US government will ban Americans from air travel effective May 2025 unless they have federalized 'Real ID' driver's license
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US government will ban Americans from air travel effective May 2025 unless they have federalized 'Real ID' driver's license
The long-awaited deadline is finally approaching on May 7 and it will disqualify many from boarding commercial airplanes, whether domestic or international flights.
Independent journalist Patrick Webb reports that the US government plans to launch its heavily criticized federal ID program, called Real ID, for domestic air travel on May 7, 2025.
https://leohohmann.substack.com/p/us-government-will-ban-americans?
Use Real ID to vote. Feds will cancel program immediately
Ohhh man. You got it! Crooks
Is that the one they give to illegals?
No that’s what’s fucked up. You will eventually need it to fly without passport but to get it you have to have more ID like a passport so it essentially tightens control on those who are compliant. Illegals don’t comply and clear TSA via another program now. It’s another level of two tiered laws and enforcement.
But, you have to have it to enter federal facilities.
They have to, then they get vaccinated like everybody else. Me I don’t want even to travel national so I am not worry about the “Real ID” CRAP, hoping WHO and US government get sued for doing that.
Only applies to American Citizens. Illegals get to skip the TSA line.
Right? We live in fkn clownworld.
lol I don’t think so
I believe a passport works too.
Just coming here to say ^this^.
Same here. I'll just add, the passports have the same RFID tracking and more embedded within.
I’ve heard an appropriate number of seconds in a microwave can disable the RFID chips…haven’t researched recently…
I would love to see this. Granted I recall seeking kids destroy their iPhone 6 (IIRC) trying to drill an headphone hole into their phone. Just wondering if those chips would catch fire & burn up in those microwaves?
There is an EU standard for passport chips based on X.509 and I suspect it is a world standard. The front cover of the passport has a symbol to ahow compatibility. You can get Android apps to read the chip and see the certificate data.
Microwave does indeed destroy the chip but not a great benefit because they can still visually read the printed data. Also you cannot use the automatic entry gates and instead have to line up for a real border force person.
I have a RFID blocking passport & credit card holder like this
Passports have printed chevron symbols like this >>>>>>>>> and that area has to be scannned first to get the password to read the chip. So no possibily of anyone sneaking up next to you and grabbing your chip data so no need for RF shielding.
Ha ha. Made in China! Is it trustworthy?
and it doesn't have a street address on it.
Exactly.
Yes, but both cost more than a driver’s license and regular ID!
true, but the title is misleading, people are not banned without a Real ID. That being said I bet this blows up again, too many people won't have any clue about this and will go to board a plane with a normal ID.
I guess they will find out quickly. But this too will pass with DJT in office.
I've been watching this for years. They have postponed it at least 3 times so far. I don't think this is gonna fly with the American people. We've lost our patience. Thus far, even though I keep getting reminders, I have NOT gotten the Real ID.
some of us are fed up, others won't even get the memo, the airport will be of people trying to board with a regular ID.
My license expired during the plandemic. My choices were update online for free but says NOT VALID FOR REAL ID PURPOSES or go to the DMV with an appt, plus you had to wear mask and bring proof of jabberfication to get the REAL ID.
Yeah, mail me the one I can still buy booze with and I'll just keep using my passport for air travel.
I just renewed my DL a few days ago, WITHOUT the real ID option. I quit flying when TSA became such a mess, and they started singling out Grandma for enhanced scrutinization while letting Achmed on through so as not to hurt his feelings. Up until 2020, my conditions for flying again were the privatization of TSA and they would have to start profiling (it works!), but then the world turned upside down. Now, between all the pilots being required to take mRNA vaccines, and the new diversity hire pilots, I'll never trust the airlines and the FAA again.
Driving is a much better option anyways - there's more to see and do, especially if you get the hell off the interstate highways.
@Strelnieks Are you being sarcastic about jabberfication? Well played then! You had me going to NCDOT and there is no jabberfication requirement. KEK
Happened to me too. I do not need a "gold star" on my license. I do not trust anything our government big and small try to push on us.
Fine. No air travel for me. I'll drive instead.
I used to have to go to the West Coast a couple of times a year on business. Haven't been on a plane since I retired, and don't miss it one goddam bit.
What, those planes will fly with one engine. ;-)
Kek!
These days I'd trust Mr Magoo flying the Spruce Goose over United!
This could be an additional way the WH are filtering out illegals under the guise of this.
How is the Real ID different from the current driver's license? That substack article doesn't explain it.
Extra verification to prove residency or being legal in the USA.
I've got a social security number for crying out loud.
Have you applied for that card. They ask for almost 5-6 documents just to prove you’re legal.
Good crimany sakes, I've been here since 1965. I'm about as American as American gets.
From my understanding they're using it to raise costs a bit. In AZ you need a new license at 65. If you get a real ID it's every 4 years.. it comes with a cute star on it! I don't have one so I'm unsure about the RFID
AZ person here. When you are young in AZ, your license is good for 20+ years without having to be updated. (Or it was). I am now a senior, so it must be updated often. Mine came up to renew during the PLANdemic so I did it online. I did NOT want a gold star on my license. I will not get a gold star on my license when I have to renew again.
Domestic flights only if you don't have a passport is what I'm reading here. Even now if you travel domestic, Canada, mexico, you need real ID if you don't have or want to carry passport.
P.S Everyone should have a passport. It's a beautiful book, pages filled with nice pictures of historical sites and the 1st page is a picture of the guy who wrote the national anthem (Francis Scott Key) the Maryland bridge that just collapse is named after (how ironic?!) 2nd page has the We The People preambled to the constitution. 4th page has the liberty bell and the 1st capitol in Philly. It's abeautiful passport book.
Quoting from the article:
"Today, I bring to your attention another government policy that’s about to take effect that will crush domestic air travel under the guise of national security.
Webb stated in a series of posts to X Sunday that this will ban all adults from domestic flights unless they have replaced traditional state-issued IDs with Real IDs, raising significant concerns about privacy and state surveillance.
But here’s the rub: Fewer than half of Americans possess a passport, according to the U.S. Department of State.
Without a passport, adults will be left with Real ID or so-called Enhanced ID as their only options. However, as noted by Webb, the Enhanced IDs will only be valid for land or sea travel to Mexico and Canada, not for domestic flights. Not to mention, Enhanced IDs are only issued by five states — Washington, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, and Vermont."
You can also pay a little extra and get a passport card, which is good for land and sea crossings. It is the same size as a driver's license, but still has no address listed.
On that topic of paying extra. If folks don't know, TSA Pre Check is worth it for domestic travel. Used to cost about $75 and you had to have a simple interview screening.
BUT! It doesn't work at all internationally nor when reentering the US. Most ppl assume it works stateside for roundtrip international travel, but nope!
Worth noting that the passport card only works around North America and certain Caribbean ports. Not for traveling to other continents. I know someone who found that out the hard way.
I’m pretty sure calirado is non this list also.
They will move the goal post…you watch
Agreed. I remember the same conversation in the late nineties when they started rolling out real id, and here we are…once they do this for any domestic travel it’s a much shorter road to doing it for anything else.
I don't fly any more because airports piss me off so much. I'm lucky I have no need to fly.
I used to love traveling by and flying. But since TSA Gestapo has been anti constitutionally groping us I resist. Will drive 22 hours before taking a 8 hr plane trip.
It’s been argued up to the Supreme Court that you don’t even need an ID to fly.
With planes falling apart mid flight do you still really want to fly? Keep your real ID I'm good.
Can you even opt-out of Real ID? When I renewed my DL, all new DLs were Real IDs. Mine is.
I just renewed mine a few days ago, without getting a Real ID. I'm in NC.
https://dmv.ny.gov/get-enhanced-or-real-id
I'm old enough to remember when Real ID was considered a good thing in the patriot community because it verified the legal status of people, and people who were NOT legal in America could not get Real ID. I hate government over-reach, but I'm not sure that Real ID is bad thing. I guess I need to do more research on it now.
Just another form of control AND income revenue. How about illegals who want to return to their homelands to visit relatives? Can they just say, “i entered illegally, so i will return illegally?”
I think I will be OK, I don't want tl go anywhere! Bunker is set!
This is absolute and utter BULLSHIT.
Ban? Used to stick my armpits together...
Get a passport and fork real id
States keep putting it off because people flat out refuse to get one. My state when I renewed my driver's license said, "oh, do you want a real ID license?" I said hell no! She said, "you and everyone else!". So this real ID bullshit is not going to fly. I'm betting Trump scraps that BS quickly.