What article is Q referring to?
I think he is referring the Article 1 Section 9 Clause 2.
"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."
Some historians trace the writ back to Magna Charta, although more definitive evidence shows a gradual emergence under the common law, culminating in the Habeas Corpus Act of 1679, during the reign of Charles II. As Hamilton’s comment shows, the Framers were well aware of the writ. Note that the Constitution does not “create” the writ; rather, Article I, Section 9, assumes the existence of the writ, but provides for its limited suspension.
Early in the Civil War, President Lincoln suspended the writ in a portion of Maryland to arrest a secessionist for destroying railroad bridges.
Chief Justice, Merryman, denounced Lincoln’s action, arguing that only Congress could suspend the writ.
(The next paragraph explains what conditions must present itself)
In classic implied executive powers fashion, Lincoln responded that the Constitution did not specify which branch could suspend the writ, only the conditions under which it could be suspended. Moreover, the President could act due to the emergency involved. Both Lincoln and his attorney general, Edward Bates, declared that the judiciary was incapable of dealing adequately with organized rebellion. Bates, in his more detailed opinion, pointedly reminded the Court that the executive was not subordinate to the judiciary, but one of three coordinate branches of government. The President took an oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution,” Bates asserted, and the courts were too weak to accomplish that task.
What is being shown today?
FBI, CIA, DOJ and the courts are all corrupt / weak.
Just recently shown that FBI and DOJ posses a form FD-1023 from a whistle blower that explains criminal activity where Biden is taking money for foreign political decisions. The FBI and DOJ did not investigate.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16b64Drlmr/congress-to-the-doj-and-fbi--it-/c/
Also recently revealed, the CIA assassinated JFK and was involved in the 9/11 plot.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1651650776408948736.html
Courts refused to look at the election fraud.
At some point in the near future the safety of the American people will be threatened. What will the threat be? Expiration of title 42? Bank Collapse? Nuclear threat/WW3? Perhaps a combination of all 3 scenarios? It will look like the country is on the brink of destruction.
Expiration of Title 42 is going to create a invasion, what does the Writ say?
Could we trust the FBI, CIA and DOJ to resolve all these dilemmas, protect our country and the American people? Nope!!!
If we went into a Devolution of government power or Trump signed the Insurrection Act, the military could secretly be in control and we may not realize it. Trump would have handed the military the control as a way to protect the Constitution and the American people. Biden may be the fake president through election fraud but Trump would remain Commander in Chief (CIC). This would explain the disrespect to Biden from the military on his Inauguration day.
This touches back on the DOD Law of War manual and struggle we have witnessed between the belligerent occupying power (Biden) and (Trump) as the CIC of the occupied territory. (White hat vs Black hat)
Trump is controlling our military and when Trump decides to suspend the Writ of Habeas Corpus, the storm has arrived. I have heard the military tribunals will take place in June and July. This will be when the black hats will need to appear for their court date in GITMO.
Stay safe my frens!!!
WWG1WGA!!!
Something struck me about the Brunson cases and how they haven't yet been successful.
Could it be that the Brunson cases are showing the public that all approaches to the judiciary, right up to the supreme court have been exhaustively tried and that the judicial system is proving incapable of dealing with the stolen election and it's associate treasonous actions?
This is what I think.
That's encouraging!
Yes, I always believed the courts have to be proven to not work as well in order for MIL to take over
The Last Trump (Brunson’s being trumpet players) = the Last Chance given to SCOTUS
Oh! Of course, I see it now! Thanks fren!
The Trumpet Card ?
Trumpet is trump in the Bible
Hmmm, could be.
I hope something happens so normies will wake the hell up.
Hope you will dig into this post, follow the links, and see that it's all about to come undone. I'm grateful that I'm alive in this moment to witness a great event.
I am doing so as we speak. God Bless Fren.
Perpetually applicable - a classic
The T-shirt and bumper sticqer of a generation
Kek.
It’s pretty clear that the institutions of government and Justice are so compromised that there is no recourse. But they have to technically try, and demonstrate that they don’t work, before any other approaches are taken.
Great post, jhartz39.
Thought provoking and with interesting sauce. Also, hopium.
Not hopium,,, Fact.
If not fact, than we’re all dancing in koolAide & fairy dust. I don’t know about y’all but the visual of that looks gay AF and at this point isn’t even a consideration.
*If you’re new to all this and this place you have entered the land of giants. This place was designed and is visited by the most genius, patriotic Americans you’ll ever meet. Over the years I’ve been coming here I’ve seen research and ideas formulated that blew my mind. It stretches from quantum computing to cellular biology and all the way over to game theory with everything in between being covered. I have watch this place go through iteration after iteration until we finally landed on what we are today and I have learned more here about how to think and form a logical conclusion than all my professors and teachers combined were able to teach me. I have been challenged and I have risen to the occasion and that only happened because of the Glorious Bastards that live and work here.
So as you peruse around, trying to get a feel for this place, understand that many here have been going at this for years and they are not out of their minds. So listen carefully to what they’re saying and you might be able to skip all the years of research that they had to go through and jump right to understanding what the hell is actually happening.
Good luck and God speed!
**Narg,,, my comment wasn’t really direct at you, but intended for newly awake newbies that might be reading this thread.
Thanks, ModernMan1. Yes, I'm an old, long-awake pede, and my "hopium" comment was just referencing that there's necessarily room for interpretation of much that Q posted; "disinformation is necessary" and so on, combined with the need to adjust to the enemy's moves and other unpredictable events. But your comment is a good one; this IS a very special board with an intelligent, truth-seeking, and generally sane and civil community of interesting minds.
I agree with you wholeheartedly in what you say. The truth is out there and we can't ignore it. But I can see some people, even some of us, not totally believing. As nothing (I will use the term BIG) big has really happened, like Hillary's arrest, Biden arrested, Soros, Klaus all brought in, and many, many more. Until some or all of this happens a lot of people won't believe. Others will say, the patriots/Conservatives have gone absolutely nuts, if and when it does happen.
That is what WE SEE, probably different from what's going on behind the scenes.
Your statement sounds very reasonable. I was just thinking the normal timeline from the date of the Q post, thanks.
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I personally believe they have already been arrested and we are either watching actors or very controlled individuals who do exactly what they’re told.
I think it’s become very obvious that white hats are going to extremes to keep from tearing this country apart with sudden shocking news. I’m thinking by the time we get to the arrest part almost everyone will be cheering it on.
Trump "I am a wartime President", the country is under attack by a foreign entity and has been infiltrated by such people as well as their allegiance to that foreign country being catered for at every turn by people already in positions of influence. Treason. Public safety at risk, riots, changes laws entirely, why its being done by constitution as well as why they asked him to step down a couple of weeks before the end of his public term. It goes with these posts
https://qalerts.app/?n=2961
"Is there a benefit to allowing your enemy to openly fire?"
It also goes with this one
https://qalerts.app/?n=3850
"How do you 'awaken' the 'induced coma' public [FAKE NEWS control] from their long sleep? Sometimes allowing your enemies to [openly] attack……. Logical thinking."
March 18, 2020 Trump declared himself a wartime president.
So he is still?
Read Laws and Orders, review emergency orders, read Executive Orders, FEMA Continuity of Govt, UCMJ, Military Justice Act and US CODES
and Law of War
I haven't read it all with a fine toothed comb yet but isn't Congress suppose to chime in before before 6 months after that? If Congress shirked it's responsibility I would assume he is a wartime president until the war is over.
Since we are given the appearance that the Resident is President & all that comes with that, I would have to assume it is a distraction the military set up as a tactic of war.
This is what I think, too, fren.
And who backed Trump up at the very beginning during his inauguration?
Top notch post again!
The underlying details of the inauguration all point to Trump being CIC and biden/hairass being illegitimate. Knowing doesn't fix the problem. We are still a goat tied to a stake as bait. Yes the goat needs to see that the lion intends to eat them right before the hunter pulls the trigger. Unfortunately some folks who did wake up, have become exhausted and are already coping with Stockholm syndrome.
What an analogy! 🐸
The hunters will be hunted
Ok. Honestly I feel better knowing I am bait than being told we are winning as a demon nibbles on my flesh.
Great post. Just my two cents. I have always believed that the conditions presented themselves in 2017 when criminals coordinated attacks sharing the sitting President no doubt with foreign control (invasion)
I believe this is what enabled trump to enact and setup the basis for the COG/Devolution we are in and the military is already in control of this op.
But your point might be valid in terms of optics. Perhaps to unveil this to public a definitive event is required. Is it Title 42? Personally I’m thinking that it’s too early for the reveal. But we will see.
I think it may have been in 2016 with the Wiener laptop. Watching Hillary get thrown into the van these years later - I think she was arrested. No one acted like she was in medical distress. Her hands never came out from behind her back. Handcuffed? Instead the people were a security perimeter. And who filmed that video?
The military had the needed proof at that point to go to Continuity of Government. And per their oaths they had to. Was James Comey a good guy? Or forced by the white hats to announce reopening of e-mail investigation days before election?
I am sure Hillary was taken somewhere in 2016, but I dont think she was arrested until a year later, after the first Q drop, her Saudi Puppetmasters were taken out. Looking at photos a while ago it seemed like in late 2017 or early 2018.
And I think the US has been in COG even from Trump first term or perhaps even before that ...
Some think Trump turned power over to military during his inauguration. The military walked up behind Trump, stayed behind him for 17 seconds (admittedly I never went back to verify the time, but I was told it was 17 seconds) and then turned their back to him and walked away.
Just as he said "Transferring power back to the people". I agree with this assessment. Quite plausible thats when it started.
I agree with you about COG
Why do people think Hillary was arrested
This post right here, and the thoughtful responses, is the reason I check in daily with GAW. High energy post(s) here and I just want ALL of you to know that this subject and the discussion here is great. Thanks all.
Yay! I get to give the 17th updoot!
You said, "I have heard the military tribunals will take place in June and July." Can you share where you got that information and what was said about it please?
Derek Johnson. @rattletrap1776 on Twitter. He says multiple reporters are getting ready to cover trials there this summer. He is going for an amateur radio station or something along those lines - but not a professional radio station. His recent interviews linked here give more details. (he has a good one on X22 Report.) The reporters going have a calendar of the trials, but no names filled in, according to him.
The thing I like about Derek is that you can look up everything he says yourself.
Which is great because listening to him speak is next to impossible - he can talk nonstop for half an hour without finishing a sentence
you are right! He's an acquired taste. He's getting better and more concise these days.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/us/politics/pentagon-guantanamo-secret-courtroom.html
No. The Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of the military from regular civil law enforcement. Habeas Corpus is a recourse in law through which a person can report an unlawful detention or imprisonment to a court and request that the court order the custodian of the person, usually a prison official, to bring the prisoner to court, to determine whether the detention is lawful.
Yes, you are correct. I removed that sentence,
I read the first paragraph in the link I provided and interpreted it to say the Writ prevented the government (or its military being that Lincoln was the CIC) from growing out of control and becoming a engine to confine and jail persons, thus limiting military intervention on American soil.
"Alexander Hamilton, writing in Federalist 84, approvingly quotes Blackstone that habeas corpus is the “ bulwark of the British constitution,” in that it prevents the “dangerous engine of arbitrary government” that comes from “confinement of the person, by secretly hurrying him to jail, where his sufferings are unknown or forgotten.”
However, I mentioned later in the post if Trump signed the Insurrection Act:
The Insurrection Act
"If the president truly wants to deploy U.S. soldiers to “dominate the streets” in cities around the country as he threatened in his June 1 remarks, he will need to go beyond the authorities discussed above and invoke perhaps the most significant exception to posse comitatus restrictions on the books: the Insurrection Act."
Originally enacted in 1807 and modeled on similar statutes dating back to the beginning of the republic, the Insurrection Act—which is now codified as amended at 10 U.S.C. Ch. 13—operationalizes the authority “[t]o provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions” provided to Congress by the Constitution’s Militia Clauses. Specifically, it authorizes the president to deploy both active-duty military and federalized National Guard members to address situations of civil unrest in the country, provided that certain conditions are met."
https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-trump-use-insurrection-act-deploy-troops-american-streets
The article says there are conditions that must be met:
"The president cannot invoke the Insurrection Act secretly or ambiguously. Before doing so, he is required to make a public proclamation directing “the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time,”
President Trump tells rioters at Capitol to 'go home'
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/06/donald-trump-go-home-message-rioters-jake-tapper-vpx.cnn
In essence, all of the conditions for suspending the Writ of Habeas Corpus, posse comitatus and invoking the Insurrection Act have been met.
TY fren. You wrote: "The president cannot invoke the Insurrection Act secretly or ambiguously. Before doing so, he is required to make a public proclamation directing “the insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably to their abodes within a limited time,” and TY for the CNN clip where he tells people to retire peacefully in their homes, as in the last part of that
but according to the first part: "The president cannot invoke the Insurrection Act secretly or ambiguously...." Where does he do this? If it's not secretly then we should be able to see that he did no in a nonambiguous way. I realize the "media" is in cahoots with the enemy and may not have broadcast it but is there some presidential record after Jan 6th where he enacted it?
I look at this and assume the only prerequisite required from Trump before signing the Insurrection Act is that he tell the rioters/insurgents to return to their homes. I remember when this happened it was immediately understood what just took place. It was understood where Trump was going next by making this statement.
When Trump performed the only requirement, it should be expected what his next move will be. If the MSM refused to question Trump and/or inform the people what may have just happened, thats is on them. Trump doesn't have to inform his enemies what his next move is.
That's also when he was banned from social media. He made that statement, posted on twatter, and was quickly banned from there, fakebook, YouTube, Instagram, etc.
I read the whole thing. Great points ! The Q drops were not really for Trump's first term, they are for the resident's term
Many answers can also be found here (click blue “Answers” button in the corner):
https://qanon.pub/#11
Earlier there was also a qmap tool with the best comments and references but the employer found out and threatened the person to shut down the site. It was just a static javascript app so I hope people have a copy of the content (site grab) so hopefully it can emerge at some point too.
Note here that the argument is geared towards the courts.
Congress may be in a stalemate, before a secession is executed. It seems the Southern secession was done correctly. So Lincoln could very well have worked with the remaining congress to get to that point.
An additional issue is that a grosso modo suspension is not the most effective, though the most easy one. The nucleus is: the public Safety may require it.
This is a clause that is quite unclear. There is the regional aspect, the time aspect. Usually once a power is taken, it is rarely given back.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S9-C2-1/ALDE_00001087/
Take careful note:
Heard from whom?
I believe it was reported in the New York Times. edit: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/29/us/politics/pentagon-guantanamo-secret-courtroom.html
Thanks very much for this.
But this raises more questions: WHO are the courtrooms for?
Read Laws and Orders, review emergency orders, read Executive Orders, FEMA Continuity of Govt, UCMJ, Military Justice Act and US CODES.
So nothing military can do about the 700,000 invaders?
And apparently the military can't do anything about the military giving aid to Ukraine.
How do we know where that money is going? Or if money is actually being moved anywhere? I take everything with a grain of salt now.
It's not just money. You know that, right? It's also a shit ton of equipment. Including things like tanks, that you can see there. And some of our service people are going over there to help train them.
If Trump is in charge of the military right now, then why are we giving Ukraine so much military support right now?
How much is actually happening there with military support?
I tend to NOT believe much of it because of disinformation. How much of it is real and how much of it is put out there for us to believe it is real?
So hard to know what to believe and not to believe right now.
Read Laws and Orders, review emergency orders, read Executive Orders, FEMA Continuity of Govt, UCMJ, Military Justice Act and US CODES.
Why can't those things occur in a SCIF? Why do that overseas?
Which things, fren? I am not sure what you're asking.
Why read laws and orders, emergency orders at Guantanamo Bay?
The laws and orders, etc, will tell you what's going on, and all of that can be read in your home on the internet. No SCIF or Gitmo required.
So what exactly is Trump doing with the military then? Is this Schrodingers military? Where he both does and does not have control of the military at the same time?
During war, much, if not most of the operations are not revealed for obvious reasons. At this point, your guess is probably as good as others'. You've probably also heard of 5D chess that's going on......In addition, tactics change depending on the enemy's moves.
Hmmm. 🤨
I like your term Schrodingers military fren! lol That term may actually be more correct that people realize. We could have the legit military and then the CIA military. That's my guess. I know someone who I suspect is CIA. He alludes to some military connection & hangs out at the VFW but he's till active somehow. (He's in his 50's never says what sort of rank he has or what branch of the military he works for but yet somehow gets sent overseas now & then.)
We should probably do a poll right here & see if anyone knows anyone who was sent to Ukraine & is in the legit military -(can identify their rank & which branch they work for)
Could also be one of those bullshit artists. Say they're this and that but could be lying about everything.
Oh I'm sure a lot of what he says is BS but I'm only telling you a small part of it all. It also has to do with where I have seen him, who I've seen him with, how he responds to them & seen him write or say over time.
The State Department is providing the military support.
So the State Department is in control of the military? Instead of Trump.
Excellent!
Both Lincoln and his attorney general, Edward Bates, declared that the judiciary was incapable of dealing adequately with organized rebellion. Bates, in his more detailed opinion, pointedly reminded the Court that the executive was not subordinate to the judiciary, but one of three coordinate branches of government. The President took an oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution,” Bates asserted, and the courts were too weak to accomplish that task.
I hope this is what is happening. I really don't focus on this stuff as it leads to expectations of events that never seem to happen as we think or hope. I pray these things are real but in truth we do not know.
This is a complicated game with misinformation on all sides. Truth is hard to even know at this point. Perhaps this is just my minds way of trying to remain sane in a extremely weird world...
I hear you SpiderMike. It's like the ol'2 more weeks....
Has anyone witnessed a train derailment first hand?
Biden’s inauguration was a funeral. Canons shot over a cemetery.
No. The Posse Comitatus Act forbids the use of the military from regular civil law enforcement. Habeas Corpus is a recourse in law through which a person can report an unlawful detention or imprisonment to a court and request that the court order the custodian of the person, usually a prison official, to bring the prisoner to court, to determine whether the detention is lawful.
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The thing about any branch suspending Habeas Corpus reminds me of post #34, specifically when it says "On POTUS’ order, a state of temporary military control will be actioned and special ops carried out": u/#q34 To me this does look like Trump can/will do this once the conditions are met.
Trump would have suspended the Writ before. Remember after the 2020 Presidential election when AF1 flew to a military base and stayed overnight?
I'm kinda shocked that #11 reads "Commander and Chief" instead of the correct term "Commander in Chief," from which we get the abbreviation "CinC."
In fact, the grammar in both #11 and #12 is appallingly bad. What gives?
Interesting nuance I have over looked every other time! Thank you for pointing that out. We know that all errors are intended as some sort of double meaning. I can only speculate.
I've looked at that a hundred times. The best I can come up with is that somehow, using the word and, means Commander. And Chief. You see? Two different roles. But I have nothing to substantiate that.
Well let’s gooo! ASAP to DJT. We are ready and stand with him. WWG1WGA
Why is it a "privilege?"
No they aren't.
Lol. Imagine believing Biden is giving anyone orders. I believe that about as much as I believe you have friends of high level/rank in the military. Even if this were true, you would have to assume these said military members wouldn't be telling some peon what is actually going on.
IDK what he said but my guess (given that the mods already got rid of him) is that he has black hat connections. Black hats love to give out false narratives while pretending that it's a secret etc etc
That user said that he has high ranking military friends and they are taking their orders from Biden.
I would have asked him what branch of the 'military' My bet would be that they are CIA special ops
I'm thinking it's his neighbor's cousin's son who just got promoted to Staff Sargeant.
When I hear "High ranking military friends I think of Generals & Colonels not Staff Sargeants. They could be on orders to keep this disinformation going.
Most civilians don't realize that, though. Who knows, anything is possible. These are strange times we are in. Tomorrow should be interesting!