Yup. This is what I have to keep explaining to people. Trump doesn't want or need to actually put high tariffs on other countries. Just needs them to know he will if they don't play nice. Trump knows what cards he has. And he knows what cards the other players don't have. Imagine playing poker under that scenario. You're gonna win every time.
Right? Except Canada was always gonna fafo. We can pay their stupid tarrifs all day. They can't afford to pay ours all day. Them caving was always an eventuality
An Unelected man is negotiating on behalf of all of Canada. Dropping some of these tariffs will put farmers out of business really soon. There is some preservation & Wisdom within certain tariffs. This is an unimaginable moment in History.
In the bigger picture, this is not a good news for many Canadian Farmers. Your Father is free to have an experienced opinion but he does not speak for all of Canada.
Can't blame you. But many will buy it at 1/3 the cost . I would say it is your unelected Overlord that should cry. But he doesn't give a shit about Canucks.
Yes, that and people crossing illegally into the US. Turdeau made a bunch of half-assed promises to crack down on both and essentially did nothing. Trump got sick of the all talk, no walk routine from Lil Justin and slapped tarrifs on Canada.
Fair question. Unsure. But I'm guessing a combination of the residuals from the nations that don't drop their tariffs plus a national sales tax, as they're doing in South Dakota and elsewhere, could be enough to make it happen.
What effect would this have on the control of fentanyl coming in? I thought the tariffs and the fentanyl trafficking were being treated as one joint issue.
Wrong, that's not what you sound like. You sound like one of those ignorant normies who still think that the people of a country align with their government, when we all know that most governments in the world are installed illegally, against the people's will. Remember Biden? Obama?
We are all patriots here, and need to recognize that. When you lump the people of an entire country together, whether that be Canada, the UK, Germany, or whatever, you are not understanding the Plan.
This is a stupid trick. Mexico had a similar NAFTA FUCK OFF CLINTON SHITSHOW agreement. The trick is that other cunt erys use Mexico as a workaround. Mexico is letting CHYnA, bend the U.S. over and fuck it in the ass. Meanwhile they lace the illigal drugs with deadly fentinal to kill Americans. They just import all their goods into the CARTEL COUNTY ( MEXICO) THEN SHOVE INTO THE U.S. AS MEXICAN GOODS.
That was the goal from day 1. Did Trump really want Canada as 51? Maybe, but I think its more likely he just wanted an economic relationship with Canada analogous to the relationships between the 50 States where goods flow freely back and forth with no roadblocks such as tariffs and that he was trolling them as he does to get movement in the direction he wanted. Weve all seen this work before.
I hope no deal... let Canadians see who was unelected and just placed in that position to ruin their lives. He must of woke up and realized Cansda can't support itself at all.
I'm for justice as much as the next red-blooded American, but no deal w/ Canada will crush the good populist-nationalist Canadians that supported the truckers a few years back.
Better to lead by example. Responding w/ half of their tariffs is merciful. And virtues like mercy are in great need from our leaders, perhaps more today than ever before.
The way they have been tariffing our goods it is a shame if our president lets them squirm out of this, for any reason! They knew the deal-but President Trump did do the USMCA deal with Canada and Mexico-I still say they should pay.
It'll never happen. Quebec has 50 year protectionist dairy deal with Ottawa. Canada didn't budge for Trump's 2016 USCM deal and Quebec won't budge for Carney.
I think he wants to go back to the way it was, meaning Canada builds in the tariff and the US eats it, like it has been for ages. As long as it means REAL, ZERO tariffs on both sides, I'm in. Americans are happy to compete on a level field, because WE'RE GOOD AT IT!.
Ok you can drop your tariffs scumball, but Trump will never drop our tariffs against Canada because theyβve been fucking us for years. Other countries have been fucking US companies with huge tariffs into their countries so bad that we werenβt able to ship to those countries while the US let them ship their shit here terrif free. Fuck them all. Now they pay us FOREVER! And bye bye income taxes and irs when that happens.
Why not? Or do you just want to hurt the innocent people of a nation that has struggled against globalists much like you, but without someone like Trump to rescue them?
they should do it for at least 2 years first as a sign of good will. maybe forever. don't want to hurt the canadianons but fuck that government just like the rest of em. need to be put in their place until the masses are ready to vote for something different
bend the knee eh
We should keep 50% or something less than what it was going to be, but not 0. FAFO.
Not only FAFO, parity! One for one!
For however long the tariffs have been waged against the U.S. We want our money back!
This is the exact intent of the tariffs
Yup. This is what I have to keep explaining to people. Trump doesn't want or need to actually put high tariffs on other countries. Just needs them to know he will if they don't play nice. Trump knows what cards he has. And he knows what cards the other players don't have. Imagine playing poker under that scenario. You're gonna win every time.
Precisely. It's a good day to be an American.
u betcha eh
Not until he kisses the ring.
βReciprocalβ
Hard to grasp???
Right? Except Canada was always gonna fafo. We can pay their stupid tarrifs all day. They can't afford to pay ours all day. Them caving was always an eventuality
An Unelected man is negotiating on behalf of all of Canada. Dropping some of these tariffs will put farmers out of business really soon. There is some preservation & Wisdom within certain tariffs. This is an unimaginable moment in History.
I'm the son of a hog and beef cattle farmer. Dad always said, "No farmer ever got rich off government subsidies."
To that, I'd add, There's no such thing as job security. Nobody knows that better than farmers. This shift is a long time coming.
In the bigger picture, this is not a good news for many Canadian Farmers. Your Father is free to have an experienced opinion but he does not speak for all of Canada.
Whoa there, Nelly. I never thought, let alone stated, that my father, may he rest in peace.
As with every necessary course correction, time will tell how this shakes out for everyone, Canadian farmers included.
Your Father is an American Farmer?
He was, yes, until a stroke retired him at 58.
I'm sorry you lost your father at such a young age. The mental and work stress of a modern Farmer is a heavy burden.
Thanks, but he only retired from farming at 58. We got to enjoy him for another quarter-century after that.
And you're right. Farming today is much more complicated than it ever was. Do you farm?
In the bigger picture, this is really good news for all Canadians and many Canadian Farmers. The corrupt commie supply management cartels just died.
I won't shed a tear if some of the farmers who've had generational wealth from handing dairy quota to their kids have to start working hard.
Too late. they fucked America for too long and now must pay reparations. They think it will end when Trump is gone.
And we don't want your Indians or fentanyl πππ
Can't blame you. But many will buy it at 1/3 the cost . I would say it is your unelected Overlord that should cry. But he doesn't give a shit about Canucks.
What about the gov't subsidies in Canada?
What about the gov't deliberately de-valuing the Canadian dollar?
Maple syrup and trees are on sale ? How will they pay their debt which is denominated in the Worlds reserve currency ?
What about cracking down on fentanyl, wasn't this a main bone of contention in the first place?
Yes, that and people crossing illegally into the US. Turdeau made a bunch of half-assed promises to crack down on both and essentially did nothing. Trump got sick of the all talk, no walk routine from Lil Justin and slapped tarrifs on Canada.
The bone is not really the reason people like to eat the leg. But does make it easy to talk about and handle.
Lower cost of cheese in Canada woohoo
So tarrifs work?
For the people , not so much for our owners/bankers grift.
If all these tariffs get dropped and Trump reciprocates, how will we be able to get rid of the IRS?
Fair question. Unsure. But I'm guessing a combination of the residuals from the nations that don't drop their tariffs plus a national sales tax, as they're doing in South Dakota and elsewhere, could be enough to make it happen.
What effect would this have on the control of fentanyl coming in? I thought the tariffs and the fentanyl trafficking were being treated as one joint issue.
Great question. Unsure.
The art of the deal!
What other tricks does Carney have up his sleeve?
Ask JFK.
No.
Make Carney beg Trump to stop.
Live, on tv.
While on his knees.
Then raise them all 100% more.
Why?
Got downvoted for asking a question. What has happened to GAW?
To see the commies beg for mercy.
Canadian politicians hold zero cards in their hand, Trump can easily destroy their entire economy and they know it.
Make them beg for mercy.
I think destroying their economy would fit under the old saying about "cutting off your nose to spite your face".
"Pour encourager les autres."
Translation: βTo encourage othersβ.
Do you realize what you sound like?
A person who knows how to negotiate from a position of strength.
If the other side believes that you do not care if they survive or not they will be thankful when you allow them to have the crumbs off your table.
They will then thank you for your benevolence.
Now go weep with the losers.
Wrong, that's not what you sound like. You sound like one of those ignorant normies who still think that the people of a country align with their government, when we all know that most governments in the world are installed illegally, against the people's will. Remember Biden? Obama?
We are all patriots here, and need to recognize that. When you lump the people of an entire country together, whether that be Canada, the UK, Germany, or whatever, you are not understanding the Plan.
This is a stupid trick. Mexico had a similar NAFTA FUCK OFF CLINTON SHITSHOW agreement. The trick is that other cunt erys use Mexico as a workaround. Mexico is letting CHYnA, bend the U.S. over and fuck it in the ass. Meanwhile they lace the illigal drugs with deadly fentinal to kill Americans. They just import all their goods into the CARTEL COUNTY ( MEXICO) THEN SHOVE INTO THE U.S. AS MEXICAN GOODS.
Tariffs are the stick.
Something most people today don't understand. There is no negotiating without one.
Carney needs the tariffs outrage to get elected but could do this after.
watch him follow that with increase subsidies to continue undercutting America.
but I'll take the win.
But, but.....I dont wanna pay income taxes!! What about Liberation Day?!?!?
that's the whole point of reciprocal tariffs, retard
Ok but you first.
What about securing the border???
That was the goal from day 1. Did Trump really want Canada as 51? Maybe, but I think its more likely he just wanted an economic relationship with Canada analogous to the relationships between the 50 States where goods flow freely back and forth with no roadblocks such as tariffs and that he was trolling them as he does to get movement in the direction he wanted. Weve all seen this work before.
Didnβt take long to cripple those idiots. What exactly did wasting a ton of American liquor do again?
Please clarify to whom you're referring.
Don't simply downvote. Answer the question if you're going to respond at all.
Who are the idiots? The corrupt government, or the people of Canada?
I think many here are hurling too wide a net when it comes to insults.
I hope no deal... let Canadians see who was unelected and just placed in that position to ruin their lives. He must of woke up and realized Cansda can't support itself at all.
I'm for justice as much as the next red-blooded American, but no deal w/ Canada will crush the good populist-nationalist Canadians that supported the truckers a few years back.
Better to lead by example. Responding w/ half of their tariffs is merciful. And virtues like mercy are in great need from our leaders, perhaps more today than ever before.
The way they have been tariffing our goods it is a shame if our president lets them squirm out of this, for any reason! They knew the deal-but President Trump did do the USMCA deal with Canada and Mexico-I still say they should pay.
What a surprise.
Did he run it by Doug Ford, first?
It'll never happen. Quebec has 50 year protectionist dairy deal with Ottawa. Canada didn't budge for Trump's 2016 USCM deal and Quebec won't budge for Carney.
Trump is applying maximum pain to exactly the right pain points in a way that Quebec has never before experienced. Wait and see.
Wow.
I think he wants to go back to the way it was, meaning Canada builds in the tariff and the US eats it, like it has been for ages. As long as it means REAL, ZERO tariffs on both sides, I'm in. Americans are happy to compete on a level field, because WE'RE GOOD AT IT!.
Ok you can drop your tariffs scumball, but Trump will never drop our tariffs against Canada because theyβve been fucking us for years. Other countries have been fucking US companies with huge tariffs into their countries so bad that we werenβt able to ship to those countries while the US let them ship their shit here terrif free. Fuck them all. Now they pay us FOREVER! And bye bye income taxes and irs when that happens.
Why not? Or do you just want to hurt the innocent people of a nation that has struggled against globalists much like you, but without someone like Trump to rescue them?
they should do it for at least 2 years first as a sign of good will. maybe forever. don't want to hurt the canadianons but fuck that government just like the rest of em. need to be put in their place until the masses are ready to vote for something different
Opening line "Could a devastating trade war be resolved by both the United States and Canada dropping all tariffs altogether?"
Haha devastating for them. We wouldn't blink.