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What is a 15-minute City? (media.communities.win)
posted 3 years ago by eagle-eyes2020 3 years ago by eagle-eyes2020 +192 / -0
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– TSearch 27 points 3 years ago +27 / -0

Sadly you’re probably right.

I don’t think anyone would be opposed to small grocery stores, shops, and pubs organically moving back into neighborhoods. After all, this is the way it used to be not so very long ago.

But, when the NWO is proposing something we instinctively know it won’t be good for 99% of the people.

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– inquimous 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

The 15 minute city is a simplistic idea of recreating villages. But out of cities that have been designed in zones for living, working, industry, etc. for a hundred years, so the infrastructure is not there anymore for "easy walking distance." Watch, as soon as this reality penetrates, people will want to tear down everything and redistribute the zone contents.

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I didn't get to see much of the city proper, but what I did see of Charleston, SC was gorgeous. Had a great small-town feel without the skyscrapers I see in NYC.

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– FiatLux 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Bingo. New urbanism is actually heavily influenced by Charleston sc. and it’s not a NWO thing there are strong conservative arguments for returning to traditional urban models like the small town or village instead of endless globohomo sprawl and box stores with shit made in china. We can have real towns in this country again not just a choice between urban high rises and sprawl. Bring back the three story village

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Hell, I even saw a bicycle manufacturer with a storefront. It was so cool to see, like a still-existing small-town America I would see in movies. I'd love to go back. Maybe I should see if my friend can get me a job at the place he works at, or stick with security.

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– AgnosticTemplar 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Small businesses? Ha! They'll be forced out via taxes and regulations, so the only businesses will be corporate chains. Think food deserts are bad now, wait until your designated zone has the one grocery store in it close because of the rampant shoplifting. Then you'll have to dip into your 100 allotted excursions to do your weekly grocery run. Might have to do it twice a week, as you'll be limited by how much you can carry.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

No dumbass when you build sprawl you get globalist corps who move in. When you have small towns with small retail stores you get mom and pop stores which are just about perfectly fit into msmaller buildings with lots of foot traffic

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– AgnosticTemplar 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ok, but the "15 minute city" isn't small town, it's sprawl segmented into zones you're sequestered into.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes it’s a series of small town centers but nobody is going to restrict you from going outside that. But the idea that you can get most stuff you need in your own neighborhood seems pretty nice

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– AgnosticTemplar 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's literally stated that you have to request permission to go outside your zone and are only allotted 100 such trips a year. I don't believe for a second that each zone will be like living in a small town. It will be urban blight, only your movements will be monitored and restricted.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You are delusional

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– AgnosticTemplar 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You're the one who is delusional if you think this globohomo scheme isn't going to end up an Orwellian shithole. Seriously, explain to me how you can possibly think each zone will mimic a quaint small town.

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– ScionOfMaga 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

If “15 minute cities” were to pop up organically, I think they could be amazing. As another commenter said, the majority of people used to live this way—in a village, traveling largely by foot. Many of the costs for modern goods come from transportation, customs, taxes, etc. Take those things out of the equation and all of a sudden your local tailor can actually compete with Walmart by providing a vastly superior product.

One vein of advice on here for fighting the NWO is to go local. Buy from your local butcher and so on and so forth. I see 15 minute cities as an attempt to co-opt this sentiment. I don’t trust it when it is handed down from on high. But the idea itself is sound, if it arises from people who are free.

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– repeatoffender 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

When the majority used to live this way, we dealt with thieves and violent people with rope and bullets. Bums were run out of town. It was safe to walk in the streets. Men would open doors for women.

Times have changed and all of those conditions are now the opposite.

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– ScionOfMaga 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Society changed. Can it change once again?

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A good take on this. It should be local but the idea of a walkable neighborhood is great for local businesses

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– Gaterop 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

This times 10. This would never work as a top down edict forced upon everybody by a centralized global totalitarian state, but if it were to naturally happen as a response to government over reach that communities started organically developing something like this would be great, almost necessary even if we are to get disconnected from this tyrannical globalist machine.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sprawl was enforced after World War Two by federal rules which make it the dominant development pattern so why not undo those and see what happens at least

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I added the speech of Orit Dolev - It is literally "You will own nothing and be happy, everything will (must) be rented" from 2019

We will own nothing and be happy, because our cities and communities will be bankrupt, our houses will be to expensive to be paid and the mortgages will rise to such height that we are happy to sell.

We will only be allowed to rent everything = subscription to services and experiences!

Certainly your subscription can be cancelled, if you are not meeting the guidelines.

Now we know why they hyped the tiny houses, nomad life, home-office, 3 hrs week, cargo bikes, automated driving (strokes!), ...

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– SoMuchWinning45 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Tiny houses aren't a bad idea though, if you can live without a lot of 'stuff'. They're fairly mobile if you have a truck, or have access to a truck. If you know how to live off grid and maybe even have a set up like that, you can plop it down on a piece of land and there you go, no mortgage. There's also van conversions too.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Van conversions seem like a great idea to bug out with. Most have a shower and most have some kind of toilet. Also diesel heaters, a fridge, sink, solar and batteries.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not a bad idea though.

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– MICHIGANisRED 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

15-minute cities are a happy lie. They don't want us living restricted, meaningless lives. They want us DEAD.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe they do want us dead but walkable towns are a great idea. Fuck sprawl and Fuck having to drive to literally every. Fucking. Thing.

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– MICHIGANisRED 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

We already have those. Urban cities. The problem is there's so many fucking people living in these places that nobody normal wants to live there. They've got everything within a few blocks, but it sucks tremendously.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yea because it’s overbuilt. There’s such a thing as a “full “ city but instead of making a new one next door we just sprawl out everywhere

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– inquimous 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

In real life, those on the edges are frequently going to be further from services in their own zone than the same in the adjacent zone. But to use services in another zone, the citizen must travel in a perimeter route around his own. This is going to lead to more traffic on roads not designed for it, not less.

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– ProudOfAmerica 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It also radically redistributes property values. Those that used to be at the outskirts of town will now be at the inlet (close to the ring road), and those at the heart of town will now be at the furthest point.

Those that bought at the far edge of town in order to have peace and quiet, will now be on the main street into town -- and those that decided to be 'in the center of it all', will now be all alone.

Inversion, as usual.

Location, location, location.

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– inquimous 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, but this assumes a relatively sparse population so that there is more of a countryside outside the perimeter. Then it would be less of a problem, already semi-villages. I don't know about you but I live almost in the middle of a solid city for 25-40 miles in every direction. If I needed warehouses it would be great, but if I needed any medical services or cultural divertissements or government offices or a supermarket, I'd be out of luck.

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– ProudOfAmerica 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, but this assumes a relatively sparse population so that there is more of a countryside outside the perimeter.

True, my 'frame of reference' is the description of the 15-minute plan in Oxford. Having visited Oxford, it seems that it would turn the city 'inside out' (as I described). In larger cities (like yours), it would simply 'create cell blocks'.

I still argue it will radically alter property values.

Katie Hopkins explains the 15-minute cities plan in Oxford: https://twitter.com/77eight8/status/1622361710379122691

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– inquimous 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Especially when they start rebuilding to try and create this 15 minute layout... I've lived in this same neighborhood since 1970, two different houses. It used to be on the edge of town. Now it's the middle. So I've seen a lot of property revolution.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes what you’re referring to is known as Sprawl Repair. It’s a great idea

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, it is ridiculous! Clown world!!!

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– colorado_patriot 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

They've been grooming us for this for some time with the rental bikes and scooters on every street of every big city.

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly.

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– BetterNameUnfound 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Want to do this right?

Philadelphia used to have a law that no building in the city could be taller than the statue of William Penn standing atop City Hall.

It allowed the city to grow reasonably, without becoming a brutalist hellscape.

Then they started ignoring the law and building taller skyscrapers anyway.

So they helicoptered the statue to the top of their tallest one in 2007, where it stands today.

Now they're in compliance with the law AND a brutalist hellscape.

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– Skankblunt42 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I for one am looking forward in amusement when the first 15 min black city is inevitably created and subsequently becomes a 15 min retail store desert.

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– SoMuchWinning45 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

That entire city would quickly become a no-go zone.

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– SallyJ444 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Same for Muslim enclaves.

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– cara_c 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

A few more walkable cities where everything is convenient, for those who would like to live that way, is a great idea.

But ghettos created by the NWO to trap us in districts to be controlled is reminiscent of The Hunger Games.

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– Mcmurdo32 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I'm not against local neighborhood business centers where residents could get their day-to-day needs without leaving the neighborhood, BUT they want to restrict travel to other parts of the city and that must be studiously opposed with every fiber of our beings.

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– Deplorable_in_PA 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I figured was bad, but after watching a few videos on it, this sounds horrible. It sounds like straight up communism with a healthy dose of feudalism. It's basically modern serfdom or modern wage slavery.

I love the "own nothing" part. Someone has to own property. Otherwise there would be no economic incentive to offer "subscriptions" and hire workers for delivery, property upkeep, washing, etc. Does anyone think the "owner" class will live in small pods and eat bugs?

This setup would be Wal Mart's wet dream. Take clothes. Instead of them just profiting once off the sale of a pair of pants they could "rent" said items and keep charging you for their usage. Instead of you having pants with holes, faded, etc they would tell you the pants are "unacceptable" and force you to keep renting newer pants or have to "upgrade" to more expensive new style pants. They could charge you whatever the hell they wanted since you can't own a damn thing they could literally bilk you over the clothes you are wearing. Now multiply that times every household or personal commodity you use on a daily basis. I could very easily see large corporations engaging in widespread usury and there wouldn't be damn thing you could do about it.

This almost reminds me of back in the day in the south. Where blacks were forced to shop at stores owned by racist assholes who charged them more and allowed them to but on credit at high interest rates. Of course they had no choice since they didn't have any mobility or political power. Sound familiar?

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– Light1SingleCandle 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, this is the "company city" complete with the "company housing" and "company store" but on a national/global scale. No money exchanged because the payment was slave labor disguised as credit/rent. No escape because accruing assets was impossible.

This is why the DS needs to eliminate private property rights.

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– CaptainQuip 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

"I owe my soul to the company store."

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Still true!

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– undine53 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Already implemented in Canterbury, now proposed for Oxford UK.

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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0
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– Britpat 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corbusier

I wouldn’t mind betting that somewhere along the way Klaus Schwab is related to Swiss “ architectural pioneer “ Le Corbusier.

His model was tested extensively in the UK in the post war years and failed miserably.

I can’t see any reason to think that an updated version would be any different.

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Le Corbusier created a Anatole-Schwob Villa - perhaps there is a connection to Schwab, Anatole Schwob was a swiss watch maker.

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– Britpat 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I’ve just read that. Sometimes it is printed as Schwab.

I thought of Le Corbusier as a “father figure” after remembering an exhibition I visited some years ago.

It really is the most depressing form of architecture. Then I read that he had similar ideas to Schwab a century ago.

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Interesting

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Corbusier was a dip shit and maniac who basically advocated for… sprawl! He hated traditional towns and walkable streets and wanted basically skyscrapers connected by highways, not small American streets or a neighborhood built around a central green with a school building in the middle. Just look back at how we used to build before ww2 and that’s the idea

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– HonestBobbin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Reminds me of FF7 & entire sections of the city being destroyed if individuals resist.

Makes me wonder if these 15 Min cities that get too rowdy will be culled?

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– CovfefeNegro 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Insane idea but foreigners and retards will attempt to implement it.

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– HumblePede 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The '15 minute city' is nothing more than a holding pen for livestock.

Who are the livestock? We are.

Who are the owners? The cabal.

Capitulate to this at your own peril.

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– TripleBlack 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'm starting to notice the housing around me are really nothing more than over priced glorified debt slave internment camps. The 15 minute city is the next logical step.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Looked it up looks fine to me. It’s a little gay but not bad for a society that has forgotten how to build real towns for the past 70 years trying to figure it out.

Fuck sprawl

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well that’s where you’re wrong - sprawl is the result of a series of shady back room deals at the federal level that made it all but impossible to build traditional small towns and neighborhoods. Nobody voted for it. And those laws are still on the books driving the kind of expensive and ugly development which is choking our countryside

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– JonathanE 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/joint-statement-from-oxfordshire-county-council-and-oxford-city-council-on-oxfords-traffic-filters/

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– Deplorable_in_PA 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Of course the commies want you to "own nothing". Ownership and private property helps create wealth. I buy a car, pay it off, and keep driving it. Every mile I drive it increases the value I have received from buying that car.

Under this garbage "utopia" model I would have to continually pay for usage of something that I receive no equity or long term value from. If I need to use a car to drive to work I would have to keep paying for "ride share" services for decades with nothing to show for it.

Why the left thinks modern serfdom or wage slavery is a good idea is absolutely beyond me.

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– ifififififokiedokie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I mean… no I disagree. This just sounds like good urban planning. Sucks getting in a car 5 times and driving 30 mile round trip to accomplish basic errands. Sorry, can’t get on board with bashing this.

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– Totsugeki 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It sounds nice up until they ban private ownership ("you will own nothing and be happy"). Then you have to walk 15 minutes from your government housing pod to get your bug ration (can't own food or have a kitchen to prepare it) or do your laundry (can't own your own machines). Car ownership? Heck, vehicular traffic isn't even permitted anymore.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You are conflating two things. There are a lot of conservatives talking about bringing back traditional town planning too. Nobody’s taking your fucking Walmart grocery getter but if people don’t want to live in a sprawl shithole then maybe they should have a chance to live in a real neighborhood

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– Totsugeki 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nobody’s taking your fucking Walmart grocery getter

What part of "You will own nothing" did you miss? They have straight up told us repeatedly they are taking our vehicles along with everything else we own.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Ok but that doesn’t mean that somehow sprawl is a great way to build a civilization. It’s bankrupting our country. So just wait long enough and it will all go mad max style anyway so who gives af

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– DiveAndBait 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Whether 15 min cities is a great idea or not, it is being pushed through without public consultation, this is a fact and that's the problem.

You may think that to hell with it, let's have nicer areas of living but it's a slippery slope. That's how communists and facists slipped though programs and got to kill over 150 million in genocides throughout history.

You may be thinking, that's not going to happen. But, were you asleep to what happened over the last three years??

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Who ever asked for or voted for sprawl in the first place? It was pushed on us from the federal level by a series of back door deals and regulatory measures. So don’t imagine that it’s the result of the free market because it’s not it’s totally artificial

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"Own Nothing, Have Everything. | Orit Dolev / 2019" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I3ibU2-CU4

https://news.oxfordshire.gov.uk/joint-statement-from-oxfordshire-county-council-and-oxford-city-council-on-oxfords-traffic-filters/

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– akatip 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgGLFozNM2o

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– eagledriver 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The BEST Place Plans of Mice & Men ALWAYS go awry...Never Fails!!!!

Morons who want to be our overlords think they have all the answer and they ONLY thing they have...BULL SHIT!!!!! These idiots couldn't find their balls if they were in front of their eyeballs!!!

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– eagle-eyes2020 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The-Ghetto Meme: https://imgflip.com/i/7a4ucd

"15-Minute City - the prison of convenience" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB4TtY-xqf4

Watch, only 10 minutes: "Own Nothing, Have Everything. | Orit Dolev / 2019" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I3ibU2-CU4


Do something: https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/16a9zocyZv/the-17-goals-are-the-worlds-best/c

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I'm totally triggered.

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– Oldgal_frdup 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They will all be vaxed and living near 5G.

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– Grady_Wilson 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The Cabal desperately wants to bring back feudalism.

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