I came across some interesting court cases recently.
1787 -- The Constitution for the United States of America is written.
1819 -- Just 32 years later, while James Madision, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson were all still alive, the Massachusetts Supreme Court said there were only citizens of the states:
The term, “citizens of the United States,” must be understood to intend those who were citizens of a state, as such, after the Union had commenced, and the several states had assumed their sovereignties. Before this period there were no citizens of the United States. Manchester v. Boston, Massachusetts Reports, Vol. 16, Page 235 (1819)
1821 -- Two years later, a federal court said a citizen of one state is a citizen of the other states, as well:
“A citizen of one state is to be considered as a citizen of every other state in the union.” Butler v. Farnsworth, Federal Cases, Vol. 4, Page 902 (1821)
1855 -- No such thing as “citizen of the United States”
“A citizen of any one of the States of the Union, is held to be, and called a citizen of the United States, although technically and abstractly there is no such thing. To conceive a citizen of the United States who is not a citizen of some one of the States, is totally foreign to the idea, and inconsistent with the proper construction and common understanding of the expression as used in the Constitution, which must be deduced from its various other provisions.” Ex parte Frank Knowles, California Reports, Vol. 5, Page 302 (1855)
1868 -- 14th Amendment adopted. In the main body of the US Constitution, anyplace where “Citizen” was written, the word was capitalized. Starting with the 14th Amendment, and all amendments thereafter, the word “citizen” was lower-case. Interesting.
1873 -- Just 5 years after the adoption of the 14th Amendment, federal courts said this:
The term resident and citizen of the United States is distinguished from a Citizen of one of the several states, in that the former is a special class of citizen created by Congress. U.S. v. Anthony 24 Fed. 829 (1873)
1875 -- 2 years after that, we have the US Supreme Court stating:
We have in our political system a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of its own. United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)
1883 -- 8 years later, the Indiana Supreme Court said:
One may be a citizen of a State and yet not a citizen of the United States. McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)
1906 -- US Supreme Court (this case has never been overturned, and has been cited by other courts over 1,600 times, making it one of the most authoritative court cases in American law):
The individual may stand upon his Constitutional Rights as a Citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no duty to the State, since he receives nothing there from, beyond the protection of his life and property. His rights are such as existed by the Law of the Land (Common Law) long antecedent to the organization of the State, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights. Hale v. Henkel 201 U.S. 43 at 89 (1906)
1908 -- Florida Supreme Court, citing previous US Supreme Court rulings:
It is the duty of all officials whether legislative, judicial, executive, administrative, or ministerial to so perform every official act so as not to violate constitutional provisions. a. Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them. S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane’s Administrators 3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54; and, b. the contracts between them involve U.S. citizens, which are deemed as Corporate Entities: c. Therefore, the U.S. citizens residing in one of the states of the union, are classified as property and franchises of the federal government as an individual entity, Wheeling Steel Corp. v. Fox, 298 U.S. 193, 80 L.Ed. 1143, 56 S.Ct. 773 Montgomery v State 55 Fla. 97
1927 -- California Supreme Court:
there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state,” Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)
1953 -- Federal Court:
A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383 (1953)
1958 -- US Supreme Court:
The constitutional theory is that we the people are the sovereigns, the state and federal officials only our agents. Cooper v. Aaron, 358 U.S. 1 (1958)
1968 -- District Court in Puerto Rico, citing US Supreme Court (natural, fundamental rights do not belong to US citizens):
Defendants’ error lies in assuming that the right to vote is an essential right of citizenship. The only absolute and unqualified right of citizenship is to residence within the territorial boundaries of the United States. US vs. Valentine 288 F. Supp. 957 [see: Balzac v. People of Puerto Rico, 258 US 298]
1993 - District Court case:
The privileges and immunities clause of the 14th Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates the Bill of Rights, nor protects all rights of individual citizens. Instead this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship. Jones v. Temmer, 89 F. Supp 1226
How to make sense of it all?
1776:
When the Declaration of Independence was signed, the 13 British colonies in America became free and independent States, on equal footing with all other countries of the world.
The People in each of these 13 States/countries wrote their own constitution, identifying the powers of their State governments, and limiting the authority of their government, while also prohibiting their government from violating the fundamental rights of the People in the State.
1787:
The People, via their representatives in Congress, assembled, wrote a new constitution to create a 14th government (“federal government”) to grant certain powers to it for a more efficient overall government experience. This federal government was granted certain powers that would apply within the States, such as regulating foreign commerce, but only the powers enumerated. In addition, this document had a clause giving the federal government exclusive jurisdiction over the federal territories (powers beyond what was enumerated). So, the enumerated powers apply to the States, but all other powers ONLY apply to the federal territories and enclaves (military bases).
1819:
The courts were already recognizing that there could be a confusion with the term “citizen of the United States.” They were clarifying that this term meant a “citizen of a particular State, and by means of that, also a citizen of THESE States, united.” But, there was NO SUCH THING as a “citizen of the United States, as in the federal government.”
1868:
The 14th Amendment had a tricky clause, which created (or became construed as creating) a new class of citizenship, which was federal and NOT state.
Early 20th Century:
The courts were still recognizing that We the People, as individuals, have natural rights that the government (state or federal) cannot violate. But there was also a movement hidden in the shadows trying to pervert this idea. This was the time of the income tax and Federal Reserve creation (unconstitutional, btw).
Mid-20th Century:
The courts were recognizing these two competing ideas. There were those who were trying to trick everyone into thinking they were “US citizens” and at the same time not revealing that to be one of these, one would give up their natural rights. At the same time, some courts were reasserting the original concept, so as to remind Americans who they are (members of the sovereign class, and not subjects of the government, ruled over by a higher class -- which does not exist, in reality).
Current times:
Only people who have familiarized themselves with the REAL LAW of the United States of America (meaning, all the case law about this subject) understand that they are not citizens of an inferior class. However, the propaganda has been so strong, that these people are looked at by everyone else (myself included, until recently) … as crazy.
But really, who is crazy? Those who understand they are of the class of people who created the government, or those who believe they are inferior subjects who must do anything a government employee demands of them?
Food for thought.
Most interesting. Thanks for the deep dive. For the most part, I live a sovereign life. I pay little attention to most codes and laws unless forced. This does not make me a bad person nor a criminal. I live by a higher set of values... let me share some.
"I am free to do whatever I want as long as I cause no harm to any other human being or the planet."
"The wise man, although all laws were abolished, would lead the same life"
When is it okay to lie? (My Litmus test) It is okay only: If the person you lie to ever discovers you lied to them, they will thank you for it!
Nothing matters! Because regardless of what you do or are, your soul still survives. This is an absolute. Fearing death makes no sense. Yet, everything matters, we live in a world of dichotomy where everything stands in contrast. You can't describe up without down, left without right, hot without cold. So everything you say, think or do matters because it registers within this sphere of dichotomy and defines you.
...I should write another book about it. :)
I just love the way you put the part about lying... thats my way of thinking too, allthough I never put it in words like this. And I know its very hard to try to be that way in our "modern" world. Thank YOU!
Glad it resonated. The fact is, being in such a homeostasis is quite easy. Simple. I wrote a book on how the human body handles and reacts to your chosen demeanor. Get an Ebook and enjoy. (free) At checkout just enter the promocode: WWG1WGA. :) Unselfishly, I think everyone should have this knowledge. It's just science made easy.
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To be American, live your life the way you want. Fuck anyone who tries to stop you. Do not comply with tyranny. They say stop eating meat you eat a 20oz ribeye a day. They say dont eat eggs eat a dozen a week. They say mask, you grow a beard that Gandalf would be proud of and say fuck you! They say get a shot, tell them to fuck off or youll shoot them. Stand your ground. Be a red blooded American.
So fuckin based kek
What a wildly excellent post. These are the matters all Americans need to become most familiar with. Knowing and understanding this is something that would infuriate liberty loving Americans all over.
We have gone wildly astray from the founders intentions years ago. We went from having a government set up to protect the Peoples rights to one that governs their every move through "laws". When the people hire an attorney to represent them, what did they expect to happen?
Very interesting. So the only people who have no option but to be citizens (with a small 'c') are those people born in American territories and never having taken up residency in an actual State of the USA.
Another question revolves around children of Citizens (with a capital 'C') whose parents gave birth while traveling overseas. Presumably those children would inherit the state Citizenship of their parents, although I don't see any legal clarification on that. Would be an interesting question.
In any case, if you ever wish to leave the borders of the USA, you must accept citizenship (with a small 'c') as that is the only way to get travel documents that other countries will accept.
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I'm loving the 1908 Florida Supreme Court quote.
This is a great contribution to a very important subject. I hope it opens more eyes.
Nice work... updooted
Many have no clue about status, how they're lost at sea and a "citizen" of DC...or the UCC, maritime law and a whole host of subterfuge, legalese and trickery - as soon as the "dock" delivered the "birth" etc.
No. I am a living, breathing man/woman...
We've been tricked six ways from Sunday for hundreds upon hundreds of years...
Exactly! "War Castles" is something that I had no clue of until pedes here led me to that rabbit hole.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv0QG63ORkA&ab_channel=BodyByStephHealth%26FitnessCoach
14th Amendment citizen is a citizen of the United States Inc. which is based in D.C and the territories like Puerto Rico. Those citizens are the ones who have to pay income tax and those who work for the federal government. State Citizens are under no such obligation. The deep state has been hard at work for a very long time in this country.
The US Republic should be decentralized to the point that we are primarily Citizens of States first but generally speaking are citizens of the United States.
But in modern times the Federal system is a top down system where we are US citizens first and State Citizens second.
The tug-of-war between State rights has been an ongoing conversation in the US for a long time.
This is why President Trump emphasizes the importance of returning many issues to the States as advised by legal scholars (eg abortion topic).
I agree but you also can declare your political status. You do not have to let them do it for you. There are many ways they capture us into contract with them but if people learn the ways they can do it and maintain state citizenship and not be run over by the US Corp.
On tax forms claim to be an american national, or a citizen of the state you reside in. Stop claiming US Citizenship is the first thing. Then submit into the public record your status. You can file with the clerk of court, you can post in newspapers I think three times or something. But then they do sneaky stuff with micro-printing. When you get a chance, get a magnifying glass and look at the line when you sign your checks. Look at what it says, it isn't just a line.
I rubber stamp all my checks with "Without prejudice UCC 1-308" directly under that line as it allows me to retain all my rights.
Here are a couple of links to info I found with a quick search about this, and I did not know the signature line was not just a line! But why to you stamp with "Without prejudice UCC 1-308"? I don't understand that part.
https://brokensecrets.com/2011/05/04/the-signature-line-on-checks-is-not-a-line-at-all/
https://legal-explanations.com/blog/what-is-ucc-1-308/
That is part of the UCC, Uniform comercial Code. If you read UCC 1-308 you will see it is instructed that this is how to reserve your rights under the UCC and Maritime law. So that signature line, even though I sign it, I do not agree to waive any rights. Court cases have been won because of this simple trick.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/1-308
The official kick off was this special year , what else happened in 1913 ?
**The Seventeenth Amendment (Amendment XVII) to the United States Constitution established the direct election of United States senators in each state. The amendment supersedes Article I, Section 3, Clauses 1 and 2 of the Constitution, under which senators were elected by state legislatures.... The amendment was proposed by the 62nd Congress in 1912 and became part of the Constitution on April 8, 1913,"
Do not overlook the 16th Amendment (Oct? 1913) which established the IRS as goons for the Federal Reserve Act which went into effect in December of 1913. All of this went down 20 months after the Titanic was lost, which carried 3 powerful opponents to a centralized banking system that was being pushed on the U.S.. Jeckyl Island, GA. was the workshop of the intellectuals who systematically penned the written guidelines and legal paperwork to push the 16th Amendment , which never fully achieved the 2/3 majority state approval to be legally inducted into the Constitution. Yes there was much fuckery going on ro quietly eradicate the Constitution over time. 1913 was a milestone point for the slow takedown of our country.
Almost exactly.
Olympic -- But I guess A White Star , for the illuminated , by any other name would serve the same purpose on April 15, 1912.
Tragically true. Needless waste of life...
Said everyone who survived a war. And the WAR continues
State Citizens are often dragged into obligations by the trick of encouraging others to swear to formal testimony that the Citizens earned income, which is a rebuttable presumption.
Income that can be the subject of federal taxation must partake of some federal nexus, for OP reasons. Testimony declaring income is one of the easiest alleged nexuses to mass-produce.
So, so much to compliment here. Thank you for this. It has been made fun of for a few years but the term sovereign citizen was meant to be a citizen of the state they live in not a citizen of the United States, under the 14th.
Could you make this a downloadable PDF? This is outstanding. Thank you.
just save the page as pdf
Great read
Good overview!
When looking at the process, I think it is helpful to consider the 1933 default and the consequent process of corporatization of everything. Under the default rules, the administrative state becomes more powerful, and the process of fucking around with the birth certificate, turning a recent born into a collateral in a bankruptcy proceeding.
Look up Alphonse Figgiolo on telegram if you want to meet like minded people that actually litigate this in court. Chevron is a game changer for us.
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This was an outstanding post! "The Constitution for the United States of America"
It is amazing how many times this is written incorrectly as The..... "of" the United....
Well done!!! Lots of good info for anyone who has a desire to understand perhaps the most important set of words to mankind that has yet to be perverted over time. Granted it's still young when compared to the Bible and even the Magna Carta, but it grows stronger with time as people realize what those words mean!
Not incorrect. There are 2 Constitutions. For and of. The 'of' Constitution is the second one used by the US Corporation. The 'for' Constitution is the original for the Republic.
That's exactly why I always reference "for" whenever I discuss it. I'm a devoted retired Navy guy who holds his Oath to uphold and defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic as an absolute promise to the citizens of our country. We who take the oath are defending the original one, not the phony Corporation one. I/we also understand that an oath is binding and one is not relieved of it until their last breath has been drawn, so help us God.
God speed soldier, thank you for your service.
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I’ve got a new Amendment “I’ve got my gun cock and time for you mother fuckers to get off my land”
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Good job. These United States. Not The united States.
Excellent writing. But you should also consider doing a podcast of this topic. If you don't know how, basically you just hit record on your audio recorder on your phone and talk. I'd love to hear more.
I thing that you have to understand is the British never let go of the United States and they own our asses
The British monarchy are all German.
Some good information. Great research. Thank you.
It would be interesting to know the specifics of the cases. Accepted precedents are established one small deviation at a time. I once did a dive into the busing issue. Gave me a clear understanding of how Brown v Board of Education evolved into the Swann decision. Activist courts did this.
Awesome post…very educational…so, if a state may recognize, if they so choose, anyone living within their territories as a citizen of their state (think “illegal migrants), does that allow them to legally vote in federal elections?
Being Irish, our country basically photocopied the UK law book, thus creating the perfect civil service “state” for the leaders of the independence war to rule over us.
Part of the “civil war” that followed was actually a power struggle between two political factions.
Our country is a mess for private citizens but an unaccountable utopia for civil servants.
Their laws, tax rules, licensing and regulations are designed to rob us “legally” so they can enrich themselves. All enforced by their civil service courts, the civil service goon squad (An Gardai / police), then the civil service jails.
This is what happens when a government has a monopoly on violence. The simple threat of violence is enough to pay your taxes.
And when you pay your taxes, you are then obliged to pay further taxes on anything you purchase / consume.
They actually awarded themselves a 10% pay rise last year. They are importing thousands of welfare parasite migrants who they know will vote to keep the Ponzi scheme going.
Until that is, there is nothing left to steal. That’s when the fun will begin.
It’s beyond a clown show.
That’s a great post. Sending to my normie friends to read
Well laid out, thanks.
Interesting. I wonder what this could be used to achieve, legally.
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Very well researched. Thank you.
Your explanations are well written enough to open some minds
If SovCits are who Anons are, I need to walk away.
No, not SovCits, we're citizens who are sovereigns. We deign to permit our public servants to continue serving at our pleasure, as we instruct them and also structure our lives sovereignly to minimize detriments of their incompetence.
You reject the notion that you are subject to law while demanding your rights under law are protected. The flat earthers of civics.
You're thinking of SovCits.
Romans 13 says to be subject to the governing authorities generally, while Acts 4 and 5 say the exception is conscience. We follow all laws with this one exception; I said nothing about breaking any law. However, the boundary when a sovereign decides to engage peaceful civil disobedience is decided by each sovereign.
Acts 4 and 5 is some powerful stuff.
Still, considering the posts I am seeing here lately on many subjects, I see it is time for me to walk away.
"SovCit" is another psyop meant to lead people down the wrong path and fuck themselves over legally by getting labeled a terrorist.
Understanding what true "Citizenship" means in relation to sovereign States vs the "United States" is just basic civics.
Using a ready made label with built in bias is a good sign you've been brainwashed.
It happens to us all, otherwise we wouldn't be in this mess, just be aware of this element and it will help you find your blindspots.
When fools consider themselves above the law the label is appropriate.
When the time comes that elections are illegitimate and the law is beyond tolerance, in other words when actual tyranny is ruling, take up arms. Don't go to traffic court claiming the law does not apply to you because you are reciting magic incantations about commercial law.
What would you call it when all "the law" does not apply to the sovereign? In these United States the sovereign is the people (State citizens) not the federal (US citizen) For example, I do not think anyone said you cannot pay income tax if you want to, go ahead. Just that "the law" used to require it does not apply to a State citizen. Another discussion can be that the only real Law is God's law not mankind's.