I'll pass on viewing it. Someone else has better mental fortitude, better ability to hide their identity and a stronger stomach to summarize it for the rest of us.
No it couldn’t. Because then the prosecution aka the government would be forced to admit in court that the images are authentic. You could plaster the images on billboards and ain’t shit gonna happen.
yup. No one wants that crap on their computer, But in the eyes of the law if you have a video of hunter diddling a child that was in a hard drive image of hunters computer, you are worse then hunter.........
Huge Catch-22...you don't want to remain completely ignorant but also don't want to traumatize yourself or go to jail and be branded for life as an ex-con sex offender for conducting research on the real sex offenders.
That's why I say it shouldn't be a crime to 'download' anything from the internet. They've gone too far in calling that action a 'crime.' if you didn't have any participation in any crimes and never re-uploaded 'bad' content back up to the internet..then you shouldn't be charged with any crime. PERIOD.
I err on the side of freedom.
I’ve never considered that argument, but I think it has solid grounding.
I also err on the side of freedom, but it does pain me to think of how some may escape any worldly justice because all they did was download “something.”
If we had much more aggressive prosecution and harsher punishment for uploaders, this might work.
In any case, interesting perspective, thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Something to think about.
Anyone truly educated on takedowns knows you go after the suppliers, then the distributors.
Going after the consumers is an almost entirely non-viable strategy.
That said, it's a tough subject to broach because when they're viewing children.. ehhh it's stomach turning.
The worst is that it seems they go after children who ended up stupidly taking pictures when they were young and then having them resurface later after they're an adult (so a victimless crime) harder than going after, say, Epstein Island consumers?
Really weird fucking world we live in right now. Really fucking weird.
Normally I'd also err on the side of freedom but the thought of viewing the indiscretions from just an information perspective is extremely off-putting to me.
Some people did that with Pizzagate investigations and they were depressed for months and IIRC didn't want to keep digging for a while.
I will say though that downloading as a crime is.. really sketchy from a freedom perspective, and a better handle should be on the people actually producing or disseminating.
Goes for all things, like piracy for games and movies too. Better availability, fairer pricing goes a long way on that front vs just trying to oppressively stop it on the consumer front. Taking down aggregates and such would be a better use of resources.
Exactly...because WHERE DOES THE ACTUAL 'CRIME' END??
If NO party was injured by my 'downloading' of (put anything here) then I have committed no crime. If, for instance, I re-upload or share what I've downloaded then that could be considered a contribution to a previous crime (although a very minor contribution).. but something nonetheless.
Simply 'having' something on your computer should never be a crime in itself. If the 'law' thinks someone committed a crime to obtain (illegal material here) then they need to prove that in a court of law. If someone paid for (illegal material here) then of course THAT could be considered a contribution to the crime.
Otherwise, simply 'having' something ON you computer without actually knowing HOW it got there is really no crime. IMHO
Let's say for instance some knucklehead posted a naked picture of a child on Twitter and before Twitter got around to removing it, it was downloaded by 30,000 people.
Should we ran-sack the homes of 30,000 people and haul them all in for pedophilia and put them all on the pedophile list?
Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's just one example of why just 'having' something 'bad' on your own private computer shouldn't be a crime just in itself.
'Buying' is contributing to the crime. I'm only talking about downloading free from the internet. Nothing more. Although buying should be a crime and the person 'fined' I still down think that person should be slammed with the title a 'pedophile'.
I'll give you another example. Let's say you purchased a used computer from someone and you later find out that there's tons of child porn on it. You call your local police to tell them that whoever sold you your computer had this stuff on it when you bought it. Well, by 'their definition' you BOTH have committed a crime. You are guilty of just 'having' it on your computer regardless of how it got there.
In their eyes you're guilty until you prove to them that you weren't buying that computer FOR the actual child porn on it. Get what I'm saying.
If you follow the constitutional laws, you should be innocent and they would need to prove that you bought it 'for' the child porn on it. The way our system is set up now it doesn't protect the citizen's rights on this subject. In my opinion, they've gone overboard on what is actually a crime and what participation of that crime is, if any at all.
Even just the download, not just the actual purpose, is what drives the continued creation of more sexual child abuse. The reason even just possession of such material is a big deal is because any viewing of such material also continues the abuse of the children originally depicted in the digital media. It's not only the original act of sexual abuse against children we're worried about, but also the continued exploitation of that child as the media is passed around. And since being in possession of such digital media continues the exploitation of the child, we decide to criminalize such acts.
I don't believe that downloading 'drives' child abuse. Where did you come up with this idea? Well, you need to PROVE this in a court of law that what a 'down-loader' did (on his own) caused any harm to anyone..to even make that a crime.
The person(s) 'passing' them around are the guilty, NOT anyone who can freely download.
"And since being in possession of such digital media continues the exploitation of the child, we decide to criminalize such acts." Here you are using your own assumption to prove itself.
It's basically economics, supply and demand. There's a demand for such material. Plenty of people pay literally money for the child abuse media. There may not always be direct links of payments for the media, Bitcoin is used frequently which is incredibly hard to truly trace a single direct purchase to some entities who are probably outside the jurisdiction of the United States. Even if not every bit of child sexual abuse media is purchased, as a whole there is a "market" for such material across the dark web or wherever, so the "market" will adjust and create the supply to meet the demand. People consuming this illegal and abhorrent material drive the need for a supply to exist. So the legislation goes after people who just consume, not necessarily distribute, because the market to consume this stuff in the end drives the actual physical abuse that is necessary to create new sources of child sexual abuse footage. The demand for consumption of any type of "product" will generally simultaneously create a system to somehow supply that demand.
I understand what you're saying..but they need to prove the guilt instead of assuming you're guilty first.
Like I said before, if you did not contribute to any of the child porn stuff then you shouldn't be charged with a crime just BECAUSE it happens to be on your computer that ANYONE can freely download. They still need to prove in a court of law how a specific person contributed to said crime. I really don't care what you download..it could be anything. Just using this because its the topic.
IF YOU DID NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE MAKING, FILMING, DISTRIBUTION, SHARING, ETC then you shouldn't be labelled a criminal.
THEY NEED TO PROVE YOU'RE GUILTY OF HARM. IN A CONSTITUTIONAL COURT OF LAW THAT WOULD BE VERY DAMN HARD TO DO.
In our kangaroo courts..you're guilty until proven innocent. Look at theJ6ers. That's not freedom.
They can run their forums however they want. There is just a lot of hype sometimes over things that turn out to be nothing and I think we need to be more skeptical of these big claims.
You know, one thing I don’t understand is, why did Hunter take so many stupid pictures of himself knowing that if they were leaked he could get everybody in trouble?? Who was he planning to show them off to??
It was a keep your chin up comment. Not about not doing anything to change the world we are living in. Keep on keeping on its all we can do means keep putting one foot in front of the other and don't give in to despair. It's a loaded sentence.
No. I mean, it's on here somewhere and was all the rage for a couple days two or three weeks back. I'm horrible at searching for older posts though. I can't even think of the dude's name who had the info. If I can find it I'll provide the alfredo.
Edit:
I found this post on The Donald. Posts in the same vein were posted all over GAW in the same timeframe but I'm awful with the search bar (or the search bar is awful ;)).
Nearly every single politician is compromised. Same goes for company CEOs, judges, municipal officials, you name it. They are in their positions precisely because they are compromised. This is what allows the cabal to control everything.
We should not be confused when people we "elect", which is fake as we now know, do things against the people's will. They were not elected by our will. They were placed by the cabal.
When the cabal calls, they do what the cabal says, or their career and life is over.
The cabal could end Joe at any time. They could end kamala anytime. Pelosi anytime. All of them.
As long as their useful idiots do as they say, they remain in place. As soon as they don't they are removed and swapped out.
This has all the signs of putting it out so people will click to read it, but as time goes by then less and less people will click on it, boring of the topic. Once the real stuff comes out, people are so exhausted of the topic, they have stopped clicking on it. Then the real stuff is buried and people are OK with it because they are tired of it.
There is a lot of truth to what you are saying. It's why the media has admitted the laptop is real after 2 years. But it's a controlled release. No one is talking about what is in the laptop, only that it is real.
Does anyone else find it weird that the size of the evidence keeps growing? Guiliani posted the type of laptop a while ago and it had a 256GB hard drive, how are there suddenly 450 gb of data here when there was more than 300 in the last post? Hard drives don't work like that, you copy over things.
I vaguely remember hearing something about there being "highlight reels" of certain politicians' sex crimes. I wonder if they share these. I wonder if Hunter had frazzled.rip (you never know, maybe before it was known that he couldn't be trusted with sensitive material).
I do expect that Coons' daughter will make an appearance. I hope she gets justice, she was very brave during the 2015 Senate Swearing-in ceremony.
If they are hyping up releasing info, it is to cover their own ass. Nothing noteworthy.
This is the 2nd time maxey has said this in the last 30 days.
A little hopium to go with that, the facts are simple, the laptop does exist, the fact that the narrative changed to acknowledging the laptop speaks volumes.
Bonus,
You can already find videos of hunter biden having sex with underage(Eastern European, Russian? Girls and 2 videos of oral sex with 2 underage girls) for obvious reasons I won't link or post that unless I move to Mars.
Crack addicts, porn addicts, any kind of addicts have an amazing ability to do far more than you may think. It is because they are addicted that they put so much time into their addictions. If Hunter had a porn addiction in addition to his Crack addiction, 22 pics a day would be nothing. Didn't he have an account at one of the major porn sites? Sounds like a pron addict to me.
just immagine you go to jail for downloading videos of hunter molesting underage girls and hunter is free and a CNN anchor.
This could absolutely happen.
The perfect honey pot in fact.
I'll pass on viewing it. Someone else has better mental fortitude, better ability to hide their identity and a stronger stomach to summarize it for the rest of us.
No it couldn’t. Because then the prosecution aka the government would be forced to admit in court that the images are authentic. You could plaster the images on billboards and ain’t shit gonna happen.
What are they gonna do?
"Possession of CP" laws protect pedophiles.
Can you elaborate on that?
It's simple, really.
Guy gets hard evidence--photos, videos, etc.--of pedophile's crimes.
Meaning he now possesses CP.
He goes to law enforcement.
Where he is arrested for possession of CP.
His life is ruined.
The actual pedophile, the one actually harming actual children, is not punished.
I get that, and thank God for it.
But you have to go around the Swamp to do it.
Like Q said, "the only way is the military."
If that were true why is the laptop repair shop owner not in jail for ending up in possession of Hunter Biden's child porn?
He almost did. But good guys stopped it.
yup. No one wants that crap on their computer, But in the eyes of the law if you have a video of hunter diddling a child that was in a hard drive image of hunters computer, you are worse then hunter.........
It’s also used as one of the biggest blackmail operations on earth
100% possible with the current “justice” system in the US
Good advice. Thank you.
Seriously
Huge Catch-22...you don't want to remain completely ignorant but also don't want to traumatize yourself or go to jail and be branded for life as an ex-con sex offender for conducting research on the real sex offenders.
This is a great book and it confirms your statement:
http://itsnotthelaw.com/newbook.htm
A mighty bold statement here. Is it bluster or you full-onboard not paying taxes too?
Fuck you too! 😇👍
We the people.
Let's go brandon. Lol
Jk fren. Kill em all, let death sort em out.
Dead go in THAT pile. See? Easy sorting.
That's why I say it shouldn't be a crime to 'download' anything from the internet. They've gone too far in calling that action a 'crime.' if you didn't have any participation in any crimes and never re-uploaded 'bad' content back up to the internet..then you shouldn't be charged with any crime. PERIOD. I err on the side of freedom.
I’ve never considered that argument, but I think it has solid grounding.
I also err on the side of freedom, but it does pain me to think of how some may escape any worldly justice because all they did was download “something.”
If we had much more aggressive prosecution and harsher punishment for uploaders, this might work.
In any case, interesting perspective, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Something to think about.
Anyone truly educated on takedowns knows you go after the suppliers, then the distributors.
Going after the consumers is an almost entirely non-viable strategy.
That said, it's a tough subject to broach because when they're viewing children.. ehhh it's stomach turning.
The worst is that it seems they go after children who ended up stupidly taking pictures when they were young and then having them resurface later after they're an adult (so a victimless crime) harder than going after, say, Epstein Island consumers?
Really weird fucking world we live in right now. Really fucking weird.
Normally I'd also err on the side of freedom but the thought of viewing the indiscretions from just an information perspective is extremely off-putting to me.
Some people did that with Pizzagate investigations and they were depressed for months and IIRC didn't want to keep digging for a while.
I will say though that downloading as a crime is.. really sketchy from a freedom perspective, and a better handle should be on the people actually producing or disseminating.
Goes for all things, like piracy for games and movies too. Better availability, fairer pricing goes a long way on that front vs just trying to oppressively stop it on the consumer front. Taking down aggregates and such would be a better use of resources.
Exactly...because WHERE DOES THE ACTUAL 'CRIME' END?? If NO party was injured by my 'downloading' of (put anything here) then I have committed no crime. If, for instance, I re-upload or share what I've downloaded then that could be considered a contribution to a previous crime (although a very minor contribution).. but something nonetheless. Simply 'having' something on your computer should never be a crime in itself. If the 'law' thinks someone committed a crime to obtain (illegal material here) then they need to prove that in a court of law. If someone paid for (illegal material here) then of course THAT could be considered a contribution to the crime. Otherwise, simply 'having' something ON you computer without actually knowing HOW it got there is really no crime. IMHO
I can give an easy example.
Let's say for instance some knucklehead posted a naked picture of a child on Twitter and before Twitter got around to removing it, it was downloaded by 30,000 people. Should we ran-sack the homes of 30,000 people and haul them all in for pedophilia and put them all on the pedophile list? Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's just one example of why just 'having' something 'bad' on your own private computer shouldn't be a crime just in itself.
'Buying' is contributing to the crime. I'm only talking about downloading free from the internet. Nothing more. Although buying should be a crime and the person 'fined' I still down think that person should be slammed with the title a 'pedophile'.
I'll give you another example. Let's say you purchased a used computer from someone and you later find out that there's tons of child porn on it. You call your local police to tell them that whoever sold you your computer had this stuff on it when you bought it. Well, by 'their definition' you BOTH have committed a crime. You are guilty of just 'having' it on your computer regardless of how it got there. In their eyes you're guilty until you prove to them that you weren't buying that computer FOR the actual child porn on it. Get what I'm saying. If you follow the constitutional laws, you should be innocent and they would need to prove that you bought it 'for' the child porn on it. The way our system is set up now it doesn't protect the citizen's rights on this subject. In my opinion, they've gone overboard on what is actually a crime and what participation of that crime is, if any at all.
Even just the download, not just the actual purpose, is what drives the continued creation of more sexual child abuse. The reason even just possession of such material is a big deal is because any viewing of such material also continues the abuse of the children originally depicted in the digital media. It's not only the original act of sexual abuse against children we're worried about, but also the continued exploitation of that child as the media is passed around. And since being in possession of such digital media continues the exploitation of the child, we decide to criminalize such acts.
I don't believe that downloading 'drives' child abuse. Where did you come up with this idea? Well, you need to PROVE this in a court of law that what a 'down-loader' did (on his own) caused any harm to anyone..to even make that a crime.
The person(s) 'passing' them around are the guilty, NOT anyone who can freely download.
"And since being in possession of such digital media continues the exploitation of the child, we decide to criminalize such acts." Here you are using your own assumption to prove itself.
It's basically economics, supply and demand. There's a demand for such material. Plenty of people pay literally money for the child abuse media. There may not always be direct links of payments for the media, Bitcoin is used frequently which is incredibly hard to truly trace a single direct purchase to some entities who are probably outside the jurisdiction of the United States. Even if not every bit of child sexual abuse media is purchased, as a whole there is a "market" for such material across the dark web or wherever, so the "market" will adjust and create the supply to meet the demand. People consuming this illegal and abhorrent material drive the need for a supply to exist. So the legislation goes after people who just consume, not necessarily distribute, because the market to consume this stuff in the end drives the actual physical abuse that is necessary to create new sources of child sexual abuse footage. The demand for consumption of any type of "product" will generally simultaneously create a system to somehow supply that demand.
I understand what you're saying..but they need to prove the guilt instead of assuming you're guilty first.
Like I said before, if you did not contribute to any of the child porn stuff then you shouldn't be charged with a crime just BECAUSE it happens to be on your computer that ANYONE can freely download. They still need to prove in a court of law how a specific person contributed to said crime. I really don't care what you download..it could be anything. Just using this because its the topic.
IF YOU DID NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE MAKING, FILMING, DISTRIBUTION, SHARING, ETC then you shouldn't be labelled a criminal.
THEY NEED TO PROVE YOU'RE GUILTY OF HARM. IN A CONSTITUTIONAL COURT OF LAW THAT WOULD BE VERY DAMN HARD TO DO.
In our kangaroo courts..you're guilty until proven innocent. Look at theJ6ers. That's not freedom.
I said the same thing two weeks ago and was temporarily banned for "dooming".
They can run their forums however they want. There is just a lot of hype sometimes over things that turn out to be nothing and I think we need to be more skeptical of these big claims.
Just two more weeks
It's always soon.
Never now.
Do it. Until then I call BS. Just another “tick tock” (Hannity) to me.
We've already seen a couple compromising pics of him with kids. I believe this will happen.
Speakin of hannity, he had Sean Penn on his show. Lmao. What a joke.
You know, one thing I don’t understand is, why did Hunter take so many stupid pictures of himself knowing that if they were leaked he could get everybody in trouble?? Who was he planning to show them off to??
Probably wanted to keep them as memories. The salacious pics were probably JO material.
One must be a very special kinda stoooopid to take photos like that… VERY STOOOPID
Black mail is like gold in their line of work.
Biden was using his son as a barganing chip to seal deals.
"Here have this compromising video of my son to ensure we have a deal and Im serious."
I am just tired at this point man.
We all are, keep on keeping on boss. It is all we can do.
It was a keep your chin up comment. Not about not doing anything to change the world we are living in. Keep on keeping on its all we can do means keep putting one foot in front of the other and don't give in to despair. It's a loaded sentence.
Weren’t we told this two weeks ago and nothing happened? No release?
That John Moxey guy said he was in the process of releasing.
No. I mean, it's on here somewhere and was all the rage for a couple days two or three weeks back. I'm horrible at searching for older posts though. I can't even think of the dude's name who had the info. If I can find it I'll provide the alfredo.
Edit: I found this post on The Donald. Posts in the same vein were posted all over GAW in the same timeframe but I'm awful with the search bar (or the search bar is awful ;)).
Ha! What would make Maxey think that he’s safe from the DS by going to Switzerland?
This has all the drama of a controlled opposition plan.
Either that or Maxey’s part of a plan by the DS itself to remove Biden & Co. because they’re becoming too big of a liability.
Take out the puppet... protect the puppet masters.
or he's nowhere near Switzerland.
Exactly! If I was hiding from the bad guys I sure wouldn't truthfully announce where.
Nearly every single politician is compromised. Same goes for company CEOs, judges, municipal officials, you name it. They are in their positions precisely because they are compromised. This is what allows the cabal to control everything.
We should not be confused when people we "elect", which is fake as we now know, do things against the people's will. They were not elected by our will. They were placed by the cabal.
When the cabal calls, they do what the cabal says, or their career and life is over.
The cabal could end Joe at any time. They could end kamala anytime. Pelosi anytime. All of them.
As long as their useful idiots do as they say, they remain in place. As soon as they don't they are removed and swapped out.
u/#correct
This has all the signs of putting it out so people will click to read it, but as time goes by then less and less people will click on it, boring of the topic. Once the real stuff comes out, people are so exhausted of the topic, they have stopped clicking on it. Then the real stuff is buried and people are OK with it because they are tired of it.
There is a lot of truth to what you are saying. It's why the media has admitted the laptop is real after 2 years. But it's a controlled release. No one is talking about what is in the laptop, only that it is real.
“Next week” Anon counter: 7,945
Does anyone else find it weird that the size of the evidence keeps growing? Guiliani posted the type of laptop a while ago and it had a 256GB hard drive, how are there suddenly 450 gb of data here when there was more than 300 in the last post? Hard drives don't work like that, you copy over things.
Yeah, it's bullshit.
Y'all can tell me about it. I seriously do not need to actually see any of it.
Soon. Soon. Soon.
I vaguely remember hearing something about there being "highlight reels" of certain politicians' sex crimes. I wonder if they share these. I wonder if Hunter had frazzled.rip (you never know, maybe before it was known that he couldn't be trusted with sensitive material).
I do expect that Coons' daughter will make an appearance. I hope she gets justice, she was very brave during the 2015 Senate Swearing-in ceremony.
So if Maxey is in fear of his life, why TELL everyone he is in Switzerland?
Well if i wanted people to not know where i am id tell them im in Switzerland... then go somewhere else.
True! Unless he really is in Switzerland.
Unless he thinks they'd think he would think that.
And then pedo joe pardons him and himself
Actually, he will probably issue two pardons for himself and forget about Hunter. Dementia is tough stuff.
Things to remember.
Soon … Always soon
Who has 80,000 photos on their laptop?
Crack addicts, porn addicts, any kind of addicts have an amazing ability to do far more than you may think. It is because they are addicted that they put so much time into their addictions. If Hunter had a porn addiction in addition to his Crack addiction, 22 pics a day would be nothing. Didn't he have an account at one of the major porn sites? Sounds like a pron addict to me.
Could be. Seems like a lot to me, especially to be carrying around on a laptop. External hard drive maybe, but on a laptop?
Bullshit. Mods should stop stickying all these "soon" posts because you're just helping the grifters grift.
It feels like things are actually coming together for once. We shall see.
I do know this... the 2020 election needs to be fixed before the 2022 election. If it is not then our country as we knew it is truly over.