.

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– Munchaussen 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Tobacco is soaked in sugar water before drying. The sugar increases the addictive nature.

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– LongTimeListener 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I bet you would find a direct correlation between fat Americans and the rise of Wonder Bread and TV dinners.

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– ForgetMePls 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And low fat meals

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– Grady_Wilson 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

You guys should check out Sten Ekberg's YT channel.

He has excellent videos about nutrition and health that push against the common 'knowledge' of today. And he breaks down everything about foods and bodily functions into their base components and tells you how everything really works in the body.

https://www.youtube.com/@drekberg

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– ForgetMePls 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

This guy I like a lot! Dr. Anthony Chaffee. Plants are trying to kill us. Anybody who doesn't greens this is your guy!. ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1cqNDDG4aA

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– Wretchedwisdom 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I follow this guy. He's great

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– treepainter 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Makes you wonder what they were really doing to cause the rise in heart disease.

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– Anandamide 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Seed oils replacing tallow and fat in everything.

Every household used to have Crisco or some sort of fat to use for cooking. Now every household has vegetable oil. Every snack uses it. Every fast food restaurant fries in it.

Human beings have been apex predators for 2 million years. We are designed to consume animals and especially their fat.

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– treepainter 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I remember we used margarine because we couldn't afford butter. That was by design. Keep poor people poor, and now they want to destroy the middle class to make everyone poor again and eat bugs.

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– Munchaussen 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

2 million years…. Another lie.

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– Anandamide 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Young Earther?

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– Munchaussen 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Makes the most sense. The Center for Creation Research is a great place to bookmark.

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– Anandamide 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sorry but I completely disagree and I'm very familiar with creationism and young earth theory.

The Earth and human beings are positively ancient fren

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– Anandamide 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I always thought Crisco was just pork fat, I don't know what else is in it.

But you can buy Beef Tallow in a glass jar and it's solid at room temp, more like creamy but still white solid

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– Anandamide 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oh yeah without a doubt.

Stick with pure tallow and you can't go wrong.

I swear if someone opened a fast food restaurant that fried in beef tallow it would be an overnight success. Would just have to charge a little more.

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– treepainter 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Crisco is hydrogenated cotton seed oil. It was created to lubricate machine parts.

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– ForgetMePls 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Pig fat (lard) does not have the nutritional value that's in beef fat.

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– ForgetMePls 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Can't Agree with you More! Just bought 10# of beef fat to make tallow. No veggies in this house

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– smartbaum 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

yes seed oils = oxidized Polyunsaturated Fats = there is an oxidative pathway in our metabolic system where very clearly a high PUFA diet raises signficant disease risks when it comes to systemic inflammation. Even sugar isn't this bad (sugar doesn't actually activate an oxidative pathway, its something neutral if you consume it in season especially from whole / local foods)

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– heebiejeebie 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

pick up a box of ANYTHING... look at the ingredient list.... it reads like a horror novel!!!

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– citrouille 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This is correct. Coconut milk/cream is more of a SEA/south Asia thing but the reason they put the random additives in there is so it keeps for longer. Do yourself a favor and buy the brand(s) with no additives instead, there are still companies that make and export those. They're not necessarily even expensive.

Although the difference in coconut content between milk and cream is usually a bit more than 10%. I think 20-30% but don't quote me on it.

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– MAG768720 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Makes you wonder what they were really doing to cause the rise in heart disease.

Smoking.

In the 1920's and 1930's the tobacco companies pushed a strong propaganda campaign to make smoking seem cool and sophisticated.

Millions of smokers emerged from that, and roughly 20 years later (1950's), they started dying of heart disease.

Smokers have a 5 times higher rate of heart disease than non-smokers.

There were people in the 1950's/1960's who knew Ancel Keys was lying about his "research" (he was funded by Rockefeller, after all), and they reviewed his work. They also looked at smoking rates.

They found no correlation at all in the 22 countries between eating saturated fat and heart disease, but a strong correlation between smoking and heart disease.

Of course, the 3 TV networks in NYC had Keys on for live interviews, broadcast to millions of Americans, and the other side of the story was never heard.

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– treepainter 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The chemicals they use to grown the tobacco were the issue. Many cigar smokers lived long healthy lives.

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– 50StateLandslide 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The problem is highly processed fats and hydrogenated oils like margarine. Heart disease and the consumption of those fats go hand in hand

Look at people in blue zones that live to 100. Restricted calories, whole foods,, good fats like olive oil. Dairy fats and animal fats are more controversial, but are likely fine as long as you're eating them in moderation

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– 50StateLandslide 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

There are 5 "blue zones" that contain populations who have very high life expectancies. They're in distinctly different areas on the globe, different races, and so on, but their diets are very similar in that they avoid processed foods and don't overeat

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