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patriotic_legend [S] 39 points ago +45 / -6

And spare me this was the only way to save the world by pushing vax early. Q didn't discuss this theory, it was created out of thin air as it is the only way to paint Trump in a good light for the vax. The vax is poison, Trump is still pushing the poison. He needs to either push hard against mandates or shut the fuck up.

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glade 21 points ago +29 / -8

Trump taught 80 million Americans to think for themselves and not trust the "elites"

He's playing chess on a level you couldn't fathom, just chill

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patriotic_legend [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

I admit it, this topic gets me going every time. I just doesn't sit well with me. I would love to have this conversation with Trump himself. I just have trouble with the logic of continuing to push the jab.

Of course, he isn't really pushing it, he is saying he would sell people on it if he were POTUS, he isn't really imploring us to get it.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 19 points ago +20 / -1

It's almost like he wants people to think for themselves instead of blindly doing what he tells them.

As long as he keeps talking about my right to not take it... I have zero issues.

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realusadreamer 16 points ago +16 / -0

I asked a friend of mine while we were discussing this if Trump saying we should get vaxed would change her mind? She said NO. I said there you have it. Trump knows the ones part of this movement have the ability to think for themselves.

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patriotic_legend [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

I am sure his statements won't change our minds. I just think there are people on the fence that are not as awake as we are that may be swayed. I could be wrong.

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NeedMoarPillows 4 points ago +5 / -1

I personally know five people who got vaxxed because Trump said the shot was safe.

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Sacralplex 3 points ago +3 / -0

100% Trump has the cure for long term side effects from the jab. I cant see him kill off his base like this.. Were totally fucked if thats true.

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Th4rd_R3ich 4 points ago +4 / -0

The cure is Ivermectin. So many pedes seem to have shrugged off what I consider to be the single most important post I've ever come across on this forum regarding Covid and the Vax.

https://archive.md/CEqBI

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CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Unless the cure involves reanimating the dead (that would be creepy) Trump doesn't have it

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CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same. More than 5 personally. They cannot conceive of a Conspiracy as big as the reality we are facing and they trusted Trump.

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M-I-vet 2 points ago +2 / -0

Really? I can play that game too. I personally know 37 bazzillion people that don't take medical advice from ANY politician, and decide what to do for themselves.

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SomeRandomGuy77 10 points ago +10 / -0

It's simple. The left say the right are brainwashed and will do whatever Trump says.

Trump says take the vaccine. The "brainwashed" right say no, the "Free thinking" left hesitate because they're conditioned to reject anything he says, whatever it is.

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NoApologyTour 6 points ago +6 / -0

I fully agree. Even if he is playing “4D chess”, it doesn’t justify the push for these vaccines. A just response would be along the lines of “we’ve created these genetic therapies, and they haven’t met the standards required by any vaccine in history. We’re making them available on an emergency basis to those that want them, but be fully aware that they are experimental and may pose short and long term risks.”

But we haven’t seen that from anyone. I appreciate that he’s stating they should be voluntary, but his language is very much that everyone should take them and we need to be convinced.

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BurtMcGirt 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly right

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CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

He definitely DID push it early on when he made statements that everyone should get it. It is only very recently, and after getting booed by his supporters that he added that we have to have our freedom.

You can make the claim that Trump was(is?) our best President for reasons XYZ and even say there is an unknown reason for his present and prior position on the poison jabs but no one can claim he doesn't know what is in those vials while simultaneously claiming that "he has it all" based on other high level military intelligence he had access to and no one can claim that he never pushed and promoted them for everyone because the simple fact is that he did.

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justkev 9 points ago +12 / -3

But some people will listen to him blindly and open themselves up to great longterm health risks.

IT'S BULLSHIT

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glade 5 points ago +10 / -5

please introduce me to someone who makes personal health decisions bc Donald Trump told them to

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JesusCampos411 10 points ago +10 / -0

You are crazy if you don’t think his silence and approval of the vaccines haven’t led many on the fence to go schedule their shot, I live in PA. A huge red county that was 85% Trump country in the elections and over 70% of adults here have gotten the jab, what does that tell you?

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KekistaniMemeLord 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think this is part of " some people must be shown" and precipice friend.

Some people actually need to go through the experience themselves and be brought to the brink to actually internalize and find the will to change i.e. not being being a sheep but an actual free thinking person that makes informed logical decisions

I know this from experience. The precipice can fundamentally change people. You can throw out statistics, science and advice to people but until they actually internalize it themselves and make the conscious decision to change and apply it it's meaningless.

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OkieBowhunter 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, well, if loved ones die because Trump is intentionally spreading bullshit, it doesn't matter how good this plan ends up. There will be many, many, many people that will never forgive him and you can't blame them. Here's the final leader of the free world promoting and endorsing deadly poison.

I wouldn't want to be gambling with karma like that.

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KekistaniMemeLord 3 points ago +3 / -0

The hard truth is that they have no one to blame but themselves. All the info is out there. Trump didn't hold anyone at gunpoint and force them to get injected.

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TrustingGod 2 points ago +2 / -0

Some in your state think for themselves & others do not.

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NeedMoarPillows 5 points ago +5 / -0

I said it above, but I know 5 people who got vaxxed because Trump was pushing it. they were worried it wasn't safe, but trust Trump more than anyone else. They're still fools.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Clearly he thinks people do this - he said exactly that. I have no doubt people trust Trump (I did) and look to him for advice. Remember him talking about Hydroxychloroquine?

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Mcmurdo32 3 points ago +4 / -1

Trump knows at least as much, and likely more, about the risks of the vaccines than we do. Do you think Trump would deliberately encourage people to expose themselves to long term health risks?

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NoApologyTour 4 points ago +4 / -0

Maybe... every other politician is doing it.

The reality is, based on the information publicly available, that the long term effects of the vax are unknown. It’s also known that it’s statistically more dangerous to younger people than covid is.

There may be a larger game being played here, but with all the info available to us there is 0 logic to his stance. I’d go as far as to say that unless he has personally verified evidence that the vax is designed to protect us from another weapon that China has yet to release (or some similar situation where this vax protects the greater population from a direct threat) then his actions are culpable in this whole fiasco.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree - and, how likely is it the DS is pushing a vax designed to protect us from China? I would say ZERO. Which means he's pushing something deadly and yes he's culpable. He could so easily turn this around! Just say the DS in the FDA, CDC, NIH, etc., are not doing their job and it seems as though there are serious questions that need answered. How hard is that?

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justkev 3 points ago +4 / -1

I would hope not.......

But his continuing push for the jab make ZERO SENSE

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CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Do you think the people reporting vax injuries are lying? Of course we want to believe in Trump. That doesn't negate the demand that we accept reality in front of our faces. I only know one person harmed by the jab so far but a stroke 2 days after injection in an otherwise healthy person is not enough of a coincidence where I'm gonna say "But Trump said they're safe and I know for sure he's a good guy."

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WokeTurnsToShit 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know three people who have died.

Besides it's not on us to prove it is unsafe it is on them to prove it is safe.

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Mcmurdo32 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is higher risk for sure, and I myself, don't see the point in assuming this level of risk unless maybe one is of the high risk categories for both covid and the flu. It is absolutely Nazi level to try to force people to assume that level of risk, but Trump is not advocating for any form of mandate or coercion.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you explain this? Because this is exactly what's happening.

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Mcmurdo32 1 point ago +1 / -0

My own theory, and that's what it is, is that the vaccines in and of themselves, aren't really maliciously bad. The other two possibilities are that Trump is evil and is actually furthering the DS agenda, or that Trump is naive to the malignancy of the vaccines, does not fit as well with what we observe concerning Trump, his relationship to the People, and his awareness of the world. I know that there is tons of stuff coming out now that we've had some chance to see the vaccines work, but I think at least for right now, my theory most fits with what we observe.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely. He has the bully pulpit even though he's not president. People will be and have been talked into this because of what he's said. And he's out of office now - why is he pushing it?

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Great05 0 points ago +1 / -1

Stop with that bullshit

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pearlrevolver 10 points ago +10 / -0

Remember when Trump used to be against vaccines in kids? This was a tweet of his from 28 March 2014:

Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!

Another from 22 October 2012:

Autism rates through the roof -- why doesn't the Obama administration do something about doctor-inflicted autism. We lose nothing to try.

In 2018 autism affected 1 in 54 kids, this year it's 1 in 40, what's it going to be in 10 years? Idiot parents don't think twice and pump their babies and kids up with these poisons because the doctor says so. Even my own mother in law threatened to take my kids and shoot em up full of vaccines because she thought I was nuts being an anti-vaxxer. She's apologized since because her other grandchildren now suffer from autism (heavily vaxxed).

Maybe if these same parents were personally affected they wouldn't be such staunch supporters of these vaccines anymore. How many stories of children being harmed by big pharma have been swept under the rug or just downright denied if you bring them up? Everyone had an opinion of vaccines before this: you're either one of those lunatic anti-vaxxers or you're a "normal" unquestioning person who believes in the system. If you were on the fence, you weren't paying close enough attention. Now everyone has taken a side and those who were jabbed all have skin in the game. Think of how furious they will be when they learn the truth? Just maybe after all this we can stop systemically poisoning our children.

TLDR: When children suffer from skyrocketing autism rates, the majority do not question why. So many parent's own children become vaccinated and change and yet the parents keep defending the system. Now that those same people are being directly affected, how many of them will still defend the system? This is about our future, how can we have a country if all our kids are sick and mentally messed up? Trump knows all of this. Everything he does is for America's future.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your theory is Trump is pushing the vaccines so more people will take them, and then get injured, and be mad at...the government? Themselves?

I'm not sure I follow that. I would be angry at everyone who told me it was safe, from Fauci on down to the media and including people like Trump. If my 14 year old daughter was wheelchair bound, probably for life, after a shot - I wouldn't be able to fogive him, and I wouldn't be able to forgive myself.

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pearlrevolver 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe that's the point. If Trump said don't take the vax, no one would take it because it's "his" vax right? Then none of the sheep would learn to stop blindly trusting big pharma/media/politicians/etc. and nothing is solved-in fact it gives the gov. the excuse to continue lockdowns. Trump would not be able to remain silent on the vax being such a public person that he is. I mean he could reject all interviews or ignore all questions regarding the vax, it would be odd. Such an omission would be viewed the same as him saying "my vax doesn't work". This leads to no one taking the vaccine and then the sheeple do not wake up from the big pharma chokehold they have over them and in a few decades time, most children will be vax injured and autistic.

It's like suddenly turning up the heat to max when you're trying to slow boil the frog. Whoever gets injured from the vax now is saving the future generation from the slow boiling genocide of the future. You should be pissed, and that's the goal. A nation pissed at the powers to be. Then we will see real change.

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

yeah but that solution is still morally abhorrent

thus the theory that trump is on the less bad but still evil side of a warring cabal

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I read your comments, agree we are thinking the same thing. We don't know the answer, but it is not sitting right. Trump has done a lot to earn our trust, but this issue is a big problem.

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arathyra 2 points ago +2 / -0

Came here after I saw your comments on my post. I agree completely. This is a huge deal. He could be simply saying nothing - if asked, "I'm not in charge of this anymore, but Biden is doing a terrible job and Fauci is a joke." But he goes OUT OF HIS WAY to promote this stuff. Love him on almost everything, but someone needs to talk to him about this issue.

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arathyra 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump just needs to say, "I hear now there are side effects - we had this thing on track and Sleepy Joe has botched it - like the Border, like Afghanistan, like the pipeline - we need an investigation. People need to think carefully about getting this shot, it's clearly different that what we worked on and it's no longer doing the job." I mean, this is low hanging fruit.

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Lopeover 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hope people read the article & the comments at the end. VERY THOUGHT PROVOKING.

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TrustingGod 1 point ago +1 / -0

Red October -> Sub turns into the torpedo to prevent it from destroying them

Operation Warpspeed -> Turn into the torpedo to prevent it from destroying us

Makes sense to me.

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TrustingGod 2 points ago +2 / -0

'Operation warp speed' was about accelerating the derp states plans so that the water would heat quickly enough for the frogs to realize versus being slowly boiled alive.

The worldwide pushback is the result of 'turning into the torpedo'.

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TrustingGod 1 point ago +1 / -0

'Yes i know but' 😂 everything before the 'but' doesn't matter

'the fact that Trump keeps enthusiastically pushing the vax'

I have not seen this, though your statement was an opinion, not a fact, & people can have differences of opinion.

The rest of what you said is more pointless opinion & I'm not sorry to say no one cares if you declare 'this' or demand that Trump does 'that'.

A God awful trolls nest, this thread is...

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

he will knock it once and then start pushing it again.

for instance, being against the vaccine for children, or claiming boosters were not needed and are just a cash cow for big pharma.

He will always say the truth then never really mention it again.

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TrustingGod 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'm not a fan of doomers nor exaggerations of current events without critical thought - that's what i interpreted your comment to be.

I wasn't wrong, this entire thread is rotten crap, just what the trolls love to roll in. Doomer posts that serve no purpose except to invite FUD & discord are counter-productive.

Edit: BTW you said "ENTHUSIASTICALLY pushing" which is your opinion. Emphasis on the 'enthusiastically' being yours. If Trump's approach to the topic of the vax & mandates is that he is 'ENTHUSIASTICALLY pushing them', what the heck does one then call someone who is truly ENTHUSIASTICALLY pushing the vaccine, say by mandating everyone get them or lose their job?

Your comment reminded me of 'consensus cracking'/MSM garbage where something is blown way out of proportion & spun to get a certain reaction. Then, cry victim.

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TrustingGod 1 point ago +1 / -0

So lovely, glad I don't care.

Are you going to tell Trump what he needs to do some more? Or what his base is going to do?

Insufferable cunt, lmao.

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patriotic_legend [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

sure it makes sense, but it is a theory pulled out of thin air by anons. Further if this is the death shot and kills 10%+ who take it, it won't make sense any more. Trump's initial support of the jab and warp speed sure, but at this point with all the data out he could simply stay quiet about this subject, he no longer needs to promote it.

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patriotic_legend [S] 18 points ago +22 / -4

Oh and this is not an invitation to shills. This is simply voicing frustration to one of Trump's blind spots. He has made statements many of us didn't agree with in the past, but he usually backed off them once he heard our voices.

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Reassess_Reevaluate 11 points ago +11 / -0

This isn't just a blind spot. His pushing of the vaccines is more akin to having a nuclear bomb go off in the distance and acting like everything is fine.

Vaccine choice, mandates and the fact that there's serious questions about whether it's a genocide plot, are literally the biggest issues in the country right now, but instead of engaging any of that, he's running around endorsing politicians.

I was a wholehearted Trump supporter for years, but my trust in him is waning significantly over this issue.

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SomeRandomGuy77 5 points ago +5 / -0

Vaccine choice, mandates and the fact that there's serious questions about whether it's a genocide plot, are literally the biggest issues in the country right now.

When trump says take the vaccine, it causes literally millions of leftist retards to stop and then be open to the idea that there is something bad in the vaccine at all. Without that entryway none of them would even tolerate the question being on the table.

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Reassess_Reevaluate 9 points ago +9 / -0

It also causes lots of good, patriotic and well meaning Americans who don't have time to spend here all day and read up on vaccine injuries/deaths to say "Well, Trump took it and said to get it, so I guess we should get it too dear. Also, lets inject our kids as soon as we can..."

It's unconscionable.

There's literally no way to defend this aspect of his post-presidency.

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sun_wolf 4 points ago +6 / -2

My best argument is that Trump is taking essentially a neutral stance here by conforming with the “status quo”. This takes him out of the equation, debate-wise, and forces both us and our opponents to argue this issue differently. At this point, if Trump came out against the injections, it might satisfy us for a day or two, but would it actually help? Be honest too. I think it would radicalize the left even further and force them into a rigid pro-injection stance. And what would it do for our side? Less or more than that?

I also think this is one of those things where Trump feels he has to play along with the official television narrative that “all vaccines and pharmaceuticals in general are safe and effective - even the ones we were forced to recall”. I look at this similarly to his comments on 9/11, where he continues to pretend to believe in the official television narrative there too. I think it’s one of those things where it would be very difficult for a President to validate the conspiracy theory even if they believe or know the conspiracy theory is true just because their word carries so much authority. I also don’t think Presidents question the JFK assassination or Titanic or Sandy Hook either. I almost think this might relate to declassification, where Presidents are not allowed to discuss this stuff because of their official position.

Basically I think Trump is playing dumb on vaccines, as well as other things. He does this with things like Spygate too, where he pretends like he only knows as much as we do until it’s reported in the press. He even does this with Q, pretending he is just hearing about it when reporters ask him.

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sun_wolf 1 point ago +1 / -0

Neutral isn’t quite the right word as I don’t mean neutral like “no opinion” but more like, “No shift from the mainstream narrative consensus.” Obviously the mainstream narrative consensus is not itself neutral but I think, to an extent, the comparison to 9/11 makes sense. As President, Trump would know about Building 7, the Bushes, Mossad, etc. But then when he delivers a commemorative speech about 9/11, he follows the mainstream “official” narrative. Is that lying? Well - yeah. But I also know what a tactical error it would be for him, at that time, to start going off on, “This was an inside job, the U.S. government was behind this, dancing Israelis!” I mean in an information war, when the truth about 9/11 has not been declassified or revealed, a President kind of has to go along with the official narrative.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

A neutral stance would be keeping one's opinion to oneself. This feeds into every terrible caricature of Trump as a egotistic blowhard who has to take credit for everything. YES, warp speed was a success - in as much as we have 4 poisonous vaccines in record time. He should drop it. I can think of no reason to discuss it, let alone say it's awesome and take credit for it. My circle of friends (admittedly small! lol) are more concerned about this than the border, the supply chain crisis, afghanistan (remember that?) and the 3.5 trillion spending COMBINED. This is the issue. This is end times type stuff. And he's pushing it.

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TrustingGod 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, that is them being just as dumb as the covidian fascists...

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, they are all on board. Before the election they tried to attack him on this but as soon as they won it's been full speed ahead.

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Mcmurdo32 4 points ago +4 / -0

Trump knows that many feel as you do. There is a reason for his approach to this issue. Instead of handing the Cabal this victory, you should ponder the reasons for this approach. He didn't just do all the great things we know he's done only to lead us to our deaths by vaccines. He knows as much as we do, and probably more, about them. Start with the question: are the vaccines REALLY all that bad? Not risk free, definitely should never be mandated or coerced, not better than natural immunity, and not better than just getting covid for most, but maybe not the "kill shot" that many believe it is? Remember, death is a possible side effect of Advil too.

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TheTroof 4 points ago +4 / -0

This shot is killing a hell of a lot more people than Advil ever has, in 1/100th the time.

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

dude, i know three people who died and my friends boses face is falling off like sloth from the fucking goonies now.

It's not remotely safe.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry but this is terrible. Please don't let your love for Trump blind you to what's going on with the vaccine. Yes, it's a kill shot - more people have died in 1 year from the covid vaccines than all other vaccines in the last 10 years combined. If this was any other vaccine it would have been pulled after a month's worth of deaths.

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VaccinesCauseSIDS 9 points ago +9 / -0

I prefer to believe that given an equal opportunity to speak and be heard, that i would actually convince Trump the vaccine is neither safe, effective, or necessary

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patriotic_legend [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

I agree with this, but shouldn't he already know and agree with us on this?

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, he should. This is the really disturbing part.

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bubble_bursts 2 points ago +3 / -1

And his reply would be that, that exactly is part of the plan.

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Mcmurdo32 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is not a blind spot. Trump knows as much or more about the vaccines than we do. So what you need to ask is do you believe Trump would deliberately encourage us to take or do something that is detrimental to our well being.

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

It appears he doesn't know more about the jab than we do. I look at data, statistics and science. The jab is unnecessary for most of the population. It may or may not be beneficial for high risk. It is not an immunity vaccine.

so are you pro jab now? did you take the shot? I will die before I take it.

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Mcmurdo32 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is definitely not working as advertised. I think the virus is beating it. I don't know why he's encouraging it, but Trump has earned enough credibility with me that I don't think he would encourage people to get something he would know to be detrimental. He was part of the team that fought covid with far better success than Biden and company, so I assume he knows alot about it.

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TrustingGod 0 points ago +2 / -2

You honestly think that a billionaire former (or current?) President of the US doesn't have access to Intel as good or better than anons on a messaging board?

'So you are pro jab now?'

Effing toxic as comments

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patriotic_legend [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

what are you saying? Other than anger directed at me I see now point or purpose in your posts on this subject.

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TrustingGod 1 point ago +2 / -1

Anger? Where did I express anger?

I merely pointed out the manipulative language/logic used in your retort & made an observation regarding the quality of these comments.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

This logic is exactly backwards. "Don't evaluate what you heard - ask yourself if he would say something like that, and if you decide he wouldn't then you didn't hear it."

He said it. He encourages people to take it. It IS dangerous, almost a million adverse events reported to VAERS. More deaths than all vaccines in history combined. It doesn't square. We have to accept it. Question everything. Ask questions.

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Mcmurdo32 1 point ago +1 / -0

A valid argument. However, we can't end our analysis there. We know this action would be totally incongruent with who Trump appears to be in every other aspect. I don't subscribe to the "acting for the DS for controlled opposition" theory for the simple reason that no one would persist through the gauntlet they have put Trump through unless they were sincere and devoted to the cause that they appear to support. Acting can only go so far. So these warrant further study before writing Trump off.

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Mcmurdo32 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think he would. Trump has earned that level of credibility. I think the goal of those trying to force the vax is not to get everyone vaccinated, but to get everyone on the vaccine passports, as well as set up the infrastructure for future delivery of future nanotech and bioweaponry that would be bad for us. Encouragement of voluntary reciept of a vaccine does not further these evil goals.

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Mcmurdo32 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think he's earn the credibility for us not to assume he wants us to take something that is bad for us. So we must ask why is he encouraging this and explore all possible answers.

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TrustingGod 2 points ago +2 / -0

'One of Trump's blind spots'

Man, if only he had you in his cabinet, the world would be saved because clearly you know better from your armchair than he does from the Resolute Desk!

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patriotic_legend [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes I get it, you don't like anyone critical of Trump. I have been a Trump supporter for a long time now, way earlier than most. I am critical of him on this issue as I should be. I am not a blind follower, apparently you are.

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TrustingGod 1 point ago +2 / -1

Where did I say that i dislike people critical of Trump or make it appear that I am a 'blind follower'?

You pontificate as if you know what is best, I was merely stating that by your logic a great disservice was foisted upon the world by Trump for not recognizing your greatness & not calling for your coronation ceremony the day of his inauguration.

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patriotic_legend [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for confirming my suspicion about you.

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TrustingGod 0 points ago +1 / -1

So mysterious...

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ATLAS_ONE 11 points ago +11 / -0

He's not doing much convincing.

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patriotic_legend [S] 9 points ago +10 / -1

not too us, but I guarantee he has convinced many people to take it.

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ATLAS_ONE 5 points ago +8 / -3

Imagine taking a vaccine because a celebrity said "they do work, they work really well". Fucking sign me up Donald!

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Wtf_socialismreally 6 points ago +7 / -1

He gained massive support and trust, and he is using that trust to push vaccines. And people are taking them because they trust him.

He's not just a celebrity anymore. That was a long time ago.

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patriotic_legend [S] 5 points ago +7 / -2

So these people deserve death? Is Trump cleansing the world of them? If so that is evil as fuck, we should be trying to wake these people up not bury them.

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FuckYouAsWell 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yes. Wake the fuck up. This is real life. You make life or death decisions every day. If you trust the man in the tv with your health over yourself and your personal doctor your a fucking retard.

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FuckYouAsWell 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't disagree only nuance is that you (in most cases especially in the states) pick your own doc, so back to the self responsibility. Yeah at some point in the line heads need to roll, but if you ever thought that anyone else had your best interest in mind better then yourself you've been misled. I'm probably preaching to the choir here in that regard, but if anyone wonders why there is little compassion, it's because that's life. And if you've payed attention and read history it's painfully obvious you're largely on your own, and you're damn sure responsible for everything you do.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

I second that. I have a fleet of doctors and they all recommend it - some very insistently.

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FuckYouAsWell 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's irrelevant who he is. If you blindly follow any one person you're just as bad as the "sheep" we claim the other side to be.

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patriotic_legend [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

so kill the retards is your take, got it.

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FuckYouAsWell 3 points ago +3 / -0

Life isn't fair. You're expecting orange man to look our for your best interests better then you can?

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

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patriotic_legend [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

I am not taking the jab faggot, but I am caring enough to not want death to all those that did or will.

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ATLAS_ONE 5 points ago +5 / -0

Nobody said they deserve death.

If the devolution theory is correct and Trump is performing a reverse color revolution I imagine it is of upmost importance that he doesn't give people an excuse to take their attention away from the failings of the Biden admin.

Of course, like you said, this wasn't explicitly mentioned by Q and is an external theory made by anons. However, Q did seem to leave Law of War manual bread crumbs that led to the devolution theory.

At the end of the day Trump might need to be held accountable for encouraging people to take the injections.

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patriotic_legend [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

good statement, I agree he can't go full force against the vax, that would divert attention and give the media a single man that the left has been trained to hate as the poster child for the movement. But, I would prefer he stay quiet on the jab rather than promote it.

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ATLAS_ONE 5 points ago +5 / -0

Saying nothing would be preferred, but who knows how far it would have gotten him. Although he got pretty far without commenting on Q.

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arathyra 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree - I'd like to hear the case for not simply remaining silent on the vaccine. If the subject comes up - say it's Biden's show now and he's fucking it up.

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is the law of the jungle not the law of god.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Everyone is deserving of the consequences of choices that they made themselves. That's just how it works. They made the decision. They scheduled the appointment, saw the paper with all the side effects, and then did it anyway. All of their own free will. This might seem unfair and I can agree to that, but that's just life. The greatest injustice in this world is people have varying levels of intelligence, deductive reasoning, and critical thinking.

You are acting like Trump setup this whole system but he didn't. He is working within it.

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pearlrevolver 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not to mention, these same people don't even think twice about over vaxxing their own kids. How many have development disorders/autism and the parents shrug and think nothing of it? In 2018 it was 1 out of 54 kids have autism, this year it's 1 out of 40, what's it going to be in ten years? The vaccines have to stop, we're killing off our own civilization with these things and the idiot parents do mental gymnastics to protect their precious vax narrative. If these idiot parents are personally affected, maybe just maybe they'll wake up and stop poisoning their kids.

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

so, if you were Trump, why promote the jab at this point? Of course we make our own decisions, that does not excuse Trump from his.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well simply think about what would happen if he loudly voiced his real opinions on vaccines. I can see the MSM headlines now. "Pandemic of Trump supporters", "why Trump wants you to die" etc. It's all a long strategy game. Like how in chess you may sacrifice your queen in order to win and avoid even worse casualties to your pieces.

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

my point is he doesn't have to promote the vax, he could simply shut the fuck up about it.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

You've set up a false choice. Patriotic_legend asked why he didn't keep quiet - and you immediately have Trump "loudly voicing..." That's not the choice. He could have said nothing about it. The media doesn't exactly run to Trump for opinions on anything. They've censored him for the last year or more. He could have just ridden this one out, but he's inserted himself and can't get off the vaccine train.

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chickyrogue 3 points ago +4 / -1

good luck with trying to wake them up its been what years and counting

the country is tanking norms are melting so cut THEM slack?? time to cut THEM free!

when trump pushed the vax everyone said they wouldnt take it so maybe he was saving lives no?

anyway its a choice its a personal choice and i cant tell anyone ELSE what to do with it

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patriotic_legend [S] 7 points ago +9 / -2

I just don't see the point in continually pushing the vax by Trump. To make Biden look bad? Who cares, everyone knows Biden is a dementia ridden puppet, even the normies.

I mean 60%+ over 18 have taken the jab, it doesn't stop the spread in any way, has negative side effects, yet Trump is still pushing it. There are children that will get this b/c of Trump.

We are doing mental gymnastics to try and make this logical, it is not.

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Cpleb 4 points ago +4 / -0

He may be baiting the lefties to call him out on the vaccine damage? the one thing they never get at his throat about.

Ive gone back and forth wondering about if trump was a black hat or white hat bc of this vax stuff. I’ve come to the conclusion if he’s black hat we’ve never had a chance anyways. If I choose to continue to trust the plan then I must have faith there are parts of the plan that may not make sense to me bc if I understand, then the enemy will understand as well.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is what passes for debate discussion and research here on GAW?

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CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

The ones I know can't be awakened. I don't care how much people want Trump to be the hero of this story he is going to have to be held accountable for his words and deeds in the same way as all the others.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

A "celebrity" who was the president of the United States and whom 80 million people voted for. Imagine that.

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TrustGodOnly 3 points ago +3 / -0

He influenced my mom to take it. FUCK that asshole!!!

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ObviousStatementMan 11 points ago +11 / -0

As much as it sucks - Trump is creating the exact juxtaposition we need. Notice how no one can run with the narrative "Blind Trump Supporters are Listening to their Cult 45 Leader and Refusing the Vaccine!"

By Trump NOT coming out against the vaccines, rolling them out 3-4 years early under EUA vs. a full/actual mandate, and allowing the "Biden" Admin + MSM to push the Vaxx + Booster narrative as hard as possible, he is forcing their hand... while simultaneously not giving them the narrative to blame Trump for those who are hesitant/pushing back.

The longer this goes on, the more obvious it is that a vaccine was never needed. That Remdesivir is an expensive and ineffective treatment. That people were being murdered for nearly 2 years via lack of early intervention + ventilators.

Remember, we're dealing with the dismantling of an ages old corrupt cabal with power centers on every corner around the World. Some strategic moves had to be made in order for this to work.

You may not like it. I may not either. But it's either this or millennia of pure darkness and evil. Which would you pick?

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AdAstra_PerAspera 5 points ago +6 / -1

Yes, this. People like OP have zero idea what strategy or war is. "muh fee fees are sad cause bad shot do damage" REALITY CHECK: WE ARE IN WAR. PEOPLE DIE. INFORMATION AND PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +5 / -2

The longer this shit goes on the less patriots seem to be in control.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

I really miss the tone this community had about a year or so ago. It seems most have lapsed into a "trust the plan, any criticism of it or Trump = a shill or doomer." Q taught us to think, to discuss and debate, unearth the truth. Now if you step out of line you're mocked as some sort of idiot who "doesn't get it" while the explanations offered are bizarre. Trump is FOR the vaccine so liberals can't accuse him of being AGAINST the vaccine. What?

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

Q is gone.

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TrustingGod 0 points ago +1 / -1

Name does not check out.

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patriotic_legend [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

great comment, really adds a lot to the discussion.

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TrustingGod 0 points ago +1 / -1

Lmao

Then I fear what that makes your pity-party comment.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump is encouraging the vaccine so as to be free from criticism that would accompany him not talking about the vax at all? Trump will be - and has been - accused of running a cult. This won't change. Coming out for the vaccine buys him exactly zero credit with the DS, media and liberals. This makes no sense to me.

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ObviousStatementMan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, if he said nothing when asked... or if he never brought it up... that's all it would take for the media to run with the "CULT OF TRUMP IS ANTI-VAXX!!!". But they can't. They can't pin this on Trump and it is driving them insane.

The vaccine hesitancy and vaccine regret/booster hesitancy is a function of actual critical thinking. The strikes? The reversals? Mandate pushback? None of that can be blamed on Trump with the optics he has crafted.

If you are so fucking stupid that you are listening to a politician to make your medical decisions?? I mean... c'mon man, that's not the kind of thought leaders we need right now.

It's a game of optics. I think that Trump spinning the vaccine this way removes a HUGE talking point they were planning on.

Now what happens when the side effects bubble to the surface? The booster shot drawbacks? The regret? Are they then going to reverse course and place the blame on Trump for these dangerous vaccines that they have been bloviating about for over a year?

He's not looking for credit from the DS/MSM... that will never happen. He is simply removing a critical narrative they were planning to leverage against anti-vaxxers.

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axrevolutionai 6 points ago +6 / -0

I posted about this earlier and it concerns me as well.

but the more I think of it, the more I think it's smoke. Trump is positioning himself as the greatest communicator and the best salesman. A salesman so good he can sell you something you don't even want. It makes Biden look an even bigger joke

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patriotic_legend [S] 10 points ago +10 / -0

I understand what you are saying, it is hard for me to believe Trump is against us, but even if this is smoke, there is a lot of collateral damage.

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Lopeover 3 points ago +3 / -0

Possibly.

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bubble_bursts 4 points ago +4 / -0

So, I believe that the hammer will drop only after the Cabal pulls the plug on the economy and ushers in the Great Reset, at which point the White Hats will be ready with a bait and switch.

But for the Cabal to pull the plug, its possible that every person needs to be vaccinated - which means, first - White hats have a way of undoing the vaccine damage (unless you died unfortunately), second - There is some control mechanism in the vaccine that the Cabal plans to use at the time of the crash, and white hats probably have a way to keep it in check so that it only shows people how evil they are, but wont harm anyone permanently.

Just spitballing, but whatever Trump is doing, there is obviously a reason for it.

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callmedesdinova 7 points ago +7 / -0

At his core, he's still an egomaniac taking credit for a "good" thing.

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is one of my concerns. It really looks this way, though I pray that's not the case.

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Factfiler 5 points ago +5 / -0

This where I leave it for my own sanity. My support for Trump won't waiver, but I struggle with his jab support. But this is war, and there will be casualties, unfortunately, and since I can't see the whole battlefield, I stay sane by believing trump and the military have control of this.

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patriotic_legend [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I hope the cabal doesn't need everyone to take the vax. If they do we are going to have a bloody civil war.

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bubble_bursts 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, I know, I am still scratching my brains .... either that, or Cabal needs to believe that Trump will pacify his supporters as they push for 100%, until at the last moment he will tweet the #55 and we will know what to do...

But definitely, try and think of this on a 4D chess. Vaccines are the biggest moves in this battle against Cabal and there is no way Trump doesnt know what they are really like.

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CherokeePede 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sooner or later the people will have to stand up against it. Trump should not have to be the one stopping everything.

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justkev 4 points ago +6 / -2

IF he is going to convince me........... He needs to answer the following:

WHY do I need it in the first place?

What exactly is in it?

What is the longterm effect on my health EXACTLY?

Who will be liable for any damage to my body?

Why is he pimping Pharma over NATURAL IMMUNITY?

WHY didn't he push THERAPUTICS over WARP SPEED FROM THE BEGINNING?

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patriotic_legend [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Great list of questions, spot on!

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289m -5 points ago +1 / -6

RIP you idiots that could be convinced

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AdAstra_PerAspera 2 points ago +2 / -0

LOL

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or just pull a Trump and simply say "No".

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arathyra 1 point ago +1 / -0

"WHY didn't he push THERAPUTICS over WARP SPEED FROM THE BEGINNING?" - yes!

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Taffy333 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think Trump's point is that he wouldn't need to mandate the vaxx because his words would convince people to take it willingly. I don't know why he can't just come out against the mandate without continuing to laud the vaxx. At this point I'm chalking it up to 'fog of war', but I am tired of hearing him go on about it.

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AdAstra_PerAspera 1 point ago +1 / -0

see what "ObviousStatementMan" wrote

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chickyrogue 12 points ago +14 / -2

maxwell doesnt have shit or it would have been the foundation of the dossier not lies from chris steel pleeeze

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chickyrogue 5 points ago +7 / -2

epstein isnt whacked you hack

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

So Epstein did kill himself? Or do you believe he's still alive?

If he's still alive, he's probably in a bunker in New Zealand with Tom Hanks and all the rest.

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chickyrogue 2 points ago +2 / -0

ivbeleive hanks is dead

epstein is hiden somewhere

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arathyra 2 points ago +2 / -0

When do you think Hanks died? And do you think there is an imposter in his place?

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chickyrogue 1 point ago +1 / -0

i think his brother plays the role and cgi

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patriotic_legend [S] 10 points ago +12 / -2

Yeah, it seems he is either against us or doesn't know what is going on anymore.

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

less bad but still evil side of a warring cabal

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Octobyte17 3 points ago +4 / -1

Or maybe morons have to be taught not to take specific advice, in this case medical, from people who aren't medical experts. Even then, proper due diligence is to do your own research, even at a base level, to check out what ACTUAL data there is and not what information that is being cherry picked to slant your decision. You've not taken personal responsibility into account and, as such, missed the entire part of making your own damned decisions and dealing with the consequences.

Let this be a hard lesson to be learned. Think for yourself or be swallowed whole by the establishment.

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Unhappymeal 3 points ago +3 / -0

I guess your family members also failed to hear him talk about the freedom of choice. If your family lingers on every word spoken by someone else then the problem is on your end not the speakers. Think for yourself and quit being spoon fed is a pretty important life lesson. Also you’re an idiot of the highest caliber if you think Maxwell has a tape on Trump. It would have been plastered EVERYWHERE when they needed it for damage. They tried this game already, Epstein occupants who were witnesses all testified Trump was never there nor witnessed him involved in any of that junk.

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bubble_bursts 2 points ago +5 / -3

got the shot because he told them to

He never told anyone to take the vaccines. He only said vaccines are great but you dont have to take it, you have the choice.

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callmedesdinova 5 points ago +6 / -1

He just got finished saying he would convince people to take the Kill Shot. Can you not fucking read?

"Convincing", "selling", however he wants to term it can't really be accomplished without making an argument about why it's a good thing to do, and that you should do it.

People have definitely been convinced by his say so. Don't be retarded.

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CarrieDodson17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sorry but earlier this year he said more than once that everyone should get it. He didn6t start talking about freedom until getting booed by his fans at a rally.

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Blurpy 3 points ago +3 / -0

We all can understand and agree on one thing: Trump knows more of the plan than we do.

Since he is saying this - there is a reason for it.

To Quote President Trump (Q+): "Let's see what happens."

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arathyra 0 points ago +1 / -1

Should we not oppose the vaccine or the mandates then? Since he's given the ok? And instead take the jab and just wait?

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LeeChild 3 points ago +3 / -0

This movement is not about Trump. This is about we the people. We need to make the choice ourselves. Learn to be a critical thinker.

I do what I want. Trump can do what he wants. No one person can solve the world's issues and we can't depend on said person either.

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patriotic_legend [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am not looking to Trump for guidance, only worried about the normies that are looking to Trump for answers.

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LeeChild 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same.

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ToxicLibertyism 3 points ago +4 / -1

What about his actions to back his words? Are Trump's businesses forcing their employees to obey Biden's vax dictates, or not? Make bossman answer that one question to show what he means by "convincing" people.

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NJHolyLand 2 points ago +2 / -0

I suspect his mintel handlers have enough data to grasp that it's something patriots will forgive from their abundant political tolerance and THE THING that will calm the TDS normies out of their corona madness when he returns.

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patriotic_legend [S] 6 points ago +7 / -1

I guess this all depends if this is truly the death shot. If ADE kicks in and 20%+ die from it, I don't think forgiveness will be on the menu.

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Wtf_socialismreally 6 points ago +6 / -0

I forgive no man involved in any form with killing my entire family in a situation like that.

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New_believer11 1 point ago +1 / -0

What’s ADE?

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patriotic_legend [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Antibody dependency enhancement. If the jab causes this, which Dr. Zev Zelenko and Robert Malone (inventor of mRNA) and many others think it could, it basically causes the immune system to overreact to sickness which can kill the host. It would happen over a few years as the host gets a sickness, so it is not immediate. Numbers like 20% and up to 80% have been tossed around. I am skeptical of this happening, but it is a possibility.

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NJHolyLand -2 points ago +1 / -3

True but i am skeptical about their lethalness and suspected since the beginning they're selling old garbage to be disposed of.

Also i don't care if people do die from it bc too many are born and the state exists solely for the superfluous

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I am not 100% they are the death shot either, but the fact that they planned this mRNA modifier tech for years and were just looking for a way to get everyone injected should scare the shit out of anybody.

Maybe this jab is a precursor and the true death shot or mind control shot is in the future.

I think you should care if people die from it. There are children getting this. There are innocent hard working people that are simply obedient and trusting. If this is the death shot many good people will die.

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NJHolyLand -1 points ago +1 / -2

I do not experience trusting or obedience as virtue to be protected

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

We should be waking these people, not putting them to death.

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simon 0 points ago +0 / -0

What a retarded take. You don't care if people die from the vaccine because the world is too populated? Please kindly kill yourself then and do us all a favor.

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NJHolyLand -1 points ago +1 / -2

No the existence of most people, who are unremarkable and incapable of soundly conducting themselves in political relationships of reciprocal respect and conformity to natural law, make the state necessary, and its crimes against me are a direct consequence of their retarded and clamoring existence

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ThePowerOfPrayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Natural law, eh? Now you're sounding like Pope Francis...

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simon 1 point ago +1 / -0

And in which ways do you conform to natural law?

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NJHolyLand 1 point ago +1 / -0

I respect people's natural rights to live their lives if they aren't intruding on mine and i handle instances of violations and aggression in my own life

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NJHolyLand 1 point ago +1 / -0

Haha when you can't comprehend but know you're smarter and must reply

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Robertkolodin 1 point ago +1 / -0

He has to do this if he wants to ever win an election again should things not go his way Before the next election he is going to need a lot of the people in the middle and on the fence who believe in the vaccines To vote for him knowing his loyal supporters are still going to vote for him so he doesn't have to appeal to us he already has us.

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Robertkolodin 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's a fact as well

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Robertkolodin 1 point ago +1 / -0

This post doesn't say anything about him pushing the vaccination hard it just says he would Attempt to convince people. Isn't that what anybody wants an option

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OkieBowhunter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Truth is, it seems he can't express that he knows they're dangerous right now. I think the end-game will have Trump admitting to being tricked by the vaccine manufacturers. The data is out there... The vaccines are lethal to many. This isn't being discussed anywhere but online in forums with no MSM coverage.

I believe in the end, Trump will change his tune on the vaccines. They're completely unnecessary due to Ivermectin so why incur the risk? But it's all just a theory and yes, it's frustrating and confusing. The bigger point here is his position on mandating the vaccines makes his opinion about their efficacy less critical.

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patriotic_legend [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree to a point. But if these jabs are as bad as some say, he will have a problem on his hands.

At this point he could simply say if you are at high risk the vax may be beneficial to you, if you are not at high risk the vax doesn't seem to offer you much.

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WokeTurnsToShit 1 point ago +1 / -0

essentially he did say that with regards to children, then stopped talking about it, why? similarly, he did the same with HCQ

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Lapstrake -2 points ago +8 / -10

I don't think Donald J. Trump needs any advice from you, OP.

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patriotic_legend [S] 9 points ago +11 / -2

great comment. I guess you think it is good he is pushing the poison death shot. There are many that have and will take it b/c of his pushing of it.

The fact that you think a man is infallible, perfect proves you are a fucking moron.

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Bungleweed 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’m gonna preface this by saying I liked Trump, he did a pretty good job with what he was given and the challenges he faced, but I’ve never been a trump flag person. So don’t come at me with “well your orange lord can do no wrong” because he can.

I would like to know more about these many people that are taking it because trump said it was ok. Is this in your personal life? Because all the people I know have either already made up their minds about getting it and aren’t going to listen to trump either way or they feel like you and don’t understand why trump is “pushing it”. The crowd boos him when he brings it up, I don’t think that many are being convinced. “Trump said it was ok” was never a reason I heard from anyone, anywhere. Not saying they don’t exist I just think it’s not many at all.

I mean, he’s kinda stuck. What is he now gonna come out and say “oh wait, no DONT take it now…” I do get what your saying. I think this is more of a “painted yourself into a corner” situation. Sure WE would be ecstatic if he came out and did that. So would the other guys. You can’t turn it around and say “well you guys thought it was a bad idea last year” because we’ve already done that and we’re the only ones who cared. There’s honestly not much to be gained.

I’m sorry, the type of person who would listen to a political personality on what they should do with their health was gonna get it either way.

OR, and I know this is crazy to even be saying here but you can’t discount something because it unpleasant, maybe it’s all 2 sides of the same coin and we’ve already lost.

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patriotic_legend [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

Good comments. I can't say I know people that took it solely based on Trump. But, I do think for anyone on the fence it could have an impact.

I know he pushed for the vax and supported the vax so he thinks it is good. But, the more data that comes out it appears to be more bad than good, at least for younger healthy people.

I don't think he needs to come out against it, but he doesn't need to cheerlead for it anymore.

And yes, I have considered that we have lost. As a person who thinks and uses logic, like most of us here, we must think of all scenarios. I have come to the conclusion, either there is a plan and Q is running the show or the great reset is about to happen. I don't think there is an in between.

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Bungleweed 4 points ago +4 / -0

I definitely agree there is no in between.

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Factfiler 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fren, you are so spot on with your comments at least as to how I feel. I too wish he'd just stop saying anything. I keep hoping there is some cure for the jabbed that we haven't been told about. And although I see some evidence that WH are winning, I occasionally allow myself to contemplate that maybe this is a death shot and we've lost. But I still believe God will intervene. He is all we have in the end. Thanks for a great post and continuing to respond to everyone.

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

very true, God has a plan, and his plan is righteous. Whatever his plan is, I will do my best to do whatever it is he wants of me.

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Lapstrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice personal attack, fren.

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patriotic_legend [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

what was your response to me if not a personal attack..

"I don't think Donald J. Trump needs any advice from you, OP."

So my voice is not worthy of being heard? This is all you stated, you had no argument simply an attack.

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Lapstrake 3 points ago +3 / -0

No not an attack, fren.

I didn't call you a moron.

All I said was the Donald J. Trump doesn't need your advice. I didn't say your advice was dumb. I didn't say anything about you.

Let me go into more detail.

There is nobody more anti-vax than myself when it comes to the Wuhan virus vaccines. It seems obvious to me that this whole fake Biden Presidency is part of a larger plan to turn the people against the Deep State. And I believe it is working.

Trump is not ignorant or stupid. He knows the vaccines do more harm than good, but is very careful to not appear to against them. Therefore he is doing it as part of a larger strategy. Since a lot of people are dying or being injured for life by the vaccines, it must be a make-or-break part of his plan to save the world.

And the world definitely needs saving. We are headed towards a very dark future unless something changes dramatically.

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patriotic_legend [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

my point is he doesn't need to promote the vax. Seeing things like this make me think we are closer to the great reset than the great awakening. People are being injured or killed from the vax, people are losing their jobs. Around 65-70% have already taken the vax. If the masses turn on us, the war goes hot, then what?

I am not enjoying this movie at all, and while I have 100% faith in Jesus, I don't have 100% faith in men or plans of men I don't know.

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Lapstrake 3 points ago +3 / -0

my point is he doesn't need to promote the vax.

My point is that he knows exactly what is happening, and that you have no idea why he is doing what he is doing.

I don't think that you can assume that Trump were critical of the vaccine, that in the end fewer people would die.

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patriotic_legend [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

true.

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Wtf_socialismreally 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah, he's doing so well without us isn't he?