Find as many like minded people in the company and communicate via private telegram group. Then do a class action.
That's my intention right now. We had 400 people quit/retire in past few months. The remaining are doing exemptions. Some others are waiting to see them play there hand. Others took vaccine. Some having issues are going to be part of our suit.
Upload a copy of the injunction stopping Biden’s mandates for healthcare workers, dementia brain can tell employers to keep his mandates, but it’s not legal. Employer will be on the hook, financially. Also upload the latest info from the American Heart Association and the Pfizer documents recently released through a FOIA. Let them fire you.
Yep we are putting together a class action. Start private telegram group with like minded employees. Also ones suckered into vax having issues. If they die or have medical issues it will help your suit.
If they die from vax get closest blood relatives to get on board too.
might be a good idea to put together a group for anyone facing these issues. I think there's a law firm bringing lawsuits, might see if they have a telegram group...
Also: the "OR what" argument. IF you don't respond: it is popcorn worthy to see them doubling down and u-turning while rotating on your symbolic middle finger.
Be careful. Don’t leave cash in the bank. Get it into physical precious metals immediately. Your cash will deflate to worthless and the risk is a bank holiday where they lock you out of your account so you spending your money does not “contribute” to the inflation. By the time you get access your savings are worthless
Ensure you send HR a copy of the recent federal ruling that states the current vaccines are all under EUA and not approved vaccines. File an exemption letter, make sure both are signed for and you can prove receipt in a court of law. Make them fire you, don't quit, and save any correspondence telling you why you are being fired related to the vaccination. Good luck
I'm in the same boat as OP (different dates). I say: Fuck their accommodation! Go that route and the "next time" they won't "offer" and "accommodation".
me too! moved over labor day. has been a great experience so far.
little towns can have their quirks so it's good to pick one near a bigger town just in case you move to one that is a little standoffish at first.
I moved over labor day too! It's been so great my kids had Halloween parties at school instead of "harvest" parties where they weren't allowed to dress up. My friends back in CA are stressing about their kids being vaccinated at school and I'm over here like that's still a thing?
The OSHA ETS has been stayed in the courts. If they're using OSHA as their force behind the deadline they have nothing. Read under litigation here https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2
Best of luck, my fren
My bosses and I have a very friendly and open relationship - in that I am free to speak my mind. I work for NASA, I'm one of the Sr. Engineers and bluntly informed my bosses that they would be forced to fire me, as I refuse to comply with the vaccine. I unemotionally told them my rationale, why I thought what I thought, and that I was not the Gov't Livestock that they could stick with a needle as they saw fit. I told them point blank I will die on this hill, to me it's a matter of principle and there is no room for negotiations. I am either free; or I am livestock.
My bosses, as I have 3 Directors I report to, have all been vaccinated, and were unaware of the information I had presented. Perhaps they would have refused to have been vaccinated if they had the information I presented, before they made their choice - I do not know, and I cannot say. But, they all supported my right to make my decision.
I have received an offer from a Gov't contractor, that will provide me a small raise, doing the same job, for the same group, in the same chair, reporting to the same group. As I will be a Fed. Contractor, my Religious and Medical exemptions fall under a different set of rules - so in my case; my bosses bent over backwards to support me.
I pray that many others of you will be blessed with good, patriotic and God fearing men, such as those who manage my group- who respect your right to chose for yourself.
The tech isn’t gone. Kepler’s laws still stand. NASA is now quite political and risk adverse. We dare little. A single loss of vehicle can shut down the entire program
Artemis 1 will be unmanned and swing out around the moon, the furthest we have ever gone out from earth - as a demonstration of what the SLS platform can do
I would inform them I am invoking my right of religious exemption under Title XII of Civil Rights Act of 1964 and request an accommodation per their legal duty to provide it.
Yes, this! My husband and daughter both got exemption requests approved using that tactic. Also remind them that you have an expectation to not be bound by a work requirement that alters your genetics permanently, preventing you from going back to normal during off work hours.
If your request for religious exemption at your WORK has been DENIED, or APPROVED WITH UNPAID LEAVE, you will need to file a Complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). Go the EEOC website at https://EEOC.gov and scroll to the bottom of the page where you will find additional links and information about submitting a complaint. The Complaint form will need to include a description of your religious accommodation request regarding your sincerely held religious beliefs to not take these COVID shots along with the employer’s response and the termination date. Please note that you generally have 180 DAYS to file a complaint against a private employer.
Federal Employees: Please note that Federal employees have different requirements and shorter deadlines (see https://www.eeoc.gov/federal-sector/overview-federal-sector-eeo-complaint-process (“Generally, you must contact the EEO Counselor within 45 DAYS from the day the discrimination occurred.”).
State and Local Agencies: States also have agencies that receive complaints, and you may be able to dual file to have both federal and state rights considered, which we strongly recommend. See, https://www.eeoc.gov/filing-charge-discrimination (scroll to heading “With a State or Local Agency).
If filing with a state or local agency, please make sure that your complaint has been dually filed with the EEOC. If it has not, you may need to file with both agencies. Please note that filing with one agency may not extend the deadline for filing with another agency.
NOTE: Filing the EEOC Complaint is required before you can file suit alleging a violation of federal law. This administrative process is the next step you should complete. The EEOC may (1) choose to attempt resolution of your Complaint with your employer, (2) file suit against your employer, or (3) issue you a “right to sue” letter that clears the way for you to file suit. If you receive a “right to sue” letter, you can contact us to review the matter or seek private counsel. Until we review the facts of each case, we are not able to determine ahead of time whether we would be able to represent you.
nothing wrong with leaving to reside with like minded people. alot of people are moving to states that either honor or defy the constitution -- based on their desire to live free or not.
Best of luck to you and prayers you find your way.
We passed ours on the 22nd of last month. Everything was going normally until one dude in the shop came back, didnt sign the acknowledgement of the 22nd letter, and didnt do status on DS.GOV .. Shit hit the storm on Masks & testing for everyone
upload something and the bureaucrat will check a box. A person may not even look at it, they may just look for a file to be present. Do not upload something false.
my girlfriend went to take the J&J today or else she would be put on unpaid leave. Nothing we can do. Religious exemption was denied. Can't even appeal it. Can't afford to lose her job. Went to a lawyer who basically told us we were shit out of luck.
Im still unvaxd but it just makes me so angry and upset that they can target people like this.
Inform them that you tried but you’re waiting for the FDA approved Cominarity vaccine to be available. If it’s a condition of employment then they should provide it for you.
Inform them that HEK293 was.involved in the R&D all all the vaccines. They must give you a religious exception or get sued for violating your 1st and 14th amendment rights.
Even if your company states that they will not provide an accommodation I feel you should still push because the Civil Rights Act Title VII, First Amendment and the EEOC COVID Guidelines are on your side as am American citizen.
The burden is on the employer to prove that giving you an accommodation would cause them an undue hardship. If you are only asking for small changes (no vax, willing to wear masks, etc) or de minimis accommodations the company has to try extra hard to say that they can't honor it.
At the very least consult with an employment attorney.
Also, if someone is vaccine injured there is a chance they can receive worker's comp even if the company says no. (https://www.sedgwick.com/blog/2021/09/09/vaccine-implications-in-workers-compensation)
Larson’s Workers’ Compensation treatise, which is widely cited across
the country in workers’ compensation matters, observes that:
"When inoculation is occasioned by the particular conditions of
employment, injury resulting from the inoculation should be
deemed to have occurred in the course of employment. If there is
an element of actual compulsion emanating from the employer, the
work connection is beyond question, as when the company requires
the employee to submit to vaccination by the company's doctor
as soon as the employee is hired, or during an epidemic tells the
workers that unless they are vaccinated they cannot work until the
epidemic is over. By equal logic, just as an employee on an overseas
assignment is entitled to associate the contraction of malaria or polio
or tuberculosis with the nature of the work, so any harm stemming
from inoculations undertaken to protect against the risks of overseas
diseases, whether the inoculations were strictly required or not,
should be viewed as flowing directly from the employment."
Upload a copy of the Constitution. :>)
That way, you have responded.
And HIPAA, and Nuremberg code
And link them to this.
And my axe.
Now that's Damn funny, missed by most I think! Kek!
And my bow!
..and a XEROX copy of my ass.
Back in the 80s, a certain coworker, when annoyed, would send "the bird" via a photocopy. :)
“A certain coworker” ☝🏼😂
Okay, his first name was Terry, but that's all I'll tell you. He was an asshole sometimes.
And a cease and desist letter from an attorney.
I sent a picture of the American flag, haven't heard back from them since.
THIS^
Find as many like minded people in the company and communicate via private telegram group. Then do a class action.
That's my intention right now. We had 400 people quit/retire in past few months. The remaining are doing exemptions. Some others are waiting to see them play there hand. Others took vaccine. Some having issues are going to be part of our suit.
Look into filing an injunction. Now that there’s a nationwide injunction for healthcare workers, the precedent has been set and the doors are open.
Upload a copy of the injunction stopping Biden’s mandates for healthcare workers, dementia brain can tell employers to keep his mandates, but it’s not legal. Employer will be on the hook, financially. Also upload the latest info from the American Heart Association and the Pfizer documents recently released through a FOIA. Let them fire you.
The Federal Contractor date was pushed out til Jan 4th. I am in the same boat.
Don't quit though. Make them fire you. Or look at this guy
https://greatawakening.win/p/140JFUWWGG/using-common-law-against-company/
Yep we are putting together a class action. Start private telegram group with like minded employees. Also ones suckered into vax having issues. If they die or have medical issues it will help your suit.
If they die from vax get closest blood relatives to get on board too.
might be a good idea to put together a group for anyone facing these issues. I think there's a law firm bringing lawsuits, might see if they have a telegram group...
The main reason to string them along until the deadline comes is because they often extend the deadline only at the last minute.
And they are scared shitless because of their work force’s response. They think they have serfs.
Also: the "OR what" argument. IF you don't respond: it is popcorn worthy to see them doubling down and u-turning while rotating on your symbolic middle finger.
I've linked this to a few people, OP included. It's a good strategy.
https://files.catbox.moe/o5uxkr.png
Be careful. Don’t leave cash in the bank. Get it into physical precious metals immediately. Your cash will deflate to worthless and the risk is a bank holiday where they lock you out of your account so you spending your money does not “contribute” to the inflation. By the time you get access your savings are worthless
Ensure you send HR a copy of the recent federal ruling that states the current vaccines are all under EUA and not approved vaccines. File an exemption letter, make sure both are signed for and you can prove receipt in a court of law. Make them fire you, don't quit, and save any correspondence telling you why you are being fired related to the vaccination. Good luck
Send them a picture of your anus with the word "no." in comic sans over it instead.
Make sure they can't prove it is your anus.
Do you have a good anus identification altering photoshop artist you'd recommend? Asking for a friend..
bro i am a pro at masking buttholes bro hit me up
LMAO!!!! You guys are killing me..
PLENTY of Anus pics on the interwebs fren... (I heard...)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeEdkdUX0AIBYQ_.jpg
I'm certain the boss tastes, smells and knows it well so it would be hard disguise it.
Boss: this is your FINAL warning!
You: awesome, i was getting so tired of all those warnings!
Think about all you just said. I was "lucky enough to be permitted to keep my freedom"
"Comply or apply for a chance to keep your job"
I'm in the same boat as OP (different dates). I say: Fuck their accommodation! Go that route and the "next time" they won't "offer" and "accommodation".
Do it! I never thought I would leave California but being in a red state now for 3 months makes me never want to move back.
me too! moved over labor day. has been a great experience so far. little towns can have their quirks so it's good to pick one near a bigger town just in case you move to one that is a little standoffish at first.
I moved over labor day too! It's been so great my kids had Halloween parties at school instead of "harvest" parties where they weren't allowed to dress up. My friends back in CA are stressing about their kids being vaccinated at school and I'm over here like that's still a thing?
awesome! we are so happy here. just seems like i was surrounded by insanity.
I'm completely agree! 4th gen Californian. Its time to go.
The OSHA ETS has been stayed in the courts. If they're using OSHA as their force behind the deadline they have nothing. Read under litigation here https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2
Come to Florida fren. We would be happy to have you.
Our awesome Governor is even giving signing bonuses for police to transfer here from out of state.
we left the PNW and haven't looked back. haven't been this happy and relaxed in years.
Best of luck, my fren My bosses and I have a very friendly and open relationship - in that I am free to speak my mind. I work for NASA, I'm one of the Sr. Engineers and bluntly informed my bosses that they would be forced to fire me, as I refuse to comply with the vaccine. I unemotionally told them my rationale, why I thought what I thought, and that I was not the Gov't Livestock that they could stick with a needle as they saw fit. I told them point blank I will die on this hill, to me it's a matter of principle and there is no room for negotiations. I am either free; or I am livestock.
My bosses, as I have 3 Directors I report to, have all been vaccinated, and were unaware of the information I had presented. Perhaps they would have refused to have been vaccinated if they had the information I presented, before they made their choice - I do not know, and I cannot say. But, they all supported my right to make my decision.
I have received an offer from a Gov't contractor, that will provide me a small raise, doing the same job, for the same group, in the same chair, reporting to the same group. As I will be a Fed. Contractor, my Religious and Medical exemptions fall under a different set of rules - so in my case; my bosses bent over backwards to support me.
I pray that many others of you will be blessed with good, patriotic and God fearing men, such as those who manage my group- who respect your right to chose for yourself.
The tech isn’t gone. Kepler’s laws still stand. NASA is now quite political and risk adverse. We dare little. A single loss of vehicle can shut down the entire program
Artemis 1 will be unmanned and swing out around the moon, the furthest we have ever gone out from earth - as a demonstration of what the SLS platform can do
Now using Hydrogen and Oxygen
You're welcome in Texas!
The fight has come to me as well... It's time to make our stand and make these evil bastards pay.
I would inform them I am invoking my right of religious exemption under Title XII of Civil Rights Act of 1964 and request an accommodation per their legal duty to provide it.
Yes, this! My husband and daughter both got exemption requests approved using that tactic. Also remind them that you have an expectation to not be bound by a work requirement that alters your genetics permanently, preventing you from going back to normal during off work hours.
https://lc.org/exempt#denied
FILE EEOC Complaint
If your request for religious exemption at your WORK has been DENIED, or APPROVED WITH UNPAID LEAVE, you will need to file a Complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). Go the EEOC website at https://EEOC.gov and scroll to the bottom of the page where you will find additional links and information about submitting a complaint. The Complaint form will need to include a description of your religious accommodation request regarding your sincerely held religious beliefs to not take these COVID shots along with the employer’s response and the termination date. Please note that you generally have 180 DAYS to file a complaint against a private employer. Federal Employees: Please note that Federal employees have different requirements and shorter deadlines (see https://www.eeoc.gov/federal-sector/overview-federal-sector-eeo-complaint-process (“Generally, you must contact the EEO Counselor within 45 DAYS from the day the discrimination occurred.”). State and Local Agencies: States also have agencies that receive complaints, and you may be able to dual file to have both federal and state rights considered, which we strongly recommend. See, https://www.eeoc.gov/filing-charge-discrimination (scroll to heading “With a State or Local Agency). If filing with a state or local agency, please make sure that your complaint has been dually filed with the EEOC. If it has not, you may need to file with both agencies. Please note that filing with one agency may not extend the deadline for filing with another agency.
NOTE: Filing the EEOC Complaint is required before you can file suit alleging a violation of federal law. This administrative process is the next step you should complete. The EEOC may (1) choose to attempt resolution of your Complaint with your employer, (2) file suit against your employer, or (3) issue you a “right to sue” letter that clears the way for you to file suit. If you receive a “right to sue” letter, you can contact us to review the matter or seek private counsel. Until we review the facts of each case, we are not able to determine ahead of time whether we would be able to represent you.
upload one penis drawing over schwab and fauci face
nothing wrong with leaving to reside with like minded people. alot of people are moving to states that either honor or defy the constitution -- based on their desire to live free or not.
Best of luck to you and prayers you find your way.
We passed ours on the 22nd of last month. Everything was going normally until one dude in the shop came back, didnt sign the acknowledgement of the 22nd letter, and didnt do status on DS.GOV .. Shit hit the storm on Masks & testing for everyone
https://greatawakening.win/p/140JFUWWGG/using-common-law-against-company/
upload something and the bureaucrat will check a box. A person may not even look at it, they may just look for a file to be present. Do not upload something false.
my girlfriend went to take the J&J today or else she would be put on unpaid leave. Nothing we can do. Religious exemption was denied. Can't even appeal it. Can't afford to lose her job. Went to a lawyer who basically told us we were shit out of luck.
Im still unvaxd but it just makes me so angry and upset that they can target people like this.
Huh. What a coincidence. I got a warning today too. Decided to move out of California as well.
Inform them that you tried but you’re waiting for the FDA approved Cominarity vaccine to be available. If it’s a condition of employment then they should provide it for you.
I know it's a youturd link and it's not needed here. Sorry frens. This mite help.
https://youtu.be/8jsyzCwm1uU
Inform them that HEK293 was.involved in the R&D all all the vaccines. They must give you a religious exception or get sued for violating your 1st and 14th amendment rights.
https://thomasmoresociety.org/covid-19-employer-vaccine-mandate-responses-know-your-rights-for-religious-exemption-accommodation/
Covid-19 Employer Vaccine Mandate Responses: Know Your Rights for Religious Exemption/ Accommodation
Ignore it. let them fire you over it.
Have you checked out the Commoner Law Group? commonerlaw.com
Even if your company states that they will not provide an accommodation I feel you should still push because the Civil Rights Act Title VII, First Amendment and the EEOC COVID Guidelines are on your side as am American citizen.
Helpful resources: https://www.eeoc.gov/wysk/what-you-should-know-about-covid-19-and-ada-rehabilitation-act-and-other-eeo-laws https://thomasmoresociety.org/vaccine-legal-help/ https://lc.org/exempt
The burden is on the employer to prove that giving you an accommodation would cause them an undue hardship. If you are only asking for small changes (no vax, willing to wear masks, etc) or de minimis accommodations the company has to try extra hard to say that they can't honor it.
At the very least consult with an employment attorney.
Also, if someone is vaccine injured there is a chance they can receive worker's comp even if the company says no. (https://www.sedgwick.com/blog/2021/09/09/vaccine-implications-in-workers-compensation) Larson’s Workers’ Compensation treatise, which is widely cited across the country in workers’ compensation matters, observes that: "When inoculation is occasioned by the particular conditions of employment, injury resulting from the inoculation should be deemed to have occurred in the course of employment. If there is an element of actual compulsion emanating from the employer, the work connection is beyond question, as when the company requires the employee to submit to vaccination by the company's doctor as soon as the employee is hired, or during an epidemic tells the workers that unless they are vaccinated they cannot work until the epidemic is over. By equal logic, just as an employee on an overseas assignment is entitled to associate the contraction of malaria or polio or tuberculosis with the nature of the work, so any harm stemming from inoculations undertaken to protect against the risks of overseas diseases, whether the inoculations were strictly required or not, should be viewed as flowing directly from the employment."
Hope this helps.
Ya think? It was already WAY past time to leave that sh*t hole long ago.