Some Taxes Could Soon Be Deemed Illegal by the Supreme Court | Live With Josh
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All taxation is theft.
Agreed.
Apparently this case is not whether the taxation is unconstitutional, but whether declaring it unconstitutional is too big of a hit on government income.
This flies in the face of the Supreme Court, which is supposed to uphold the Constitution irrelevant of the consequences.
THIS.
Are in truth Covfefe?
Are what in truth?
Two people upvoted, so they must know what it means :p
If you are in Truth Social? There is one CQvFEFE I follow but I do not if it is you. @Truthserum321
nope, not on any "social media platforms" other than message boards like this
Oh ok. Thank you.
Moar of this.
Correct, but those with power almost never vote to abdicate that power, so nothing will happen.
Easiest prediction ever, right above "The sun will rise in the east tomorrow"
1000% correct!! and return all that has been stolen from us plus interest!!
Totally agree. They are stealing money from us big time.
I'd be fine with taxing remittances to foreign countries that's about it.
Tariffs should be the only taxes collected.
Amen
If deemed illegal, we damn well better be reimbursed for past illegal payments.
This!
Would be nice but highly doubtful
The whole thing is a scam. Read the codes and you’ll see none of it actually applies. Do you work for a trade or business? Are you an employee?
As for reimbursement, lol. You were duped and it’s your fault. Not a popular opinion but it is what it is. Change the future, not the past.
Good points. I don't have 'income' - I make a 'salary', which, at its inception in the Legions over a thousand years ago, and until the 20th century, was defined by being free of state levy. However, I am a coward and 'register' (like chattel) with the US govt. We are property. They are human farmers.
Your body IS your property. Your labor (creation) is also your property. You don’t make a salary, you trade your property (labor) for another (fed notes). Registration is voluntary, if you know how to stand your ground (without a lawyer, Luke 11:52)
I am not paid in 'fed notes', i am paid a check with a digital representation of my salary amount, fractional to the dispersment covered - numbers on printed paper issued by my employer, not the Federal Reserve. The legal language in ink on paper, constituting my agreement with my employer is 'salary' paid per annum, in the Latin.
...and if you have read Luke in the original Greek, I will eat my hat.
How? Printing more money (hidden tax) to back pay your tax? The government can't produce
At least at that point it becomes obvious to room temperature iq types that the fed is a Ponzi scheme
Lol I know. I said it out of principle not of actual expectation.
Please please please make income tax illegal.
Then the states will decide they can tax the people even more. 🙄
And property taxes.
Iirc, income tax was made constitutional by the 16th amendment
This
Doesn’t matter if it was ratified or not. SCOTUS has already ruled Congress had the power to tax income prior to the 16th amendment. The problem is that they already defined income with the definition we use today for capital gains, and they’ve made it abundantly clear on numerous occasions that wages are not income. Taxing wages IS unconstitutional. The IRS made up the term “capital gains” (notice the marxist lingo?) to complete the ruse, and they imprisoned anyone who’a tried to call them on it, and SCOTUS stopped taking those cases ages ago.
It was ratified by 42 States in 1913 (only needed 35 to ratify I think):
Edit: 36 to ratify, my mistake. Delaware was the 36th.
GOOD!
THIS WILL SHRINK THE GOVERNMENT'S MONEY PIPELINE AND IT'LL HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS RECOVER FROM INFLATION
I believe in a government so small that it can fit inside of a woman's body and deny them abortions
The "30% of your paycheck goes straight to Zionists in Israel" tax.
And the other 70% goes in through a money laundering method, so not as straight
And then they print extra to give them as well so your spending power is diminished.
Then they use this money to pay off politicians so that the scam never stops
But first they loan it to themselves using fractional reserves to get 10 times the original amount then charge interest on what is deposited and loan it out again and again.
Ukraine statist would be more accurate: https://www.foreignassistance.gov/
As long as it's going to someone that's not your family would be the all encapsulating category.
start with property and inheritance
Sorry, The Personal Income Tax should come first, for a myriad of reasons, which I will clarify later.
A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. ~~Thomas Jefferson
No worries, I think this is a topic that needs to have more discussion, and people accept taxes as something that "just is". I suggested property first for the sole reason of having actual ownership of real property. Too many times people have lost the homes they have literally built with their own hands b/c the mechanics of the taxes on property create the myth of ownership. If personal taxes are nixed, they could still hold out on releasing property tax for various BS reasoning, and no one would ever own land again, regardless of how much you keep of your income. If no taxes were paid, eventually the cabal would own it.
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I'd agree with property before income or anything else.
Property tax makes it impossible to own your property. The government owns it. This is far worse, I feel, than having to pay a portion of whatever your income is.
One thing to consider is that it's only ever a percentage of what you make, whereas if you get a property and then lose your job, you may not even be able to afford the taxes on it. Whereas with income tax, you don't have to pay tax on an income you don't have.
An income tax is much more in favor of freedom than a property tax. With income tax, you can in theory quit your job and live off the land. With property tax, you can get fucked and die with nothing to show for it, since even if you do try to live off the land in the middle of nowhere without ownership, it'll be taken from you the moment you get anywhere since you wouldn't own the land you're trying to live off of.
Obviously income tax is shit and should go as well, to be clear.
Dec-07-2023
A case now heading to the Supreme Court could make many government taxes illegal. Legal experts believe that a key ruling on this could cost the federal government several trillions of dollars in lost taxes. And that also means American citizens would have trillions of dollars in money that isn’t seized through taxes. In this live Q&A with Crossroads host Joshua Philipp, we’ll discuss this topic and others, and answer questions from the audience.
It drives me absolutely insane when the phrase "could cost the federal government" is used - If I'm stealing money from you, and you find out and shut down my ability to do so, you didn't cost me money. I wasn't entitled to it in the first place.
I believe the case relates to reinvesting investments, and if tax is due at re-investment instead of at the time the income is realized in cashing out. I read a similar headline a couple days ago. I don’t believe the issue is tax on wages. Hope I’m wrong.
Money not stolen is not lost.
If you'd like a 3 hour tax podcast livestreaming SCOTUS oral argument in Moore, well here you go:
https://youtube.com/live/-EoE3v7mJuE
The vocal fry of the Solicitor General is infuriatingly glib.
Read the constitution. We've all been paying a lot of taxes we shouldn't have been.
Starve the Beast!
Would be nice but I doubt the liberals and many republicans would go for this. They can’t start enough wars to make up the difference no matter how hard they try.
T rex here...can't get past paywall - 12 ft io never works for me, guess I'm not doing it right...anyone have a workaround?
Thx
https://rumble.com/v3zzew1-some-taxes-could-soon-be-deemed-illegal-by-the-supreme-court.html
He talks about it in the first 6.5 minutes.
While I don’t disagree, it will be a cold day in hell before any court reverses taxes…
Even if they deem some unconstitutional, WILL THEY HAVE THE GUTS TO DECLARE THEM ILLEGAL?
All of them!
I'd like my money back, in gold & silver please & thank you (and what has been stolen from my parents & their parents too while they're at it)
I can’t wait for that. Hopefully states too. They are charging for everything and the states are getting away with that to give money to illegals
They cannot legitimately "Tax" the fruit of ones labors. SCOTUS rulings and Amendment ratifications that are contrary to the original intent of the Constitution are null and void by default.
Taxation was a major topic for our founder when establishing our Republic. They were very clear in how and what, as well as what was forbidden. There is also a reason why you hear the income tax was voluntary. The only people required to pay were those working for government.
All services were to be provided by private business. There was to be no standing army. There was to be no entangling alliances, or treaties that created one. There was no foreign welfare, nor domestic. Welfare was not the province of government. There would be no government offices or agencies, other than what was explicitly provided in the Constitution. Anything beyond that was reserved for the States, and the citizens themselves. In other words, FORBIDDEN to federal government.
Those comprise just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
Here is one reason, hat tip to u/weholdthesetruths: https://greatawakening.win/p/17rmOEZr4Z/x/c/4Z7QrUx7Cnj
They will never touch it. Mark my words.
I think the word you want is parasites.
6%? No, if you count government contracts to private companies, it's well over 50%
Some people did some things.
Just told my sister yesterday that income tax is illegal and we are slaves to the machine. We pay because if we don't, we go to jail. 😤 I am sure politicians are hoping this goes their way, otherwise, all governments will have to cut their budgets, bigly.
I'll take 'Who is Wesley Snipes' for $1500, Alex.
https://people.com/movies/wesley-snipes-reflects-prison-time-tax-evasion/
Federal tax (gibs going to other countries), mafia tax to protect us from the boogiemen the deep state funds with our own taxes , idiot tax (lotto), inflation, property tax, inheritance tax, insurance, taxing our health by promoting cancer causing chemicals, spiritual tax through subjugation of culture and history, the list just goes on.
Make it retro active to the first day…. Kind of like reparations.
The government waste trillions of dollars all around the world except here in America. This act is long overdue