Thank you for sharing, albeit not easy. You're concern is warranted, Fren. I know many who are young and dealing with new medical issues (from the jabs).
You're a wonderful Mom and so is your daughter. Keep doing what you're doing...... until you're heard. 🙏
Dog dewormer cures cancer. Have her try to get some Ivermectin, either from Tractor Supply or a pharmacy in India. Yea, she probably does not have cancer BUT the Ivermectin certainly does cure a lot of ailments. Maybe her vaxx results could be remitted by taking Ivermectin. If I were in her shoes I'd be taking three or four 12mg pills per day. 500 12 mg pills can be had from India for around $120. Does this sound like a viable option? If not, then don't do anything except take my advise as a passing thought. But if it does sound like good advise then ponder it and come up with a game plan on how to convince your daughter to begin a dosing regimen so maybe her life can be extended. Have a great day, fren.
That is not going to matter if she doesn't make it. Push the spike protein detox hard, and at the very least the ivermectin. Ivermectin is given to animals all the time with no deference to pregnant or not with no reported side effects that I have ever seen. I would search for any research on it in regard to pregnancy.
I have a very good friend that died almost four years ago. He died of cancer and I pushed fenbendazole hard to try to get him to take it. He had nothing to lose, but refused and now he is gone.
Holy Father, I beg you to assist u/LoneJury ‘s daughter who has been suffering from her vaccine side-effect. I pray all this beautiful family keeps enjoying themselves for a long time.🙏🏻
Christ is the only way to the Father. I don’t know what she’s dreaming about but if she hasn’t chosen to pursue Christ and His Cross she will not be welcomed before the Father after death. I compel you to tell her to start reading Matthew and just go until the Bible ends.
No one knows this for sure. I used to believe the same thing, after talking to people that have died and come back, as well as watching 1000’s of videos of people that have had NDE’s I’m beginning to think that religion, just like every other thing man has touched, has been changed and corrupted. Pretty much everyone that has had a NDE all experience some of the same stuff, most notably absolute love and acceptance. It never really made sense to me that a God that loves us more than we could possibly love our own children would send his children to hell for simply not worshipping him. That sounds like a jealous God, not a loving one. In fact just reading your response that basically says she will be tortured for eternity makes God sound extremely cruel. Who would really even want to worship a God like that? It’s almost as if most people worship him only because they don’t want to go to hell, not because they love him. Ironic to say the least. I believe in God with everything inside of me, I no longer believe in the church. I talk to and have a relationship with God because I believe he is pure love and consciousness and the creator of everything, not because he’s some evil dictator in the sky waiting to make my life hell every time I mess up, or because I’m afraid to die and go to hell. He is around all of us and he is within all of us.
Well put! I never understood that either, why talk to Jesus if I can pray directly to God? It seems so ass backwards it’s crazy. Once I really started paying attention to the Bible it started making less sense. A truly all knowing loving God would condemn me because I’m not on my knees worshiping him? That sounds very… human like, not something a loving God would require.
I grew up in a Christian and Masonic family. Had a fantastic childhood, but had lots of questions, like you.
Easter 2022 I had an epiphany about communion; drinking blood and eating flesh is not something I ever wanted to do. Then it "clicked" on my drive home after SUNrise service. Communion is too close for comfort of what the CABAL literally does! Christians will say it's symbolism of Christ's sacrifice; trying to justify it as just symbolism. Think how happy that makes the Devil. And they do it in "worship". Didn't god say to have No Idols?
I'm reminded of a Q quote.
Symbolism will be their downfall.
No we can’t, but some people get tired of hearing we will not make it to heaven because we didn’t do this or that. Luckily my eyes have been opened after living most of my life in fear that I would piss off God and if I didnt ask for forgiveness right before I died I’d be tormented, living like that got exhausting. You don’t know anything special to make the claim you made yet you did it so matter factly. Almost all religions point to the same thing, you can feel free to believe whatever you want but there’s a reason that so many religions have flood stories (and very similar other stories) in them and many were written down thousands of years before any books were written that we now call the Bible.
I stated no condemnation, merely the fact that there is only one way to the Father and that is through Christ.
“And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.”
I John 5:11-13 NKJV
I’ve read the Bible, it doesn’t take away the fact it was likely changed at some point. My belief that God is a loving God more than he is a jealous hateful God will probably suit me fine. There’s so many contradictions and parables in the Bible that it’s hard to imagine Man didn’t write some of it or add to it for their own agenda. Also, you don’t know if that actually is a fact or not, you’re stating that everything the Bible says and or the way the church interpreted what it says is a fact. The part where you told her if her daughter doesn’t know Christ, she’s doomed, like you are some noble know it all, that’s where the issue lies, and that’s what people are sick of hearing. Also, why would Christ be the only way to the father? I’m pretty sure he can hear us calling out his name too. And what about the people in 3rd world nations or remote tribes that have never heard of Christianity? It seems odd and cruel that they should suffer. There’s many things that just don’t add up coming from a truly loving God which I believe he is.
The church is all about control and believers use "faith" as a weapon against their neighbors. I finally told my Bro I didn't want to talk to him anymore if he keeps shoving down my throat, "Do YOU know where you're going?" He uses the bible to justify his language towards me. Many believers do this.
I find it hard to believe you read the entire Bible and still talk like this. Have you read the entire Bible? Have you been to study groups that explain it?
Nothing to clarify lmao, I grew up in church and I’ve read the Bible atleast twice. The more I read it the less it makes sense that an all knowing loving God would be the person to send someone to hell simply for living a life that HE gave us. Cold blooded murderers and Satan worshippers? Sure, but normal everyday people that don’t worship him will all of their heart? Doubtful. Why would I want to go to a study group to explain anything? Have you looked into ancient txt that say a lot of the same things our bibles say but was written long before the books of our Bible?
Why would one be doomed without Christ when there is also a God? Doesn’t seem to make sense. So people that have never heard of of Christianity are doomed? Odd considering Jesus was not even a Christian… I know what Christianity is, but it still stands to reason that everyone that did not follow him were doomed? Weird
Likely? I laughed when I read that. If you read the history of the Bible you'll know that it was cobbled together from several different manuscripts - some detailing the horrors of the "Elohim" rulers of the time. Those manuscripts were translated and translated again (mistranslated in many cases). Also word meanings changed over centuries. And the whole lot was rewritten, edited and redacted by various committees with political agendas. And, finally, many people need a priest or other "expert" to interpret it.
That said, The Bible has a lot of useful stuff and if you choose to live your life according to the sensible parts ("love thy neighbor," etc.) then you'll do fine. But if you believe that God and/or Jesus personally wrote The Bible, then I can only sympathize.
Yeah, I was being nice in that regard, of course it changed. Over all like you say, the teachings are still very valuable and very important in my opinion.
I mean seriously, pretty much most of history seems to be a lie, we were lied to about almost everything yet they left the many books of the Bible that were written many years apart alone? Doubtful…
interesting. For truthers this is a hard thing. For people that can-not stop digging for information it is a hard thing. We are all individuals under God. Individually we are going to be Judged. The more one knows the more one has to either harden their heart or accept. We are individually able to volunteer or not. I view it as levels. Like in networking if you are a CCIE you will be paid more and also have more responsibility than one who is a CCNA or CCNP.
Deuteronomy 4:24 and James 4:16-17
24 For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Yeah no, I totally believe in God, I’ve seen miracles in my own life, I don’t believe the dogma around it any more though, I don’t believe if one worships the wrong god or is part of the wrong dominion that they are going to hell. Also, we all sin apparently so not doing good is as much of a sin as getting tattoos, or are sins weighed differently?
we are -individuals- it is all up to us as an individual. For instance I am a human. I am not diabetic, but if I eat too much sugar I physically feel ill. So sugar to me is a sin. To another sugar is not a sin... In the Spiritual sense if one is of Jesus, a Christian, which essentially means Christ-Like.. those people would tend to start becoming more like Christ. This is a very personal Journey for each person and it is a personal choice to volunteer.
Nothing I can do to force another to think like me and vice-versa.
The question(s) to you might be something like,
why would a person who is LGBTQ want to go to Heaven? Everything they stand for is to smite people who do not do as they do.
How would there be peace in Heaven if those who are in Heaven have different opinions about what a woman is? That would not be Heaven.
Jesus is a Divider, not a Uniter when it comes to good vs evil. No one can do what Jesus did in the flesh. Yes we are all human and we all define good and evil, light and darkness--differently, but Jesus defines things His way, not our way.
The foundational concepts of the USA Constitution are very much the same. Man is destroying the USA Constitution.
The -MEEK- inherit the Earth for a reason. It is a Law of God. Not a balance. It is a division. The Meek are not weak. They are very compassionate and very, very patient. Once the patience finally runs out. The wrath is quick and decisive to get back to peace.
Don’t get me wrong, I very much believe in God, I pray every morning, every night and pretty much constantly during the day. I love my relationship with him, I just do not believe the dogma that surrounds Christianity any more. The Catholic Church was very controlling and had a lot of power back when certain books were decided on as far as what would make it in our Bible. What about the text that explains Jesus was literally a mystic? He basically said I did not come to save you, I showed you how to save yourself and that Christ is within every one of us, it sounds like more of what I’m starting to believe than the old accepted text. Why were books like that left out? We are left with a perfect control scheme. It really is genius actually.
Your definition of God could what others perceive as the Devil. In fact what you write falls in that line. It is only you that knows why and who you do what you do and say. Doesn't do anything to me. I find it entertaining and much needed for people to start waking up. Nothing the evil side can do now to stop what is starting to grow. They destroyed themselves. There will always be victims and perpetrators. Now there will be Knights of Virtue to slay the perpetrators who wear the gowns and crowns that say "Victim" :) it will be a wonderful next couple of decades.
How is what I’m saying in line with the devil? Lmao. Jesus literally said the kingdom of god is within us… all I said is that books seem to have been left out, nothing devilish about that. To think that man and government corrupt everything other than religion seems a bit naive, but you do you 😀
I’ll check it out, and you are correct and that’s what I was kinda getting to, the whole not marking thy skin in Leviticus. The mental gymnastics some people have gone through to tell me I’m going to hell because I have a few tattoos is hilarious. It’s almost as if they skipped over the whole not shaving thing that can be found in that same book, they have no idea that was written for the Israelites at the time.
Also I’m not telling anyone not to believe in God, the world seems to be a better place when people do because they have fear of judgement, all I was saying is the whole “your going to hell if you don’t know Jesus” stuff gets old. We can know and love him differently than you do and that should be fine.
that is called an opinion and that is what you believe. Fear of judgement... why fear something that is out ones control? Nothing I can do to stop the inevitable. Fear can mean respect. It has other definitions. I fear the Lord AKA I respect the Lord. We as humans are very selfish and self-righteous. Nothing I can do for that either.
it is an individual who makes their own individual minds. Like in Bowling for instance. Johnie over there bowls and always gets the ball in the gutter--that should be fine. Johnie will still be a pro bowler.
in Johnie's mind he can be a pro bowler for sure, but in reality he is not at the Level. If Johnie starts telling others how good his is at bowling, is that a lie?
Levels--what level do you want to get to? that is the question. I pray to be weak, because the depth of this stuff is very, very terrifying. :)
yes. that is the great thing about having one. When most peoples opinions are line with good things then things like locking the house door, car doors, and such will disappear. Yet in the Western World the foundation is solid but they have put so much sand on top of the foundation it confuses the weak. The weak think their opinions are superior, when they are built on sand that was trucked in my anti-Christ ideologies. Yes it is that simple. The world will always hate the Opinion of Jesus and His people.
I mean for hundreds of years the Catholic Church was free to do whatever it wanted to heretics, they didn’t hate it then 😅 no one said my opinions are superior, in fact I commented because someone else thought there’s was. I could care less if anyone listens to my opinion lmao.
My wife is a nurse and a few years ago I asked her "Why don't we treat humans for parasites". She stopped in her tracks and didn't have an immediate answer. She reluctantly said "Probably because we have safer food supplies and better sanitation".
Maybe ask your Daughter the same question. Or ask her why pregnant women are told to NOT handle a cat litter box (Toxoplasma Gondii).
I'm 99.5% certain "auto immune" diseases are just a modern made up term to cover up the symptoms of parasites in your body. We've already seen evidence that they put parasites in some batches of shots along with other evil substances.
Don't read this document if you've recently eaten. It's VERY informative, but also VERY gross.
That's very difficult. Sorry you're dealing with this. I'll join others here offering prayers for you and for your daughter, and her family.
I encourage you to pray fervently like David: intensely, humbly. Consider fasting for a time while you make your petition. And then give it to God. And then rest, acknowledging that God's ways are not our ways, and He has reasons for everything even though they are beyond our understanding.
I'll pray that she is given a choice, and that she chooses to live. Encourage her to ask God for a choice, to see her babies grow and thrive in the coming new, more joyous world.
If she's open to any protocol, there are easier ones than all the supplements from The Wellness Co. (Nicotine patches are way easier and cheaper than supplements, and worked better for me.) But no protocol will work for someone who won't try, as you already know. Keep the offer open to help, and encourage her to ask God for more time, even if it's only for the sake of those who love your daughter and don't want to see her go.
Prayers for sure. I am so sorry you’re going through this. Natiokinesse has helped my son with clots ( theoretically non vaxed but we suspect he was vaxed prior to a procedure but can’t prove it) and there is great deal more to detox that can help. I will post when I get time. That is to improve her quality of time which we pray will be long. There is another explanation fren. The lord may be calling her to grow close not necessarily home. Even if as you say this is prophetic dream he showed her this for a reason. Perhaps to inspire her so she has a more meaningful life. Pray on it fren and I will be praying for discernment.
I want to write and let you know u/LoneJury that I, too have a daughter who is vaxxed and is suffering from an autoimmune issue.
She is always very tired and when I saw her yesterday, she just looked older and so pale. She has always been full of energy, but many around her are saying it's her demanding job that is causing all this.
I actually did get her the detox protocol from the Wellness Company and she did take it, but I think she needs to do another one.
She and her husband are experiencing infertility issues, that I feel are a result of her being vaxxed.
I'll pray for your daughter and for your family that she may live a long life to be there to raise her children. I hope you can try and convince her (maybe after the baby is delivered) to go ahead with a detox regimen.
Stay strong, rely on your faith during this difficult time.
Wishing you and your family all the best.
I reached out here myself almost 3 years ago for prayers for my daughter and her unborn baby. She was having issues with her pregnancy and had taken the first covid shot beforehand. People here offered their prayers and ultimately my daughter had a healthy baby girl (who will be 3 soon). Thanks again for that!
Just know that a bunch of people here (including me) will follow through for you with many prayers.
You aren't alone.
By the way - thank you mods for continuing to allow these posts, and for helping to get more eyes on them. It helps a lot for people in need.
Lead her to Jesus. Find Him first, if you don’t know Him already, then introduce her to Him. He will lead and comfort you both through this tribulation.
Numbers 6:24 - The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
Numbers 6:25 - The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
Numbers 6:26 - The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
My dear long departed dad once told me the old saying > "there's none so helpless as them that won't help themselves"
I never thought about much until COVID, when I tried to convince my mum and siblings to avoid the shot.
And during that time my dad's words came back to me. Try as I might, I was faced by the horrifying understanding, that my family chose to trust the words of evil strangers over the deep instinct of a brother's/son's need to protect those he loved.
I was crushed and full of guilt at first, I thought that I had failed somehow by not being able to convince them of the obvious danger. Then came the fear, as I dreaded the bad news. Currently, I am resigned because I can see the signs of extreme closed mindedness and blank denial that seems to me to be the Clot-shot Mark of the Beast effect. Currently, my principal strategy is "hope". I desperately hope that everyone I care about got given the placebo saline shots. I hope that the logical, analytical experts I assessed and found plausible enough to listen to, I hope they are all wrong.
There's none so helpless, than them that won't help themselves.
What can be done to help a daughter who is unable to even entertain the help offered by a parent's genuine and loving concern?
I don't think there is anything more that you can do than what is being done currently by you already. Love your daughter, blindly, unconditionally with everything you have and stand ready to help should an opportunity or the need arise.
Your daughter has one amazing advantage in life though, she has you by her side.
Sending positive thoughts, prayers and vibes your way.
She needs to be taking Bifidobacterium Longum
The vax completely destroys this very important bacteria, it is the first building block of immunity. Look into Dr. Sabine Hazan, her testimony to the cov 19 response panel as well as multiple interviews on her research. Babe needs it as well, babies born to v moms have little to none, and they should be flourishing. Praying she does something to improve health. Severe anemia has happened with me just from my mother shedding on me. It’s been a long battle but God finally put in my thoughts how copper might be playing a role. Sure enough I’ve found research that copper is completely depleted in both v and non v. Anyway, please look into the info provided,
My wife is "fully vaxxed" plus flu and shingles. I do have concerns but she has to do her own thing. She is extremely intelligent. She has a medical background so I can't teach her anything. At present she seems fine.
Your daughter sounds similar except that she hasn't been so lucky. I would think it extremely unlikely that you can persuade her to take any drug on your recommendation. It would have to come on a doctor's prescription. But don't stop trying. Maybe you could persuade her to get a blood test. Start with a D-Dimer. Include vitamin D measurement, which is extremely important for the immune system.
I personally find HCQ is useful for some autoimmune disorders. Ivermectin and nattokinase are supposed to be good for spike protein damage - Iver especially for the nervous system.
There IS something you can do. And it is something ALL OF US HERE can do to help you and your daughter. Pray. I will put your daughter in my daily prayers from now on. God bless you and give you peace.
I'm so sorry, Lone Jury. Be sure that your daughter is getting the best nutrition and hydration and a lot of rest. There is so much information coming out now about the toxicity of the shots, maybe your daughter will realize that detoxing might be a good idea. I've had what I believe is a spike protein infection in my throat since April. I wasn't vaxxed, but was shed upon. I've been trying NAC and Bromelain once a day and Natto twice a day for a few weeks but it isn't gone yet. It may take some persistence.
Yes, I've worried about some of my vaxxed relatives. But they were believers, so at least there's the comfort of knowing we'll be together in heaven regardless of when we die. I've had to come to grips with the fact that I have no control over other people's choices, no matter how much I love them. I guess we have to focus on loving them while they're here on earth with us. Blessings, fren.
May your daughter live a long and happy life fren.
Thank you for sharing, albeit not easy. You're concern is warranted, Fren. I know many who are young and dealing with new medical issues (from the jabs). You're a wonderful Mom and so is your daughter. Keep doing what you're doing...... until you're heard. 🙏
🙏 for you and your daughter
Dog dewormer cures cancer. Have her try to get some Ivermectin, either from Tractor Supply or a pharmacy in India. Yea, she probably does not have cancer BUT the Ivermectin certainly does cure a lot of ailments. Maybe her vaxx results could be remitted by taking Ivermectin. If I were in her shoes I'd be taking three or four 12mg pills per day. 500 12 mg pills can be had from India for around $120. Does this sound like a viable option? If not, then don't do anything except take my advise as a passing thought. But if it does sound like good advise then ponder it and come up with a game plan on how to convince your daughter to begin a dosing regimen so maybe her life can be extended. Have a great day, fren.
That is not going to matter if she doesn't make it. Push the spike protein detox hard, and at the very least the ivermectin. Ivermectin is given to animals all the time with no deference to pregnant or not with no reported side effects that I have ever seen. I would search for any research on it in regard to pregnancy.
I have a very good friend that died almost four years ago. He died of cancer and I pushed fenbendazole hard to try to get him to take it. He had nothing to lose, but refused and now he is gone.
oh that is terrible, BUT YOU AND HER HAVE ALL OUR PRAYERS FREN
Holy Father, I beg you to assist u/LoneJury ‘s daughter who has been suffering from her vaccine side-effect. I pray all this beautiful family keeps enjoying themselves for a long time.🙏🏻
Most of us,have family to worry about,I pray they are all ok.
Adding my prayers to everyone here for you, your daughter and her children. Praying also that she will detox. 🙏🤍
❤️💐
Christ is the only way to the Father. I don’t know what she’s dreaming about but if she hasn’t chosen to pursue Christ and His Cross she will not be welcomed before the Father after death. I compel you to tell her to start reading Matthew and just go until the Bible ends.
No one knows this for sure. I used to believe the same thing, after talking to people that have died and come back, as well as watching 1000’s of videos of people that have had NDE’s I’m beginning to think that religion, just like every other thing man has touched, has been changed and corrupted. Pretty much everyone that has had a NDE all experience some of the same stuff, most notably absolute love and acceptance. It never really made sense to me that a God that loves us more than we could possibly love our own children would send his children to hell for simply not worshipping him. That sounds like a jealous God, not a loving one. In fact just reading your response that basically says she will be tortured for eternity makes God sound extremely cruel. Who would really even want to worship a God like that? It’s almost as if most people worship him only because they don’t want to go to hell, not because they love him. Ironic to say the least. I believe in God with everything inside of me, I no longer believe in the church. I talk to and have a relationship with God because I believe he is pure love and consciousness and the creator of everything, not because he’s some evil dictator in the sky waiting to make my life hell every time I mess up, or because I’m afraid to die and go to hell. He is around all of us and he is within all of us.
Well said Fren. I'm with you.
Question: Did we need an intermediator to talk to our earthly father? No. I also don't believe our heavenly Father requires one either.
Well put! I never understood that either, why talk to Jesus if I can pray directly to God? It seems so ass backwards it’s crazy. Once I really started paying attention to the Bible it started making less sense. A truly all knowing loving God would condemn me because I’m not on my knees worshiping him? That sounds very… human like, not something a loving God would require.
I grew up in a Christian and Masonic family. Had a fantastic childhood, but had lots of questions, like you.
Easter 2022 I had an epiphany about communion; drinking blood and eating flesh is not something I ever wanted to do. Then it "clicked" on my drive home after SUNrise service. Communion is too close for comfort of what the CABAL literally does! Christians will say it's symbolism of Christ's sacrifice; trying to justify it as just symbolism. Think how happy that makes the Devil. And they do it in "worship". Didn't god say to have No Idols?
I'm reminded of a Q quote. Symbolism will be their downfall.
Totally agree!
We can’t make choices for others, I pray your eyes are opened to the fact that each one of us has to individually choose Christ.
No we can’t, but some people get tired of hearing we will not make it to heaven because we didn’t do this or that. Luckily my eyes have been opened after living most of my life in fear that I would piss off God and if I didnt ask for forgiveness right before I died I’d be tormented, living like that got exhausting. You don’t know anything special to make the claim you made yet you did it so matter factly. Almost all religions point to the same thing, you can feel free to believe whatever you want but there’s a reason that so many religions have flood stories (and very similar other stories) in them and many were written down thousands of years before any books were written that we now call the Bible.
I stated no condemnation, merely the fact that there is only one way to the Father and that is through Christ.
“And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.” I John 5:11-13 NKJV
I’ve read the Bible, it doesn’t take away the fact it was likely changed at some point. My belief that God is a loving God more than he is a jealous hateful God will probably suit me fine. There’s so many contradictions and parables in the Bible that it’s hard to imagine Man didn’t write some of it or add to it for their own agenda. Also, you don’t know if that actually is a fact or not, you’re stating that everything the Bible says and or the way the church interpreted what it says is a fact. The part where you told her if her daughter doesn’t know Christ, she’s doomed, like you are some noble know it all, that’s where the issue lies, and that’s what people are sick of hearing. Also, why would Christ be the only way to the father? I’m pretty sure he can hear us calling out his name too. And what about the people in 3rd world nations or remote tribes that have never heard of Christianity? It seems odd and cruel that they should suffer. There’s many things that just don’t add up coming from a truly loving God which I believe he is.
The church is all about control and believers use "faith" as a weapon against their neighbors. I finally told my Bro I didn't want to talk to him anymore if he keeps shoving down my throat, "Do YOU know where you're going?" He uses the bible to justify his language towards me. Many believers do this.
Yep, it’s very annoying. Like do you really think I have to be in church on sundays to go to heaven? Like God actually would even care about that lmao
Can you clarify please?
I find it hard to believe you read the entire Bible and still talk like this. Have you read the entire Bible? Have you been to study groups that explain it?
Nothing to clarify lmao, I grew up in church and I’ve read the Bible atleast twice. The more I read it the less it makes sense that an all knowing loving God would be the person to send someone to hell simply for living a life that HE gave us. Cold blooded murderers and Satan worshippers? Sure, but normal everyday people that don’t worship him will all of their heart? Doubtful. Why would I want to go to a study group to explain anything? Have you looked into ancient txt that say a lot of the same things our bibles say but was written long before the books of our Bible?
Also, I’m just speaking about normal ole Baptist church that I grew up in, Catholicism is a whole different nightmare lmao
You’re correct, without Christ one is doomed.
Wow! That's not for you to judge or sling an arrow at your neighbor on here Fren. This is one reason why people stay away from "Christians".
Why would one be doomed without Christ when there is also a God? Doesn’t seem to make sense. So people that have never heard of of Christianity are doomed? Odd considering Jesus was not even a Christian… I know what Christianity is, but it still stands to reason that everyone that did not follow him were doomed? Weird
Likely? I laughed when I read that. If you read the history of the Bible you'll know that it was cobbled together from several different manuscripts - some detailing the horrors of the "Elohim" rulers of the time. Those manuscripts were translated and translated again (mistranslated in many cases). Also word meanings changed over centuries. And the whole lot was rewritten, edited and redacted by various committees with political agendas. And, finally, many people need a priest or other "expert" to interpret it.
That said, The Bible has a lot of useful stuff and if you choose to live your life according to the sensible parts ("love thy neighbor," etc.) then you'll do fine. But if you believe that God and/or Jesus personally wrote The Bible, then I can only sympathize.
Yeah, I was being nice in that regard, of course it changed. Over all like you say, the teachings are still very valuable and very important in my opinion.
I mean seriously, pretty much most of history seems to be a lie, we were lied to about almost everything yet they left the many books of the Bible that were written many years apart alone? Doubtful…
interesting. For truthers this is a hard thing. For people that can-not stop digging for information it is a hard thing. We are all individuals under God. Individually we are going to be Judged. The more one knows the more one has to either harden their heart or accept. We are individually able to volunteer or not. I view it as levels. Like in networking if you are a CCIE you will be paid more and also have more responsibility than one who is a CCNA or CCNP.
Deuteronomy 4:24 and James 4:16-17
24 For the Lord thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.
16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil.
17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Yeah no, I totally believe in God, I’ve seen miracles in my own life, I don’t believe the dogma around it any more though, I don’t believe if one worships the wrong god or is part of the wrong dominion that they are going to hell. Also, we all sin apparently so not doing good is as much of a sin as getting tattoos, or are sins weighed differently?
we are -individuals- it is all up to us as an individual. For instance I am a human. I am not diabetic, but if I eat too much sugar I physically feel ill. So sugar to me is a sin. To another sugar is not a sin... In the Spiritual sense if one is of Jesus, a Christian, which essentially means Christ-Like.. those people would tend to start becoming more like Christ. This is a very personal Journey for each person and it is a personal choice to volunteer.
Nothing I can do to force another to think like me and vice-versa.
The question(s) to you might be something like,
why would a person who is LGBTQ want to go to Heaven? Everything they stand for is to smite people who do not do as they do.
How would there be peace in Heaven if those who are in Heaven have different opinions about what a woman is? That would not be Heaven.
Jesus is a Divider, not a Uniter when it comes to good vs evil. No one can do what Jesus did in the flesh. Yes we are all human and we all define good and evil, light and darkness--differently, but Jesus defines things His way, not our way.
The foundational concepts of the USA Constitution are very much the same. Man is destroying the USA Constitution.
The -MEEK- inherit the Earth for a reason. It is a Law of God. Not a balance. It is a division. The Meek are not weak. They are very compassionate and very, very patient. Once the patience finally runs out. The wrath is quick and decisive to get back to peace.
Don’t get me wrong, I very much believe in God, I pray every morning, every night and pretty much constantly during the day. I love my relationship with him, I just do not believe the dogma that surrounds Christianity any more. The Catholic Church was very controlling and had a lot of power back when certain books were decided on as far as what would make it in our Bible. What about the text that explains Jesus was literally a mystic? He basically said I did not come to save you, I showed you how to save yourself and that Christ is within every one of us, it sounds like more of what I’m starting to believe than the old accepted text. Why were books like that left out? We are left with a perfect control scheme. It really is genius actually.
Your definition of God could what others perceive as the Devil. In fact what you write falls in that line. It is only you that knows why and who you do what you do and say. Doesn't do anything to me. I find it entertaining and much needed for people to start waking up. Nothing the evil side can do now to stop what is starting to grow. They destroyed themselves. There will always be victims and perpetrators. Now there will be Knights of Virtue to slay the perpetrators who wear the gowns and crowns that say "Victim" :) it will be a wonderful next couple of decades.
How is what I’m saying in line with the devil? Lmao. Jesus literally said the kingdom of god is within us… all I said is that books seem to have been left out, nothing devilish about that. To think that man and government corrupt everything other than religion seems a bit naive, but you do you 😀
I’ll check it out, and you are correct and that’s what I was kinda getting to, the whole not marking thy skin in Leviticus. The mental gymnastics some people have gone through to tell me I’m going to hell because I have a few tattoos is hilarious. It’s almost as if they skipped over the whole not shaving thing that can be found in that same book, they have no idea that was written for the Israelites at the time.
Good point! And I’m sorry to hear that :/ I’m definitely glad that you got through it!
Also I’m not telling anyone not to believe in God, the world seems to be a better place when people do because they have fear of judgement, all I was saying is the whole “your going to hell if you don’t know Jesus” stuff gets old. We can know and love him differently than you do and that should be fine.
that is called an opinion and that is what you believe. Fear of judgement... why fear something that is out ones control? Nothing I can do to stop the inevitable. Fear can mean respect. It has other definitions. I fear the Lord AKA I respect the Lord. We as humans are very selfish and self-righteous. Nothing I can do for that either.
it is an individual who makes their own individual minds. Like in Bowling for instance. Johnie over there bowls and always gets the ball in the gutter--that should be fine. Johnie will still be a pro bowler.
in Johnie's mind he can be a pro bowler for sure, but in reality he is not at the Level. If Johnie starts telling others how good his is at bowling, is that a lie?
Levels--what level do you want to get to? that is the question. I pray to be weak, because the depth of this stuff is very, very terrifying. :)
Exactly, what you have is also an opinion
yes. that is the great thing about having one. When most peoples opinions are line with good things then things like locking the house door, car doors, and such will disappear. Yet in the Western World the foundation is solid but they have put so much sand on top of the foundation it confuses the weak. The weak think their opinions are superior, when they are built on sand that was trucked in my anti-Christ ideologies. Yes it is that simple. The world will always hate the Opinion of Jesus and His people.
I mean for hundreds of years the Catholic Church was free to do whatever it wanted to heretics, they didn’t hate it then 😅 no one said my opinions are superior, in fact I commented because someone else thought there’s was. I could care less if anyone listens to my opinion lmao.
Prayers sent Fren. 😟
My wife is a nurse and a few years ago I asked her "Why don't we treat humans for parasites". She stopped in her tracks and didn't have an immediate answer. She reluctantly said "Probably because we have safer food supplies and better sanitation".
Maybe ask your Daughter the same question. Or ask her why pregnant women are told to NOT handle a cat litter box (Toxoplasma Gondii).
I'm 99.5% certain "auto immune" diseases are just a modern made up term to cover up the symptoms of parasites in your body. We've already seen evidence that they put parasites in some batches of shots along with other evil substances.
Don't read this document if you've recently eaten. It's VERY informative, but also VERY gross.
Parasite Pill 2.0
God Bless. 🙏
That's very difficult. Sorry you're dealing with this. I'll join others here offering prayers for you and for your daughter, and her family.
I encourage you to pray fervently like David: intensely, humbly. Consider fasting for a time while you make your petition. And then give it to God. And then rest, acknowledging that God's ways are not our ways, and He has reasons for everything even though they are beyond our understanding.
I'll pray that she is given a choice, and that she chooses to live. Encourage her to ask God for a choice, to see her babies grow and thrive in the coming new, more joyous world.
If she's open to any protocol, there are easier ones than all the supplements from The Wellness Co. (Nicotine patches are way easier and cheaper than supplements, and worked better for me.) But no protocol will work for someone who won't try, as you already know. Keep the offer open to help, and encourage her to ask God for more time, even if it's only for the sake of those who love your daughter and don't want to see her go.
Prayers for sure. I am so sorry you’re going through this. Natiokinesse has helped my son with clots ( theoretically non vaxed but we suspect he was vaxed prior to a procedure but can’t prove it) and there is great deal more to detox that can help. I will post when I get time. That is to improve her quality of time which we pray will be long. There is another explanation fren. The lord may be calling her to grow close not necessarily home. Even if as you say this is prophetic dream he showed her this for a reason. Perhaps to inspire her so she has a more meaningful life. Pray on it fren and I will be praying for discernment.
I want to write and let you know u/LoneJury that I, too have a daughter who is vaxxed and is suffering from an autoimmune issue.
She is always very tired and when I saw her yesterday, she just looked older and so pale. She has always been full of energy, but many around her are saying it's her demanding job that is causing all this.
I actually did get her the detox protocol from the Wellness Company and she did take it, but I think she needs to do another one.
She and her husband are experiencing infertility issues, that I feel are a result of her being vaxxed.
I'll pray for your daughter and for your family that she may live a long life to be there to raise her children. I hope you can try and convince her (maybe after the baby is delivered) to go ahead with a detox regimen.
Stay strong, rely on your faith during this difficult time. Wishing you and your family all the best.
Look In to DMSO, it’s supposedly awesome for a lot of things including auto immune issues.
Thank you, I will look into it.
I reached out here myself almost 3 years ago for prayers for my daughter and her unborn baby. She was having issues with her pregnancy and had taken the first covid shot beforehand. People here offered their prayers and ultimately my daughter had a healthy baby girl (who will be 3 soon). Thanks again for that!
Just know that a bunch of people here (including me) will follow through for you with many prayers.
You aren't alone.
By the way - thank you mods for continuing to allow these posts, and for helping to get more eyes on them. It helps a lot for people in need.
Lead her to Jesus. Find Him first, if you don’t know Him already, then introduce her to Him. He will lead and comfort you both through this tribulation.
Numbers 6:24 - The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: Numbers 6:25 - The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: Numbers 6:26 - The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
My dear long departed dad once told me the old saying > "there's none so helpless as them that won't help themselves"
I never thought about much until COVID, when I tried to convince my mum and siblings to avoid the shot.
And during that time my dad's words came back to me. Try as I might, I was faced by the horrifying understanding, that my family chose to trust the words of evil strangers over the deep instinct of a brother's/son's need to protect those he loved.
I was crushed and full of guilt at first, I thought that I had failed somehow by not being able to convince them of the obvious danger. Then came the fear, as I dreaded the bad news. Currently, I am resigned because I can see the signs of extreme closed mindedness and blank denial that seems to me to be the Clot-shot Mark of the Beast effect. Currently, my principal strategy is "hope". I desperately hope that everyone I care about got given the placebo saline shots. I hope that the logical, analytical experts I assessed and found plausible enough to listen to, I hope they are all wrong.
There's none so helpless, than them that won't help themselves.
What can be done to help a daughter who is unable to even entertain the help offered by a parent's genuine and loving concern?
I don't think there is anything more that you can do than what is being done currently by you already. Love your daughter, blindly, unconditionally with everything you have and stand ready to help should an opportunity or the need arise.
Your daughter has one amazing advantage in life though, she has you by her side.
Sending positive thoughts, prayers and vibes your way.
She needs to be taking Bifidobacterium Longum The vax completely destroys this very important bacteria, it is the first building block of immunity. Look into Dr. Sabine Hazan, her testimony to the cov 19 response panel as well as multiple interviews on her research. Babe needs it as well, babies born to v moms have little to none, and they should be flourishing. Praying she does something to improve health. Severe anemia has happened with me just from my mother shedding on me. It’s been a long battle but God finally put in my thoughts how copper might be playing a role. Sure enough I’ve found research that copper is completely depleted in both v and non v. Anyway, please look into the info provided,
I recommend Fenbendazole and Nattokinase, daily. Prayers for your daughter, friend.
My wife is "fully vaxxed" plus flu and shingles. I do have concerns but she has to do her own thing. She is extremely intelligent. She has a medical background so I can't teach her anything. At present she seems fine.
Your daughter sounds similar except that she hasn't been so lucky. I would think it extremely unlikely that you can persuade her to take any drug on your recommendation. It would have to come on a doctor's prescription. But don't stop trying. Maybe you could persuade her to get a blood test. Start with a D-Dimer. Include vitamin D measurement, which is extremely important for the immune system.
I personally find HCQ is useful for some autoimmune disorders. Ivermectin and nattokinase are supposed to be good for spike protein damage - Iver especially for the nervous system.
Peter McCullough Protocol: Base Spike Detoxification
Look it up...super credible...leading the fight against vaccine. He has a remedy you can buy for getting rid of the spike proteins
🙏🙏🙏 Did you know prayers are literally weapons against your enemies? Pray against the vaxx. In Jesus name. Please!
There IS something you can do. And it is something ALL OF US HERE can do to help you and your daughter. Pray. I will put your daughter in my daily prayers from now on. God bless you and give you peace.
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14: 6 ESV
She's not going to heaven friend. She is hell bound. Her vax status is of ZERO consequence at this point. Her soul is all that matters.
This is the work of the Holy Spirit alone.
Repentance, surrender, obedience to Jesus. Let Him have it. For yourself as well. You have to ask Him. You have to give it to Him.
The struggle down here is about eternity.
"She's not going to heaven friend." What a terrible thing to say. YOU DON'T KNOW OR DECIDE. Only God knows. How insensitive.
I'm so sorry, Lone Jury. Be sure that your daughter is getting the best nutrition and hydration and a lot of rest. There is so much information coming out now about the toxicity of the shots, maybe your daughter will realize that detoxing might be a good idea. I've had what I believe is a spike protein infection in my throat since April. I wasn't vaxxed, but was shed upon. I've been trying NAC and Bromelain once a day and Natto twice a day for a few weeks but it isn't gone yet. It may take some persistence.
Yes, I've worried about some of my vaxxed relatives. But they were believers, so at least there's the comfort of knowing we'll be together in heaven regardless of when we die. I've had to come to grips with the fact that I have no control over other people's choices, no matter how much I love them. I guess we have to focus on loving them while they're here on earth with us. Blessings, fren.
I've read that 70% of the US is vaxxed. There are A LOT LOT LOT of people that will need to answer for these crimes.
I pray that she finds Jesus.
But slowly introduce her to multivitamins and exercise maybe?
Zinc, fish oil, magnesium, calcium, vitamin C and D.
Encourage outdoor activity and sun.