I am posting this because I think they are HUGE and because in an hour I will forget what I thought was HUGE and why I thought it.
CLASSIFIED information. I think he is telling us without telling us that it's best to leave the really bad treason and collusion with foreign government to military tribunals. Why do I think this? Because when asked on numerous occasions why he didn't prosecute Hillary, Obama, Comey, etc., he referred in a roundabout way to classified information. Later on, he says that sometimes even if there is evidence of a crime, the evidence might come from classified information that is "never going to see the light of day" in a criminal prosecution. I would expect that's because the information was obtained pursuant to surveillance that passes muster for a military prosecution but not a criminal prosecution, because if you are committing treason you are an enemy combatant and do not have 4th amendment search and seizure protection. Maybe someone here who knows more about criminal law than I do could answer that question. But the whole point of FISA is that they can surveil without a regular warrant because of national security concerns.
He thinks Mueller is a Patriot. This should reignite the Mueller WH/BH discussion LOL.
Further to this (was just about to post):
🔥🤡 Responding to Kiley, Durham just said there were additional crimes he couldn’t prosecute because of the classified nature of the evidence. That means the intelligence community really is the Fourth Branch of government. When national security trumps everything else, the country is screwed
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=Fourth+branch
Durham just explained why he brought the low level cases for prosecution: It was the only way he could subpoena all the players he needed testimony from who refused to be interviewed voluntarily. It was more about gathering evidence of the crimes not about prosecuting them… not yet. This is all on the record now. This was the sting. How do you trap a dangerous animal? This is why they are attacking the messenger and not the message.
To further discussion on why they were not prosecuted... could it be this subject Lindsay Graham brought up for no apparent reason?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4752677/user-clip-sen-graham-asks-military-tribunals
Quite possibly! Great point!!! (Military is the only way!?!)
FISA = start. Even moar proof of what Q means by military is the only way as these crimes are treasonous, not something civil courts do.
Wheels of justice grind slowly, but we're seeing peeks of what's to come along the way.
We'll know when we're close due to suicide weekend
Exactly what I suggested on here yesterday.......Can't have the civil authorities tying up people who SHOULD BE TRIED IN A MILITARY TRIBUNAL which by the way does NOT have a two tiered justice system like our present civilian courts do now.
Military Tribunals wouldn't apply to almost all federal crimes which would be held in federal court.
The Universal Code of Military Justice is very explicit about who can be tried under a military tribunal. It's laid out here https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/802
When you work with a foreign country to attack your own country that is considered treason. Is that still a federal crime and can't be processed by MIL?
I think Kavanaugh knows the law very well.
I think treason is both a federal and military crime, but the Universal Code of Military Justice says except in a tiny sliver of exceptions like being caught on a battlefield with Al Qaeda, military justice can't apply. It's illegal. Also the military can't be involved in law enforcement in the US due to the Posse Comitatus Act.
https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/p/posse-comitatus-act-and-related-matters-a-sketch.html
Also treason in the general sense of betrayal of country is not the legal crime of treason which is very strictly defined in US law. You need a declared war. Which is why we haven't a treason conviction since WWII and the days of Toyko Rose.
She was tried in Federal Court in SF. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Iva_Toguri#Treason_trial
Great info. Now I have to go to this... Trump said he was a "wartime president". What if war was secretly declared?
Specially when blackmail pedo rings, and trauma based mind control attempts are considered 'national security'.
The intelligence agencies (and the cult that controls them) have been running the show since Eisenhower, JFK was a hiccup.
Great play on words, "When national security trumps everything else, the country is screwed. 🤣
I agree. Durham made that “Light of Day” comment about the Classified Addendum. (It was right before the break.) Shifty sat immobile for a few minutes, completely dumbfounded!!! I hope he’s TERRIFIED!
The Schiff interactions were fascinating. They were both referencing things that were clearly beyond what was literally said.
Yeah, I got the feeling that several, duel meaning comments, were made. I actually thought about how well the whole script was being acted out.
Durham has owned Shifty today. Some epic dunks on that smug bastard. Laughed out loud when Durham referenced the time Shifty got called from a Russian spoofer about "Naked Trump".
😆😆😆
I saw a headline of shift looking all angry and the quoted headline was shift to Durham "you dont even know those basic facts!?"
I knew I had to come here
That was hilarious. If I were questioning Durham though, I'd probably cross him on whether he really never watched the news. LOLOL!!
Yes, Military Law is handling all the big baddies. I'm starting to think Durhams investigation is immediate access to information/evidence to be added to Military Courts to just zip the process thru. Trump keeps saying fast trials, fast executions. Once the Storm hits I think it's already all collected. So there won't be any delays in the MIL Tribunals. It's done and done. Goodbye.
Makes sense. Just doesn't appear that way now. But I guess it can't.
If the military does it, nobody can complain that one of the parties did it.
MSM will have to cover it.
Riot prevention....
I also think that trials will happen, juar) sentences carried out, THEN we'll find out about it.
Wow, I did NOT know this until you mentioned it. The Fourth Amendment does not provide absolute protection in all circumstances, including when there is probable cause to believe that a person has committed treason.
You may be on to something important.
Had same thoughts. Military has to prosecute treason charges IMO. Tribunals.
Plus remember Lindsay Graham's comment in some hearing a long time ago where he said can citizens be tried in military court or something?
edit: here it is, Graham talking about the 4th amendment. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4752677/user-clip-sen-graham-asks-military-tribunals
All evidence is admissible in military tribunals, regardless of the source or how it was collected.
They’re phucked
Nice.
Thanks....
I'm not all aboard the Q train but I try to follow along and it gives me a little hope. What you said in this post stood out to me as well. The wording that Durham chose to use for some of his answers made me sit back and go "hmm" a few times!
Durham KNOWS!!!!!!
Mueller is a part of the 'band'. remember this
"I have the greatest respect for Mr. Mueller. He is a Patriot." -Durham
when this dropped i inserted 'not dirty'
If [RR] is DIRTY, Mueller must also be DIRTY. if Mueller is DIRTY, [RR] must also be DIRTY. Q
The last few minutes with Gaetz and Durham sounded like an ultimatum, or more-so a warning. The constitutional laws that the deep state likes to erode at are the same constitutional laws that kept Durham from indicting the whole damn swamp.
Gaetz was either some really great theater/kayfabe or he's not as read in on the plan as might be imagined.
Yeah that was intense but also brought up some legitimate points, probably some stuff that Durham wishes he could disclose but can’t yet
Yeah he really brought attention to Misfud which was great and makes me lean towards kayfabe.
I don’t doubt it’s kayfabe. Think about it. What’s the MSM going to run with? Durham blasting Schiff a new arsehole? Or muh “Hurr hurr look at this republican slamming Trump’s special prosecutor?” These people are stupid. Watch, the main takeaway for the normies is the two-tiered justice system, and how nobody is getting served justice after all this. Tell me again how this is a bad thing for the awakening.
Excellent takeaway. I really don't think any of this is what it seems. These people are being trapped through a maze of legal preceedings which will result in them implicating themselves.
Just commented on the live post that this should be it’s own post! He mentioned numerous times the grand jury, classified info, not being able to speak about things under seal. Indictments?
I'm thinking it's about jurisdiction... maybe? I don't know....way above my paygrade... and i ain't paid shit!
National Security is code for Evidence of Treason
What a bunch of crap. These cocknuts sell information to the highest bidder and since it was classified in the first place it can’t be used as evidence.
Me thinks once classified information is sold or leaked it is no longer classified and crimes are never to be redacted when you did it while working for we the people’s government.
Government workers and currently serving politicians should be striped of 4th and 5th amendment rights when they assume the job.
They strip our rights all of the time.
A DOJ, CIA employee should always be guilty until proven innocent as a requirement when assuming the job.
"cocknuts"!!
word is now stolen!!
FISA goes both ways, so I agree with you.
Hi,
This part is mistaken
I know there has been a lot of talk of military tribunals, but if you're a regular civilian and you commit treason, that is tried in US Federal court.
The last treason conviction dates to WWII. Tomoya Kawakita was tried in federal court and served his time in Alcatraz even though he was in Japan when he committed treason by abusing American prisoners of war.
The famous case of the Rosenbergs who provided nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union was held in federal court in the Southern District of New York in 1951. This is even though Rosenberg had been part of the Army Signal Corps until 1945 and in 1944 recruited his brother-in-law to steal secrets from the Manhattan Project. (Note: They were not tried for treason, but for espionage. Treason, it seems, can only be brought when there is a declared war with a specific enemy.
I am thinking of the Kavanaugh Graham exchange, where Kavanaugh said that civilians can be tried as enemy combatants in a military tribunal:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4752677/user-clip-sen-graham-asks-military-tribunals
Supreme Court Johnson case is what is being referenced.
Yes, but it's only is extremely narrow circumstances. For way more than 99% of federal crimes, it wouldn't apply.
It's spelled out in the Universal Code of Military Justice.
So it's two questions
Can any civilian be tried in a military tribunal. NO In certain limited cases can civilians be tried in a military tribunal. YES, very, very limited.
So it's not that is never happen, it's that it almost always can't happen.
Trump declared himself as a war time president !
I agree with you.
And it appears that we are indeed watching a movie, and that movie is Memento.
Everything has happened already, but we don't know exactly how. We have to find the clues of what has transpired.
Good catch. It confirms what many of us suspected.
Ok, so......the million dollar question is.....how do we get these military tribunals running?
Check out ADBS exchange and watch the flight patterns back and forth to Gitmo.
That means absolutely nothing.
So does your question of how to get the tribunals running. Do you even read anything around here?
Your answer is to check flights in and out. That's great and all.....yet things are getting worse, not better. If indeed tribunals were happening, I think you would see a serious modified behavior of the electeds by now.
I can't read or understand things for you, anon. You'll have to figure that out for yourself.
I understand what you're saying. The question I pose is what if the train derailments, spy balloons, plane crashes, etc. ARE the modified behavior from the evil ones with them wanting to cause death and destruction on their way out?
Could very well be? We all know that these hearings are all for show, regardless what comes out of them by any witness. RINOs & the Dems are a self-serving uni-party and as they have shown will stop at nothing to protect their own. Hell, Biden's son just got a pat on the ass instead of actual justice.
PDJT was ruled against in the E Jean Carroll case, indicted in Manhattan and now under indictment by the DOJ and facing 400 years in prison! Have no doubt that GA case will be the next indictment.
None of these court cases will be cleared up before the first debate in three months. The RNC is wanting to pass rules to keep anyone indicted off the debate stage and off of the ballot. The next plandemic is already in the pipeline to ensure more states do mail-in voting.
This is not dooming, rather looking around and seeing what is happening with reality and how things are sizing up. I agree that the military is the only way. Make no mistake, I want these fuckers to fry just as we all do. My question still remains, if the military is the only way, what is it going to take to get them to step in?
We absolutely see a different behavior from our elected right now.
The way they act on air is much more subdued, their speech when holding hearings is incredibly subdued compared to the last 20 years.
The rhetoric out of Dem politicians mouths hasn't completely gone away but it’s at the lowest I remember in my 30yrs of keeping up with politics.
The most telling action is the fact that many who have held on to power for a decade or more are saying they’re not running again.
Looking > getting
What do you think those flights are? Uber eats?
For all we know....yes.
Q said Mueller will face his own charges Re: Uranium One, no?
So he may be cooperating, but not necessarily a white hat.
There’s pages on pages of Mueller files in the FBI vault, frens. Far too many redactions, but answers are clearly there
Mueller was a shell of his former self when presenting his findings in front of Congress after the investigation. Like he saw a ghost. I'd like to think they got to him before he covered it all up.
he did look frail and pathetic after the investigation. a lot of his answers were "Bidenesk".
I thought he was acting.
Just read all the comments and thought I would share with those who have an interest in 18 US Code in its entirety. If you continue to hit the "next" button I think you will find you are as Pi$$ed as I am in the fact that it proves, without a shadow of a doubt, that we no longer fly under the Constitution. We are now living under a dictatorship in a banana republic.
Here is the link. I have re-read it several times, but needed to quit - BP issues. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
#2382 applies to most of Congress
#2384 sure applies to the 2020/2022 elections
#2385 sure applies to the MSM, DNC, Antifa, BLM, etc.
#2386 sure sounds like Antifa, BLM, FBI, CIA & think Soros funding of our legal system
#2389 sure sounds like recruiting our men and women to fight in Ukraine
#2390 sure sounds like Antifa/BLM
Good stuff this. Did the report's preamble indicate DC prosecution wouldn't fly?
It is utterly ludicrous that traitors can't be tried because they hide behind classified docs - just works my very last nerve - sorry I'm irritated
Pretty sure that's central to the whole Q op, anon! We're getting there!
He also said bill Barr is a patriot. He came across as a very genuine law nerd
Trump downing Barr might be going down like Jeff Sessions and Trump. Letting the left think Trump either is through with them or has turned against them because bad-mouthing them could save their lives? What makes a good movie? GREAT ACTORS.