Personally, I'd like to see the dollar replaced with a new, government/gold-backed dollar, not the occultic, print 'em up stuff from the increasingly desperate Illuminati Puppet Masters.
Go take a look at JFK's "silver certificates" from ~1963. The US dollar design was coming in 1964 similar to those, except with "ONE US DOLLAR" at the top instead of "SILVER CERTIFICATE" or "FEDERAL RESERVE DEBT NOTE". JFK was attempting to create competition in order to implode the Federal Reserve. They killed him for it. Globalist shitbags hate competition of any kind.
This amended the Truman EO 10289 from 17SEP1951 and delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the President's authority to issue Silver Certificates. Apparently under Eisenhower the Banker-controlled Congress and Judiciary handcuffed Eisenhower somehow and stopped him from issuing the certificates using Truman's EO. He tried.
Interesting. If Trump created this system where the US silver or gold certificate was used in every day transactions, how would that work for those holding the actual metal. Would there be 2 prices like $30 for 1 oz of silver versus say for simple comparison, 100 silver certificate note for 1 oz of silver.
Would you then see 2 prices at the store where 1 favors the trade into silver/ gold certificates for your groceries versus the US dollar?
I know, I'm only using numbers for simplicity. I am more questioning how the process would go if BRICS says to Trump "go pound sand we aren't using the dollar, make something else and then we talk" obviously opening the door to create a secondary currency backed by gold and silver.
Pennies used to be all copper, until they inflated the crap out of the currency to the point where melting them down to turn in for higher scrap value was pulling them from circulation. Currently they're mainly zinc with copper cladding.
From the last link: "What's more, it costs more than a cent to make a penny. In 2011, it cost 2.4 cents to manufacture a penny, but production costs fell to 1.7 cents in 2014, according to a report by the United States Mint. The nickel also costs more than its face value to make (about 8 cents), according to the report. But other coins make money for the mint, including the dime (just 3.9 cents) and the quarter (9 cents), the report said. Overall, in 2014 the mint made $289.1 million on seigniorage (the difference it takes to make a coin versus the coin's worth), even though pennies and nickels cost it $90.5 million to make, according to the Wall Street Journal."
Unknown exactly. Presumption is some banks would be “Depositories” holding actual gold/silver as “silver certificates” are redeemable for physical, presumably Constitutional money Silver Eagles. Some evidence that US mint created massive numbers of Silver Eagles for some purpose starting around 2015 and may have millions stockpiled. Note that most recent ones have a space on them for a “unique identifier” implying potential blockchain ledger tracking of EACH silver/gold Eagle coin. [unique identifier can be etched in or embedded at this location].
Hopefully this sets a precedent for Trump to back USD with Gold and Silver and the brics was a smoke screen for other countries to get a head start on the Gold rush
Probably correct. Globalist plan was to jam the Yuan up everyone's ass and force everyone to be feudal serfs of Chinese Communist Party, the designated "next global currency" by the bankers as far back as 1971. Euro may have been the backup, but clearly the EU is destroying itself and its economy to intentionally allow an easy takeover by China.
Pushback on BRICS provides cover for Xi to keep undermining the globalists and CCP faction and go with a gold-backed sovereign that would not threaten the dollar directly, but would certainly demolish the World Bank. "Dollar colonialism" ending and revitalized US manufacturing, with a peg to precious metals (Constitutional requirement) saves the US Dollar. Federal Reserve Debt Note gets swapped out for actual US Dollar which is currently not really in use.
For years, I was told here that the BRICS group was a good thing, working against the globalists.
Now Trump is attacking the group and anyone who would align themselves with them?
Was BRICS a backup plan in case Trump's original plan failed, and now that Trump's plan DID succeed and he's back in the White House, there's no more need for BRICS and this is his way of getting it to dissolve?
Swift response, everything according to plan? Bonus points to trump, zero losses to BRICS:
BRICS is not discussing the creation of a common currency, it is about new investment platforms — Kremlin
IIRC, BRICS is the counter move to G7, to give more economic voices to countries that G7 looks down on for reasons.
Now Russia does have a vested interest in creating a new currency, mostly because the Banking Syndicates fucked em over at the start of the Ukraine war.
China is on board with making a new currency because their economy is in tatters and could benefit from something other then the Washington Dollar.
I don't think Trump is saber rattling. I think he's sending comms to these nations, but that's my opinion
Isn't the United States about 4% of the world's population? Are you saying only Americans use the US Dollar right now? Not sure about that.
US GDP is about 25% of the world's total GDP.
China will want to have BRICS take over the US Dollar, and then they will bankrupt all of the other BRICS members with their hostile loans, and convert everyone to the Yuan.
But if the other countries in BRICS want to test Trump, they are welcome to FAFO.
Few use "the US Dollar" right now. Trump is likely being very precise in his language for a reason. Currently in use is "the Federal Reserve Debt Note". They made it look EXACTLY like "the US Dollar" circa 1913 to fool everyone.
When Trump says the US Dollar I believe he means what the world considers the US Dollar and that's the Federal Reserve Note US Dollar. Whether it is a Federal Reserve Dollar or a US Dollar isn't his point. His point is he doesn't want the rest of the world to replace the US Federal Reserve Dollar with a BRICS replacement or other replacement. There is power in having the world trade using US Dollars. You can go to almost any country and use a US Dollar if you don't have local currency and it will be accepted.
The large play here is the C in briCs, That's for Chyna! And I think we all know the CCP want to control the world. With their predatory loans to 3rd world countries to control ports and access, they have made great progress. They already control ports on both ends of the Panama Canal. They own the port of Long Beach and other US Ports.
Anyways, I have this link for some sauce but can't find anything more current. This is from 2022.
Agreed. Note there are two Chinese factions. One is globalist (British intel proxy) CCP attempting to make Yuan “new world currency” to replace US debt/petrodollar fiat. Other is Chinese nationalist led by Xi attempting to pivot to a gold-backed yuan or variation that collapses globalist colonialism and restores Chinese sovereignty.
Structure of Chinese provinces has been tweaked to be more “Federal” like Russia with “sovereign states”. Reasonable probability that Taiwan, Tibet, and Mongolia all officially become part of Chinese Federation as sovereign states similar to US Republic.
It's going to be very interesting to see how things unfold with China.
China takes a grinding decades-long approach, and the US takes a 2 to 4-year ADHD approach.
Trump has a short window to do some pretty major things. If we don't accomplish confronting China while Trump is in charge, I can see China overtaking the US in the global economy and influence over the longterm.
Some deals with Xi and Putin were likely “pre-positioned” 2017-2021. More evidence that Trump expected to skip 2021-2025, and return 2025-2029 when those publicly materialize.
It very well may happen! I can't think of a more racist country right now than the RSA.
I understand the history and all, but there is no future for anyone who believes the road of constant retaliation and paybacks leads to a place called peace and harmony.
The big difference is that we as Americans value life far more than many of these BRICS "civilizations". Population count means nothing when comparing the US with BRICS.
Probably are away from the dollar, and Trump knows this. Probably setting us up long term to be dependent on ourselves as nation through manufacturing growth
Trump did however say during the campaign that he would put 100% tariffs on any country that doesn't use the USD for trade.. This becomes difficult whilst Russia is an international pariah and excluded from using Western financial services. Also, the way Biden administration and other Western Martin's kept Russian dollars and assets would make it difficult for Brics nations to fall into line. So, for BRICS to fall in line Russia would need to be admitted back into the World economy and trust in the safety of assets bringing to other nations be reestablished. This isn't going to be fixed with either a tweet or a threat. It will require far more behind the scenes work
The problem for the US is the BRICS Nations are trading with each other successfully now to get everything they need and there are countries lining up to join. They can adapt among each other. There is a reason why BRICS is buying up tons of gold and precious metals and have done for years. Name one item that they can not get within themselves. This is just bluster because Russia will not meet with Zelensky as they don’t consider him as a legitimate leader - he failed to hold legitimate elections for the people. If he did sign and down the line when Trump is gone, an incoming US Gov. could say ‘well Zelensky wasn’t illegitimate’ and once again NATO could be moved into Ukraine if they were given membership. It’s the Minsk Accords all over. Putin will not be bullied.
You are correct! I believe this is another Trump "bluster". We have seen him use that tactic before. The BRICS nations can get what they need from within their group. I'm not sure where this is headed but I believe there's more to the story than just 1 of Trumps tweets.
It's amazing to see such strong leadership from a President. The execution in the first two weeks has been amazing and is clearly the product of years of meticulous planning.
But I can't help but contrast the decisive, America-first leadership of President Trump with the Republicans in Congress over the past 4 years.
As BRICS nations increased in number during the Biden term, can anyone name a single Republican Congressman or Senator warn the American people about the threat they represent to the U.S. Dollar? Or God forbid, suggest that we punish nations that try to subvert our currency? I have a good memory and I can't think of one.
Sure, there's lots of "brave", outspoken Republicans in congress now that there's a mandate for DJT to kick ass and chew bubble gum. But they were silent for 4 years.
There's a lot more Uniparty Republicans out there than we'd like to realize.
Trump’s balls are so huge, he needs the world’s biggest side by side dump trucks to carry them in. You know the kind of dump truck where there is a guy standing next to one of the massive tires (for scale) and he looks like an ant…. Those kinds of dump trucks.
When you have countries like India straight up financing their businesses to export into the U.S., further lowering their costs (I believe government is also covering freight for export), it is a financial war. I saw a huge shift in purchasing from other Asian countries move to India in a short amount of time and Indian owned businesses in the U.S. moved all purchasing to export businesses out of India. It’s short sighted, quality is usually worse than China, so some are losing profits but this gives them a chance to bolster and improve their manufacturing all while we still ignore manufacturing in the United States.
We are currently in a catch-22 as we have destroyed our own manufacturing and inflation is so high that labor costs and everything else here is so expensive that businesses can’t even get started; therefore relying on cheap crap out of Asia.
So much for the tools who continually post drivel about muh BRICs destroying the US dollar, who are far too enthusiastic about the prospect of Americans having their currency destroyed.
What the "tools" talk about is worthless fed money that's not backed by anything.
Yes, and that is of great harm to the US. It's a system that enriches globalists. But let's not kid ourselves, the cabal controls all countries, all banks across the entire world. Few countries of the world aren't part of this system, and they pay dearly for it.
What I'm referring to are idiots who continually cheer for the destruction of the US dollar, in terms of a comeuppance. They are gleeful at the prospect of Americans having their currency destroyed, and act as if BRICs is innocent and not part of the worldwide system.
If you'd like examples I can hunt down a few that are posted here, where the poster can hardly contain their excitement.
Seems like they presented some some numbers, but Trump is telling them where they stand.
I got a TEMU ad on TS with price drops on a flight simulator chair and a blue computer desk with the numbers 22 and 43. Also a NEW red lift. Meanwhile Trump said this:
"The Blackhawk helicopter was flying too high, by a lot. It was far above the 200 foot limit. That’s not really too complicated to understand, is it???"
Personally, I'd like to see the dollar replaced with a new, government/gold-backed dollar, not the occultic, print 'em up stuff from the increasingly desperate Illuminati Puppet Masters.
This WILL happen
Go take a look at JFK's "silver certificates" from ~1963. The US dollar design was coming in 1964 similar to those, except with "ONE US DOLLAR" at the top instead of "SILVER CERTIFICATE" or "FEDERAL RESERVE DEBT NOTE". JFK was attempting to create competition in order to implode the Federal Reserve. They killed him for it. Globalist shitbags hate competition of any kind.
I used to have a shitton of these .. only 1s and 5s tho...
They had red or blue ink on them...
We have a couple of those.
Wow! I did not know that!
04JUN1963 EO 11110 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110
This amended the Truman EO 10289 from 17SEP1951 and delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the President's authority to issue Silver Certificates. Apparently under Eisenhower the Banker-controlled Congress and Judiciary handcuffed Eisenhower somehow and stopped him from issuing the certificates using Truman's EO. He tried.
CORRECTION: Truman EO originally, not Eisenhower.
Cool! Thanks for the info.
Interesting. If Trump created this system where the US silver or gold certificate was used in every day transactions, how would that work for those holding the actual metal. Would there be 2 prices like $30 for 1 oz of silver versus say for simple comparison, 100 silver certificate note for 1 oz of silver.
Would you then see 2 prices at the store where 1 favors the trade into silver/ gold certificates for your groceries versus the US dollar?
Just a thought, idk how this would work.
Theyed have to break down the denominations I think. 100 dolar bill would be about 1/30th of an ounce. Depending on where gold values end up.
I know, I'm only using numbers for simplicity. I am more questioning how the process would go if BRICS says to Trump "go pound sand we aren't using the dollar, make something else and then we talk" obviously opening the door to create a secondary currency backed by gold and silver.
Todays' Money History Lesson:
Pennies used to be all copper, until they inflated the crap out of the currency to the point where melting them down to turn in for higher scrap value was pulling them from circulation. Currently they're mainly zinc with copper cladding.
https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coins-and-medals/circulating-coins/coin-specifications
https://learn.apmex.com/learning-guide/bullion/what-are-us-coins-made-of/
https://alansfactoryoutlet.com/the-metal-composition-of-american-coins-since-1783/
https://www.livescience.com/32401-whats-a-penny-made-of.html
From the last link: "What's more, it costs more than a cent to make a penny. In 2011, it cost 2.4 cents to manufacture a penny, but production costs fell to 1.7 cents in 2014, according to a report by the United States Mint. The nickel also costs more than its face value to make (about 8 cents), according to the report. But other coins make money for the mint, including the dime (just 3.9 cents) and the quarter (9 cents), the report said. Overall, in 2014 the mint made $289.1 million on seigniorage (the difference it takes to make a coin versus the coin's worth), even though pennies and nickels cost it $90.5 million to make, according to the Wall Street Journal."
Unknown exactly. Presumption is some banks would be “Depositories” holding actual gold/silver as “silver certificates” are redeemable for physical, presumably Constitutional money Silver Eagles. Some evidence that US mint created massive numbers of Silver Eagles for some purpose starting around 2015 and may have millions stockpiled. Note that most recent ones have a space on them for a “unique identifier” implying potential blockchain ledger tracking of EACH silver/gold Eagle coin. [unique identifier can be etched in or embedded at this location].
I think I have some of those
I pray it will, my fellow Patriot!
Yup, that's coming.
Trump, of course, didn’t say the “Dollar” would be the FRN. 😁
I hope and pray that's the case. The system we have now is totally corrupt and benefits evil.
Hopefully this sets a precedent for Trump to back USD with Gold and Silver and the brics was a smoke screen for other countries to get a head start on the Gold rush
Probably correct. Globalist plan was to jam the Yuan up everyone's ass and force everyone to be feudal serfs of Chinese Communist Party, the designated "next global currency" by the bankers as far back as 1971. Euro may have been the backup, but clearly the EU is destroying itself and its economy to intentionally allow an easy takeover by China.
Pushback on BRICS provides cover for Xi to keep undermining the globalists and CCP faction and go with a gold-backed sovereign that would not threaten the dollar directly, but would certainly demolish the World Bank. "Dollar colonialism" ending and revitalized US manufacturing, with a peg to precious metals (Constitutional requirement) saves the US Dollar. Federal Reserve Debt Note gets swapped out for actual US Dollar which is currently not really in use.
Wait a second, I don't follow this.
For years, I was told here that the BRICS group was a good thing, working against the globalists.
Now Trump is attacking the group and anyone who would align themselves with them?
Was BRICS a backup plan in case Trump's original plan failed, and now that Trump's plan DID succeed and he's back in the White House, there's no more need for BRICS and this is his way of getting it to dissolve?
Swift response, everything according to plan? Bonus points to trump, zero losses to BRICS: BRICS is not discussing the creation of a common currency, it is about new investment platforms — Kremlin
Same here! This has me scratching my head.
IIRC, BRICS is the counter move to G7, to give more economic voices to countries that G7 looks down on for reasons.
Now Russia does have a vested interest in creating a new currency, mostly because the Banking Syndicates fucked em over at the start of the Ukraine war.
China is on board with making a new currency because their economy is in tatters and could benefit from something other then the Washington Dollar.
I don't think Trump is saber rattling. I think he's sending comms to these nations, but that's my opinion
I believe that 54% of the world's population is now in BRICS and only about 4% in the US. They might do it anyway.
Isn't the United States about 4% of the world's population? Are you saying only Americans use the US Dollar right now? Not sure about that.
US GDP is about 25% of the world's total GDP.
China will want to have BRICS take over the US Dollar, and then they will bankrupt all of the other BRICS members with their hostile loans, and convert everyone to the Yuan.
But if the other countries in BRICS want to test Trump, they are welcome to FAFO.
All just my personal opinion.
Few use "the US Dollar" right now. Trump is likely being very precise in his language for a reason. Currently in use is "the Federal Reserve Debt Note". They made it look EXACTLY like "the US Dollar" circa 1913 to fool everyone.
I see your point and completely agree with it.
When Trump says the US Dollar I believe he means what the world considers the US Dollar and that's the Federal Reserve Note US Dollar. Whether it is a Federal Reserve Dollar or a US Dollar isn't his point. His point is he doesn't want the rest of the world to replace the US Federal Reserve Dollar with a BRICS replacement or other replacement. There is power in having the world trade using US Dollars. You can go to almost any country and use a US Dollar if you don't have local currency and it will be accepted.
The large play here is the C in briCs, That's for Chyna! And I think we all know the CCP want to control the world. With their predatory loans to 3rd world countries to control ports and access, they have made great progress. They already control ports on both ends of the Panama Canal. They own the port of Long Beach and other US Ports.
Anyways, I have this link for some sauce but can't find anything more current. This is from 2022.
Most traded currencies
Agreed. Note there are two Chinese factions. One is globalist (British intel proxy) CCP attempting to make Yuan “new world currency” to replace US debt/petrodollar fiat. Other is Chinese nationalist led by Xi attempting to pivot to a gold-backed yuan or variation that collapses globalist colonialism and restores Chinese sovereignty.
Structure of Chinese provinces has been tweaked to be more “Federal” like Russia with “sovereign states”. Reasonable probability that Taiwan, Tibet, and Mongolia all officially become part of Chinese Federation as sovereign states similar to US Republic.
It's going to be very interesting to see how things unfold with China.
China takes a grinding decades-long approach, and the US takes a 2 to 4-year ADHD approach.
Trump has a short window to do some pretty major things. If we don't accomplish confronting China while Trump is in charge, I can see China overtaking the US in the global economy and influence over the longterm.
Some deals with Xi and Putin were likely “pre-positioned” 2017-2021. More evidence that Trump expected to skip 2021-2025, and return 2025-2029 when those publicly materialize.
Before 1944, the GB Pound used to be the recognised "global currency". Things change.
I am sure there were lots of comments about never replacing the Pound Sterling at that time as well.
The change had to do with the fact that the United States bailed the British out of certain defeat in WWII. Bretton Woods Agreement.
I Personally hope he Sanctions/tariffs the Shit out of South Africa...Its time to give the commie ANC Government a reality check...🙏🏻
It very well may happen! I can't think of a more racist country right now than the RSA.
I understand the history and all, but there is no future for anyone who believes the road of constant retaliation and paybacks leads to a place called peace and harmony.
Precisely...They cant see ahead...at all.
You can't see through the windshield if you only look through the rearview mirror!
It's going to be both I guess. Backed by commodities.
The big difference is that we as Americans value life far more than many of these BRICS "civilizations". Population count means nothing when comparing the US with BRICS.
Probably are away from the dollar, and Trump knows this. Probably setting us up long term to be dependent on ourselves as nation through manufacturing growth
This is the one thing Trump is wrong about or maybe he is just messaging.
BRICS is a ship sailed.
Doesn't need us and doesn't want us.
We need to focus on getting our own ship repaired and under sail.
Trump did however say during the campaign that he would put 100% tariffs on any country that doesn't use the USD for trade.. This becomes difficult whilst Russia is an international pariah and excluded from using Western financial services. Also, the way Biden administration and other Western Martin's kept Russian dollars and assets would make it difficult for Brics nations to fall into line. So, for BRICS to fall in line Russia would need to be admitted back into the World economy and trust in the safety of assets bringing to other nations be reestablished. This isn't going to be fixed with either a tweet or a threat. It will require far more behind the scenes work
Is this why Gold is being stockpiled in NY?
The problem for the US is the BRICS Nations are trading with each other successfully now to get everything they need and there are countries lining up to join. They can adapt among each other. There is a reason why BRICS is buying up tons of gold and precious metals and have done for years. Name one item that they can not get within themselves. This is just bluster because Russia will not meet with Zelensky as they don’t consider him as a legitimate leader - he failed to hold legitimate elections for the people. If he did sign and down the line when Trump is gone, an incoming US Gov. could say ‘well Zelensky wasn’t illegitimate’ and once again NATO could be moved into Ukraine if they were given membership. It’s the Minsk Accords all over. Putin will not be bullied.
You are correct! I believe this is another Trump "bluster". We have seen him use that tactic before. The BRICS nations can get what they need from within their group. I'm not sure where this is headed but I believe there's more to the story than just 1 of Trumps tweets.
It's amazing to see such strong leadership from a President. The execution in the first two weeks has been amazing and is clearly the product of years of meticulous planning.
But I can't help but contrast the decisive, America-first leadership of President Trump with the Republicans in Congress over the past 4 years.
As BRICS nations increased in number during the Biden term, can anyone name a single Republican Congressman or Senator warn the American people about the threat they represent to the U.S. Dollar? Or God forbid, suggest that we punish nations that try to subvert our currency? I have a good memory and I can't think of one.
Sure, there's lots of "brave", outspoken Republicans in congress now that there's a mandate for DJT to kick ass and chew bubble gum. But they were silent for 4 years.
There's a lot more Uniparty Republicans out there than we'd like to realize.
Trump’s balls are so huge, he needs the world’s biggest side by side dump trucks to carry them in. You know the kind of dump truck where there is a guy standing next to one of the massive tires (for scale) and he looks like an ant…. Those kinds of dump trucks.
When you have countries like India straight up financing their businesses to export into the U.S., further lowering their costs (I believe government is also covering freight for export), it is a financial war. I saw a huge shift in purchasing from other Asian countries move to India in a short amount of time and Indian owned businesses in the U.S. moved all purchasing to export businesses out of India. It’s short sighted, quality is usually worse than China, so some are losing profits but this gives them a chance to bolster and improve their manufacturing all while we still ignore manufacturing in the United States.
We are currently in a catch-22 as we have destroyed our own manufacturing and inflation is so high that labor costs and everything else here is so expensive that businesses can’t even get started; therefore relying on cheap crap out of Asia.
Decent explanation:
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2039117
https://piceapp.com/blogs/export-incentives-in-india-after-gst/
And
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-offer-up-5-bln-incentives-local-electronics-firms-wean-off-china-2024-11-22/#:~:text=NEW%20DELHI%2C%20Nov%2022%20(Reuters,wean%20off%20supplies%20from%20China.
Tariffs is my new favorite word. I absolutely love what Trump is doing. 🇺🇸
Time to get a metals backed u.s. treasury note and burn all the federal reserve notes. If that's what he means then I'm in.
Silver - Gold. If you don’t HOLD it, you don’t OWN it. You physically need to hold that gold and silver in your own hands.
So much for the tools who continually post drivel about muh BRICs destroying the US dollar, who are far too enthusiastic about the prospect of Americans having their currency destroyed.
Yes, and that is of great harm to the US. It's a system that enriches globalists. But let's not kid ourselves, the cabal controls all countries, all banks across the entire world. Few countries of the world aren't part of this system, and they pay dearly for it.
What I'm referring to are idiots who continually cheer for the destruction of the US dollar, in terms of a comeuppance. They are gleeful at the prospect of Americans having their currency destroyed, and act as if BRICs is innocent and not part of the worldwide system.
If you'd like examples I can hunt down a few that are posted here, where the poster can hardly contain their excitement.
Seems like they presented some some numbers, but Trump is telling them where they stand.
I got a TEMU ad on TS with price drops on a flight simulator chair and a blue computer desk with the numbers 22 and 43. Also a NEW red lift. Meanwhile Trump said this:
"The Blackhawk helicopter was flying too high, by a lot. It was far above the 200 foot limit. That’s not really too complicated to understand, is it???"
I think maybe Apple's putting on a show.