Went for my check-up yesterday, and my doctor asked if I wanted jabbed. I said no. She looked at me in horror and told me about a patient who's in the hospital on a respirator She asked why I don't want it. I said because: 99.7% of people under 60 recover; I am healthy, not obese and have no serious health issues; it's experimental; there are no long-term safety studies; you end up sick with covid anyway; 30,000 people have died and there are hundreds of thousands of adverse affects; 75 athletes in Europe have dropped dead of heart attacks; the efficacy wears off and then I lowered the boom ... I have therapeutics on hand that I can take. She went off on me about how there's no proof they work. I said there's plenty, but it's all censored. Besides, it's my body, so it's my choice. I don't want it. She typed on my record that I refused the jab and walked out. I was a little rattled but felt oh so victorious. I'll be finding a new doctor.
TLDR I fought my doc on the jab and I won.
yeah as smart. "Client uses critical thinking and is based"
the fbi will now be raiding your fridge
All your leftovers are belong to us....
@Factfiler didn't kill himself.
ROFL
Maybe that video snippet should get updated - I bet it would go viral and send red-pills everywhere
Go right ahead. It's filled with healthy food. LOL
My mom took us in if we got ear infections and for a once a year check up, She also made sure we went to the dentist for cleanings every 6 months.
As an adult, I visit the dentist but have avoided doctors almost completely. I got a physical shortly after I got married to humor my wife, but haven't been to a doctor since.
My only health issue was weight I packed on over the years, but I began intermittent fasting and transitioned to OMAD (One Meal A Day) at the end of last year. I've already lost nearly all the weight I've gained since getting married and switching from construction to IT work.
put a note in there that says "Hi Dave."
If they swat you, 50/50 odds somebody on the team is named David and will freak out, otherwise, they'll spend three weeks trying to figure out who the hell dave is.
And CNN will be there, by chance, to film it all at 530am.
Now I know what “rank” of “rank and file” FBI agents really means...
they'll be disappointed as i dont have any soy in there
Yeah you really have to careful these days. Everything you believed in your whole life now makes you a domestic terrorist while they proclaim the whackiest things are ‘science’. Remember that they are looking for any excuse they can find to declare you mental so you can’t own a gun!!!
I believe the correct answer is "I decline." with no further info as to why.
There is a show on one of the streamers called Mr. In-Between about an Aussie hitman. Police show up to his door and begin grilling him. He keeps answering "I don't like to answer questions." again & again & again. They get extremely frustrated by his non-answer. Yes, this is fiction but the way they react is realistic. You just cannot get traction and go further with an answer like that.
Short story “Bartleby the scrivener” by Melville iirc…he uses the best one liner to everyone’s frustration over and over:
“I PREFER NOT TO’
I think the correct answer is to say politely "I decline" and then if they press further, FUCK YOU and walk out. Seriously. Time to tell them where to go.
Talking to your doctor isn't the same as talking to the police. If someone is willing to educate their doctor, good for them. When enough patients start pushing back and explaining why, combined with the evidence of real life patients dying from or suffering adverse effects from the jab, some of these incurious doctors might get curious.
After Obama gave all medical professionals the job of evaluating your mental health (on the sly) to facilitate a gun grab you most certainly can no longer trust you doctor. The best thing is to remain as neutral as possible. If asked about the jab and you say something like ‘No, not yet.’ it is a lot better than getting yourself flagged as a resister. It implies you are not at all closed to it, just not quite ready for it.
I'm not a coward.
Your chart is now another factor in your social credit score should that come to pass. How you answer will absolutely be entered. Most physicians now have 20 something PA's doing the charting. Would like to think they all avoided programming while in school but doubtful.
If we hold out for long enough we won't have to explain anything to anybody because those who took the jab including the doctors will have too many health problems to be bothered by concern over ours.
Yep, labeled as mentally unstable now.
Elaine Benes is in that same DB https://postimg.cc/dZLC17kF
So are you.
Exactlly, and the fact that they respond the way they do just shows how brainwashed they are. They don't work, plain and simple.
That was probably the part that got her. How dare you choose therapeutics on your own! And then obtain them! It's like cheating on her.
They always hate it if you do any self treatments because it took them years of schooling and tons of debt to become the expert.
And your self treatments often work better than their meds, are a lot cheaper, and do the job without causing dangerous side effects.
That was the first thing that came to my mind. The follow up is always 'well, it is less severe'. This argument has never has made sense to me. How do you know it would be less severe? It's not like you get a do-over.
AND if we are still in "trials" what if you got a saline shot? Oh look, your CV isn't as severe.... because you got salt water in your veins?
So there is a proof - please send us more info.
Uh, how about 100% vaccinated countries like Gibraltar having outbreaks? Lazy.
And Portugal!
And Israel!
Look on those downvotes, fuck ! I honestly did not think about this way of proof the vaccines do not work I did not knew freaking Giblartar has 150% covid vaccination rate enter text
Kek!
The 100% vaxxed only cruises that have ended up with COVID positive passengers...here's one: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/13/27-vaccinated-people-test-positive-for-covid-on-a-carnival-cruise-ship.html
Highly vaxxed countries with higher covid cases. https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/05/11/covid-surges-in-4-of-5-worlds-most-vaccinated-countries-heres-why-the-us-should-worry/?sh=5b9dc31ad677
That's just a couple of examples.
Funny how she goes off on you about no proof for your therapeutics while the jab keeps getting it’s longevity shortened. They are experimental after all so there is no proof of their effectiveness. You cannot prove a jab prevented anything at all anymore than you can prove that garlic you hang on your neck keeps vampires away.
Well no vampire has got me yet!
in my day we would hang an onion on our belt cause it was the style at the time. And out nickels had bees on em.
KEK Nice reference Abe.
Glad to hear it, sadly a vampire got me. I'm still really glad I had that garlic, or he would've sucked out 67% more of my blood!
This is how you know you drew a dud when it came to a choice in doctors, I would be heading out the door at that point rather than going over the nonsense she was saying at you.
Honestly, 12 months since the clot shot was available, and to not know of the terrible side affects, deaths and risks of this for someone actually in the medical profession is inexcusable. Doctors shouldn't be the most uninformed people in the entire world when it comes to medicine!
My last doctor left without notice a couple years ago, and this was another in the practice. I haven't liked her from the start, but after this, I'm done. She was just about yelling at me. I'm the one that said I could continue on with more facts but the bottom line is that it's my body and I wil not get jabbed.
They seem to forget that you are paying them for a service. You have the ultimate say over your body.
I think they’re in on it just for the money. They play the game, they’ve made a pact with the devil and they violated their Hippocratic oath. FIRST DO NO HARM! They have an obligation to research and learn what is best for the patient. Nobody should make excuses for them failing to do this. We have learned. You can’t tell me they can’t search the interwebz for some info and surely, they have conferences on this stuff.
I've needed eye surgery for a couple of years and have been putting it off because no way will I take the jab. Had an appointment with an eye surgeon to discuss it, and knew I was in the right place when she came in with her mask down. The surgery center requires a covid test, but I can get the kit at a pharmacy and won't be shoving it up to my brain. She told to just twirl the swab barely into my nostril. Her practice has obviously decided on doing as little as possible on the testing. Enough to be legal but not enough to cause harm.
Well done!
I got a call from my surgery months ago telling me to come and get it, gave them an earful. Got another recently telling me to get the flu jab, which I've never had. NO, thank you - goodbye. They are dedicated Big Pharma distributors, wonder how much they make out of pushing vaccines and tests. Sickening.
Its all it is, pill and vaxx pushers, its almost like legal drug trafficking!
Plus they give it to you free at the beginning, just like drug dealers.
So true.
Not almost. That's exactly what it is.
From what I've seen they make quite a lot. Not to mention the other perks, like free vacations, tickets to events and more.
Those free vacations and such are loopholes built into the system. They are a way for the drug companies to bribe doctors into prescribing their drugs. Legalized bribery. The vacations are usually outside of the country also. I’m sure they get to skirt other regulations by doing that also.
In Australia doc loses his license if he gives you anything other than the deep state pro jab narrative and they make $90 per jab I believe.
"Couldn't care less."
What are DO’s and ND’s? I don’t trust MD’s anymore either
DOs are doctors of osteopathic medicine. Not sure what NDs are.
DOs take on a much more holistic approach to treatment. They’re just as qualified as a reg doctor tho.
Thank you!
Most welcome!
NDs are Naturopathic Doctors
Ahh ty
Thank you!
DO is a Doctor of Osteopathy, ND is a Naturopathic Doctor
Thank you
You might consider a Chiropractor as well.
Naturopathic doctors and Doctors it Osteopathy.
Agreed
Way to go, pede! That was some data dump! We're proud of you, fren.
One of the craziest things she said was in response to my saying about the 75+ dead athletes in Europe. She had no concern or shock at that number but simply said, well are athletes dying in the US? I said I didn't know, but this was an alarming number. Her response was, well maybe their vax is causing issues but not ours. She actually admitted that this might be due to the jab but it was OK if Europeans died as long as it wasn't happening here.
The part they're willfully ignoring is the fact that if you add up all of the deaths that have occurred with every prior vaccine combined, they don't even come close to the number of people that have died from the COVID jabs.
And since she hadn't brought it up at previous appts, I wasn't completely prepared as I usually am. But I was amazed at how much stuff rolled out of this boomer brain.
I've had it brought up four times between two doctors. I've shut them down pretty effectively each time -- have even gotten them to agree with me on certain points. Ultimately, I leave them with no viable counter-arguments, so they just quietly give up. (Truthfully, I think I scare them.) Kek!
Most of these pro-vax doctors aren't evil, they're just ignorant. My daughter-in-law is an OB-GYN and she said it amazed her how many MDs are just dumb. They don't take the time to do their own research, they simply repeat or do what the FDA and CDC say. Btw, my D-I-L isn't vaxxed and has been advising her pregnant patients to avoid the vax since day one.
I have a pharmacist in the family and have given them a lot of shit that I apparently know far more about Ivermectin, Redesmvir, and the jabs than they do despite it being their job. At some point you have to stop giving them excuses and call them out for being enablers of medical fascism.
Many people just take a job for the sake of a job - they don't necessarily have passion for it to dig deep. That's not an excuse - it's reality.
Many people just take a jab for the sake of a job. Kek.
That's also true.
Its funny. My doctors office made special accommodations for me immediately. I let them know last year how disappointing it was to watch people who were supposed to be the stewards of health walk around all day with different objects over their breathing holes. I told them I questioned if they knew what they were doing or just following mindless orders. Basically they said following orders. They asked me to wait in the waiting room foyer away from other patients, but allowed me to walk thru to my screening room without masks. I realized quick that they really have no clue what they are doing and just follow orders and push whatever Pharma their doctor or hospital get kickbacks on.
Good for you! It isn’t easy going up against doctors. Terrible listeners, condescending and always think they’re right. They need to hear this and it’s difficult to get them cornered unless you’re in an appt. You have a good set on you.
Boobs you mean?
Lol whatever, well done
What they hate is that you don’t comply,
And that you are more informed than her but with a lot less dept and pride
I went in last week for a routine checkup. Doctor refused to see me maskless and I refused to see him masked.
Quickest doctors appointment I've ever had.
Therapeutics don’t work? That’s a surprise to the entire continent of Africa, Mexico, India, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland and others that use HQZ, Zinc, Vit C&D and Ivermectin that are shown to work quite effectively
And this MD claims to be current on the state of treatment? This is a medical hack. He is still using a protocol that was out in place 2 months BEFORE COVID came to the US and is ignoring any advances made in medical science in the last 2 years
Why do other countries that should be inferior to the US in medical science; so far exceed us? Because we are lazy and corrupt
I literally lolled at the title of this post! The doctor walked out! Good for you hahaha.
I've been there and done that more times than I can count with "doctors" over the past 20 years and am now Blessed, as a result, with a crack team of Doctors who are actually GOOD. It's been a grueling, financially burdening journey for me - I hope part of this Great Awakening is everyone being able to achieve the same results I have in a much more truncated timeline.
Embrace that feeling of "being rattled". Remember, SHE walked out, not you. Next time it's easier, and each subsequent time it happens (you make sure it happens whenever it needs to!) that feeling is replaced with indignation that is calmer, and more and more righteous.
Glad to have you on the team. 👍
Yeah, I’m nice but on this Covid crap, I’m not the one lol
The “checkups” are intended to find anything they can think of to treat with “medicine”… change my mind.
We pay our doctors for their services, they act like they own us. I stopped trusting Doctors long ago when one kept putting his crotch on my knee while supposedly looking in my ears and eyes when I was a teen. I kept moving he kept doing it.
As an adult after the birth of my daughter, I've been to the doctor for strep throat, a horrible cut in my foot that needed stitches because I nearly lost my toe, and five years ago I had an abcess and needed antibiotics.
I personally know of two people here in my town that died from doctor's negligence and laziness. My dad had many issues due to medical mistreatment by nurses and doctors, my mother had a heart attack due to medical negligence the list could go on.
I've learned many natural treatments since then.
You're now on their list of subversives.
I went off on my doctor about masks. She said she liked wearing it.
Lost all respect for her. She is no longer my doctor
"but you're on a respirator! the most logical thing to do is give you an injection that's known to make you sick!"
the stupidity of these people is baffling.
It's not stupidity, that's the real problem. They know what they're doing.
I did the same back in May! She told me to "just get it so we can put this all behind us". Instead I walked out and put her that health system behind me.
What are you going for a check up for? Online lab companies are there to order all the tests you want. Unless I'm getting a procedure done or am injured, I don't cross paths with these witch doctors.
Unfortunately I need a controlled substance to help with sleep and I must have a new Rx every six months. I also have to have lab work done to comply with my county govt job in order to get my health insurance and a couple of paper forms she must physically sign off on. I actually need to have a physical waist measurement taken in order to comply with my work. Last year they wouldn't accept it until I went back to the doc and had my waist measurement taken.
I suffered from ptsd induced insomnia for years; try a Phillips blue light. It really helps. Our son has sensory issues linked to his disability and we also play a homedics sound machine that plays ocean sounds, thunderstorms, calming sounds. We have a plug in with aromatherapy that lightly provides fragrance. It’s whatever scent you like. Also, listing to 432hz meditation or sleep inducing music is very valuable. Hope this helps fren.
Ah. That's messed up. They like to hold prescriptions over you. Ironically health insurance won't pay for things that actually work. There's probably a solution for your sleep problems a functional doctor would find. But they can be so expensive, and all your money is tied up in mainstream medical insurance. I have a holistic clinic that takes insurance, but sees my unvaxed kids. It's a nice compromise.
Have you tried Melatonin tablets? Have found they help you get deeper more rested sleep.
There is now a medical record that you are a refusenik.
Expect to hear more from The Gubbmint about how they want to help you with your decision.
To clarify, I still think you did well and did good.
These folks need a giant force feeding of the truth. Doctors in many ways are the worst. They think they are gods amongst men. When in reality, these days, they are "errand boys sent by grocery clerks to serve a bill".
Those Emperors have absolutely no clothes at all, to jump metaphors.
I just recently had my full physical and my doctor asked me the same. I said I wasn't planning on getting it and he said I'm probably fine without it due to my health.
More explaining than I would have done. After I say no, I may feel benevolent and say no again. If I have to say no a third time, you're not going to like the way I say it.
Good for you Fren!! Stay strong!! Using THEIR own data... there are many more than what VAERS is reporting see article: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-cdc-injuries-covid-vaccines-fda-pfizer-moderna-bosters/
I even said that only about 10-20% of actual numbers show up on VAERS.
And even those percentages are generous. More like 1%-10%.
I'm with ya...just more fuel fren.
Your doctor just violated one of the rules of patient care. Doctors can only fully inform patients of choices and consequences , but only patients can fully decide how to proceed.
Your doctor did neither . She did not inform herself nor you of the potential harm of getting the death shot, and was forcing you to take it.
Fire your doctor. There are better ones. You did great !
Time to go shopping for a new doctor. This scamdemic is too much!
Speaking of the database......Has anyone filled out new patient forms at Drs office and notice a question about if you own a firearm? I saw this question when I as copying some medical records for my son in law. He declined to answer, but on the record it said he "refused to answer". The is in Oklahoma.
Yep, my doctors office asked that questioned as well. I left it blank. The didn’t say anything about it.
I leave almost everything blank lol
Never be ashamed of what you know. They should be ashamed of their ignorance.
Doesn't it feel GREAT????
Awesome! One of the best posts I've read on here in a while. Kudos and congrats.
Drop the Rhode Island numbers that Bongino had on his podcast yesterday. Previously infected/natural immunity doing far better as a group.
Rhode Island
1,470 hospitalizations 8.4 per 100k previously infected 61.5 per 100k vaccinated 248 per 100k not fully vaccinated
Deaths 0.8 per 100k previously infected 8.5 per 100k deaths fully vaccinated 20 per 100k not fully vaccinated
nice work!
Doctors will be speaking with the FBI soon, to have you labeled a domestic terrorist!
Doctors will be facing the consequences from all angles if they did wrong soon…
Yeah, following the conversation with my Doctor, he became belligerent and I told him to leave the room. He yelled out that I was spreading disinformation... For real! I told him to shut up and get out. I left... told the nurse he was an self important prick.
I guess we got a bit heated....