Basically yeah, if you use a ruler and pen and measure the angle of where you want to go then follow that angle on a compass bearing, it will work. Apologies for the vox link xD.
When she said you can’t build a wall, we’re all Americans she revealed her brainwashing.
The Mercator map isn’t/never was a Papal psyop, it’s a navigation tool. That should be explained to school kids, not that “white people” or “Christians” are shown as bigger and better. Commies gonna commie, but this one’s a zombie. Commie and don’t even know it.
Exactly. Its such a strawman argument. I genuinely don't know which representation is correct, but its wild that even when it is a 3D model like Google Earth, you still get distorted sizes as if we have no units of measurement on Earth lol
Because the distortion induced at a particular latitude applies to everything at that latitude simultaneously. Showing the distortion only on the sea and not the land would make the map even more inaccurate and out of wack.
Every method of projection from 3D to 2D involves compromise. Different projections compromise in different aspects; each having their own strengths and weaknesses.
What bothers you about it? The maps, or that the teacher is a loon?
The speaker in the video obviously projects a lot of other ideas to her students, mostly unrelated to maps. That's a problem, but it's small and easy to fix with real information when the kids come home or get into a better classroom.
Which anyone who uses it for navigation thoroughly understands. Because the distortion is a convenience for navigational simplicity. I get the idea that hardly anyone here has looked at maps.
This thread is split between those who understand the concept of a projection map and those who could not find their ass with both their hands when they are sitting on them without a GPS.
They would be unable to navigate a greasy stick up a dogs ass.
"The distortion is just a cold hard fact of reality unless you want to carry a globe" - me
I recommend OP carry the largest possible globe at all times as a conscientious way of combating this problem and of waving the flag for those who have never flown, sailed, ortienteered or perambulated with intention but who wish to call into question age old techniques for doing so.
It will wind up looking like a starfish. The only practically useful part would be near the pole of the unpeeling, which gives rise to the polar projection maps used for latitudes above 60 degrees. Most regional maps are local polar projections, as the angular radius is seldom very great and the distortion is minor. There are some very interesting projection systems that attempt to reconcile minimal distortion with true semblance of continental relationships. Buckminster Fuller created an unusual projection concept of representing the globe as it would be projected onto the surface of a surrounding polyhedron. The map stretches out quite a bit, but it preserves a high degree of accuracy and it is possible to show the continents all connected. The oceans are divvied up, however.
From the northernmost point of Canada to the southernmost point of South America, all the people in here are Americans. North Americans. Central Americans. South Americans. These are all Americans. You can't put up a wall to keep Americans out because we're all Americans! [Emphasis mine.]
Not really. All they knew at the time was where they were. Distances were effectively measured in days of progress from one location to another. It was crucial to go in the right direction and be in the right place. A day or so variation in trip time was normal. Let's say your automobile odometer is broken and doesn't register, but you have a map. Is that a problem, or is that a "no big deal"?
Why not have accurate maps portraying the world? How many Billions does Google have invested into mapping and views of the map from projects like Google Earth? Why not just portray it correctly for educational purposes.
From what i understand you can never make an accurate map of the world without distortions because the East is a sphere.
Honestly, this is the least of our problems to worry about. Who cares what’s portrayed at the center of the world as long as people wake up to understand who has been ruling us all this time. That’s the only thing that matters.
Then use another map. There are many other projections. Since you evidently haven't been paying attention to RandomNumber's posts, you are missing the fact that the Mercator projection was devised specifically to facilitate navigation.
Anyway, you realize you cant say Mercator projection is any better, its impossible to have navigation benefits. If youre going around Greenland and judge by that map, youll think youre travelling much faster than you are, when you end up on the other side in 1/20th the time it would take to get half way across Africa.
Use logic and discernment. Its not that hard to imagine why this map makes no sense to keep using.
It's funny how you don't know that actual maps that people navigate from are much smaller projections with the scale and miles marked directly on them.
See how you go using a world map to navigate local backstreets.
Your comments only reflect the fact that you don't know how to use a Mercator projection. No one imagines the length scale is constant across the map (the horizontal scale varies as the cosine of the latitude). The point is that North is always vertical (on the map) and you can use that to determine your heading to your next objective point. It will not be a Great Circle, but it will get you there.
If you know the coordinates of two points, you can use spherical trigonometry to find the distance.
When a 3D arrangement is displayed on a 2D surface, you have to pick only one of 3 parameters to preserve:
Angles
Or
Distances
Or
Areas
In the usual Mercator projection, ISTR that distances expand with the cosecant of latitude (North & South), which is why Greenland, Canada & Russia look so yuge.
this womyn invented the term virtue signaling. My God her constant race baiting to maintain her self perceived importance and relevance is suffocating... boil down her entire narrative to the following #whitepeopleareevil. There is no such thing as white people and black people. There are light skinned Europeans and Moors
There are 10 World map projections (all used for specific reasons), the most familiar being Mercator and Robinson. First being shown here is a Gall-Peters (cylindrical world map projection). Not saying their aren't conspiracies as we obviously know many are true, but go educate yourselves as well.
Isn’t it this way because it is impossible to accurately display a spherical map, on a flat surface?
Correct, and the main distorted map we use works perfectly for ship navigation, so a straight line on the flat map points to the correct compass heading for navigation to that location in real life. Folded paper is much more convenient than a giant sphere model.
So we basically draw like a "fish eye" lense view of an unwrapped earth on a flat paper so that when we fly or sail we go where we point?
Basically yeah, if you use a ruler and pen and measure the angle of where you want to go then follow that angle on a compass bearing, it will work. Apologies for the vox link xD.
You can but it wont be a rectangular or circular map, it would be like peeling and orange and laying the peelings flat
We learned this in grades shool.
The best way to do it is to make multiple slices from top & bottom about 90% to the middle.
This allows the peel to have tips/points at thd poles & very little distortion in the middle.
100%. Updooted.
This is why
We should still buy Greenland.
Yes!
"Hello sirs of the Green Land, I'd like to pay you with fake ponzy paper for all your land! Just name the price and we can print it!"
I think it might just work! :")
:> penguin sounds
🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧
...and invade Antarctica... if only for her secrets
No. We're not all "Americans". That is retarded AF.
Yeah thats not what my point is about.
Agree, not the point you were trying to make. Its the point that the old lady tried make......
She tried to make several points within a point.......which is great. But Im calling her on that stupid AF last remark.
save yourself some time and just call her stupid at life.
Keep pushing lady. You are close to the truth
When she said you can’t build a wall, we’re all Americans she revealed her brainwashing.
The Mercator map isn’t/never was a Papal psyop, it’s a navigation tool. That should be explained to school kids, not that “white people” or “Christians” are shown as bigger and better. Commies gonna commie, but this one’s a zombie. Commie and don’t even know it.
Exactly this.
I hear what she’s saying but then she says, “you can’t put up a wall…” Yes we can lady.
Eh, you can't expect people to understand everything.
Phew..thought it was the current definition of "maps"
Kek.
Nope! Fuck those minor attracted persons too! Bullet to the brain for pedos (through law).
I love the "through law" tag on... I'm going to start using it.
lmao. Its a good way to avoid saying youre calling for violence. Cause Im not. Im calling for laws to be changed :-)
Exactly
Listen honey, we can, we should, and we will put up a wall. We are all humans too but we have boundaries. A second grader can tell you that.
I'm old enough to remember when there were stores with just maps & globes🐸
Except there is not an ocean in the himalayan mountains
Exactly. Its such a strawman argument. I genuinely don't know which representation is correct, but its wild that even when it is a 3D model like Google Earth, you still get distorted sizes as if we have no units of measurement on Earth lol
its simple. Take an orange peel, gut it, then try to flatten it on the table.
Its not going to come out square. Its going to come out looking like this:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS13tpRKPKQOumsIiEXFKqOCSiuXdqoya8UYQ&usqp=CAU
I dont think this is a conspiracy, its just physics
it is when ur going from a 3d sphere to a 2d map
thats why the closer you get to the poles, the more distorted everything gets. I.e. greenland is bigger than asia, africa is massive towards the tip
More fundamental than that. It is mathematics. One must use spherical geometry to determine distances and angles on a globe.
Add size to the waters, not the land.
Think about it. Why not add water on the google maps, and not adding land.
Because the distortion induced at a particular latitude applies to everything at that latitude simultaneously. Showing the distortion only on the sea and not the land would make the map even more inaccurate and out of wack.
Every method of projection from 3D to 2D involves compromise. Different projections compromise in different aspects; each having their own strengths and weaknesses.
u/#buildthewall
What bothers you about it? The maps, or that the teacher is a loon?
The speaker in the video obviously projects a lot of other ideas to her students, mostly unrelated to maps. That's a problem, but it's small and easy to fix with real information when the kids come home or get into a better classroom.
That's what I noticed more than anything, evidence of the communist teachers in the schools since the 70s.
Most people don't care and have no idea of the importance. You could say the same for demographics.
If so, then you would expect the effect in the Northern Hemisphere to be repeated on the southern hemisphere .....
It is just a totally distorted map, indeed.
Which anyone who uses it for navigation thoroughly understands. Because the distortion is a convenience for navigational simplicity. I get the idea that hardly anyone here has looked at maps.
This thread is split between those who understand the concept of a projection map and those who could not find their ass with both their hands when they are sitting on them without a GPS.
They would be unable to navigate a greasy stick up a dogs ass.
"The distortion is just a cold hard fact of reality unless you want to carry a globe" - me
I recommend OP carry the largest possible globe at all times as a conscientious way of combating this problem and of waving the flag for those who have never flown, sailed, ortienteered or perambulated with intention but who wish to call into question age old techniques for doing so.
Yes indeed, and used it to navigate, or to establish their own maps.
I guess, a good start would be to take an orange, paint a figure on there, peel the orange of the jacket and flatten it, and see what happens.
It will wind up looking like a starfish. The only practically useful part would be near the pole of the unpeeling, which gives rise to the polar projection maps used for latitudes above 60 degrees. Most regional maps are local polar projections, as the angular radius is seldom very great and the distortion is minor. There are some very interesting projection systems that attempt to reconcile minimal distortion with true semblance of continental relationships. Buckminster Fuller created an unusual projection concept of representing the globe as it would be projected onto the surface of a surrounding polyhedron. The map stretches out quite a bit, but it preserves a high degree of accuracy and it is possible to show the continents all connected. The oceans are divvied up, however.
Add more water to the maps, cause its redundant. Keep the land to scale.
Thats my solution. This map we currently use doesn't make sense Logically, or for travel and navigation.
Google maps doesnt portray proper sizing and ratios either
Squaring the circle or so they say
Circle times a circle is a globe Circle^2 = globe
https://xkcd.com/977/
From 03:46.
Um, no. No. Nope. No. Just no.
Learned this in 9th grade geography...what a fucking low IQ post holy shit.
And the fact that half the people here don’t understand how projections work is sad.
Half the people here think “I don’t understand why a flat map can’t accurately portray the globe, therefore maps and globes are all lies”.
The distortion was to create the illusion of Christianity spreading to a much wider area in the world than reality.
But in this day and age, as far as optics are concerned, what is the real impact of this distortion?
I am just going by the content of the video.
As for travelling, wouldnt the scale distortion actually cause more problems for navigation?
Not really. All they knew at the time was where they were. Distances were effectively measured in days of progress from one location to another. It was crucial to go in the right direction and be in the right place. A day or so variation in trip time was normal. Let's say your automobile odometer is broken and doesn't register, but you have a map. Is that a problem, or is that a "no big deal"?
Is my fuel gauge operational or broken as well?
No. You always know what is in the hold. You always know where you are. You can plot your progress per day.
So how is the point about odometer broken relevant?
It's like navigating if you cannot measure your distance traveled directly. It turns out not to be necessary.
"to make u.s. look bigger and better....nailed it!
"we are the center of the world" mindset.
Why not have accurate maps portraying the world? How many Billions does Google have invested into mapping and views of the map from projects like Google Earth? Why not just portray it correctly for educational purposes.
From what i understand you can never make an accurate map of the world without distortions because the East is a sphere.
Honestly, this is the least of our problems to worry about. Who cares what’s portrayed at the center of the world as long as people wake up to understand who has been ruling us all this time. That’s the only thing that matters.
Add more water to the maps, cause its redundant. Keep the land to scale.
Thats my solution. This map we currently use doesn't make sense Logically, or for travel and navigation.
Then use another map. There are many other projections. Since you evidently haven't been paying attention to RandomNumber's posts, you are missing the fact that the Mercator projection was devised specifically to facilitate navigation.
Funny that you got +4 upvotes in 30 minutes.
Anyway, you realize you cant say Mercator projection is any better, its impossible to have navigation benefits. If youre going around Greenland and judge by that map, youll think youre travelling much faster than you are, when you end up on the other side in 1/20th the time it would take to get half way across Africa.
Use logic and discernment. Its not that hard to imagine why this map makes no sense to keep using.
I want my navigation benefits !!!!!
It's funny how you don't know that actual maps that people navigate from are much smaller projections with the scale and miles marked directly on them.
See how you go using a world map to navigate local backstreets.
Your comments only reflect the fact that you don't know how to use a Mercator projection. No one imagines the length scale is constant across the map (the horizontal scale varies as the cosine of the latitude). The point is that North is always vertical (on the map) and you can use that to determine your heading to your next objective point. It will not be a Great Circle, but it will get you there.
If you know the coordinates of two points, you can use spherical trigonometry to find the distance.
When a 3D arrangement is displayed on a 2D surface, you have to pick only one of 3 parameters to preserve:
Angles Or Distances Or Areas
In the usual Mercator projection, ISTR that distances expand with the cosecant of latitude (North & South), which is why Greenland, Canada & Russia look so yuge.
Yer woman is full of the brown stuff.
No. I'm not a Navigator/WSO.
this womyn invented the term virtue signaling. My God her constant race baiting to maintain her self perceived importance and relevance is suffocating... boil down her entire narrative to the following #whitepeopleareevil. There is no such thing as white people and black people. There are light skinned Europeans and Moors
What a dumb fuck. Hope she gets her 5th booster.
https://www.jamesjpn.net/government/abraham-lincolns-views-about-rome-the-pope-the-vatican-the-jesuits-and-their-influence-on-american-society/
There are 10 World map projections (all used for specific reasons), the most familiar being Mercator and Robinson. First being shown here is a Gall-Peters (cylindrical world map projection). Not saying their aren't conspiracies as we obviously know many are true, but go educate yourselves as well.
Just another distortion of the truth about our world.