So I started noticing over the past week or two a sudden increase of posts about Erika Kirk. In my experience this kind of sudden influx of a topic is usually a result of some concerted narrative pushing, so I was curious where this is coming from and more importantly why now.
In finding the answer, I have engaged with many of you Candace-bros, who have been most vocal about this, as always to understand all the facts.
I will first share a small tip in research that has helped me greatly debating on reddit and twitter, but I was able to apply here as well. If you want to learn all about the view point you are debating - say "Global warming" or "Vaccines are safe" you don't have to read every information thats there about it before you can debate. them. That would be a waste of time. Instead, you can outsource the task to your opponents. Challenge them clarify exactly what their strongest position is and to bring you the best evidence for what they are claiming. They will do the research, since they have the motive to you prove you wrong, and you now have something concrete you can work with.
I used the same technique here as well. I wanted to know if I was missing anything of what Candace has been putting out regarding Erika Kirk. And thanks for everyone who played with me, because I got the answer I was looking for.
Sum total of what Candace has been putting forth:
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All the apparent strangeness surrounding the assassination
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That the assassination was part of a conspiracy and not a lone shooter
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That FBI has not been sharing all the information, and instead covering up the assassination
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That Erika has been acting suspiciously - most importantly Not demanding answers from the government and instead attacking those who are demanding answers.
I had no disagreement with the first 3 points - there is definitely more to the assassination, and FBI is definitely not releasing everything they have (whatever the reason may be) just like in the case of "Epstein Files".
As for Erika acting "suspicious", its subjective and not really something I can use to make objective analysis - esp. when you see her on the show with Charlie and the way she acts is very similar to now - like she is an actress. But thats not the point.
Lets for a second assume that her actions are suspicious so that way, I have as much in common with the Candace-bros and we can focus only on the real difference of opinion:
Erika Kirk does not demand that FBI/Government release all the information they have
According to Candace, and all the Candace-bros that engaged with me, this is an absolute sin. Her not "demanding answers" is the biggest problem.
According to this view: Its not enough for us Anons to ask questions. *We have to force everyone else involved to ask the same questions. *
Stay with me - I am now getting to the actual point, it very much concerns this claim.
So many of the comments I received echoed the same thing: "She must ask questions, but she is not"
It is very clear at this point that there is enormous pressure on her to "ask questions" about Charlie Kirk's assassination. No one can deny this - whether you are a Candace-bro or not and whether you agree that she has to ask questions or not - one thing we can all agree is that there is a lot of pressure on Erika to ask questions
What is the purpose of a system? The purpose of a system is what it does. POSIWID
What is the purpose of this whole psyop? To put enormous pressure on Erika to "ask questions".
But why?
So lets do a thought experiment. Assume you are Erika and you decide that you want answers about the assassination of your husband and you publicly demand that FBI/Government provide those answers.
What will be the result of this?
It will damage Trump's DOJ instantly more than anything else. Every MSM and altstream media will run with the headlines
Grieving widow of MAGA's star implies that Trump DOJ is behind his assassination cover up
They will achieve what none of the "Release Epstein Files" or any of the smear jobs about Kash or Pam Bondi failed to do.
Resignation / Firing of people in DOJ who are currently doing exactly what Trump wants them doing.
What is the biggest thing Trump DOJ did recently?
US seizes Iranian oil tanker in ‘illicit shipping network’ off Venezuela coast
Aka, Cutting off one of the last remaining bloodline to the British Banksters - defunding the Narco terrorists.
Yes, this is all about the fight against the British Banksters who are attacking Trump on all fronts and cutting the legs under the Trump DOJ would be a huge win for them.
And that is the goal of this psyop.
And, finally, to wrap this all up neatly, (shout out to all those who reminded me that we have to follow the spouses) who is Candace's husband ?
Updoogle for coining the expression "Candace-bros". This alone worth the price of admission.
I think you may well have cracked it. Very good read, and makes lots of sense to me. Right after I just posted about questioning if any of this 'makes sense'.
Wow, just saw this: https://greatawakening.win/p/1ARdHtgyvs/take-a-step-back-does-this-make-/
This Always Happens! I guess its true that genius think alike ;)
So do frogs, apparently...
Interesting. But I have a different idea. I think the opp forces everyone to demand answers but in the end, the trail leads to Israel and other foreign ops. That is what and why they haven't released it all.
The same players will then be tied back to past ops like 9/11 etc. I think this whole thing leads to "Saving Israel for last"!
Absolutely. But why are we saving Israel for last? I thought I knew the answer but I have a different thought. When the last puppet falls the puppet master comes into view.
And MOSSAD just so happens to be one of, if not The biggest puppet masters;
Therefore they have the most strings that must be forcibly cut by the White Hats
Who created Mossad? Who created all the intel agencies with the same blue print? Who was the first modern intel agency and why was it created?
Mossad is not a puppet master. It used to be a loyal puppet, but looks like they lost control.
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Q4241: "Do you attack the KING in the beginning or middle-to-end?
Queen protects King?"
The missing car keys are always in "the last" place you look. Because once found, you don't look anymore. Mission accomplished. 'The End.'
Likewise, the "King" is always "saved for last" because then the game is over.
There's only two things Q said (and/or implied) are being "saved for last."
(Enemy) King = who?
How can two separate entities both be 'the last thing'?
In a military operation do you announce what your final objective is for the enemy to know?
The fact that the entity has been named implies it is not the King. It is the veil covering the king.
One entity is what you want the enemy to think is your last objective.
The other entity is your real last objective.
My mind immediately goes to some 12 foot tall Baphomet type figure.
Has anyone figured out why there's a GIANT chair/throne at the Vatican?
The Chair of Saint Peter
Maybe she doesn't ask questions because they already gave her the answers and told her not to.say anything.
Quite possible.
Her husband is a very interesting.... No coincidences
Yes, George Farmer, a member of the British aristocracy. Either he, or his father is a Baron, a hereditary title generally passed down from many generations. His father is/was a member of Parliament, House of Lords. Very interesting.
The president’s son is a Barron 😏
I think he is a Baron and his father was a Lord.
Whirlwind romance, getting engaged just 17-18 days later (via FaceTime on December 29, 2018) and marrying on August 31, 2019. My guess? She's "willingly" his beard and he's her handler. There's no way a straight man could date, let alone, marry a person like Candace.
He left TPUK to become more involved in what Candace had going on. I feel like there may be more to unpack there...
Her husband is killed. A foreign plane has been shadowing her. And she attacks the person who is asking questions. That seems very strange to me. The fact that this plane is not even mentioned by her or her people makes me think she knew it was there the whole time. Think of the implications.
Since none of us are knowledgeable about the entirety of this. Questions are the way. Anyone who suggests questions are not the way is suspect.
... and this whole thing begs questioning.
So ask yourself why someone who supposedly just lost their husband does not ask the questions you expect her to ask ?
One answer- because she is involved in the assassination.
But is that the only possible answer? Do you think it’s worth your while you exhaust all possibilities and analyze each one objectively to get an idea what the best fitting scenario is?
For me, that’s the only way to analyze unknowns.
Utah is running this investigation, NOT the FBI, so how could the FBI release info that isn’t within their purview?
Part of my job involves investigating deaths, and I am required to reach out to next of kin to inform them of the ongoing investigation. I find it suspect a widow would not want a complete investigation into their husband's death, but hey, there could be more at play like your post suggests. Still, there is a lot of oddities with the kirk assassination that begs scrutiny as the other user suggests.
did she say she does not want a full investigation?
Not questions I expect. The complete lack of curiosity. It has been my experience that those who lose loved ones want to know everything. Even the most trivial of info.
... but not this widow.
... and that is weird.
How do you know she has a complete lack of curioisty? How can you be sure that she hasn't already been provided info not yet ready for public consumption?
2 eyes.
2 ears.
and a brain.
So the answer is you dont.
Truly a dazzling intellect. But boring.
Nice clear thinking.
We need to focus, and fight the real enemy.
excellent process & analysis. When there are evil people & forces acting against us, Pres. Trump & DoJ can’t just be releasing everything. There’s careful planning and coordination that has to be going on when going against the London / Israel powers.
Exactly. And, for the conspiracy analysts out there, one has to consider that its very possible, if not plausible, that the Kirk Assassination was executed precisely to place the Trump administration and team in a position of jeopardy. If that's the case, then some people <ahem> would be playing directly into their hands, or worse.
I appreciate your added consideration as strategy-wise, that move makes sense with that kind of purpose, definitely makes sense
I don't think it undermines President Trump or MAGA for Erika or Candace to ask questions. The Deep State is still clearly at war with us (see Lara Logan's speech), and our closest ally is likely behind it.
The whole thing is fishy. Reasonable frogs can ask questions while simultaneously fully supporting President Trump and MAGA.
In fact I think it is our patriotic duty to ask questions in service of seeking the truth.
But that's not all it is. When Candace tells her audience "I have lost faith in Trump", does this not undermine President Trump? Or when she throws her weight behind Ron Destantis" Or says it was all Trump' s fault that the midterm 2022 elections did not go the 'Conservatives' way?
There is a great difference between asking questions on one hand, and expressing distrust, lack of confidence, and accusation toward the President and his administration on the other.
As I wrote elsewhere, I agree that the whole thing is fishy. But In my case, I'm not talking only about the Kirk Assasination, but also about the 'inflooncer wars', the supposedly innocent activities of Owens and others not to mention the reaction of many to them. It's ALL fishy.
And that is the point. Ask questions, sure, but look out for who is manipulating who in the midst of all this chaos.
Could it also be that Candace, Tucker, Fuentes etc. are bringing up things in the public sphere to bring awareness to the Trump admin and the public simultaneously about dirty players/operations in their mist? I believe this is what is happening. These influencers and the Trump admin have to keep plausible deniability. They have created a plan that cast a wide net for Truth telling. With such a wide web, it would be hard for the deep state to cover all of it, even though they are the masters at big webs of lies.
The British crown was backstabbed by Israel long ago when they achieved their very own nukes. Since then, the same evil has been taking England down, just like they are doing here. Could it be that factions of the British know that Israel has too much power and they want to try to save their country as well? This fits nicely with the FACT that the British joined with Trump in the first admin (que the videos of the queen with Trump and all the other key leaders around the globe. i.e. Saudi, Koreas, China, Russia joining forces with Trump to save the world).
The whole Candace/influencers things is a PsyOp, I just don't think it's in the way that the OP has suggested. Candace has ALWAYS been used to keep the Trump admin honest in the public sphere. Same with Charlie. The same with Tucker and Fuentes. It helps the larger public trust the movement more and brings credibility to it as well because we don't all have mocking bird fakeness like the left. When push comes to shove, all of them support Trump and his efforts - hence why they all voted for Trump multiple times.
They killed Charlie, publicly. We have to ask questions. Even hard questions that may make Kash, Bondi, Erika etc. look bad. If they are our people, they will course correct. If they don't, they are the dirty players in our mist that we (Trump included) NEED to be warned about.
wait... So you think they guy who has infinitely more intel than any of them, who has been targeted by the most powerful & evil cliques on the planet for 10 years, who knows the reality of the deep state through and through by direct experience needs Owens, Tucker and Fuentes to tell him what is going on?
I do not see it like that. I think it would be more accurate to say that Candace has always been used to sow doubt, distrust, and to undermine Donald Trump. Consistently. Over the past 4+ years.
I think many persons like yourself completely focus on the <ahem> questioning that people like Owens is <ahem> doing and completely ignore the actual rhetorical impact of their message: Trump is dumb, Trump doesn't know what he is doing, Trump's administration is a failure (because x, y, z reasons).
Fuentes is very much on the public record as saying do NOT vote for Trump, and that he himself did not vote for Trump. Owens threw all of her weight behinds De Santis and publicly blamed Trump for the lack of success in the 2022 midterms. "He's the problem, and we have to go with new blood" - I'm paraphrasing, but that was her position.
I think you may have conjured up some inaccurate conclusions here because of your bias. These influencers are NOT helping Trump. They are hurting him, and that is their purpose, imo.
"wait... So you think they guy who has infinitely more intel than any of them, who has been targeted by the most powerful & evil cliques on the planet for 10 years, who knows the reality of the deep state through and through by direct experience needs Owens, Tucker and Fuentes to tell him what is going on?"
---- No, it's not that he 'needs' them. It's the system the white hats set up.
"I do not see it like that. I think it would be more accurate to say that Candace has always been used to sow doubt, distrust, and to undermine Donald Trump. Consistently. Over the past 4+ years.
I think many persons like yourself completely focus on the <ahem> questioning that people like Owens is <ahem> doing and completely ignore the actual rhetorical impact of their message: Trump is dumb, Trump doesn't know what he is doing, Trump's administration is a failure (because x, y, z reasons)."
--- Do you hear yourself. Our movement is bigger than Trump. With that said, Candace factually voted for Trump in 2024. She also helped (like Charlie) bring it home for us in 2024.
"Fuentes is very much on the public record as saying do NOT vote for Trump, and that he himself did not vote for Trump. Owens threw all of her weight behinds De Santis and publicly blamed Trump for the lack of success in the 2022 midterms. "He's the problem, and we have to go with new blood" - I'm paraphrasing, but that was her position.
I think you may have conjured up some inaccurate conclusions here because of your bias. These influencers are NOT helping Trump. They are hurting him, and that is their purpose, imo."
--- Fuentes DID vote Trump in the past. He actively critiques the Trump admin to keep them honest. He just said on Piers Morgan DAYS ago that Trump is a personal hero of his. You need to learn how to read between the lines. Candace also factually voted Trump in 2024.
I think you may have conjured up some inaccurate conclusions here because of your bias.
Entirely possible!
I appreciate the response, and the <unverified> corrections. They do not alter my view or opinion of either Owens or Fuentes, but this sort of discussion and debate are vital for advancing our various thought streams and processes. So, updoogle.
I do not see these people as benevolent actors. I see their efforts, rhetoric and impact as an overall negative and I consider their motives to not be something that is helpful to Trump.
But, its an opinion, formulated on the limited information that comes across (has come across) my screen.
I'll continue to hold that opinion as long as the information and my reasoning direct me that way, but I appreciate the contrast from different opinions such as yours. No one has a perfect perspective, and contrast very often helps us to see things clearer.
Ps. For reference, my opinion is based on a variety of different ideas and factors, such as personality, presentation style, impact (polarization), understanding of how controlled opposition works in a psychological war situation, past actions, and what they say (and what they do not say). These do create a sort of bias, which I think is OK. Biases exist. The problems occur when we do not recognize or acknowledge (our) biases, which inherently prevents us from actually being responsible for them.
Not for Candace or anyone else. But if Erika "asks the questions" (assuming she hasn't already been read in) its a whole different game.
Yep, but thats not the point. The point is not about people asking questions but pressuring Erika to ask questions.
And honestly, talking about "asking questions", I think there are plenty of bigger questions we all want to know the answer and we know we have to wait for the right time in disclosure. But, somehow this question is the one that cannot wait, esp. everytime Trump is doing something sensitive.
Erika is either controlled or a player. Who the fuk says "Charlie Kirk would take his phone, shove it in the junk drawer, say Shabbat Shalom!" when 70% of America is blaming Isreal? Regardless if he really said this week to week. This was a kiss ass to the Josh Hammers. She is not as good of an actor as they think she is.
So if 70% people say something its true? I heard my liberal friends say the same thing.
glad to see someone else seeing what I am seeing as far as narrative pushing.... everyone needs to be aware a lot of those posting in here are working for foreign intelligence agencies and just plain publicists. for me this room is a barrameter to what hoax is being pushed on those passively watching the politics. everyone dont take anything said on line as the truth but it is like buble-burst said agood place to figure out what needs to be looked at when susing out motives of those pulling the strings
I am holding out all judgement. Im just so sad Charlie is gone. There is a void.
the trial is being streamed so there should be no real questions with the trial....I knew who Charlie was but never thought about how important he was to MAGA till I heard he was assassinated and it hit me immediately that he sort of a lynch pin holding the different philosophical groups together so that Trump could get elected this election cycle.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees this crap for what it is!
I've been vocal about this for the last couple weeks... how this psyop just keeps turning up like a bad penny every few days...then just in the past few days there seems to be an even bigger push to keep the shit stirred up...
It's not quit the mass formation psychosis of the Covid days, but the psyop appears to be quite effective in what we might describe as "our ranks".
For me, there are psyops staged by both the good guys and the bad guys. The average person has no idea what is real anymore. It's a battle between good and evil.
Things that seem fishy to me:
Staged like Sandy Hook
getting interviewed by a Jew on national TV on prime time
that's the biggest tell
The purpose of all this Erika Kirk stuff is to remove the focus from God & salvation through Christ Jesus that Charlie spoke on, and people were widely sharing videos of, and to get us talking about anything else. We should not be distracted from speaking of Christ & him crucified for our salvation.
"3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage war according to the flesh; 4for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty in God for the tearing down of strongholds, 5throwing down imaginations and every high thing that is exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ; 6and being in readiness to avenge all disobedience, when your obedience will be made full." 2 Corinthians 10:3-6 NHEB
This!!!!!!!
It’s a fair ask to wonder if all mediation through all mediums that isn’t through the Holy Spirit is eventually a psyop that we shouldn’t be participating in.
u/FractalizingIron u/bubble_bursts
The big issue I have there is… how does that path actually look?
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS:
"10Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of his might. 11Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. 12For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world's rulers of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13Therefore, put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand. 14Stand therefore, having the belt of truth buckled around your waist, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15and having fitted your feet with the preparation of the Good News of peace; 16above all, taking up the shield of faith, with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil one. 17And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the spoken word of God;
18with all prayer and requests, praying at all times in the Spirit, and being watchful to this end in all perseverance and requests for all the saints:" Ephesians 6:10-18 NHEB
Yes, and the words are one thing. but I doubt many Christians actually do that, or know specifically what it means to walk it out.
It all comes down to reading God's Word with the faith he gives us. Look at my reply above about the Armor of God. The way to "walk it out" is detailed right there.
Be strong in the Lord, in the STRENGTH OF HIS MIGHT. His might is where strength is found, not ours.
Put on the armor God gave you, not what you cludged together. Why? Because God promises you that armor equips you with strength to stand against the schemes of the devil.
What is that armor? The Belt of Truth. Speak, live, breathe truth in all areas of your life. If you haven't then repent & start now.
Next the Breastplate of Righteousness. We are not righteous, only Jesus is righteous. We are able to put on that breastplate because of what Jesus did for us by dying on the cross for our sins. He forged that breastplate for each of us from his righteousness to fit us perfectly.
Our feet get fitted with the Good News of peace. That's understanding the gospel that Jesus paid for our sins on the cross & redeemed us, making it possible for us to return to God the Father.
We take up the shield of faith that God prepared for us by Drawing us to Jesus, Having Jesus reveal the Father to us, and working faith to believe Jesus is the way to the Father by sending his Spirit (the Helper) to live within us. "44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up in the last day." John 6:44 NHEB "6Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6 NHEB "7Nevertheless I tell you the truth: It is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper won't come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you. 8When he has come, he will convict the world about sin, and about righteousness, and about judgment; 9about sin, because they do not believe in me; 10about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, and you won't see me any more; 11about judgment, because the prince of this world has been judged." John 16:7-11 NHEB
The Helmet of Salvation is faith in Jesus redeeming us on the cross.
The Sword of the Spirit is the spoken Word of God. Read the bible out loud. Read it every day. Read it & pray, asking for wisdom & discernment for what you are reading & how you apply it.
BUT! Do you notice what we do not put on??? Vengeance. Jesus puts that on. Isaiah tells us. "15Yes, truth is lacking; and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey. The LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no justice.
16He saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his own arm brought salvation to him; and his righteousness, it upheld him.
17He put on righteousness as a breastplate, and a helmet of salvation on his head; and he put on garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a mantle.
18According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, wrath to his adversaries, recompense to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompense." Isaiah 59:15-18 NHEB
We are strong in what God has already done for us. He is strong to defend & to save. It is his battle & we need to study his Word, seek his face, listen for his voice, have no other God's before him, and love our neighbor as ourselves by spreading the Good News that God loves us, and he tells us this:
"16For this is how God loved the world: he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have life without end. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18The one who believes in him is not judged, but the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19And this is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their works were evil. 20For everyone who does evil hates the light, and does not come to the light, so that his works will not be exposed. 21But the one who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God." John 3:16-21 NHEB
This ALL asssumes that Erika Kirk has not been GIVEN information, and just told to keep quiet about it. The Kirks were close with the CURRENT VICE PRESIDENT. I'd be far more willing to bet she knows much more than Candace Owens.
Someone made a very good point that said something like “If Jackie Kennedy went around telling people to stop looking into the death or JFK that would look suspicious too”
And I agree. Erika has the Kamala Harris problem where every tike she talks she becomes more and more unlikeable.
Charlie Kirk was TPUSA. Students went to debate him. I can’t even tell you the names of the other people. They arent debating like Charlie did. They aren’t speaking about the issue the way Charlie is. College republicans built their own chapters to continue Charlies legacy. What has the current management of TPUSA done?
Whatever happene to the alleged audit CK was doing in regards to misappropriated funds?
Whatever happened to the $150,000,000 payment from Israel?
Erika said Charlie would say “Shabbot Shalom” when he came home? I’ve never heard him say such a thing.
Erika plays the grieving widow too poorly in my eyes.
Is there concrete evidence that she was involved or complicit in his murder? No. But her telling people to stop digging into what really happened doesn’t vine with me.
And Candace simply opened the door. Personally I felt weird about her when she whispered “that man” about the shooter before she forgave him. It came off at overactive and since then I had a weird vibe from her.
As far as I know, Jackie Kennedy never openly questioned the assassination story. She never "asked questions" and she never got this kind of hate from Kennedy's supproters for not asking questions.
I'd like to recommend taking a look at this video. I'd be curious as to your thoughts.
I watched it yesterday. I have seen this guys stuff a few times. I think he is OK, but I'm not what you would call a fan or anything.
However, he DOES bring some interesting arguments to his opinion. One, serious expertise in reading body language, two, expertise in the field of public speaking, and three, critical thinking and reasoning.
Also, he is clear to make the distinction between his opinion and actual facts, which is always an important, healthy practice for critical thinking.
I found his argument rather convincing. You may not (which is fine) but either way, I'd be interested in your thoughts if you listen to this. (25 mins)
"My stance of Candace Owens"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFqdLX6iXQs
Someone asked me a couple of weeks ago about my perspective of EK. (We were discussing the life insurance policy and the LLC issue.) TBH, the weird vibe you got, I think, is more prevalent than most people are willing to admit - at least when it happened. In part, it would have been inappropriate to say anything because emotions were high - there are just some things you don't say at a funeral, you know? But there was a lot of adoration for her bravery and intentional or not, it served to shut down questions for a time. Maybe that was the point? I don't know.
I knew nothing about her prior and knew little of him other than a couple of podcasts I had seen him on. But my initial vibe at the young man/forgiveness bit was "oh girl, you are lying - call me in six months me when this all settles in." And what I mean by that is that is she was lying to herself. She had a lot of anger in her eyes. You talk to widows and six months is when it becomes real. You are going to be pissed at that young man, at TPUSA, at Charlie. And that will all be NORMAL. So why the need to say it so immediately?
But this isn't a normal death either. Where are his parents in all of this?
The obvious solution would have been for Erika to simply go off quietly, be with her children and family, and grieve. Not a single person on either side of the equation would have questioned this. It's the most natural thing to do.
And, yet, she's making the rounds in the news. What is the point of this? It seems to me that this is what's getting in the way of what Trump is currently doing with Iran and Venezuela. It's a distraction.
100% agree. Her bullshit girl boss media tour is revolting. Having someone video her draped over a casket for her social media blitz is revolting. Pushing the book now, the shabot shalom bullshit, denying CK said he was threatened, denying CK's thoughts about the donor class, the fake tear wiping (with no real tears), all of it is revolting. She doesn't have to demand answers in public. But she doesn't have to look like she's leaving her kids alone with someone else while they're grieving because she's only concerned with being out in public as much as possible. For all the bullshit "everyone grieves differently," her grieving display is so far off the mark from anyone I've ever seen (and how I've handled it myself). I don't know what her thoughts are, her motivations, concerns, or whatever. But I don't need to go that far to know when my gut tells me she's full of shit.
If she did not take this course, where would TPUSA be in a year? All of the work that Charlie invested in building that movement (?), group (?).
I would bet that if she simply walked away, walked out of the public light, then TPUSA would be dead or irrelevant within 12 months.
Charlie WAS TPUSA, really. All things being considered, and assuming she is not some sleeper, evil, agent, then his murder put her in an extremely tough spot. She's not the public speaker he was, she's not as eloquent, charismatic or skilled in communication. She's stiff, often rigid. But she's under tremendous pressure IF she wants to keep Charlie's work, legacy and vision alive. Or she could just abandon it.
I didn't mean to imply that she'd disappear forever, merely that she'd take some time off to mourn privately and be there for her children during this difficult time, then come back stronger.
Well, you may well be right.
For me, I don't find it difficult to imagine a scenario and set of circumstances wherein her current course is either the most desirable (for her, given her priorities) or perhaps understood by her to be what is necessary (even if not desirable).
As to the wisdom of it, I cannot really say and cannot begin to judge. Not my place either.
People are strange and complex creatures, but God loves them nonetheless.
Personally speaking, tho, I'm trying not to give the whole chaotic soap opera too much of my attention!~
I am so tired of trying to read between the lines of deception and reality.... It's just so exhausting.
I've decided that I need to just let the psyops play out as they will, paying marginal attention.... Pray that good will triumph and remember that, no matter what, God wins.....and keep moving forward. I will vote when I need to for (hopefully for the right people)...
I just hope I'm still living when all is revealed....
This is perfectly fine. I have been having psyop fatigue as well, because every single thing right now is a psyop, and we are not the target of any of them, unless we want to make ourselves one.
I'll never get behind a post that aims to convince people to stop seeking answers. Erika is suspicious, and it's disgraceful how she has handled her husband's death. If this bitch/actress can take down Trump, then he doesn't have the power to deal with the real enemy.
No one is asking you to stop seeking answers. This post is not about people seeking answers, but about people putting pressure on Erika to ask the questions they think she should be asking.
And you probably didn't read the whole post unemotionally, because I didn't say Erika might take down Trump.
"I never said." "Well actually." More Juicebox nonsense. Get out of here.
Here is what a real Anon would have done: They would have quote me saying "Dont ask questions". they I said that.
A high-effort and very well-thought-out post. Thanks.
I can recommend some additional research along similar lines from Miri-AF
https://miriaf.co.uk/his-story-her-story-and-the-truth/
She also has some good analysis of Candace on same site.
Good read! Interesting perspective of truth tampering.
My theiry since day kne is that Erika's meeting Charlie was a honey-pot maneuver to get her in position and that she was groomed by Isreal.
Arranged relationship on both their parts. Both part of the psy op.
What did you feel about Candace meeting George Farmer and their whirlwind romance ?
It’s israel. Always has been. Charlie Kirk is a reminder that support for israel is an old versus young issue. Everyone under 45 years old on the left and right both hate israel and our foreign aid budget. Charlie Kirk was about to be the face of the new America movement.
Congratulations. The psyop has successfully stopped you from asking who created Israel and why.
Erika was Charlie's Mossad handler. Follow the wives
Follow the spouses. Everyone is being handled.
https://rumble.com/v6z7zna-it-keeps-getting-stranger-erika-kirks-cryptic-post-to-charlie-includes-goat.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
https://rumble.com/v6zjrio-erika-is-in-on-it-the-evidence-piles-up-that-proves-charlie-kirks-assassina.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
https://rumble.com/v6z9crm-smoking-gun-erika-kirk-confesses-that-her-mom-works-for-the-department-of-h.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
https://rumble.com/v6z2yno-you-wont-believe-in-coincidences-anymore-after-you-watch-this-video-on-char.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
A few thoughts here:
-Erika Kirk does seem to have been caught in a direct lie. I say "seem" because this isn't 100% conclusive, but it is very suspicious. The short version is that one of Charlie's best friends reported a text conversation the day before his assassination where Charlie was clearly afraid for his life. Erika stated on Glenn Beck that she has Charlie's phone and that there was no evidence he was worried about his life whatsoever.
Good video breakdown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iZ1gllogg4 (Note, I am not endorsing this channel as I just recently discovered it. However, the content in this video appears to be legitimate.
-I am getting the same disconcerting vibes from the TPUSA/Erika Kirk/Anti-Candace alliance that I got from the Biden Admin/Media during C19 against those who spoke out against the response and the Jab as well as the George W Bush Admin response to those who questioned the invasion of Iraq in response to 9/11.
Admittedly, this is not a data point, only my interpretation. But I'm seeing the same trend where people who question the non-sensical elements of the Charlie Kirk narrative are demonized.
-I am not endorsing Candace Owens. She's out on a very long limb. I see no reason to join her there until we have more information. It's why I have been primarily just observing this situation here on GAW & X.
-As you correctly state BB, this is highly subjective but I'm a student of human behavior and Erika Kirk comes off as highly disingenuous to me. Something is not right there. What that is, I won't pretend to know based on the limited data set. But I'd bet my next couple of paychecks that something is not right there either with her personally, or with the narrative she's pushing.
I think this situation behooves us all to continue very careful discussion that is as fact based and as dispassionate as possible. Again, it's my belief that the totality of the evidence points to something deeply troubling here. But we must avoid jumping to any conclusions.
My point is not about the nonsensical elements of the assassination though, as I stated in my assumptions. Yeah, the whole assassination has a lot of strange things.
What I have seen, atleast out here on GAW is that you get demonised if you try to explain these strange things with any scenario other than "Israel did it and everyone was in on it"
And again, I have already accepted that as part of my assumption as stated in my post. The point about Erika is what the end result will be if Erika starts "asking the questions" regardless of how shady she may or may not be. It puts the kind of pressure on Trump DOJ that no other psyop can - that not even the "Release the Epstein Files" succeeded in doing.
I just ask this question…who benefited from Charlie’s death? Anyone look into what all Trump’s administration got right after. Rhymes with everything. Just a thought.
Nobody is talking about the audit of TPUSA, that got buried pretty quickly. Also, they are now back to the isreal co branding.
Ding ding ding ding!
Bubble_Bursts I think you are really on to something regarding the pysop attack on Erika specifically. after reading your essay this morning, I noticed this story on Gateway Pundit regarding the last person to speak to Charlie was brought to a CBS sponsored Townhall to ask Erika to condemn Trump regarding the "Seditious Six" comments. I don't know about you but what would Erika and TPUSA even care about the seditious six? also who is Hunter Kozak? this guy seems to be popping up now to ask suspicious questions. Its obvious he is coordinating with someone on the left. maybe its the same group that Tyler was apart of. the Left wants that one camera moment were she criticizes Trump and it will be over for team Trump. Good Job seeing thru the Fog of War
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/12/last-person-who-spoke-charlie-kirk-ambushes-erika/
Yall know the FBI isnt heading this investigation, right? Do you guys KNOW that, because for a group of anons it seems sorta lazy to not know that…
Well, I have been torched for suggesting the Owens BS was too much of the focus. Gotta give her credit, she leads people into conspiracies better than most!
You certainly have a different approach to handling shills and morons than I do. After a short message exchange, once I’ve determined they are plainly stupid, I block them and move on.
They have nothing to offer, except stupidity and life is too short.
I find a lot of value to be gleaned from shills and from anyone with opposing views. The trick is not to try and change their minds - that would lead to just frustration. Its better to try and figure out where they are coming from.
This, amongst many other events and operations underway is a "sorting" process. Those with the eyes to see and hear, versus those who lack them. Another way of saying this is, those who accept the stories being told to them by our "experts and authorities", versus those who no longer trust them.
There is the official story, the official conspiracy theory and those who seek answers outside both.
The official story IS the "official conspiracy theory".
Who is that? Never heard of an Erika Trump
Sorry fixed it. Thats a pretty weird typo lol 😂
Simple mistake. Don’t get bent out of shape.
Some of us possess the super power called 'being pedantic'. It's not that we want it, but with that super power, we are obliged to wield it for good.
In this case, (Dandy) just being a brat.
No objection, your honor.
Good points. What if he's not dead?
Even more reason why she doesn’t want people to ask questions
The reason why Erika Kirk is not demanding answers is because she knows the smartest way to let it play out is to let it fucking go to trial.
The psyop is to inject as much disinfo as possible so the killer walks.
Eh... possibly re Erika, but a psyop to allow a guilty man to walk is not one of them, I don't think...
READ ON: From the beginning, Erika appeared unnaturally disaffected by her husband's grisly murder.
On 09/12, only 48 hrs. after his death, she released a previously recorded video of herself giving a 17-minute address, appearing lovely, in full makeup, hair, lashes and nails, loaded with gold and diamond-studded rings, necklaces and bracelets, speaking beautifully with theatrical flourishes that included multiple times of raising her eyes heavenward to whisper "Jesus!' or 'Charlie Baby', or mouthing 'I love you!'
Her gestures to his empty chair, her passionate 'this man's wife' statement and her flashing eyes were cringeworthy. Additionally, her dabbing prettily at the corner of her left eye only was weird as she had no visible tears from either eye. She showed no discernible sign of sadness or anguish, as she smiled brightly and thanked her TPUSA team.
(In contrast, many women in the same situation would be bedridden, sedated and on suicide watch.)
09/21, in her Memorial service presentation, her lack of expected emotion was strange.
WHERE WERE THESE: red eyes, puffy, baggy eyelids, red, swollen and runny nose, the need to blow her nose, a choked up voice and the need to wipe tears rolling down her cheeks...?
THERE WERE NONE.
Many of us felt the pinging of our BS meters. The memorial, only 11 days post, included a 28-minute speech! That (likely 40+page long speech) would have taken most people weeks to think about, write, edit, rewrite and practice. When did she find the time to do this?
And again, her perfect makeup, bright smiling face, invisible tears, skyward gazing, gushing thanks to the 'Amazing Mikey McCoy' and a too-familiar, too-long hug on the President, left many uncomfortable.
09/26, just five days later, she appeared on the Charlie Kirk show with TPUSA team members. She discussed her new takeover as CEO and plans for the future. Erika looked beamingly happy, laughing, fresh-faced, rested and clear-eyed, looking happier and better than ever. It was though wonderful things were happening for her and she was not the least bit sad.
Later at a TPUSA event, she sported skin-tight black leather pants and gave an introduction for her 'dear, dear, friend VP Vance...and his wife' along with a statement of how no one can replace her husband, except maybe VP Vance followed by a too-familiar hug of the man and her hand caressing his hair.
NOW THEN, The weird behavior of Charlie's bodyguards and associates there that day, the hand signals, their facial expressions and smiles while handling his just fallen body, their lack of roof surveillance or drone use, their choice to have it outdoors instead of indoors as recommended, their failure to draw their weapons, when the shot was fired, their lack of fear of other bullets flying and THE AMAZING MIKEY MCCOY'S quick exit with nary a look back to see if his beloved mentor and boss was OK, all added up to 'NOT RIGHT' and 'PLANNED EXECUTION' and 'THEY WERE ALL IN ON IT' to most viewers who were paying attention.
Since then, they and their friend Pastor Rob have said provably false statements and have only spurred conspiracy talk as to why there were so many lies and backpedaling.
SO THEN, Erika could have easily allayed concerns but instead, she stirred the pot with threats and accusations against friends of Charlie's and observant independent investigators who NOTICED the RED FLAGS.
I'm with Candace and the multitude of other independent investigators who are bringing forth interesting observations that should make you contemplate the world and check your home security system and door locks!
We can safely say that this operation is not about the killer. Just like Covid replayed all the pharmaceutical genocide that has been going on for decades, and 2020 replayed all the election fraud going on for 20 years, Kirk's assassination is a replay of all the assassinations from the Cabal playbook.
The real goal is to disclose these playbooks, as part of the Great Awakening.
Good analysis. Spot on. But ...
If Erika is the subject of a psyop pushed by Candace, is that a Candace psyop or an Erika psyop? After all, Erika is still running cover for the Charlie psyop, right?
I think Erika needs more time on her own before she gets her own named psyop. And she probably won't because she's not the best actress.
In the meantime, unless this brouhaha gets a major upgrade and starts spinning a lot faster, this news storm only qualifies as a tropical storm level barely worth naming. And I'll name it Candace, because it's not going to stick to Erika. When the Charlie Kirk story comes around again, that will suck all the energy away from Candace's push and this story will be sidelined again.
Okay, so let me continue my thought process a bit further.
If you watch clips of Charlie and Erika on their show, you can see that Erika has always had the same mannerisms similar to the clips we see after the assassination - what many people consider "creepy" but definitely the aspect that she is like an actress, always in character.
There is absolutely no way Charlie did not know this or did not see this. So whatever Erika is, Charlie definitely knew it or had an idea.
This goes to my overarching observation that almost all influencers out there, whether left, right or center, have some kind of Intel connection and everything is one big psyop.
Is Erika a Mossad asset? Quite possible.
is George Farmer MI6 asset? Quite possible.
Are we watching MI6 vs Mossad play out? Quite possible.
Do they happen to be on the opposite sides of "Stopping Trump from defeating the Globalists and freeing the world" ? As crazy as it may sound, its quite possible.
Erika can easily topple Trump's plan, she has that power at the moment, and she is holding the line. To me thats all that matters right now, in a world where everything is a psyop.
Then you are a smart Anon.
But thats exactly what the Candace psyops are pushing. One conspiracy theory to suppress another.
Neither am I.
Thank you, I'm in good company.
I agree with part of what you've stated, however Charlie may not have known who Erika was, not until right before he was murdered. I personally know a couple of smart, decent young men who were completely taken for a ride by good-looking women who seduced and manipulated them and had them wrapped around their little finger much to everyone's chagrin.
I have read that (allegedly) there was a text exchange between Charlie and his sister recently where he said, "I feel like I am living with a stranger. I don't know who she is anymore!" And, there is the video where she couldn't remember her wedding date from 2021, nor her child's birthday, which Charlie's downcast facial expression shows he felt unhappy about. She then backpedaled, saying something like, "There are so many dates to remember with the kids' birthdays and everything!"
Note: they were married 4 yrs ago and have only 2 children's birthdays to remember!
And then there's the anonymous whistleblower video where the TPUSA employee who spoke with a voice modulator in silhouette said that Erika had started coming in to meetings and trying to take charge and override Charlie and fire certain employees that Charlie had hired when he was out of town, bringing in new ones who the whistleblower said felt like they had to be Mossad spies. She said they walked into meetings and took notes and watched everyone and eavesdropped on everyone and she and her fellow TPUSA workers tried to look up their names, they found they either were using fake names or had completely scrubbed all social media as they had zero to be found.
Then, there's the alleged argument witnessed the night before, caught on outdoor security cameras (allegedly) when a group of people were seen leaving their home after dark. Early on, in one of the first interviews, Erika stated that she had a priest come over to pray with them because Charlie had been receiving threats and they had learned about the 'Etsy witches that were paid by Jezebel magazine to curse Charlie' and she was worried about him. This week though, Erika is now saying Charlie did not text anyone to say he'd been receiving death threats and that 'they prayed as they normally would the night before'. No mention of the priest or the witch's curses.
Ssshh. Why are you bringing up all of these very specific, very relevant points!? You are at great risk of thinking beyond the approved boundaries.
Wow bb! Simply wow! 👏
Agreed upon there. Spot on.
Excellent post on many levels, thanks!