There's THOUSANDS of conspirators in his case. Personally, I think, let Biden go. He's a worthless human who will die soon. I want the people who helped him. The people who covered it up. I want the people who planned this, profited from this, and gained power from this.
I want them all pushed into a hole and buried alive.
Do not let them turn Joe into "the problem." He's a figure head. He ran from his basement. He had ZERO power to do this with. It was all lent to him by the pedophile elite class. They need to DIE. Joe can watch. That will be his punishment.
I agree somewhat. Let him watch as everyone around him are sentenced. And after he understands how he was one of the weak links that broke a 1000 year old cabal enterprise, he can swing with them
Pedo Joe may have been the figure head orchestrated by the back curtain masters, so he should witness each execution and understand that his is last. For he knowingly (and willingly) participated in TREASON and as such be willing to pay the price for said actions.
I'm not a lawyer, and I haven't followed the details, but I think, in some way, Nancy Pelosi is responsible for Trump having the winning argument.
Constitutionally, the only remedy for a sitting President is impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate followed by removal from office. After that, presumably the President is subject to further litigation over that same issue.
Prior to 2021, one would think that the impeachment clause only covers sitting Presidents. But thanks to Nancy impeaching again a week or so before the end of his term, Trump was tried in the Senate after his term had expired.
That Congress didn't abandon the proceeding would indicate that they inferred that the impeachment clause still applied to the President even after being out of office. I think you can make the legal argument that Congress continuing the impeachment process after the term expired means that trial of a former President on any issue would be subject first to impeachment in the House and then conviction in the Senate - otherwise why continue after Trump left office?
Since he wasn't convicted in the Senate, then he can't be tried for actions while in office.
Are you referring to double jeopardy? Because, I have been thinking about that in regards to Trump being removed for a crime for which he has not had a due process conviction, but since the impeachment efforts failed, doesn't that exonerate him from J6? He hasn't been tried in a court of law, but I would think the concept of double jeopardy would apply. What do you think about that?
Not double jeopardy specifically. I'm saying he can't be tried for actions while in office without first being impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate for those same actions.
This does two things, besides benefiting Trump. It establishes that former Presidents can't be tried politically by the next administration unless Congress agrees. It also establishes that Presidential immunity, while not absolute, is essentially subordinate only to Congress and not the succeeding President's administration.
The impeachment process is a political process regarding the question of meeting the requirements of the office & trust. It would mean that there is a vetting process equal and surpassing the moral requirement for entering the continental US from abroad.
(Ever seen the requirements for a visum?)
It may be that there are things in a file that needs the attention of the criminal courts as these answer a totally different question.
He was impeached a 2nd time and at a time when he was believed to be out of office, but was he/is he really out of office? Impeachment is a remedy which may only be used for a sitting President - the consequeces of Senate conviction being simply removal from office.
I don't think there is immunity for treason, that is what all of them are going to be charged with.....
OR.....
Proof that Biden and Obama were not legitimate Presidents, therefore NO immunity!
Agreed. Obama was never a legitimate president (because he wasn’t a U.S. citizen and he probably cheated to win), and neither is Biden. Who knows how many other past presidents won through cheating. So then, were they ever legitimate presidents to begin with? I don’t know the legal answer but common sense says NO. IMHO
So, if they really want a chance they have to get a bill passed that removes Presidential Immunity. Doing so puts them on a death march where they cannot let anyone in office ever again who is not 100% fully controlled
I don't think even a President has immunity from sex trafficking, child trafficking, child sacrifice, crimes against humanity, organ harvesting, the drug trafficking etc. etc. etc. These are not policy decisions, military decisions and so on. Moral sin and crimes are a human condition - not just being a terrible leader.
I've contemplated that as well. A year or so ago when Jack Smith began his war against Trump, I remember, I think it was Brian Cates? who talked about how Smith was actually subpoenaing corrupt election officials in the swing states where the most obvious cheating took place. X22 talked about it briefly, and then I never heard anything more on that.
Just think. If all this stuff about the corporation are correct, anyone with an ounce of common sense and has memorized the Constitution FOR the United States could be a lawyer.
No Presidential immunity, I would think.
I'll get the rope.
Be sure to get a hemp rope - we’re gonna wanna use it more than once.
Only the finest Manilla Hemp.
Nah we need good ol' American hemp grown by southern Oregon farmers
Er... we are not barbarians. Let's go with a more civilized & sophisticated approach....
Let's make an appointment for a manila necktie fitting??? WWG1WGA
Why would you let Biden be the fall guy?
There's THOUSANDS of conspirators in his case. Personally, I think, let Biden go. He's a worthless human who will die soon. I want the people who helped him. The people who covered it up. I want the people who planned this, profited from this, and gained power from this.
I want them all pushed into a hole and buried alive.
Do not let them turn Joe into "the problem." He's a figure head. He ran from his basement. He had ZERO power to do this with. It was all lent to him by the pedophile elite class. They need to DIE. Joe can watch. That will be his punishment.
I see your point, but, no, Joe needs to hang for treason, as well as many others. He doesn't get a pass.
I figure every day spent alive with Jill is a punishment that can't be matched, even in Hell.
I agree somewhat. Let him watch as everyone around him are sentenced. And after he understands how he was one of the weak links that broke a 1000 year old cabal enterprise, he can swing with them
Pedo Joe may have been the figure head orchestrated by the back curtain masters, so he should witness each execution and understand that his is last. For he knowingly (and willingly) participated in TREASON and as such be willing to pay the price for said actions.
That is spelled obama/soros/clinton.
He's not Joe Biden. He's an actor in a mask.
Who needs immunity when the DOJ won't even prosecute?
I'm not a lawyer, and I haven't followed the details, but I think, in some way, Nancy Pelosi is responsible for Trump having the winning argument.
Constitutionally, the only remedy for a sitting President is impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate followed by removal from office. After that, presumably the President is subject to further litigation over that same issue.
Prior to 2021, one would think that the impeachment clause only covers sitting Presidents. But thanks to Nancy impeaching again a week or so before the end of his term, Trump was tried in the Senate after his term had expired.
That Congress didn't abandon the proceeding would indicate that they inferred that the impeachment clause still applied to the President even after being out of office. I think you can make the legal argument that Congress continuing the impeachment process after the term expired means that trial of a former President on any issue would be subject first to impeachment in the House and then conviction in the Senate - otherwise why continue after Trump left office?
Since he wasn't convicted in the Senate, then he can't be tried for actions while in office.
Are you referring to double jeopardy? Because, I have been thinking about that in regards to Trump being removed for a crime for which he has not had a due process conviction, but since the impeachment efforts failed, doesn't that exonerate him from J6? He hasn't been tried in a court of law, but I would think the concept of double jeopardy would apply. What do you think about that?
Not double jeopardy specifically. I'm saying he can't be tried for actions while in office without first being impeached in the House and convicted in the Senate for those same actions.
This does two things, besides benefiting Trump. It establishes that former Presidents can't be tried politically by the next administration unless Congress agrees. It also establishes that Presidential immunity, while not absolute, is essentially subordinate only to Congress and not the succeeding President's administration.
I could see how there is no double jeopardy.
The impeachment process is a political process regarding the question of meeting the requirements of the office & trust. It would mean that there is a vetting process equal and surpassing the moral requirement for entering the continental US from abroad. (Ever seen the requirements for a visum?)
It may be that there are things in a file that needs the attention of the criminal courts as these answer a totally different question.
Disagree.
Yes, it’s a political (Constitutional) process, but based on high crimes and misdemeanors. (Key word being “crimes”).
That actually makes sense to me!
He was impeached a 2nd time and at a time when he was believed to be out of office, but was he/is he really out of office? Impeachment is a remedy which may only be used for a sitting President - the consequeces of Senate conviction being simply removal from office.
Second impeachment, if convicted in Senate trial, would have barred Trump from holding federal office - THAT was reason they played that hoax out.
Cant wait to read the reddit threads and downvote the shit outta them.! The meltdowns are gonna be glorious!!!!
I don't think there is immunity for treason, that is what all of them are going to be charged with..... OR..... Proof that Biden and Obama were not legitimate Presidents, therefore NO immunity!
Agreed. Obama was never a legitimate president (because he wasn’t a U.S. citizen and he probably cheated to win), and neither is Biden. Who knows how many other past presidents won through cheating. So then, were they ever legitimate presidents to begin with? I don’t know the legal answer but common sense says NO. IMHO
Fraud vitiates everything.
https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/fraud-vitiates-everything-can-be-applied-to-a-judg-3527006.html
So, if they really want a chance they have to get a bill passed that removes Presidential Immunity. Doing so puts them on a death march where they cannot let anyone in office ever again who is not 100% fully controlled
The Biden isn't actually the president, so he has no presidential immunity.
Yep, fact lost on so many....
Maybe DOJ will appeal to SCOTUS...
Obama isn't some mastermind behind everything. He's simply a smooth talking idiot that does what the cabal says.
You're being too kind, methinks.
For sure
So the immunity from civil prosecution is in tact. Does that apply to treason and military tribunal?
Trump has no threat from that corner but I would think deepstate sure does.
So Obama is protected..as is Bush, and Clinton and (insert name here) while they literally killed Americans as president. Hmm
No because if they aren’t legitimate presidents then they are just commoners like everyone else and they will be treated like the criminals they are.
I don't think even a President has immunity from sex trafficking, child trafficking, child sacrifice, crimes against humanity, organ harvesting, the drug trafficking etc. etc. etc. These are not policy decisions, military decisions and so on. Moral sin and crimes are a human condition - not just being a terrible leader.
Hmmm. I have been here too long. What if the "the prosecutor, whose name we were told to find" is on our side?
I've contemplated that as well. A year or so ago when Jack Smith began his war against Trump, I remember, I think it was Brian Cates? who talked about how Smith was actually subpoenaing corrupt election officials in the swing states where the most obvious cheating took place. X22 talked about it briefly, and then I never heard anything more on that.
The last chapter of this book is going to be a doozy.
So Obama won't have to claim Kenyan citizenship now that we know this...
Don’t be surprised if this doesn’t go trumps way… setting precedent is ugly
Joe wasn’t President for the billion dollar bribe!
Just think. If all this stuff about the corporation are correct, anyone with an ounce of common sense and has memorized the Constitution FOR the United States could be a lawyer.
DDS
So would this mean Jack has to drop his case against Trump?
Damn, those liberal obama judges caved huh…. Interesting….
Two were appointed by Biden and one by HW Bush.
And no they haven't "caved" yet.
Trump was stating what he thought the answer is, not their answer. A lot of people seem to have misunderstood.
It hasn’t been decided yet. Maybe he knows something we don’t.
This feels way more like a big L for the country.
Getting s/elected shouldn’t put you above the law.
Right? So is Trump trying to set a precedent that Biden has immunity for anything he does in the next 12 months?
Nope because hidenbiden is not president.
I think Trump's own TS post at the top of this page clearly says otherwise.
Great, so once that’s proven publicly, after he’s been dead for years, he can be tried for his crimes. 🙄
But even if I that is true, being president shouldn’t give you legal immunity. It should make you even more susceptible to legal scrutiny if anything.
Legal immunity only appeals to criminals.