If we pass up everything as a 'false flag', we can unknowingly harden our hearts to the possibility that something very evil and catastrophic has happened to civilians around the world with certain events.
It's very important to be cautious of believing everything we hear and see....but it's equally important to understand that evil is very real and does impact the way of life. And terrorists/wicked people do exist and create unimaginable evil.
If we go around saying 'none of this is real....it's all a movie, they're all actors, etc.....It can be a slap in a victim/s face/s over denying such wickedness and evil acts, when it could very well be real and really happening. I just feel uncomfortable passing up everything as 'not real, false flag, when it could be the very opposite.
False flags have real victims. What makes it a false flag is the identity of the perpetrator is disguised. You are thinking of hoaxes.
This!! Anyone here think they just strolled across the most secure border in the world is nuts. The people are being sacrificed to play to peoples good nature. To justify a war. Doesnt mean there are no victims..the majority of wars a designed and paid for . Not germain.
This Isrrael situation does not smell right at all. Not all false flags are victimless productions.
Well yeah, 911 was a false flag and the eventual outcome was hundreds of thousands, if not millions died.
Millions fren. It was millions.
Millions died. Billions of dollars of infrastructure destroyed. Trillions wasted.
And just to think that the Covid jab has killed more people world wide than Americans that died in the Civil War, Korea, Vietnam, WWII, the Gulf War and Afghanistan combined.
Features of exponential population growth.
Exactly. I was speaking to my dad about this who frequents fox news. No one made it through the strongest border on the planet without permission. People don't start wars or fake wars, governments do. And I refuse to play their game and choose a side. Even if innocent people were hurt in the process.
Fletcher Prouty said of JFK, "you can't just assassinate the president. Rather, you allow it to happen." Or something along those lines.
Meaning, it is politically expedient when some of these things occur that, unless allowed, would never have happened
As though most people ever had the option of saying no, don't assassinated out president.
Moreso the idea that one lone nut can't do it, unless the government apparatus stand down enough to let it happen. Look at the space in the line when Reagan was shot. 🤔
Smart dad. He's seen this shit before.
He is a smart guy but he was taking sides based on what mainstream media was saying, was my point. I pointed out to him that there was no way this was organic
Indeed.
OP is not around and someone is downvoting factual posts in the thread. I think a good poster should acknowledge when something they said is corrected.
PRobably OP. Some people don't take criticism well.
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
Kek well played fren. 😂😂😉
What does this mean?
I don't think it's good to start a thread then abandon it when the responses aren't totally in agreement.
Who said she abandoned it. Who says she even read your message. Let's not assume
Let's just see. It's a pattern I have seen in other posts so as a general statement I stand by it.
"I think a good poster should acknowledge when something they said is corrected."
Remember you didn't make a general statement you made a specific assumption about a person. Even if she never returns to this post we still cant assume her heart in why.
means op is butt hurt.kek
Yup. A false flag can be a real event whilst pointing fingers at someone else.
Say the government nuked New York under the guise of Russia in order to spark a hot war with the people's emotional approval:
Real victims. Real event. But false flag. As for the people who were injured or killed and those surviving them, sure I feel bad -- but these are direct consequences to our government's actions and the Israeli government is most certainly involved in that too.
So in the end: I feel bad. Doesn't mean I'm willing to support giving them cash or start a war over it.
I think this is the point here. What happened was horrific. But it’s almost impossible to imagine that they could have gotten past the border without some assistance. Whether it was a false flag, or whether it was just allowed to happen, the coordination and timing make it seem highly improbable that this was just a successful surprise attack.
Now the deep state has another war, and another crack at starting WWIII. Cue another dozen endless rounds of funding and US involvement in a war on the other side of the world as things fall apart at home. And now innocent Palestine civilians will be killed just like the innocent Israeli civilians that were killed. Nothing good can come from this.
If it was allowed to happen it WAS a false flag. Real event, wrong perpetrator. It may have been Hamas dudes who had no idea they were being used by higher forces. I can assure you this, those dudes DID NOT get past the first barrier without the entire IDF knowing everything that was happening, who was doing what, and where. Not a chance in hell.
And with more endless rounds of funding, we can expect for OUR prices continue to increase. That's why I share the sentiment with many others here. We are perpetually gaslighted to feel a certain way about others, but where is our support? No one from any other countries are coming to save us. So while I can and will pray for the innocent lives taken abroad at any time, we need to get our house in order first.
False flag vs fake flag. There's a difference.
False and fake are synonymous for this purpose so no, there's not. "Fake flag" doesn't exist as terminology as used in this manner.
They are not synonymous in this context. A fake flag is a staged event - Newtown, ChristChurch, Pulse Nightclub, etc. A false flag is a real event with casualties - 9/11, Harvest Festival, etc.
I have literally never heard "fake flag" for this purpose until today.
Searching "fake flag" on communities yields no result.
Searching "fake flag" on Reddit yields no usable results in several pages.
Googling "fake flag" yields results of an unrelated experiment, and a result for Wikipedia's entry of false flag.
Bing is the same results.
Brave is the same results.
It was widely used during the Voat days when analyzing various events. It's an apt differentiator.
Used on one site, vs common nomenclature.
Outside of Voat, false flags are used to mean false flags of all kinds -- crisis actors or real victims both.
Regardless at this point we are arguing semantics which does no good for anyone really.
Interesting because could we not say a fake flag victimizes people? Just as Jessie Smollett was a hoax or a fake flag-the victims and their intent was to hurt white people and cause a culture war?
To me it is a deception done by evil. The perception of defining each event causes strife and leads to unnecessary conflict within the same team.
That is why they do it. We have to learn how to fight again and many are growing up big and strong. We are going to have millions of like minded people.
So strong that all we need to do is ask o e simple question to another and their answer will show us all about them and their ideology.
The patience for evil is dissipating before our eyes. Yet will still love our neighbors and help. Evil is being rebuked at a fantastic level. In fact evil is infiltrating at a higher level because it knows.
No … but we have an opportunity here to do just that. FAKE FLAG … A Jesse Smollett type bullshit accusation. He stirred up a racial shitstorm but the ‘act’ had no real casualties. Also, the Las Vegas shooting could be somewhere in between. There were a shit ton of crisis actors in that crowd. I managed to save (before it got scrubbed) the testimony of an ER doctor in Vegas that said “casualties” would be brought in, taken to an ER room, literally hop up off the gurney and walk out the back fukin door. The doctor said it happened at least 3 times he witnessed. The true ‘target’ was the Saudi crown prince who avoided becoming a casualty, but there were ‘casualties’ (the ‘shooter’ they found dead in the Mandalay Bay hotel room). A shit ton of these school shootings dont add up either. Not all, but a ton of them have known crisis actors pop up. Anyway, there is definitely a difference.
A false flag doesn't mean no one was harmed. It can also mean it was intentionally allowed to advance an agenda. Think 911 or Pearl Harbor, bad things happened and people died, but both could have been prevented. They were allowed to happen to place the blame so that war could be justified. The same is happening in Israel. There is no way 400 idiots on foot and hang gliders managed to sneak across miles of open desert and attack Israel without Israeli Intelligence knowing they were coming. Several former IDF border watchers have said nothing, not even a bird or a cockroach, can get across the border without being detected and immediately investigated.
Q told us 5 years ago that Israeli Intelligence would stand down.
u/#q2337
Exactly.
"How do you start a war" - Q
https://greatawakening.win/p/17rSZqbO2b/future-proves-past--trump-truth-/c/
What is the context of the Q drop? Why would a media asset be removed?
Possible counter move if they didn’t stand down.
Remember the 3-letter agency attacks in the Las Vegas shooting incident?
That had real victims too. False flag though.
If you think a 3-letter agency cares one bit about you or your family... think again.
I still think the Vegas shootings were an attempt to go after Bin Salman.
Of course they were
That is EXACTLY what that was. 100%. Also, the Israeli music fest attack happened 6yrs, 6days, 6hrs from the date/time of the vegas shooting. You cant make this shit up.
There were a shit ton of fake casualties. That place was littered with crisis actors.
The censorship and bots on other forums is naturally going to skew discussion here towards the skeptical side.
People who exhibit skepticism aren't the enemy. They're trying to sort through the lies so we don't end up doing stupid shit based on programmed emotional responses.
What about all the OTHER evils they do not want to pay attention to? They want us to pay attention to this particular evil, WHY?
WE have no guilt. We are against ALL evil against ALL innocents.
We will NOT however let THEM choose the news narrative and manipulate our emotions.
False flags are intended to do JUST THAT -- to DIVERT your attention to precisely the victims they choose to use for political aims.
False flag does not mean it did not happen. It means -- it is intended to be used to manipulate your emotions and response. Just do not let that happen.
I CHOOSE to not let my emotions be manipulated and USED for political gain. I do not feel guilty in the least. There are more than enough victims to help. I can choose without the narrative of the latest thing. SHEESH!
False flags are when they lie about who caused the event. Real people can and usually do die.
Lahaina and Israel are suffering big time right now. They’re covering up Hawaii bc they don’t want us to figure out the land grab. They want us to see Israel to traumatize us and embolden us for war.
Real Ukrainians and Russians are dying in that war.
Real South Africans are being butchered.
Real Europeans are being raped and murdered by “refugees”.
And real Americans will die when they start riots and activate the sleepers the WEF and UN have paid to invade us here.
Evil is on display.
The various state backwoods militias will not stand idle if they try to pull those stunts here. They may take some victims but most definitely in for a world of hurt if they try it on U.S. soil.
False flags like 9/11 have real victims. The issue is who orchestrated the events. Not if victims really died or not. Of course the victims die.
Like Lahaina and the missing children and school buses, Where are the children? Wasn't Space Force operating there? Shouldn't they know? I don't know what to think.
Unpopular opinion: My theory is there are no missing children. It was an emotional narrative designed to drive HI support (money) and simultaneously lead anons in the opposite direction of whatever truth was being obfuscated.
Everyone missing there got incinerated in the firestorm.
They r being saved by white hats
"False Flag" does not mean the incident is fake.
"False Flag" means that whoever did it made it look like somebody else did it. They used a "false flag" instead of their own.
The expression comes from the way pirates would sneak up on a cargo ship by flying, say, the flag of France. The cargo ship thinks they're friendly and lets them get close. Then the pirates yank down the French flag, hoist the jolly roger, board the ship, and steal everything.
They used a "false flag" - one that was not their own - to carry out a real crime.
It is very real, and I hope it ends soon. I am sick and tired of innocent human beings and especially children being massacred . But, I believe this was allowed to happen and that the Israeli authorities were, and have been, capable of knowing about this, and letting it happen because they want to rid themselves of Palestinians in their borders, they want to drive them off of their land, permanently, and this attack could have been prevented with their state of the art technology they have for surveillance. Why was the dance party in the desert not surrounded with aarmed security? How does someone in a beat up backhoe repeatedly ram a fence without alarms going off all over the place? What of the balloons that constantly observe the barriers, the sensors, cameras, etc not picking up on this? It is actually more horrible for the victims that their nation gave them false senses of security and were not able to stop it in its tracks. Even MSM is repeating this question, why?
The Old Testament is the history of how God's chosen people are lifted up and unbeatable when they follow the commands of God. When the chosen turn their backs on God he (eventually) turns them over to their enemies.
You have to wonder if what we're seeing from Israel is the result of God cleansing His chosen.
The wondering about things is what led me to start reading and pondering and praying over the Prophets in the Old Testament, using real life situations now, in Israel, and reading about God's anger with Judah and Israel. There is not one prophet that goes to the people to say, "your'e doing a great job folks, keep it up".
Well they were celebrating a "holy day" by rolling & tripping on club drugs at a music festival.....
Yes, have some respect ...Unfortunately There are ALWAYS victims, no matter the 'scenario' ...🙏🏻🙏🏻
False flags often have very real victims. Knowing you are watching a movie doesn’t mean real people are not harmed. Q said the ending will not be for everyone. Perhaps fewer of us will survive the coming years than I once believed! I can have compassion for the people harmed by the very real bombs and terrorist attacks while knowing this is setup and managed by the Khazarians!
U don’t understand what is false flags
Attack was on the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles which is a commanded Holy Day for all. Just like the attack on Yon Kippur in 1967. False flag, hoax, still a lot of innocent victims need our prayers.
Muslims just want to kill all infidels, especially Israel.
I don't think you understand the meaning of False Flag
I think this post is a false flag
As we have seen in history, "false Flags" initiate REAL wars. There may be a few actors here and there, but real people still die. Even when we see the signs, and recognize the reality of the flag, there are a lot more who do not.
A false flag doesn’t mean it is not real.
If you were on a ship and you were a pirate and you put up an English flag and attacked another ship. The other ship and survivors would think an English ship attacked.
Then the survivors would demand England be held responsible for that attack.
England would say it was not them that attacked. The pirate/you who were hired by another to do such a thing. See you were paid to act as an English ship.
Wisdom is needed and haste makes waste. Notice how hastily they attacked after the false flag happened. This is like in a football game when a false call is made the team who will benefit from it will hastily try to do another play in which will nullify the bad call the ref made.
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False flags doesn't mean the happenings aren't real, a false flag is something used to distract you, to look here, not there. Like the Antifa riots the destruction is very very real, but they are being used to distract you. They're paid to destroy.
This is a very poignant post. Thank you. I appreciate you.
false flags can & very often do, have real victims. the attack can be real, but the who & why is what is often "false" about them.
it's very important to know definitions to words & phrases.
Also understand that what we are told in the news is not the same as what is happening on the ground.
There are a couple of possibilities:
As we've been saying here, Mossad and CIA are highly capable, but ignored this in order to allow the attack to proceed or took an active part in planning and executing the attack. This theory supposes the motive of creating justification for occupying Gaza, creating a distraction from Ukraine, and driving oil prices higher for fun and profit.
Mossad and CIA are highly capable of collecting data, but could not appropriately analyze it. Their focus on Ukraine drew resources from watching these threats and Hamas was able to capitalize. The timing was especially unfortunate with IDF being caught on a Saturday, directly following celebration of a high Jewish holiday.
Mossad and CIA are not highly capable. They are overrated organizations that have been weakened by the same mind virus that the US military and the rest of the collective west have. They were incompetent and now that has been demonstrated to the world.
The "intelligence" community will never reveal which, so we can only speculate. "We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong. We need more money and power." Expect to hear that shortly.
False flags are not acts. They are deliberate events staged by the deep state to divert attention. No matter what people died, but if we do as they want and divert our full attention from the issues we encourage other events like this. Yes people died and yes we should mourn and be respectful. Does that mean we now give Israel a billion dollars to launder while our borders are being invaded and our own people are struggling to eat? Sorry but NO
9/11 had victims too, but it was also a false flag.
of course it's real and we should pray for the victims.
someone said Biden gave money to iran and left weapons and stuff in Afghan that were in turn used for Hamas? I heard gossips like that going around..so is it basically a circle jerk leading up to this event. i suppose if you give money to someone, you basically is the boss and can tell that person to go do certain things? I have no idea about anything
THANK YOU!
More helpful to the very real victims to expose the REAL perpetrators than to do what everyone else is doing.
It is possible for 2 things to be true. Somebody let Hamas kill a ton of civilians, and the world would be a better place without any Philistines
This hits a bit personally. Because actual Americans are actual victims, and not only is there hardly—if ever—a mention of US citizens being killed or raped or worse, but we’re told to put our attention elsewhere.
So, there’s no way to bring my two cousins back, nor does anyone care to fix the injuries my wife and I suffered in two different accidents—caused by illegals that should have been here. Those two SOBs were deported, but have returned, btw.
I don’t care for any other country or people until this one is taken care of.
To be clear, false flag doesn't mean that nothing happens and there are no consequences, it means that there is a bad hand behind it all.
False flag does not mean fake. Real casualties and crimes against humanity. It means planned not spontaneous.
Thank you for this. I had to drop off here for a while because I get frustrated with the conversations that don't solve anything but create conspiracy porn everyone can feel special around. This situation certainly has things we don't know and lies, but it's a long long, historical issue as well.
THANK YOU!
We have been bombarded way, way too much during the past 6 years. Hardly a week goes by without releasing scathing, one-sided only MSM robotic reporting and discussion
I think it's getting harder and harder to figure things out. Our rabbit hole has to be, at the very least, 2023 mies deep by now.
The truth is out there. We must be alert, be adept at playing both offense and defense positions, research everything to the best of what we can actually access, and above all pray, love your children, and always do the right thing.