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"Trump’s EO 13957 was a dagger aimed directly at the heart of the beast. It might have worked." (brownstone.org) Schedule F to pay respects
posted 3 years ago by Emyrylde 3 years ago by Emyrylde +381 / -0
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– Lapstrake 88 points 3 years ago +88 / -0

Donald Trump came into office with the promise of draining the swamp, without understanding entirely what that meant. He gradually came to realize that he had no control over most of the affairs of government, not because he had no patience for the legislative process but because he had no ability to terminate the employment of most of the civilian bureaucracy.

Bullshit. Why does everybody insist on believing that Trump doesn't know what he's doing?

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– Emyrylde [S] 72 points 3 years ago +72 / -0

I know, I am surrounded with people who can't recognize his brilliance.

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– TheTroof 68 points 3 years ago +68 / -0

Not just his, but the military behind him. Trump was, and is, not alone in fixing the mess.

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– queue-anon 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Correct was going to write the same thing. 1 man can not defeat a global cabal by himself

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– MileHiLife 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

"but the military behind him. Trump was, and is, not alone in fixing the mess."

This is what/who Q team is.

The only way is military

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– Cpleb 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

That’s why they don’t think Q is real either. It’s quite interesting that normies have so much faith in authority and skepticism in the “unproven” (there’s probably a better word) while Q followers are the exact opposite.

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– rayw_wwg1wga 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I'd consider myself a Q follower but question everything including anything to do with Q or anything else.

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– OriginalRealityCheck 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It's not the questioning that means anything.

It's the accurate answers that count....

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– tobeselfevident 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Well...you have to start with the willingness to question or the answers will sound like nonsense to you.

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– PandaMoon17 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It’s a lot easier to accept that Q has been right in a way that seems to be beyond human capability if you understand that we have had hidden elements of human society that are hundreds of years ahead of the public technologically. These groups have been around for a long time. Some are good some are bad. There is a long hidden history and normies are too lazy and unfocused to even learn the public history of the world. They will always write off Q as a cult because of their ignorance. If you take Q literally he has been wrong more than he has been right. Just like if you take the Bible literally you can say it has countless contractions.

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– truthloveliberty 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

But neither Q or the Bible are wrong when you step back from our finite mindsets and see the Big Picture.

(I’m not saying Q is on-par with Scripture, just almost always right… aside from that one correction “he” made after posting a scene from a disaster movie as if it was actually L.A. …said he did that in a rush because he was in a helicopter.)

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– PandaMoon17 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That’s not even my point at all. I’m not trying to say anything negative about the Bible or Q. Neither are wrong but both have information that is incorrect if you take it at face value and that’s a fact. If you can’t see that then you are just inexperienced with both or are in denial of the facts and Thats a big part of the problem too.

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– truthloveliberty 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What part are you disagreeing with me about?

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– PandaMoon17 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I guess I’m actually not. We are pretty much saying the same thing. I might have misread your post earlier. Was between lunch and work when I wrote it.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– Thwok 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I agree .. but why did he wait until the last minute to do this? It had to be something to force their hand. Was there a good chance of the vote being sent back to the states? Is this what he used to ensure Pence certified the election?

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– Emyrylde [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Great questions.

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– Phishhed44 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Who the heck downdooted this comment?!! Trolls.

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– Cpleb 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe downdooting accident.

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– JSSS 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Nope, theres always that one Asshole in every thread.

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– Phishhed44 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

🤷🏼

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– tobeselfevident 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I think some people just can't get over the fact that he lost, and struggle to believe it's possible that it was his plan all along.

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– OriginalRealityCheck 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

If he had changed it right away, and lots of people were replaced, the when the dark side changed them back there would have been mass confusion and inefficiency.

So they might not have been nearly as able to really obviously screw up EVERY SINGLE THING they touched. So he let them keep their network of evil, so it would become obvious to even the most sheepish of sheep and to the Monstets' Minions....

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– Thwok 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Excellent point.

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– Phishhed44 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yep…imagine Trump’s frustration? Dude.

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– OriginalRealityCheck 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If he had changed it right away, and lots of people were replaced, the when the dark side changed them back there would have been mass confusion and inefficiency.

So they might not have been nearly as able to really obviously screw up EVERY SINGLE THING they touched. So he let them keep their network of evil, so it would become obvious to even the most sheepish of sheep's and to the Monstets' Minions....

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– Thwok 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Even better point.

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– ILoveIvermectin 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Yup.

Much of the bureaucracy was permanent. Even most of the budget was permanent. He’s basically starving the feds….. which is why Biden needs new spending bills every couple months for this issue or that.

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– Emyrylde [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I LOVE the sound of that "starving the Feds"!! Would make a great name for a band.

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– JSSS 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Its a good article that I dont fully understand. But I am sure smarter money people will. This went largely unnoticed when it happened.

https://takeoregonback.com/2020/06/09/the-real-reason-trump-merged-the-us-treasury-with-the-federal-reserve/

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– ILoveIvermectin 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yes. I’ll read. I Remeber when he did this. Fed was a private company. Yellen was head of fed i believe. She’s at treasury now because treasury is over the fed. She’s there to get things back to “normal”.

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– cajun_robear 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Stupid cannot see brilliance. They're stupid.

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– deleted 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
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– Corse46 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Because the alternative is too scary for them to think about. That he does know exactly what he’s doing and beat them in the worlds greatest game of chess

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– CrimsonSentinal 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Exactly, Trump was fully aware and more than we’ll ever know. It was those loons and the swamp creatures with their faux sense of security that are now realizing that the plug has been pulled and they can’t get out of the swirling vortex that will end their reign FOREVER!

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– highlandparker 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Praise God Hallelujah. Soon.....I hope

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– WeAreThePlan 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I was thinking the same thing. OF COURSE he knew what he was getting into. He had been around these assholes his whole life.

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– Jimmy_Crack_Corn 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Now he just has to come back and finish the job,

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– FEARNOT 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Ask 11 COCOM Commanders ? They are not talking. They are waiting for the proper time. NCSWIC

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– deleted 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0
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– Emyrylde [S] 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

The planning for the steal had to start a long time before this EO was drafted unless Trump had it written and waiting his whole term which is a possibility. I see it more as a shot across their bow that ensured they'd go through with the steal that he already knew was going to happen.

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– deltadog 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Yeah, motivation to cheat harder, and with 3 months notice before election, much sloppier.

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– BadMamaJama 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Anyone think the military has been in control since sometime during early in Obama's second term? They had to have these plans ready to discuss with Trump in advance of his running for office in 2014 or in order to convince Trump that 'now is the time'. Wonder if the master plan included Trump as part of it, and not 'everything' started/designed with Trump and his EO? Nothing against DJT.

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– quai24 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Thomas Wictor suggested that we may have been in a partial devolution under Obama. The fact that someone was able to leverage McConnell to block Obama's judge nominations is a small bit of evidence towards this, imo.

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– Tradstew 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Fraud vitiates everything including the reversal.

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The only things that can be vitiated are things that happened. Things that didn't happen...didn't happen. Too bad.

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– JonathanE 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A thing that happened was Biden reversing this EO.

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You are right. I was reacting to the blocked Supreme Court nominations. I am sometimes confused by the order of the thread. My apology.

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– JonathanE 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No apologies required :)

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– OriginalRealityCheck 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good point!

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– OriginalRealityCheck 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Agree. The Trump Team's plan worked....

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– deltadog 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Trump and Co produced this EO this right before the election to SPUR the enemy into more BLATANT cheating.

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– Thwok 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Did he sign it two weeks before the election, or two weeks before the counting/certification?

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– Emyrylde [S] 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

"Whatever one’s view of Trump, one has to admire the brilliance of this executive order. It shows that Trump had come to understand the problem and actually innovate a fundamental solution, or at least the beginnings of one. The “deep state” as we’ve come to know it would have been curbed, and we would have taken a step toward recreating the system that existed before the Pendleton Act of 1883."

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– Notimportant81 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

I suspect he knew before because I have understood it for 50 years. And I am just an average person who has lived and worked amongst the Civil service.

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– Emyrylde [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I agree. I suspect he watched Obama fill the SES before he left office and devised a plan to counter when the time was right.

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– Notimportant81 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

And you wouldn't believe how bad it is on military bases. Civilians know that commander rotates out and they just have to survive until the end.

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– Just_dumping_fuel 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

in the military, coming into a well functioning command puts mass amount of pressure on you. coming into a complete turd makes any small fixes seem miracles.

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– QPLUSWONBIGLY 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

And he knew it was not a war that could he fought on one front.

This whole "not just another 4 year election" is so much more complex than any of us understand. To act like its just some corruption in the system and bigger than Trump understood or could handle, is beyond ignorant.

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– Notimportant81 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

This.

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– BoatingAccident 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And…. It had to be done this way

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– numina18 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

How can anyone say anything against Trump?? He really tried to drain the swamp, and when he comes back, he will.

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– Greatheart 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Wow, This gives us a clear view of what is coming. Good bye deep state.

President Trump didn't know what he was doing from day one. LAUGHING OUT LOUD.

That is much bigger than LOL.

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– Emyrylde [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Right? So many are so clueless. Just because they don't understand or can't envision something doesn't mean Trump didn't!!!

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– brxn 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The US Constitution states that the Executive (the President) has control over the Executive Branch.. I don't know why the Executive could not just fire thousands of 'Deep State' employees.. The whole Department of Homeland Security was created just because George W Bush (Executive at the time) declared it to be after 9/11..

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– For-The-Win 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

When you think about it....

Dubya created DHS a new government sector.

Trump created Space Force a new military wing.

Just a boss!

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– QPLUSWONBIGLY 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Rip the leaves off an annoying tree in your yard? Or pull up every last piece of root and incinerate it all?

Would the average american believe you in 2015, if you told them how far CoViD was going to go in 2020? How hard our government pushed us? Shit probably 85% of people ate the 9/11 lie, and the corruption was just as prevalent back then.

The American people would not have been ready to step up 4 years ago. He would have fired everybody just for the enemy to see that they haven't safeguarded their empire enough, they would double down and we would never again have the chance for a mostly peaceful retake of our country.

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– Emyrylde [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

This is very true. You would have thought people would have been startled awake when the Senior Executive Service positions were created as unfireable. 'Should' have set off alarm bells.

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– CrimsonSentinal 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I’d disagree, it was 99% of the population who bought the lie... at first. But yes, it currently sits at 85%. Try telling any random person off the street about how 9/11 was an inside job used as an excuse to steal and cover up trillions of dollars that went missing and to usher us into an endless war. They’ll stare at you with a blank face because they cannot comprehend what you just told them.

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– Fucklibswithcactus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Words are important. Cabal trying to “rebrand” America as “homeland” has meaning. America is fundamentally tied to the constitution. There is no foundational document tied to whatever the fuck the homeland is. Dark journalist mentions this repeatedly

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– dty6 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

good article, thanks

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– VetforTrump 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

They told is the fourth branch was the media. They weren't wrong, only the media are lackeys for the boss crim8nals

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– Phishhed44 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That beeeatch Jackson got “her” (what’s a woman?) payoff.

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– dec3169 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Crap. That reminds me. The SCOTUS term is ending soon. That means Breyer will "be retired" and Jackson will be sworn in.

Oh well - I guess the decisions from that seat probably won't change much so will anyone even notice Breyer is gone?

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– Phishhed44 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Great point. I’m sure her “opinions” will be cringeworthy.

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– suave200 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

especially on women's issues, since she doesn't know what one is.

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– Mountaing8 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

So the Deep State is the civil servants? I used to consider them the secret society members who make policy for the whole planet.

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– dec3169 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

All inclusive. The civil servants (or bureaucrats), the NGOs, all the secret societies and clubs, the elites that fund everything, and their minions like the media. Somewhere in there you could add UN, World Bank, WEF, WHO, and other like agencies.

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– CQVFEFE 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Fuck!

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– test_pattern 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Don’t you remember one of the first things he did?

As you would expect from any CEO, he ordered a comprehensive administrative/operational assessment: chain of command structure, dept purpose, budget, employees, results, redundancies; departments were requested to submit recommendations for improvement and efficiency.

He was able to restructure much of the intractable civil ‘servant’ positions out of business.

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– Emyrylde [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I remember him ordering that but never heard any follow up afterwards.

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– dec3169 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Didn't he also order troops out of Syria, but they stayed anyway?

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Mixing apples and oranges yet acting as if they're the same. Why? Intentionally confusing or still learning intellectual rigor so inadvertently confusing to readers and to self?

Bottom line, best wishes. WWG1WGA

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– dec3169 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Huh? That was another example of Trump ordering something and the DS not following the order.

Seems like there are a lot of people lately that are just in the mood to mess with people. WTH is going on in GA?

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– VetforTrump 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Used to be the media they called the 4th branch

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– dec3169 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They used to be the 4th Estate, but somewhere along the lines the media, deep state, and the IC were interchangeably used as the 4th Branch.

They're all probably right, but in my opinion the deep state (all the federal agencies with their lifetime bureaucratic employees) is the main factor. The media is just a mouthpiece. They spew what is given to them by their masters. Granted some comes from the IC but I would bet more comes from the bureaucrats. Besides, the IC could be lumped in with the rest of the "feds that can't be fired".

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– Keymaster62 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The DS would definitely like to put a face to Q so they could out him, ridicule him and kill him. If Q is a real person ( and not a government post-op) do you really think he would give out his identity? Q's identity it's probably one of the greatest, most well-guarded secrets of the past 60 years.

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– Cozette 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Dear padawan, If should have. Would have. Didnt. Hence. Shouldn't have.

Learning civics 101 ie the rules of the game will improve insights. So will grasping battlefield conditions affecting choices.

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