The UFO Deception Explosion of December 2023—Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, David Grusch, & Much More
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My biggest fear is that Tucker, Rogan, Musk and all them are just grooming anons to accept some AI - UFO - antichrist. They do what we love by using woke as a strawman punching bag to bulidup "street cred" and we'll follow them right into the arms of antichrist.
May it not be so.
Prepping the masses for the alien invasion. We must all unite under the NWO to save the world.
Exactly. Regardless if they are real or not, everyone can agree logically that they don’t want us dead or invade us if they do exist. My understanding is that would mean they have an understanding of space and time to travel, so technologically wise they could just vaporize the planet in half a second or eliminate space and time on the planet. Either side of the fence doesn’t matter, invasion is exactly what you described and a giant psyop and if it would come to that, I would not put it past them to actually do some real damage a have a few false flags
If they're demons, they most certainly want us dead, God just doesn't allow them that level of control.
Demons though would be/are extra dimensional vs extra terrestrial
Some aliens are referred to as "dimensionals" because they exist at a frequency outside of our perception. If they feed off of our energy, especially fear, they're demonic.
There definitely are some of those when you venture into the spirit world via things like deep mediation, astral planning, sacred plant ceremonies etc..those entities are being kicked out of that realm as we are raising the planet's frequency they cannot survive. I have experienced those entities but I personally cannot say for sure if they are a form of alien, but no doubt there are many things outside our 3d perception that is beyond the 5 sense. In terms of physical aliens say outside our solar system, there definitely is a case to be made, but from my understanding they would be more "observing" us to see how we evolve consciously and don't want to really interact as humans are destructive to themselves. I have heard that if that is the case, and are out there, they would possibly intervene in a nuclear war as that would have negative affects on the quantum entanglement of the universe.
With that said I have never had interaction with an extra terrestrial so unless I do personally, I am not prepared to say it is 100% fact that they exist or don't exist.
I have no first hand knowledge either, but so many have said that they did. And now there is testimony in front of Congress. My take is, if they're here, they're sneaky and I don't trust them. I trust the development of AI even less. Until we get justice and transparency, I'm guarded.
"...because they exist at a frequency outside of our perception."
People call those "dimensionals"?!?!?
WHY?!?
"Oh no, this thing is infrared...Oh no, this thing is ultraviolet...Oh no, this thing emits sound in the ultrasonic range!!! IT MUST BE FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION OMGWTFLOLROFLBBQ!!!!!!!!"
I'm not mocking you. I am mocking what you have said. Please understand the difference.
What if they are just energy based? As in, they wholly exist within our dimensions of space and time, but are energy based life instead of material based?
I did notice the whistleblower talk about how maybe it’s what we all need to unite us. It felt creepy and staged
More like the NWO is prepping us to serve the alien masters......
Your alertness to this is right to have, because eventually - it WILL happen - and in Jesus' own words, we are to be looking.
Luke 21:7-28
7 So they asked Him, saying, “Teacher, but when will these things be? And what sign will there be when these things are about to take place?”
8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them. 9 But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.”
10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. 12 But before all these things, they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and rulers for My name’s sake. 13 But it will turn out for you as an occasion for testimony. 14 Therefore settle it in your hearts not to meditate beforehand on what you will answer; 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom which all your adversaries will not be able to contradict or resist. 16 You will be betrayed even by parents and brothers, relatives and friends; and they will put some of you to death. 17 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. 18 But not a hair of your head shall be lost. 19 By your patience possess your souls.
The Destruction of Jerusalem
20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
The Coming of the Son of Man
25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
They aren’t acting like it’s a good thing.
THAT’S your biggest fear?
Extrapolate what happens if they (supposedly truthtellers) push UFO alien is the savior of mankind. Think about how staunch Christians who oppose this idea would be treated.
I guess the way they’re already treated? And that matters because?
You’re not thinking this through obviously. These beings will be treated as gods, again try extrapolating the behavior of those who will be deceived.
If those beings exists, you’ll need to accept the possibility that they were the very people the people of the old testament were worshipping in the first place. Yes. But GOD is still greater than them. Regardless of who seeded this particular planet, regardless of who planted the first humans here or who genetically engineered them, they still aren’t GOD. And I’m guessing they would admit the same should they be asked. I’m not worried about who other people choose to worship and you shouldn’t either.
I’m not worried about who/what other people worship. I’m saying that the appearance of the “savior aliens” will be a diving point between ALL people- forcing them to choose sides. Almost like taking the vaccine was a couple of years ago.
I disagree. If aliens have something to offer us. Take it. Something to teach us? Learn it. But even if I found out the God of the Old Testament that led the children of Israel out of Egypt was an alien, not only would that not bother me OR surprise me, but it would have zero to do with who/what I think GOD really is, and something tells me these Aliens, whoever they are (if they exist at all) would agree with me. I’m not scared of any truth. Any revelation. Any visitation. In the words of the wonderful Walt Disney “Always let your conscience (the Holy Spirit Jesus spoke of) be your guide.” Maybe you need a little more faith in humanity, and need to exercise a little more faith in GOD to show you how to help others discover truth for themselves.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A3xI-DPLdWI
The lost century and how to reclaim it
I encourage every anon to watch this with an open mind. It is by Steven Greer and not about aliens. It’s about just how deep the military industrial complex goes. We are so more technologically advanced then we are led to believe that some will have to fight cognitive dissonance hard when it comes to free energy. Watching this having heard about DJT’s relationship he had with his uncle who is rumored to have Tesla papers (real Tesla, not Elon Tesla) makes it compelling af that some things we can’t even imagine already exist.
A big cognitive dissonance part will be the part of “climate change” or whatever you wanna call it. Where both sides are right and wrong. By that I mean in our current system we have to drill drill drill to sustain, but is also hurting the planet long term and just really not necessary if we in fact do already have the technology and it is simply being suppressed from us. Which makes us right and wrong. But Dems are also right that our way of living is not sustainable 7 generations ahead but they have a completely flawed understanding of the whole thing and their “solutions” are nothing more than money grabs. Which makes them both right and wrong.
Trump did say we will have flying cars.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/03/03/politics/donald-trump-freedom-cities-flying-cars/index.html
According to some testimonies in this we are 100 + years behind where we should be as a civilization
u/#q142
Burn it all to the fucking ground President Trump!
I've always thought it very suspicious that despite spending trillions on R and D over the decades, we have only better versions of the same technologies we've had for 50+ years. And still no cure for cancer? Really? Does that even make sense?
Follow the MONEY. 👨⚕️💉💊
Exactly, it is like we have been at a standstill for decades with a few "upgrades" thrown at us 'useless eaters' like mobile phones and ipads and the world wide web etc...in terms of transportation it is like we haven't even had those said "upgrades" besides EV I guess which is so counter intuitive, same goes with energy besides those retarded solar panels.
To think of what the world would be like today if those said 5,800+ patents would have been available to the public is not even fathomable
No
Patriots, this will be the next big attack on the spiritually weak. It is up to you to tell them the truth or they will fall prey to it. This attack could really fuck up a lot of people.
I think it is of no consequence to our faith. The Bible and Jesus are the story of Gods relationship with Humans. If God created other creations on other planets it does not take away from Gods relationship with us as humans.
Agreed. If God wants to do "X" then God may very well in His own right do "X." God doesn't need to pass it by me first in order to let's say, create life millions of lightyears away in this vast incredible universe He spoke into existence. It's like finding a Jellyfish and saying "well God didn't tell me he created THIS one!" and getting mad about it.
Belief in the Trinity is a requirement to be a Christian. How can there be a Trinity if there is a savior for every alien species that God supposedly created? Unless of course Jesus Christ goes to every alien world and appears to them as they appear. But then Jesus Christ isn't fully God and fully Man. He's fully God, fully Man, and fully Martian.
It just doesn't work.
Well, now you're getting into the extra terrestrials having souls and needing salvation because they have fallen. That again, because I don't know 100% yes or no, falls completely into God's realm and I'm not going to chastise the thought simply out of fear of mocking God if for instance He has Christians millions of light years away on another planet. It doesn't minimize what Jesus did for us, and God doesn't have to check in with me to make sure what He's doing is able to be processed in my small insignificant brain.
I really think it's a non issue in the grand scheme because we are simply unable to do anything about it if it were true or false.
Space has always been mesmerizing to me and it will never cease to amaze me how beautiful and amazing it is out there.
Reasonable enough, fren.
I mean, on the one hand, I want to argue that we can know truth and should declare it for the glory of God, but on the other hand, I'd be remiss to argue against you simply reserving judgement to not step on God's toes, as if that's a bad thing or something kek
I also love space, if you couldn't tell by my name ;).
Likewise, I suppose some of my ironically hostile argumentation towards many things space related recently may be a result of all the lies told and deceit by the cabal. Hard to just enjoy the thing I love when there's a concern over a co-opting of it by evil people for their evil goals.
Hey man! I agree that there is truth and the most important truth in God's word can and must be known 100%.
When speaking about things like this Deut 29:29 comes to mind. I'm not sure what the "secret things" specifically consist of have you ever done a study on it?
Well I think if the Bible is true then those secrets are going to stay secrets lol. If we knew anything about them, they wouldn't be very well-kept secrets.
So no, I haven't looked into that, but I'd wager that we wouldn't find anything if we tried, and if we did, the Bible is either fake (not this one) or they would fall into the second category of things that are revealed (this one).
“….is a requirement to be a Christian.”
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There’s a creed. A profession of faith. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are in it. There are also numerous Pauline references to what’s required to believe and profess Christianity. The Trinity is fundamental to Christianity.
For an interesting take; Dr Michael Heiser speaks knowledgeably on “The Divine Council”. He also wrote some science fiction type novels featuring “aliens”. Good stuff.
lol and when did that creed show up, friend? You sound like a child parroting what he learned in church at age 12. My God. Christ would be so disappointed in those who call themselves Christians today. Completely missed the point. How you managed to wriggle free of the Catholics but not the dogma of Paul is beyond me.
Jesus Christ is God. The trinity is the basis of Christianity.
You don't get to claim that doctrines that have been rejected by all of Christianity for 1500+ years are Christian. Even if they are wrong, they aren't Christian.
This argument is like saying Islam and Christianity are compatible and worship the same God. It's just not true.
There are doctrines one must believe, and to not believe them is to not believe in the same God as people who do believe in those doctrines.
Christianity is not for everyone, in the sense that if you reject the basic tenants, you don't get to just make up whatever you want and claim to be Christian. It IS for everyone, in the sense that you can repent and become a Christian by giving yourself over to God.
Also, the Catholic Church is the One True Church. You don't have some special knowledge of ancient deception or whatever. To keep it simple, God wouldn't have allowed such a thing because it would completely contradict His nature to do so.
Christ started the Church and made Peter the first Pope, our history is accurate enough to confirm what it needs to about the faith, and there wasn't an extended period of hundreds to a thousand plus years when God left the faithful high and dry living in deception unable to truly know Him.
And before you pull out all the lazy arguments: I wasn't raised Catholic, and only became one recently after previously converting to Christianity, which I only did after getting involved here on GAW 4 years ago and getting all the anti-Roman Catholic Church talking points hammered into my head over the years.
You have a point. I’m trying, with admittedly limited success to disabuse myself of the notion I actually “know” anything at all. Thanks for reminding me how stupid I really am. I read some stuff, and repeat it but I wasn’t there, so I can’t really say for sure.
My dog died suddenly today. It makes me feel like being extra nice to everybody, as life’s too short and uncertain to spend it in recriminations. Thanks again. Best wishes in this life, and maybe, the next.
Jesus Christ did not write the bible and Jesus did not found Christianity.
The Roman Empire founded the church and was in control of what was allowed in the bible.
This is poppycock.
Council of Nicaea. 325 AD.
That was for the Catholic Church, The true church existed before and still exists today apart from the Catholic Church. If the catholic church would be the only church and the true church then there would be any scripture whatsoever authorizing such an organization but I read 0 entries in the New (or old) testament regarding the pope and it would be impossible to have the catholic church without the pope.
The Catholic Church is the True Church.
This is what all early Christians believed and continued to believe for over a thousand years.
It's also just evident that a doctrinal authority is needed. If nobody agrees on doctrine, nobody is worshiping God, but their own interpretations of the Bible and thus of God.
Acts 2:38. No cathedrals, no infant baptisms, popes, nuns, monks. Just Christians.
The pope is and always will be a flawed man who pretends to be God. If he is so ordained then how in the world did Galileo get put on house arrest for saying our solar system is Heliocentric?
You mean the council where Emporer Constantine opened up by making himself subordinate to the bishops?
Let's straighten this out.
The councils didn't decide on a whim what books should be in the canon. Instead, they more or less recognized and affirmed what was already widely accepted and used by Christian communities.
Think of it like this: The councils weren't picking books out of thin air. They looked at what most Christians across various regions were already considering authoritative and divinely inspired. It's more like a ratification process than a selection process.
So, the councils didn't play a "Let's choose random books" game. They were more like, "Hey, these books are already being read and respected by the majority of Christians. Let's make it official."
There were probably thousands of writings, they included what fit the Roman Narrative.
Indeed, there were numerous writings circulating at the time. The councils, rather than trying to fit a "Roman Narrative," aimed to discern the writings widely accepted and used across diverse Christian communities. It was more about finding a common ground among believers than pushing a specific agenda.
The process was complex, but the idea was to ensure unity in the essential teachings of the faith. So, while there were many writings, the councils focused on those that resonated most broadly among Christians.
Since you don't explain why I have to assume that you're just triggered.
The comment I’m responding to offered no evidence/explantion for their assertions.
Matt. 16:15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
I love this exchange have you ever done a word study on it? Petra vs Petros. Peter (Petros) means small rock or piece of stone the "Rock" his confession (Petra) is a massive boulder. Peter goes on to be a wonderful man save for denying Christ but everyone of them forsook Him. However this verse does not confirm Peter in a position above any of the other disciples / apostles at the time. But merely the power in Confessing Jesus as Christ and all that comes with it: belief, repentance, and baptism.
Yeah, no. If anything the councils that determined what books were inspired and which were not excluded many false books that were known Roman Empire creations meant to cause division among the Christians. Now people call these “the lost books” but they were never lost, they were known frauds even AT THE TIME. If the Romans were in control they would have included such books.
Q posts can be wrong. Military intelligence isn't all knowing. And they could also be right but misattributing real UFOs as belonging to space aliens when it's just demons.
A God great enough to create this world is certainly great enough to create as many other worlds as there are stars.
By the way, who translated the original bible to English? Think they could have changed a few things to appease the Earthly powers of their time?
No, I find it hard to believe that among all the numerous English translations that every single one of those different authors lied about that.
Surely at least one would have created a faithful translation. But the idea that none did? Too big a leap to make and to then still claim that they were good Christians all in pursuit of truth while they were happily breaking one of the 10 commandments.
The word for “world” there is “Kosmos” (cosmos/universe).
Were those understood as different back then? What did the authors intend to convey?
The Bible is quite clearly all about Mankind, not alienkind.
That’s like saying “because the Bible is about humanity it doesn’t speak about angels/messengers.”
Firstly, the Bible is completely centered on Mankind.
Secondly, It is unreasonable to compare humans and any other created thing, due to the uniqueness of humans.
Following this, it is unreasonable to assert that a comparable species to Mankind exists living on other planets.
There isn't a shred of evidence that there exists a comparable species to us. The angels aren't. Other animals aren't. To discount our uniqueness within the creation is to discount the way the Bible is written.
And to allude to some idea of each species having their own Christ and their own Bible centered on them, while not inherently unreasonable, is completely theoretical and unsubstantiated. There's no reason to think it's true, at least not any more so than to think that "aliens" are just demons.
Do you think all aliens are demons?
Yes.
Exception could be made for an "alien" that sings the praises of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those ones might be angels.
The dude says directly in the beginning that humans are the only beings made by God that have reason.
That's so incredibly dogmatic and arrogant, especially since the universe is absolutely huge!
And why is this stickied by the way? I got a ban the other day for talking about what aliens have possibly been doing to us, but this dogmatic Christian extremism is allowed on this website and is even stickied. Very disappointing.
Saying perfectly reasonable things that have been accepted by every intelligent mind for thousands of years is "dogmatic Christian extremism"? Yea, I think you're the crazy one here, buddy (however I'd agree that doesn't sound like a good reason for you to get a ban, though I don't know the full context or the mod's side of it)
And yes, Mankind are quite clearly and evidently the only beings made by God that have reason. There is no good evidence to the contrary that can't be explained in alternate ways (angels/demons, government experiments/secret tech, etc.)
Some paintings have huge backdrops with no people in them, and only have a subject in the foreground. Why is viewing God's creation like this any more absurd than your view?
LOL at this entire thread.
Well…… and then there is that possibility. We don’t know exactly for sure how he is “physically” going to arrive. Last time he was born here. So since he is still alive what will the physical view look like of Christ arriving…
The book of Enoch of course has some amazing descriptions of how things “could” happen or look like, vs Revelations. This guy in the video does not discuss the book of Enoch much, and I think because it in itself would have a strong argument against a lot of what he presents, and the book of Enoch is factually one of the original Old Testament Books, before the 2nd Council of Nicaea had it and 16 other “gospels” removed in the late 700s.
Of course there is the Anti-Christ as well, that could “officially” arrive (show his face) by UFO. So there is that too. Though I think most believe the Anti-Christ is already here. Klaus, Soros, Gates, and/or Harari all make evil candidates.
Well the Anti-Christ has been here for quite sometime. I John 2:18 ; I John 4:3
Well but I think there are versions correct? Like not just one… And they all work for stupid Lucifer.
Hmmm I wonder if he knows I just called him stupid amongst a few other choice names insulting his intelligence? Kek!
Exactly, Anti-Christ is a significant title placed on someone who is against Christ not necessarily one big scary individual but many people with a spirit against Christ and His Church fall perfectly inline with the definition of Anti-Christ as John said even back then, "many."
The Son of Perdition however seems to be one person but I can't quite place my finger on it or whether this person has come and died already or if it's something to come in or after our lives currently.
Interesting. I always put my finger on Harari because it’s said he’ll be a man with deep biblical knowledge that rebukes the Bible and assaults God’s ideals for mankind. And Harari really goes to town on such when he talks. But again it sure is most likely a number of evil folks.
1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Well Jesus said he will return in the manner in which he left so descending from the heavens seems like the odds on favorite.
Well I know Christ/God has already been in communication. The Q-Posts prove this, since we have no other way to gain 6-7 years of perfect future information that is so on point by dates, events, and people mentioned.
Game and String Theory, “Remote Viewing”, “Project Looking Glass”, and even Kim Clement were never so precise. Though Kim Clement has been proven time and again proof true in our current times, compared to when he first presented his sermons.
I only see Divine intervention as the only way those Q-Posts came out so correct.
Huh? I spoke only of what Jesus said of the manner of his return. I don’t care about Q or Kim Clement. I care about Christ.
I think I gave you props though as you were correct.
You're not alone.
What dispensationalists miss is that Jesus Christ has returned "in the clouds" through the Holy Spirit.
Jesus Christ reigns in the church.
https://communities.win/c/RevelationOfJesusChrist
The white hats being in direct control of everything is a perfectly fine explanation the way I see it. Then all they have to do is cause events that line up.
Though, it's certainly possible that God is guiding the (true) leaders of our country to see His Will be done. Just don't see how it's the only possibility.
White hats can’t control certain people still being alive, and actual events happening. The Q-Posts aren’t good guesses. They are precise proofs to Future Proves Past.
They aren't guesses, but they could be control.
I don't know about you, but I don't know any of these people who have died. Most of us only find out when the media tells us.
Not hard to control the 3 or 4 companies that release that info.
This is in no way a definite fact.
Yes it is, since the Council of Nicaea in fact removed the Book of Enoch from the Bible. If they hadn’t removed any books, the Apocrypha Books, then it wouldn’t be a fact now would it.
Do some research and stop thinking the modern day Bible is 100% factual, and not edited and contextualized for control by the Vatican.
Any biblical scholar worth their weight knows the Book of Enoch is an original Book of the Bible. Oh and the Dead Sea Scrolls say so as well, as does the non-Vatican-edited Ethiopian Bible; which happens to factually include all of the Apocrypha and additional, original gospels/books, that the Councils of Nicaea had removed/edited out.
It is 100% factual. I trust God, not the cabal. To believe God allowed the cabal to corrupt the Bible is to trust their ability to corrupt more than God's ability to preserve.
Faith in God must reign supreme over worldly distrust.
And the Dead Sea Scrolls aren't the Bible. That's like saying a library is all one book. It was a collection of manuscripts and in fact did a great job proving the Bible hasn't changed in 2000 years.
I am curious about the Book of Enoch though, and intend to get around to reading it, but it is not the Word of God. Doesn't mean it doesn't have valuable information, but it's not the Word of God and any claims that it is are at this point pulled out of thin air.
And the Vatican edited nothing. God wouldn't allow this. Instead, God guided His Church to ensure they included the right books in the Bible, and not just every work that any random sect decided they liked the sound of. It was authoritative, as scripture must be. It was perfect and infallible, as God ensures. And it was by a council guided by the Holy Spirit, as is evidently needed for authoritative truth.
Remember, before the declaration of what was canon, everyone had their own disjointed collection of books with no authoritative position on what was the Word of God and what was not. If that WAS how it was meant to work, well that's just another argument for the necessity of the recognition of the authority of the Church.
Most "biblical scholars" are far more interested in their secular scholarship than in the Bible. As a result, they are frequently wrong because they discount the obvious, but miraculous, explanations for things.
Finally, from a brief look at the Ethiopian Bible, well, it doesn't exist. Now, I admit this was just a brief look at the shit source that is Wikipedia, but the claim is that they don't even have a compiled version of their own canon.
From the article:
"It is not known to exist at this time as one published compilation. Some books, though considered canonical, are nonetheless difficult to locate and are not even widely available in the churches' home countries of Ethiopia and Eritrea."
If true, that's hardly a good look. They considered it so inspired that they don't even have any copies. Maybe they're all locked up in the Vatican Library and that is why they are hard to find? Alternatively, God didn't preserve those extra-biblical books because they aren't His, and instead preserved the version that became the best-selling book in all of the history of Mankind. I suspect you'll take the former, but I'm obviously going to settle in with the latter.
And I'd appreciate it if you didn't hit me with the "you're just brainwashed by the Vatican" or "do more research" or "you just don't want to accept the truth because it would contradict your beliefs". I don't even agree with the basic logical premises that are required to come to such a conclusion as the Bible being corrupted. This isn't a research issue or an "accept the truth". It just doesn't make sense to me for God to give us a scripture that can be corrupted. It's either all His, or it's all made up.
Excellent reply.
Their argument is tantamount to saying “God can give us a message, but can’t preserve it.”
Doesn’t make sense.
Another thing that doesn’t make sense with their argument is that they would have no way of knowing something has been “corrupted” unless they knew what the “uncorrupted” version was.
Questioning corruption implies a standard of purity or correctness. If someone claims corruption, they implicitly acknowledge a presumed unaltered state. The assertion that the Bible has been corrupted is self defeating.
Thanks, fren.
Also,
Really like this argument. Might just start using it myself :)
The silly thing is, you’re arguing against solid facts. I’m not saying anything that isn’t researchable and false. You really don’t understand the Vatican, the Council of Nicaea which was FACTUAL, or Constantine’s power grift and Biblical Control, or post-Constantine Roman emperors, towards the Bible and Christianity. Why was the group that created the Dead Sea Scrolls obliterated by the Romans? You need to dig deeper than covering for the Vatican my friend. They’ve done much more damage than good for the whole world, and are still in cahoots with the Cabal, like me saying so or not. And the truth is coming soon, and the Vatican will burn for all it as an institution has done.
We'll see, fren.
And the thing is, I think all the same things are true from my perspective.
I think everything I've said is solid fact.
I think you can research the history and come to the same exact conclusion I have.
I think the logical backing of my argument is perfectly solid.
And I 100% categorically believe that the truth is coming soon, and the Deep Church will burn and God will keep His Church preserved through the machinations of the Devil.
God will preserve His Church as he clearly always has, evidenced by the fact that no institution so incompetently run could have stood for 2000 years. This is further proven by the fact that no other institution does. At least not publicly, which is very unlike the cabal. They love renaming their institutions and even themselves every so often so no one can track them down.
“The Catholic Church is an institution I am bound to hold divine – but for unbelievers a proof of its divinity might be found in the fact that no merely human institution conducted with such knavish imbecility would have lasted a fortnight” ― Hilaire Belloc
Yep good points. Christ did encourage that the whole Earth was a church. Christ himself rarely if hardly mentioned holding his services in buildings at all. He just gathered people around him…. or actually they just gathered around him, and he taught open air style. Christ was also very straight forward. His recorded words don’t waver idea to idea. Each one is it’s own and solid. And if he repeats anything it’s identical except when he talks parables, when the Apostles weren’t fully paying attention. That’s when I laugh with Jesus. He’s actually funny, and only told parables when people heard him but weren’t listening. So he repeats his lesson in a story that takes more time to think through and sink in haha like duuhh!
Jesus has a great sense of humor.
Sure, but I do believe when He said "And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" that He was referring to a specific, physical Church body. The building isn't necessarily important, I suppose, but is just an extension of the having one body decide to build things. But the fact it's one body of believers that all hold to the same doctrine given down by the Church Fathers through the guidance of the Holy Spirit is I think important.
But yea, 100% agree with Jesus being funny. I find it quite funny reading about the Devil trying to tempt Jesus. Like, yea, good luck buddy. And Jesus always had the perfect response to hit back with. It's like putting salt in the wound. The Devil knows exactly who Christ is, knows preciously that the temptation won't work, does it anyway only to fail, and then Christ lays down an absolute banger in response. Every. Single. Time. Kek.
The Council of Nicaea, convened in AD 325, primarily addressed theological issues, such as the nature of Christ, and didn't have a specific mandate on the canon of Scripture. Canonical discussions evolved over subsequent councils and centuries.
The claim that the Book of Enoch was removed by the Council of Nicaea oversimplifies the canonization process. The Book of Enoch was influential in some early Christian circles but wasn't universally accepted due to theological divergences.
The assertion that the modern Bible is edited and contextualized for control by the Vatican oversimplifies the diverse history of biblical translations and interpretations. While translations have evolved, the core biblical texts have maintained substantial consistency across various Christian traditions.
The inclusion of unique books in the Ethiopian Bible reflects a localized canonization process that considered specific cultural and theological factors, as is common in different Christian traditions globally.
The Dead Sea Scrolls provide valuable insights into Second Temple Judaism and its textual landscape. However, they don't uniformly endorse or reject specific books but offer a broader understanding of the diversity of texts in circulation during that era.
See, proves my point except I was incorrect on date. It was earlier in the early 300’s than late 700’s. Thank you Late sir.
Just don't get on the Mother ship. Or any space ship for that matter. Regardless of what you are told to do
That gay guy in the Capital Building, will jump for joy at an opportunity to go on the mother ship. He wants probed desperately.
I'm into this UFO thing until the Government joined in. The political theater over Disclosure is nothing more than a distraction to something else more important.
How many generations have believed they were living the end times? How many of them were right? Why would this generation be any different?
Get right with the Lord, stay right with the Lord, and none of it matters.
No joke. Did you know that the NY's rabbi proclaimed that the messiah had arrived and he was one of his students. 😂
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You guys believe in predictive programming?
God in dragon ball Z is an alien.
The earliest thing that I can remember seriously getting into aliens have been on Earth was Chariots of the Gods by Daniken.
What did that early piece of work do? It made everyone question history. It made many question their religious beliefs. Maybe that later was exactly what it was meant to do.
There are Galaxy's 5 million light years across that are lifeless. Why??? because while the average temp of the Milky way is below freezing, the stars in these Galaxies are so densely packed together that all the radiation makes the avg temperature higher than the melting point of lead. that old canard about "so many stars is a waste, wink, wink" is misleading.
Dark Journalist has the best take on fake vs real Disclosure.
Swordy!
The only Messiah coming on a UFO is GEOTUS coming down from the clouds in power and glory.
On his first day back on terra firma, all enemies will be defeated.
What did you do with the body?
What city did this epic battle take place in?
I have family there! Wow! When was this? Would they have heard about it on the news?