Bullet sponges... haven't heard that one before. Agreed, I was figuring they were going to try and dangle a carrot in front of those they pushed out. You could see it coming with the new recruitment ads - trying to appeal to while cis men - real men. No thanks. Go F yourself.
100%, this is a precedent that forces a foot in the door for altering what were normally permanent records of service. Meaning the absolute worst of service members can have their criminal deeds expunged
As much as people would want our unvaxxed boys to bite back and spit on this peace offering, we should consider allowing our unvaxxed boys at lease petition to get their Dishonorable Discharge records corrected.
A dishonorable discharge note on your military record is the same as a serious felony conviction (like rape and murder). Which means no owning guns, no right to vote, and you can find your job/career opportunities much diminished. A removal of such a note would be a huge boon to those chafing under these unjust circumstances.
Getting the dishonorable discharge changed should be automatic. They shouldn't need to apply or go through any process.
Additionally, there should absolutely be no way anyone who was discharged for refusing the vaccines should ever go back into service as it was an affront to humanity. But this part is my personal opinion. The first part is just objective fact.
It's clear that they are trying to get people back because they want a war, and I think they don't like the rhetoric that people from both sides would rather turn against the government than face a draft for themselves or their children.
You know it is or they wouldn't be trying to get soldiers back, besides the ones that got the shots have weakened immune systems now and probably sick all the time or have a heart condition.
The woke US Army needs canon fodder for WWIII. If I were a serviceperson who left due to the jab mandate, I wouldn't return until PDJT is in office, God Willing.
Conservatives are so oppressed and deluded that forcing dishonorably discharged vets to jump through a series of flaming hoops that will take months, perhaps years, to see any resolution, is being called a win.
No, Mr. Draino, this is not a win. This is looking at a win through a telescope and imagining it's closer than it is.
Trust me, I was in the Army for a decade. It will happen like this: IF you go to your local recruiting station to return to service, then your request will get expedited and you'll be back in the service in 30 days.
If, however, you merely apply to get your discharge status reversed, that process will take years, and at some in the process you'll be told "You know, if you just return to service, this will take less time." It will end up being blackmail.
DC Draino says this is a "rare win for the good guys", but he can shove it.
Why does some letter from a "Brigadier General" make things better??
It doesn't bring the organs back that I lost from the vxxes. It doesn't rewind the "almost died" that I put my family through 3 times. It doesn't bring back the job I lost because I wouldn't take the vxx to finish me off. All in service of the government.
Why would anyone join the military ever from now on?? It's dead!!
You are spot-on. This is not a "win," and just more spit in the face of soldiers who (RIGHTFULLY) refused to get an experimental treatment. I'm sorry for your own personal troubles because of this crap.
I would have thought honour is a very important issue for people who serve their country. It is not a light switch that can be toggled on and off like this. If vax-sane people got slandered and were told they were not fit to serve for not accepting the poison shot, surely they are not going to turn around and believe this kind of nonsense.
How can you stand at post knowing that the service itself was dishonourable, how can you fight for that service with pride - knowing how disgracefully they treated you.
When I read this letter I think:
a) they think very little of the people they sent this to, and
b) the people that sent it are desperate and really, really stupid
and I agree with magaphraust - there is a lot missing from this letter if they are to have any hope of getting their best back.
It’s a win, and it’s not. Big picture, this was not their plan. The goal was vax passports, digital control, 99% acceptance, and a never ending series of mandatory vaccines anytime they chose. Forcing it on the military was an easy way to immediately get the numbers up, and remove persons prone to resistance or critical thinking.
They failed. Society as a whole resisted in far greater numbers than they accounted for. This includes the military. Society is also resisting the DEI agenda far more than they expected, and this includes the military. The clot shot and bullshit DEI has been killing their recruiting for 3 years in a row now. They are getting desperate.
Attempting to get discharged members back in is an obvious response to their abysmal recruiting numbers. Just like their newest all white male army ad. We can expect this to continue. They will do everything they can to reverse the image they have created for themselves in the past 3 years. It’s just an image.
If I had gotten discharged badly I would apply to get that corrected. An honorable discharge from a good job in the military carries as much weight as a college degree, sometimes more. My company prefers tech rate veterans over college grads. We are not the only ones. Of course I wouldn’t be signing back up.
A real win would be firing of every single flag officer who was on board with the policies that they are now reversing. A public apology to anyone they kicked out over this dumb shit. Accountability.
It’s better than nothing. My brothers can now get their correct honorable discharge. They have had to publicly beg for them to come back. This obviously was not their plan, and they don’t want to be doing it. But it doesn’t mean they have changed.
There is a purge coming in the pentagon. Just like everything else, the people had to be shown the truth. How bad the officer class has become. How out of step with both the military and the public. Baby steps.
Yeah, only if you sign back up and fight the new jew war. Also, I use Siri talk to text, she refuses to use the word jew. I have to hand type it in. 😂🤣
Um, how about the stupid Army just review all the folks they threw out for rona related bullshit and restore their good names. You gonna force them to do work to fix your colossal fuckups.
Great point! Army can call you back after you leave, I believe its for 5 years after you leave. So this is a bit of a rock and a hard place for these guys. Keep the dishonorable and they can’t be called back. Change it to honorable and they can get called back?
They only want them to come back so they can send them into the next war to be used as cannon fodder. They should wait for Trump to clean house before they go back.
Since the jab requirement was to force out a large part patriotic service members i.e. Trump supporters who could think for themselves, and prevent that same group from joining up, I don't see this happening, but if it did, in light of the deep state warmongering when no national interest is a risk, I don't see these people rushing off to rejoin.
Biden is getting ready to get our troops into wars. Don't go back. The only people that need to be in the US forces are they/thems and alphabet people. Let them fight the fights for their government gods.
Yeah, but why would you? If to get back pay or pension or something, sure, but certainly not to go fight for this corrupt, evil institution ever again.
They aren't doing anyone a favor if they can't get anything out of it themselves.
Remove or change the reasons for discharge and it's pretty much like "never happened", am I wrong?
Sure, with enough digging the original reason would still be recorded somewhere to be found, but someone would have to know to dig.
This is kind of garbage in my opinion, it should include:
Anything less is a joke.
The only reason they are doing this is because they need canon fodder. Their new woke Army can't get the job done.
Correct, their recruiting numbers are the worst ever, and they need their bullet sponges back,
Bullet sponges... haven't heard that one before. Agreed, I was figuring they were going to try and dangle a carrot in front of those they pushed out. You could see it coming with the new recruitment ads - trying to appeal to while cis men - real men. No thanks. Go F yourself.
Anyone that got kicked out should NEVER go back. Why? Because they would do it again in a heart beat if it benefits them.
And as an added bonus they can get those who refused to go die for Israel.
“A rare win for the good guy” says the jew who gets more soldiers for his bullshit holy war. Fuck off.
"Other than honorable" most likely.
100%, this is a precedent that forces a foot in the door for altering what were normally permanent records of service. Meaning the absolute worst of service members can have their criminal deeds expunged
I hope many of these men and women are successful enough to be able to tell the Army where they can stick their letter.
As much as people would want our unvaxxed boys to bite back and spit on this peace offering, we should consider allowing our unvaxxed boys at lease petition to get their Dishonorable Discharge records corrected.
A dishonorable discharge note on your military record is the same as a serious felony conviction (like rape and murder). Which means no owning guns, no right to vote, and you can find your job/career opportunities much diminished. A removal of such a note would be a huge boon to those chafing under these unjust circumstances.
Getting the dishonorable discharge changed should be automatic. They shouldn't need to apply or go through any process.
Additionally, there should absolutely be no way anyone who was discharged for refusing the vaccines should ever go back into service as it was an affront to humanity. But this part is my personal opinion. The first part is just objective fact.
It's clear that they are trying to get people back because they want a war, and I think they don't like the rhetoric that people from both sides would rather turn against the government than face a draft for themselves or their children.
Recruitment down much?
You know it is or they wouldn't be trying to get soldiers back, besides the ones that got the shots have weakened immune systems now and probably sick all the time or have a heart condition.
The woke US Army needs canon fodder for WWIII. If I were a serviceperson who left due to the jab mandate, I wouldn't return until PDJT is in office, God Willing.
Just don’t sign up for more than 4 years.
Yup!
But I wouldn't trust them. They could come up with another mandate once they get the numbers back.
Conservatives are so oppressed and deluded that forcing dishonorably discharged vets to jump through a series of flaming hoops that will take months, perhaps years, to see any resolution, is being called a win.
No, Mr. Draino, this is not a win. This is looking at a win through a telescope and imagining it's closer than it is.
Trust me, I was in the Army for a decade. It will happen like this: IF you go to your local recruiting station to return to service, then your request will get expedited and you'll be back in the service in 30 days.
If, however, you merely apply to get your discharge status reversed, that process will take years, and at some in the process you'll be told "You know, if you just return to service, this will take less time." It will end up being blackmail.
DC Draino says this is a "rare win for the good guys", but he can shove it.
Why does some letter from a "Brigadier General" make things better??
It doesn't bring the organs back that I lost from the vxxes. It doesn't rewind the "almost died" that I put my family through 3 times. It doesn't bring back the job I lost because I wouldn't take the vxx to finish me off. All in service of the government.
Why would anyone join the military ever from now on?? It's dead!!
You are spot-on. This is not a "win," and just more spit in the face of soldiers who (RIGHTFULLY) refused to get an experimental treatment. I'm sorry for your own personal troubles because of this crap.
Why would I join the Military that made a Dishonorable Discharge a badge of honor?
This is perfection.
I would have thought honour is a very important issue for people who serve their country. It is not a light switch that can be toggled on and off like this. If vax-sane people got slandered and were told they were not fit to serve for not accepting the poison shot, surely they are not going to turn around and believe this kind of nonsense.
How can you stand at post knowing that the service itself was dishonourable, how can you fight for that service with pride - knowing how disgracefully they treated you.
When I read this letter I think: a) they think very little of the people they sent this to, and b) the people that sent it are desperate and really, really stupid
and I agree with magaphraust - there is a lot missing from this letter if they are to have any hope of getting their best back.
It’s a win, and it’s not. Big picture, this was not their plan. The goal was vax passports, digital control, 99% acceptance, and a never ending series of mandatory vaccines anytime they chose. Forcing it on the military was an easy way to immediately get the numbers up, and remove persons prone to resistance or critical thinking.
They failed. Society as a whole resisted in far greater numbers than they accounted for. This includes the military. Society is also resisting the DEI agenda far more than they expected, and this includes the military. The clot shot and bullshit DEI has been killing their recruiting for 3 years in a row now. They are getting desperate.
Attempting to get discharged members back in is an obvious response to their abysmal recruiting numbers. Just like their newest all white male army ad. We can expect this to continue. They will do everything they can to reverse the image they have created for themselves in the past 3 years. It’s just an image.
If I had gotten discharged badly I would apply to get that corrected. An honorable discharge from a good job in the military carries as much weight as a college degree, sometimes more. My company prefers tech rate veterans over college grads. We are not the only ones. Of course I wouldn’t be signing back up.
A real win would be firing of every single flag officer who was on board with the policies that they are now reversing. A public apology to anyone they kicked out over this dumb shit. Accountability.
It’s better than nothing. My brothers can now get their correct honorable discharge. They have had to publicly beg for them to come back. This obviously was not their plan, and they don’t want to be doing it. But it doesn’t mean they have changed.
There is a purge coming in the pentagon. Just like everything else, the people had to be shown the truth. How bad the officer class has become. How out of step with both the military and the public. Baby steps.
Tgey need ti be restored to former position WITH BACKPAY!!!!!
Yeah, only if you sign back up and fight the new jew war. Also, I use Siri talk to text, she refuses to use the word jew. I have to hand type it in. 😂🤣
DoD/ Army/ military shit the bed really bad on this one.
I hope they are not surprised. Everyone here made it clear to them that this would happen.
Um, how about the stupid Army just review all the folks they threw out for rona related bullshit and restore their good names. You gonna force them to do work to fix your colossal fuckups.
Dishinorable also means they cant call you back
Great point! Army can call you back after you leave, I believe its for 5 years after you leave. So this is a bit of a rock and a hard place for these guys. Keep the dishonorable and they can’t be called back. Change it to honorable and they can get called back?
I know you cant reenlist, assuming they will skip you on call backs. Id expect they wont.
Initial enlistment typically cover 8 years, 2,3,4, pr 5 years of active duty the remaining in the Inactive Ready Reserve (IRR).
It also means no VA benefits, gi bill etc.
And at bottom of the letter misspelled "military". Nice
They only want them to come back so they can send them into the next war to be used as cannon fodder. They should wait for Trump to clean house before they go back.
LAWSUIT.
the top officers in the military that backed these programs need removal.
Hanged*
Drawn and quartered.
hanged is for humans, so more like hung. kek.
Wow...that's mighty White of them...
(clears throat) FUCK YOU!!
Since the jab requirement was to force out a large part patriotic service members i.e. Trump supporters who could think for themselves, and prevent that same group from joining up, I don't see this happening, but if it did, in light of the deep state warmongering when no national interest is a risk, I don't see these people rushing off to rejoin.
Good for them! You know who is still dealing with vaccine mandates? Me. https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
I'm sure it's not World War III about ready to kick off being the reason that they're doing this I swear Democrats are so freaking ridiculous
So the ones who are considering going back can look forward to being around a whole bunch of vaccinated peers? NO THANKS!
Biden is getting ready to get our troops into wars. Don't go back. The only people that need to be in the US forces are they/thems and alphabet people. Let them fight the fights for their government gods.
They can shove their “apology” letter where the sun don’t shine.
Yeh, because they are short military and can’t recruit. I could have told the upper brass idiots that would happen. The
Such an unexpected and sharp reversal of this mandate, really does reconfirm that Patriots Are Now In Control (PANIC).
Or they're desperate to get recruitment numbers up.
Time to sue. This is an acknowledgement they were wrong.
Yeah, but why would you? If to get back pay or pension or something, sure, but certainly not to go fight for this corrupt, evil institution ever again.
They really are desperate for more "white" males.
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They aren't doing anyone a favor if they can't get anything out of it themselves. Remove or change the reasons for discharge and it's pretty much like "never happened", am I wrong?
Sure, with enough digging the original reason would still be recorded somewhere to be found, but someone would have to know to dig.
Sue those mf'ers